"American Idol:" Recount! Glambert Shoulda Won

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For breakfast, an order of crow.

But first this -- I demand a recount. Can the Supreme Court get involved in this? Should that lawyer who worked for Al Gore back in 2000 get a call? On second thought, maybe not him.

A pox on the "American Idol" electorate. To repeat myself until blue, purple, green in the face: Does anyone anywhere really truly believe the best singer won tonight? In all my years of "Idolatry," this was the single grossest miscarriage of justice I've ever witnessed here. So bad that it calls into question the whole damn enterprise which is -- and I quote -- TO FIND THE BEST DAMN POP SINGER ON THE PLANET. Not the cutest, or nicest, or sweetest, or most pleasant, or most agreeable, or gosh-darned wonderful.

To find the best damn singer. Period. This year, miracle of miracles, silly old "Idol" did exactly that. Lambert's one of the best this show has ever produced, and instead of winning for all the right reasons, he lost for all the wrong ones -- too ambiguous, too glam, too left or right coast, too not-cute-enough.

How else could this happen? Simple theory: Fans of Danny Gokey sided with Kris Allen.

But enough of my rant. Congrats to Kris. Great kid. Fine talent. Good for him. On the jump, the newspaper wrap, plus some other quickie observations about the night, and finale -- which I thought was actually very good all in all, with the exception of the last three seconds. (And thanks for reading all this "Idol" stuff on "Zone" this season. I hope and pray no one put $ down on my prediction for the finale; refunds not available.)

Now, let's see what's on the menu for breakfast...


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Ya want "upset?" Then did last night work for you?
In easily the biggest, wackiest, wildest, and -- just to add a little extra topping here -- most unexpected upset in "American Idol" history, Kris Allen was crowned champ of the eighth season.
Yes, a shocker.
Even Simon looked like he was about ready to faint. Kris, too.
“It feels good, man,” he said, or blurted. “But Adam deserves this. This is crazy.”
Yeah, crazy.
Since Hollywood, Adam Lambert -- who wailed, strutted, and was sartorial writ large, with eyeliner, and body-length coats -- was the favorite. But “favorite” for whom? Lambert was also “glam,” while his sexuality was also -- to use the politically correct term -- ambiguous, which led to some in the press and blogosphere to wonder whether Allen would draw bigger crowds of the female 'tweens and teens considered crucial to victory.
By contrast, Allen – native of Arkansas and a student at the University of Central Arkansas -- was and is a sweet-faced crooner with highly competent chops and an ability to connect with enough fans to push him past a rival who's been front-runner almost since the final twelve rounds began. Yet week after week, Allen kept pushing past someone, anyone, who was considered more likely to go forward. Clearly, someone out there liked him a lot. His best performances? There were many, like "To Make You Feel My Love" in Grand Ole Opry week, or "The Way You Look Tonight" on the Ratpack edition, or maybe his own personal signature, the Bill Withers standard, "Ain't No Sunshine."
And some other highlights from last night . . .

* Bleeped at "American Idol" finale? The Black Eyed Peas were. While singing "Boom Boom Pow," the sound suddenly died,the picture disappeared, and...a few words apparently deemed not suitable for 35 million (or so) viewers or the FCC magically disappeared. Meanwhile, Fergie ("Big Girls Don't Cry"), and other stars -- like Keith Urban, singing with Allen -- got by the censors just fine.

* "The Golden Idol Awards" are "Idol" finale's little backward glance at those contestants so bad they were good. Like: Norman Gentle (AKA by his real name, Nick
Mitchell). Or: Bikini Girl, AKA by HER real name, Katrina Darrell. They won last night, and BG nemesis, Kara DioGuardi, sang with her in an unexpected moment of amity. Kara has chops. Bikini has not.

* Night of duets: A good touch for for the last night, and certainly the most memorable one - big stars singing with big "Idols," like Cyndi Lauper, and Allison Iraheta ... Danny Gokey/Lionel Ritchie ...

* David Cook, singing "Permanent." Nice opening, and a reminder that last year's winner was richly deserving. Of Kris Allen and Adam Lambert, he noted: "I don't know that America can get this wrong." Last year's winner's a pretty good diplomat as well.

-Photos of Kris Allen and Adam Lambert backstage and on-stage, and celebrities who performed and were in the audience

-Vote in our poll of why Kris Allen beat Adam Lambert (Please just vote once, the idea is to see what people think, not how many times you can click)

1) -Click here for photos of all of Adam Lambert's "American Idol" outfits this season

-Click here for photos of all of Kris Allen's "American Idol" outfits this season

2) Photos of Adam, Kris and Danny with their hometown fans | "American Idol" trading cards

3) Inside the after-party for the 13 "American Idol" finalists

Comments (98)

Can't believe that Kris Allen won. Was America not ready for Adam Lambert and his creative rockstar attitude? Kris Allen pulled in the American public at a weak moment when they needed a smiling, charming optimist.

Yes, the better singer did win.
Adam is an eyeliner, nailpolish wearing screamer.

Recount? Get a life and get over it. Just respect America's decision.

Kris is the better artist of the two.

Recount? Get a life and get over it. Just respect America's decision.

Kris is the better artist of the two.

Wow, another fine piece article from Newsday. Great job Verne Gay. America is not ready to have a gay Idol so stop pushing your own agenda.

Kris was not the better artist of the two - c'mon.
It wasn't America's decision, it was a bunch of tweens who hit
redial like 100 million times. Adam is phenomeonal. the next Michael Jackson or Freddy Mercury.
Kris is a Jack Johnson want to be.

At least Adam's first single won't be that lame ass "Boundaries" song. Seriously.

This is so wrong if we are going on pure talent. Adam should have won. Even Kris thought so... anyone notice his expression at the end of the show. i don't think he even wanted to win. He's a nice kid, but come on, Adam blows him away vocally, and he even admits it.

Gross. It's extremist Christians who think they can hijack a singing competition to prove their point. They should stay in their churches and leave us normal, material, pop-loving Americans alone. They act like they're above everyone else and then pull this crap. If I wanted extremist religious fanatics to rule my life I'd live in Saudi Arabia.

Wow - yet another piece of biased trash from newsday. It's people like you who constantly pimped Adam out that made America vote for Kris. Get over it. You got yourself to blame.

The WRONG person won. Adam was better by miles, and miles..... and more miles. Thanks to a bunch of tweens the vote ended up going to Kris. Let's watch and see who sells more records. Come on now! Cowell even looked irritated at the end. who can blame him.

Couldn't take much more of Adam's screaming. If it were anyone else - we would have heard Simon tell him "it was screaming". None of the judges ever said that about Adam's singing. Kris has his own style. He's a simple, modest guy with a beautiful voice - I'm glad for him.

I was originally an Adam fan because of the creativity, but after a while felt like it was a show week after week. Kris' singing was more sincere and heartfelt. Anyone agree?

Are u serious?? Adam is the better singer by a landslide! He has an awesome voice! Actually, this is the best thing for him .. Not to win.. There will be all kinds of cool bands wanting him and this way he's free to do what he wants and not be tied down to the crappy american idol contract.. Kris is good, but come on, be honest Adam blows him away!

Look. Whoever's fan people are they need to get over it. By the look on Ryan Seacrest's face and the fact that he didn't even announce that it was a close vote, Kris Allen won with a pretty good margin. So, just GET OVER IT!!!! I love Adam and he will be a Fine musician and artist and so will Kris. Adam was very happy for Kris, and if you're his fan you should be happy too. This ISN"T Life and death. So everybody, for the third time, GET OVER IT!!!!

Um, if we are going on kindness, then sure either could have easily won, but this is a singing competition the last I checked. I think this was a big oops. I agree with the person who said at least Adam doesnt have to have his first single be that stupid song that the "new judge" wrote. It sucked anyways. ( :

I just watched American Idol in my country, guess what? America just
proved that Evangelistic Christians/middle America rather let a
great talent loose because of his sexual orientation! Sorry, the world
is flabbergasted with America’s decision, again!

I've LOVED Adam all season. I'm not angry with Kris. He even admitted he didn't deserve to win at the end of the show because hes honest and humble. It's all good though. For those who are ticked by the result, don't be, Adam's going to do more than ok for himself. I will be buying his album for sure. Nothing against Kris, but I don't think id ever buy his. Not a good enough singer. Sorry.

A recount and federal investigation is needed. Someone needs to be charged with a felony. Someone needs to be held accountable for the great catastrophe that just hit. What a let down that Adam Lambert was fullly exploited by American Idol for ratings and then robbed of the winning title. He is by far the best champion of this show, he's got the whole package and has been consistently superstar quality the whole time. Adam's the real winner. I demand an investigation into the secretive voting process of this rigged show. I feel like rioting and protesting. Adam should have WON. American Idol pumped up the show with Adam and then robbed him and the millions who voted for him. This thing is so RIGGED.

So we get another Taylor Hicks year, A forgettable talent who will likely fade into the background just as soon as Idol and the tour are over. And then the could have been who will likely have his own group and an album on the billboard top 40 this time next year.

Dear Nimby,

You say that "yes, the better singer did win." Okay, fine.

But why do you include the fact that Adam wears eyeliner and nail polish? Does eyeliner or nail polish connect to singing talent in any way? I should think not. So why didn't just say that you believe, "Adam is screamer."

Here, you're argument actually proved the side your trying to speak against, showing that perhaps voters looked at the image rather than singing talent alone.

Thanks.

Yea, I think it is curious how people find the need to rip at Adam with personal digs. I'm an Adam fan but im not personally going to attack Kris. Based on singing, Adam is the winner, based on popularity guess he loses, but whatever, it's a big upset but in another couple months it wont matter because Adam will be making hit records and ill be buying them. Go Adam!

Bravo Kris Allen! He fully deserved the crown. Adam was good but not on par to hit the title.

This show is a joke. Once again the wrong person won, same as last year. Let's wait & see who's first cd sells more. All the born-again crowd that voted Kris in simply so a homosexual wouldn't win aren't really fans who will buy his music. These are the same idiots that voted for George Bush twice. And the judges guaranteed Adam wouldn't win by flagrantly overpraising every performance and so clearly wanting him to win. Simon did the same thing to Archie last year by claiming him a "knockout". Made everyone vote for Cook, who was so clearly an inferior singer. Just like this year. The judges should learn to shut the f*** up about predicting winners since it clearly never works.

I am so glad that Kris won. I was always for Danny but when he left Kris was the only way to go. Adam is talented but he is to theatrical for my taste. And I have to say, everyone that I know that was voting for Danny moved their votes to Kris.

why can't people accept that not all people are adam lambert fans? instead of over-analyzing, and ranting about the results, support your artist on their post-idol careers.

i love them both, and i'd definitely buy their albums. i like kris allen, like i sometimes like lemon with my cup of tea. and i also like adam like i sometimes like a dash peppermint in my cup of tea. it's all about preference guys.

if they released the vote numbers and shows that kris won by a considerable margin, would you accept it? if they released it and shows that kris won by a small margin, would you accept it?

probably not. that's why i think, recounting or releasing vote numbers is useless. because fans of the one who lost will never accept the results, even if it's recounted a thousand times.

get over it and go on with your life.

go kris and adam!

i agree 100% with your first paragraph. adam was clearly the better singer
of the two and i say, that even though i liked Kris also. adam lost
because the show is most popular in the bible belt and they were
not going to vote for a gay guy. that is all there is to it. we can put
a black guy man in the white house but we are still not ready for
a gay perfomer to take a national prize.

First off, Congratulations Kris. The fact is, this show is not simply a singing contest. It is made a popularity contest with the introduction to contestants family's and life stories'. Emotional ties are made to the contestants by the audience. This is simply the nature of the show. Sure, pure vocal talent would have had Adam winning the contest, but this is not the only thing taking into account as voters cast their votes. No matter how good either contestant performs on any given night will not dictate how many votes that contestant receives. The number will be based on preconceived notions about the overall personality, likability and physical attributes of the contestant. This is just how the show is. Its how they make money, like it or not.

Go stick twenty contestants behind a curtain, singing songs each night and have America vote solely on their voices to have your pure singing contest. But see how many people would actually watch the show.

AMERICAN IDOL SEASON 8 IS OVER!!
But the saga of Simon and Paula lives on…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Opl3TCK0o

Get real folks!!! Kris was GREAT! I loved Adam Lambert too, but I know many people who told me their interest in him peaked very early and waned towards the end. I don't think the Simon and Paula emphatic cheerleading for Adam's in-the-bag victory helped him either...

I used to like Adam. Since a few weeks before the finals, Kris really stepped up. Adam started to sound the same each week. When I listened to Kris and Adam's songs without the video, Kris sounded a lot better than Adam. There's a difference between hitting the notes and a good-sounding voice. And Kris' voice sounds really good.

Anyone who judges other comments by saying, JUST GET OVER IT - is being arrogant. We are not losing our minds here - we are posting opinions. If you don't want to read them - that's ok. But don't attack people for posting their opinions on a comment board that is purposely for that!!! Also, about the whole tweens thing - I have a teen girl and a tween girl and they are both Adam fanatics. Let's stop the tween bashing shall we - all my kids friends are Adam fans as well. About the screaming, Adam does not scream. He has a vocal range that the rest of the bunch cannot even hope to touch and he showcased it. Dumbing it down is not his style and anyone stupid enough to vote for Kris simply because he was not screaming already has a boring dumb life full of white bread and creamy jiff peanut butter with no-nuts. I'd rather BBQ Oysters, sip champagne and listen to Adam Lambert

First time I've watched AI since season 2 and I will never watch again. Adam was the true winner he's the only reason I watched Idol this season. I wish him the best in his career and I'm sure he'll go far.

Kris won because of 38 million Arkansas votes. America did not vote for Kris, Arkansas did. I suggest we send him back where he belongs. I am a political activist and an attorney. I hate injustice. I am irate that this contest was robbed from the man who deserved to win it. How could 38 million votes be generated by a state with a small population? I believe that it had to be electronic. Something was hacked. The poetic justice is that for all time Kris will leave a bad taste in the everyone's mouth. The people that robed Adam have destroyed Kris. At this moment I hate Kris. Kris will never be successful because of the backlash of how he stole this vote.

I will never watch AI again after what they did to Adam. I will not watch Fox or go to Disney World. I have never been so mad about anything in my life. This is wrong! the vote was rigged!

CONGRATULATIONS, AMERICA!
Just shows the tweens of America are no better than their elders who voted BUSH twice. While that caused America to be the laughing stock of the world, this shows its ignorance.
The WINNERS are votes of HATE, votes to spite, votes to bring down the deserving, votes against talent, votes of ignorance, votes of homophobia, votes of prejudice, bias and bigotry.
Add votes of alienation due to AI judges, Katy Perry, EW Cover and bigoted fans.
Though the judges' praise of ADAM is deserving, it backlashed.
They should have taken into consideration the feelings of other fans.
HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE FANS SCORNED!
This is a number competition. It doesn't necessarily mean Kris has more fans. Fans of other contestants simply voted against ADAM. What's overwhelming are votes of HATE.
Congrats Tweens! Congrats Danny's fans! Congrats Vote For The WORST - you won.
This is NOT a singing competition, NOT of talent, NOT of the best, NOT of popularity why ADAM is robbed BIG TIME of being acknowledge for his genius.
No matter, he is on his way to SUPERSTARDOM. The world is waiting for him.
If only the international fans could vote, this travesty will not happen.
This AI 8 Season is hate and bigotry votes against ADAM.
ADAM is too big for AI. He is The WORLD'S IDOL.
GO ADAM!!!

Mariyas, that was ridiculous bunch of rabble you wrote. The fact is there are no facts besides Chris won fair and square. Everything else is an opinion. I liked Chris better because I thought he was less annoying. I also thought Adam was very talented but he made everything into a diva like performance which to me is not rock at all. Gay or not it just didn't matter he was good bud more people liked Chris. So people just need to get past making everything a sexual preference issue because it doesn't become one until you start babbling about it.

Mariyas, that was ridiculous bunch of rabble you wrote. The fact is there are no facts besides Chris won fair and square. Everything else is an opinion. I liked Chris better because I thought he was less annoying. I also thought Adam was very talented but he made everything into a diva like performance which to me is not rock at all. Gay or not it just didn't matter he was good, but more people liked Chris. So people just need to get past making everything a sexual preference issue because it doesn't become one until you start babbling about it.

Can we demand a recount. Kris himself knows that Adam deserved to win.
Kris is an ok singer, we will forget about him in about 3 years, hell we already forgot
about David Cook. (That was a joke too). It just goes to show that Americans don't know talent

Even though Adam did not win American Idol, we will see him 50 years from now. Where will Kris be? Kris who!!!!
Adam will be iconic just like Mick Jagger and Steve Tyler.

I am going on strike has of now I will never, I REPEAT NEVER watch American Idol again. I'm sure Simon
feels that same way. I beat you Simon does not resign his contract and then American Idol
will be Crap. (We can already see that coming after these last two years of Idol.


Adam has a once in a generation voice, in my mind another Josh Grobin or Freddie Mercury. How he uses it remains to be seen. All i know is that each week I would download his songs or replay his performance on u tube. Kris is a sound that is just ordinary in my mind sounds like dozens of others. The vote clearly was cultural. I would never buy or see a Kris whats his name song or concert I may buy an ADAM CD or see a show if he sings more of what I like about his voice, the quiter ballads not the screaming rocker.

I AM NEVER WATCHING AI AGAIN!
SOMETHING IS WRONG!
I VOTED FOR HOURS< MY SON VOTED FOR HOURS<MY
OTHER SON, MY DAUGHTER, MY MOTHER AND MY SISTER;
VOTED FOR ADAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a 60-year old female and all I have to say is that Adam has more talent in his little finger than Kris has in his whole body. Yes, Kris is a decent singer - but he is pablum... all his songs sounded the same. This was the first year I ever got into American Idol - and I'm afraid it's my last...

Maybe AI should take two pages from DancingWithTheStars: let the judges have more input than just their comments and the one override they instituted this year - and second, only allow a certain number of votes per phone.

America - don't settle for "Ok" - demand the best! And Adam was the BEST! Give him any song, any genre, and he nailed it in spades...

Adam WILL be a megastar and I will buy any album he puts out.

Good News is that now its over Adam can finally "come out".

I found Chris's singing boring. He was often off-key (pitchy), and rarely sang any low notes. My husband described it as "yodeling." It is very weird that Chris was in the final.

Adam was exciting every week.

Why do people get so upset over this? Who cares who won? Adam Lambert's career does not hinge on whether or not he wins American Idol. If it does, then he probably wouldn't have a very bright future anyway.

So what that people like Kris Allen. Is that so wrong? He's a good singer. Adam Lambert, although a great singer, will attract a certain type of audience. That audience probably doesn't sit around watching American Idol or dialing in to vote for him.

Adam Lambert was a true gentleman last night. He realizes that this isn't the end for him. I wish all the complainers out there would realize that and stop bashing Kris Allen. Get over it. It's a TV show.

The only difference between Adam and the female contestants, is a dress.

The only people that should be under investigation and charged with anything are the ones who created this ridiculous show. Forget a recount, just shut the show down. (It's about time anyway).
For those of you haven't seen the movie Idiocracy, you should definitely rent it this weekend: if American Idol (amongst all the other stupifying series) stays on television, that's what our future is going to look like.
It's a TV show, and a horrible one at that. Get over it.

Adam is the best talent to ever grace the "Idol" stage. Being a musician all of my life I believe that Adam is capable of performing the whole spectrum of music from Rock to Jazz to Broadway or whatever. Paula was right in stating that he will become an international "icon".

zorro

what a bigoted comment, The difference between him and you is that he is kind, intelligent and well spoke. Go jump into the back of your hill bily frinds pick up and go listen to your crappy mediocre Idol

Look - as far as Christians causing Chris to win over Adam is ridiculous. I'm a Christian, send my son to a Christian private school. I've been a fan of Adam's since the beginning and voted for him and will buy his records (depending on the content). So get over the religious part of this you are wrong.

I'm gay. I voted for Kris. Homophobia wasn't a factor. Kris sings music I would listen to and he does it beautifully. Adam is a drag show minus the drag. His voice may certainly be better than Kris's, but his style of singing is just a bit over the top. I won't be buying his cd.

Recount, Adam should have never made it past round 2 cause Lil Rounds
should have been out in round one... The entire thing is crap, the
judges couldn't find talent if they were given directions... Idol is a
complete waste of time!!!

The right person won, Kris is talented in all areas. He can sing, play the guitar and piano. Adam's whole personna was a turn off, with the dyed hair and painted nails.

America was right on!

Adam just screams. That song for the winner is a case in point. Close your eyes and imagine listening to this song being played on the radio. Adam was played yesterday and it gave me a headache. Kris will be a star and Adam will be a metal singer. That's all he can do. And he screamed more each week he got gushed upon. He thinks he's better than he is.

OK....Adam...suck it up...You'll do just fine..Kris appeals to the masses and you don't so too bad. I'm sure that if you hadn't put black shoe polish over your head and hands and eyebrows, people would have voted for you.

America most definitely got this one wrong. Very sad that our country is full of paranoid people who had to see that Adam was the best singer by far, but wouldn't vote for him for the obvious reasons. Very sad indeed.

Adam was the only reason my husband and I watched American Idol this season. I thought the other contestants (except Allison and maybe Danny) were pretty mediocre. Adam has a voice and a presence that I haven't heard or seen in a performer in a long time. He is like a cross between Elvis and Freddy Mercury. Amazing and brilliant. I wish we were in an era that actually celebrated creativity and vision.

Yes, you all do need to get over it! There are bigger things in the world to worry about then who won AI. You have the right to be annoyed or happy because in America we have the right to our opinions and open it up for disucssion. You don't have the right to personally bash someone for their looks or sexual orientation. Which, by the way, was neither confirmed nor denied nor should it ever have come up for discussion 'cause it's nobody's business. There are plenty of gay & straight artists in the world but it's not why we do or don't listen to them, watch their movies, buy their paintings, do business with them, or are friends with them. Take it off the table!!!!!!! Every caller could vote more than one time and you could split your votes up any way you wanted to, that's how they get millions of votes posted. Truth is out of 100 million votes, actual callers could be down to about 1/2-1/3 of the total. And yes, it is true that all the press Adam received may have backfired, or was that the intent? How often have we seen that runners up do better than the actual winners. Either way, stop bashing the contestants, they've been thru a grueling experience and need some time to recuperate. Support your singer by buying their music and move on with your life. Find something more important to focus on in the world-there's plenty that needs fixing out there.

As a pro prop 8 Mormon, (who wants 100% equal civil unions), I LOVED Adam Lambert. My husband and I thought he was awesome and were blown away by his vocals, looks and personality - what an incredible talent and a nice guy. Chris grew on us and I can't say it's a bad thing he won, but we were pulling for Adam! Christians don't hate gays - wish you guys could understand that...

So, lets see..... How many of the actual winners of American Idol made it really big? Not just big for the moment, but really big?
Kelly Clarkston
Carrie Underwood

I think picking two out of seven isn't great. Now, how about other top sellers: Chris Daughtry, Clay Aiken, Jennifer Hudson, who weren't "winners"? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Kris, you're a nice guy, it seems. Congrats on the win. But his show doesn't even come close to picking the "best artist", and sales of their picks reflect it.

Homophobia is still rampant, and that is very sad. But Adam Lambert is a genius and he will have an EPIC career. He also appears to have a great, big beautiful heart.

Never underestimate the power Pseudo-Intellectual-Spoil-Sports.
Vote-for -the-Worst helped this along.

First of all, I am glad Kris Allen won. I have been a long-time broadcaster who has downloaded 5 of Kris' studio versions. They could be on the radio right now.

You say this is about who has the best voice? Since when? Jennifer Hudson finished 7th. Melinda Doolittle finished 3rd. They were outsung? By who?

I will tell you why Kris won. And it has nothing to do with Adam's flamboyance or America being allegedly stupid and dull.

Kris won because this competition's heart-and-soul is about finding a diamond in the rough and making that unknown's dream come true.

From the beginning of this season, Adam appeared to already be a professional, but making things far, far worse, the judges were pronouncing him as the winner weeks before this was appropriate. And they did it week after week.

Praise his performance, but don't insult the voters by telling the press he has this won and pimping the heck out of him on the show.

The producers were even worse. Kris overcame no studio time and, even after a good performance, had to put up with Paula/Simon inanities, rather than the critiques he deserved.

Want more proof about how slanted this show was? The finale had Adam performing 3 songs with Queen. Kris gets a duet with Keith Urban (which he nailed). Backstory? Until the end you never saw Kris even touch his wife. Not even on the homecoming segment. You would never know he was a missionary in 6 countries, or played the viola and ukelele.

Adam has his career, bashing Kris won't change that. Kris embodied to voters what this show should be about. Discovering new talent, and in the process, recapturing some of the humanity this hit machine has been lacking.

Good for Kris.

Gotta agree with most on this board-Adam shoulda won!! That being said
the only reason I watched AI this year was for him-he made the show worth watching!
My daughter and I agreed that after 2 years of America picking the wrong singer we are both through watching.
Last post here forever---Peace out!!!

Point 1 - Everybody thinks that they are the typical person in the US. Guess what? You're not. SO the argument of saying Adam should have won because I like him and all my friends like him doesn't hold water. Simple fact was that he was a bit more polarizing than Chris (that doesn't make him better or worse) It's a common misconception in marketing of any kind, to think that your preferences matter more or are more correct. Let's let America vote on their favorite restaurant. Guess who wins? McDonald's maybe? Anyone think they really make the best food?

Point 2 - Anybody who thinks the music biz is about singing ability is extremely ignorant. Just look at the folks who were guest performing last night! Think Rod Stewart has the purest voice in the biz? I love it but he can't compete with Pavoratti... Kiss, Cyndi Lauper, Queen Latifa, Black Eyed Peas, Keith Urban, Paula Abdul, Randy Travis, Carrie Underwood, the list goes on and on. None of them could hold a candle to any classically trained university level opera singer. But it's the whole package that we love - not just how "good and pure" the voice is.

I do think it was a bit of an upset on the surface. I would have been happy with either actually. Not surprisingly, Adam was billed as a big favorite, but everyone loves an underdog. Even Simon (who although everyone loves to hate, is right far more often than the others - because he's IN the business of talent discovery) warned about people assuming Adam was going to win. But there is a huge moderate fan base out there that like's things like country music, that are much more likely to buy a Kris album than Adam. Simple fact is Adam as talented as he was was more in his element with Kiss, and Kris was more with Keith Urban (that's why they paired them up). Guess who's selling more new albums these days? I love glam rock from the 80s, but it's not exactly the IN genre. Why do you think there's so many R&B or Country artists who do well on the show?

It's called art. You can't judge art. You can only state your opinion. If you like it and a lot of other people like it, it becomes popular. You can critique the components in a technical way, but in the end you can't change feelings.

Ooops...should have proofread better...I meant to say Adam performed 3 songs with Kiss, not Queen. And I also was referring to Kris not getting any TV time during the audition process, not "studio time."

Daivd Cook was right when he said American can't get it right. The show is called American Idol. Idols have never been defined by their talent, but by their popularity. And so this show must be search for the most popular, not the most talented. Even Kris admitted that he wasn't the best singer in the competition, but in the end that didn't matter because for whatever reason, America enjoyed watching Kris more than they enjoyed watching Adam.

Sorry I meant to say... Chris was right when he said America can't get this wrong.

The reason Kris won is because of the exact thing you quoted yourself! The goal of American idol is to find the best POP singer. Adam spent the entire season demonstrating that he is a DAMN good rock singer. I will give you that without a second thought. He's a rock LEGEND in waiting. But I wouldn't buy a POP album from Adam. His strength is in his high notes, not his chest voice. Kris has an excellent mainstream voice--soulful, pitch perfect, and strong in the range that most pop songs are written in. Also, though it often went unnoticed because of Adam's talent in the area, he did a LOT of arranging on those songs. He's a real artist--not some cookie cutter who shows up to sing the music someone else wrote for him. I think they're both amazing, but I do think America made the right choice--for both guys. Adam needed to be free of American Idol's contract to go pursue the right music for him. And Kris will do very well with the type of music that typically succeeds under the Fox Label. I think this was the best possible outcome all around. And I'm not homophobic. :-)

I am boycotting American Idol and all their sponsors. The majority of people here and around the world know Adam deserves the first prize. Adam will have more grammys than any other idol combined .

All you have to do is go listen to all of his studio version of Adam's songs such as Mad World and Feeling Good and all the others, then you will not be able to deny that Adam will be a super star. If you don't agree with me and millions of his fans all over the world then you can not be trusted to appreciate any good music.By the same token you may not think Elvis can sing either and of course you would have the right to your opinion and as we are have the right to think your a blithering idiot.

Kris is irrelevant to this discussion because it could have been anyone else in his place he is like a million other singer and he himself knows it. He certainly is lucky but we will see how long his luck holds out.

Adam was a great singer, when he SANG and didn't SCREAM.

I think "sensible" says it all, so I won't be redundant.

However, the biggest upset in Idol history? Wasn't last night, but was when Taylor Hicks won. Idol wanted a showman, and what has Hick's done since? Not enough to remember him for.

I believe that it's the vote that says who the winner is. I'm sure some people thought Adam, some thought Kris and some thought Danny ect. The point is it's up to the voters. I thought Adam was awesome, but some of my friends hated him 1. Because they don't like the type of music he sings (or his rendition of it) and 2. The way he dressed. It's a matter of opinion. I think the last 4 will have contracts anyway. It was a great ending and I completely enjoyed it.

I believe that it's the vote that says who the winner is. I'm sure some people thought Adam, some thought Kris and some thought Danny ect. The point is it's up to the voters. I thought Adam was awesome, but some of my friends hated him 1. Because they don't like the type of music he sings (or his rendition of it) and 2. The way he dressed. It's a matter of opinion. I think the last 4 will have contracts anyway. It was a great ending and I completely enjoyed it.

Verne,

I was soo glad to see that Kris won. In all of the songs that Adam sung he screamed at some point. People were just getting bored of his same ole story.

I disagree with you also that it should strictly be based on singing. It is based on the full package. Looks, personality and singing ability. Both of them had a great package deal, but 2 very different ones. Adam had a "KISS" package and Kris had a "Jonas Brother's" package. What do most young kids, teenage youths and young adults listen too these days? Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus. Who mostly watches AND votes on American Idol? Young kids, teenage youths and young adults.

Also, since Danny was kicked off last week where do you think his votes were going to go? Adam? No I don't think so. So Kris was not only getting all of his votes he was also getting all of Danny votes too.

Don't get me wrong, I think Adam is a good singer but America made the right choice. Congrats Kris!

Okay, enough with the Christian bashing!
I am a Christian, I love God, and guess what?
I think Adam should have won too!
Why aren't you blaming yourselves for not voting for him more?
You people act as if Christian's have this super natural cell power
Get real!
And to those "holier than thow Christians" Remember, God gave him his talent, God knew he would be Gay, and God loves him!
Reality checks all around!!!

....One more thing.
Congratulations to Kris!!
He is a wonderful singer and I'm looking forward to hearing what they both both in the future.
Not to mention Danny and the red headed rocker girl : )

As ADAM's fan, there's no complaint from me for KRIS winning this. It could not have happened to a nicer humble guy. I'm happy for him. And I'm sure Adam truly doesn't mind Kris winning at all. I bless him and wish him all the success.
My point of contention is that Adam deserves to be the winner for all the right reasons but didn't for all the wrong reasons as the writer pointed out. And those were the votes cast against Adam winning, for whatever reasons. These votes of hate are overwhelming.
I don't mind the controversial 38M votes supposedly from Arkansas because they are votes from the heart. Adam's fans can overcome that with votes from our hearts.
Because I truly believe Adam has more fans as statistics show except for those hate votes, votes cast only to make sure he doesn't win as I've mentioned in my previous post.
After all is said and done, as Adam said, the more important thing is TOMORROW. For all the trashing thrown at him, Adam is a CLASS act as Ryan has announced.
Even America got it wrong, the world is ready to embrace ADAM.
He is The WORLD's Idol. We're loving you, ADAM!

ADAM was cheated of AI title.
How can 1 person in Arkansas vote 45,000 times???
Arkansas which has a population of only 2.8 million generated 38 million votes excluding votes placed through other time zones. Means, it could be more than 60 million votes cast by Arkansas alone???
AT&T supplied the facts which was announced by Fox TV station in Little Rock but they’re now retracting.
Now, it’s CLEAR how ADAM was robbed of winning.
Is that acceptable to AI???

Scott, Adam and KISS did a medley; it wasn't three songs. At first I couldn't figure out what show you were even watching. They each got one performance and the duet with Queen.

The Golden Idol Awards were too funny; mercifully they cut the bit featuring Tatiana as short as possible

The ONLY reason Kris won is because of the 38 million votes cast by the State of Arkansas. This means that ONE state represented almost 40% of the total votes for BOTH contestants. This number is so scewed it's ridiculous when you consider the rest of the country and the population of California.

The week prior there were 88 million votes cast and Kris beat Danny when it was clear that Danny was favored in the finale. How did Kris Allen pull this off and where did the additional 21 million votes come from the following week? Here's how it happened...

First off there were hundreds of pre-paid AT&T cell phones given out by organized Kris Allen supporters with West Coast area codes to vote long after the lines were closed in their time zone. They also were able to text thousands of times in the same time it takes people to dial in and you can ONLY text if you have an AT&T cell phone. It's actually possible to text your vote approximately 40 times within one minute which equals about 2,400 votes within an hour. Multiply that by the extra 2 hours for the cheating phones and you get over 14,000 votes by one individual provided they keep at it non stop, and believe me there are plenty of tweenagers who can do this. Once the voting officially stopped in Arkansas they switched to the phones with the west coast area codes for the remaining 2 hours. AT&T is a sponsor of American Idol. Who do you think made money on all those pre paid phones? I have a AT&T land line and I was able to vote for Adam about 25 times within 4 hours because of constant busy signals. Meanwhile someone in Arkansas had voted over 500 times that amount using power texting. You only need about 1,500 people to accomplish the amount of votes Kris received in addition to those around the rest of the country who voted for him. If you remove the organizers from the equation and the number is the more realistic 45% - 55% margin that was originally predicted in Adam's favor. How do I know all this you ask? I have a friend in Arkansas who was actually voting for Adam and they told me. The information is on the internet as well, you just have to look for it.

Second, on the http://www.krisallenation.com/search/label/Gizmo website people were instructed and coached on how to use a computer program called Gizmo that would extend their voting time from 4 hours to 7 hours. This program is also able to cast up to 25 votes at once and can be used by people OUTSIDE the United States who are normally not allowed to vote. Some people were claiming on various Kris Allen blogs that they voted as many as 18,000 times within 7 hours using the power text and Gizmo method, and many people overseas are claiming they were able to vote using Gizmo as well.

This was a very organized group of people who clearly cheated in order for Kris to win, and I think it's a shame that the most talented performer in American Idol history came in 2nd place. Simon Cowell was right in not standing up when it was announced that Kris won. I wouldn't have stood up either.

I am in shock..... Adam is a much much better singer, preformer and got much more personality than Kris.
How on earth could the American people vote Kris as a winner.
Adam should had won - but I think he will be much bigger than Kris when they start making albums
I can't wait to buy Adams but won't buy Kris's - he sounds like "any other regular singer" but Adam is special and
got this AMAZING voice.
Congratulation to Adam for going all the way to the top and for being such many peoples true winner.
You will be a STAR:

Susanne from Denmark

I agree with a previous comment which stated that AI voting should be open to international viewers. In the UK, before the finale, Adam Lambert was in HEAT magazine and to quote, 'We can't get enough...'! There are so many people over here who love Adam and I'm know there are so many comments from all over Europe and the rest of the world saying how much they love Adam and asking if there is anyway they can vote for him. Don't get me wrong I do like Kris but Adam is so compelling and I would buy an Adam Lambert CD over Kris. We'll never know how fair the voting is but we do know that Adam will be successful. Its just a sad thought that his sexuality could have swayed the votes. Love Adam Forever!!

I agree with a previous comment which stated that AI voting should be open to international viewers. In the UK, before the finale, Adam Lambert was in HEAT magazine and to quote, 'We can't get enough...'! There are so many people over here who love Adam and I'm know there are so many comments from all over Europe and the rest of the world saying how much they love Adam and asking if there is anyway they can vote for him. Don't get me wrong I do like Kris but Adam is so compelling and I would buy an Adam Lambert CD over Kris. We'll never know how fair the voting is but we do know that Adam will be successful. Its just a sad thought that his sexuality could have swayed the votes. Love Adam Forever!!

I seriously doubt AI will ever be able to top this finale ever, KISS and QEEN! WOW! or have someone as talented as Adam grace their show. Its sad that this turned out to be more of a voting contest rather then a singing contest but in the end I think Adam turned out to be the real winner! Or, Did anyone else notice that Ryan never said the percentage or vote count for each person and Adam didn't seem surprised at all hmmm makes me think who the real winner was and perhaps AI producers wanted to help Kris get started with Adams more then gracious approval because thats the kinda of guy he is! Classy! And he sure the hell don't need the AI title to further his career!

Well, disappointed? Yes!! Because the most talented man didn't win. However, it's funny though, if America did choose their Idol, then so did Kris. Kris is the American Idol, but Adam is Kris's Idol and Adam is also the WORLD IDOL. No need for a recount for Adam is now better off free to do whatever he wants without being bounded by the AI contract. People make mistakes, and there is no exception to America. Years ago they have chosen Bush and now you can see clearly they have realized their mistakes.

Wow, amazing how false internet rumors will be believed by anybody. No, Arkansas did not get 38 million votes.

Not even close.

Actually, if you look at the Dial Idol sample, the West Coast had the advantage of getting hardly any busy signals. If you look at the state-by-state tallines, the average is 1 out of 2 calls getting through. On finale night, based on the sample, only 3 out of 9 calls in Arkansas resulted in votes. Meanwhile, in California, the busy signal was a non-factr, 8 out of 9 calls resulted in votes. It is a significantly big enough sample to be more than valid.

Get over it. Adam lost fair and square.

If you are going to present outrageously false stats, show the proof. Or are we supposed to take your word for it?

They just seem to refuse to confront the issue of cheating. ARK fan base of kris was outted for having used speed dail programs and even a program that extended the voteing time for several hours ater the lines in that state were closed. Then they should not allow one contestan(Danny Gokie) to transfer his fan base against a particular contestant (ADAM).
Sad that they continue to ignore the tampering issue.

don't take anyones word for it dip stick.
we are saying asking for the show or some media personality
to take up the issue of a possible tech breech that tainted the vote.
If you have nothing to fear. what would it hurt? Are you from ARK.?

The ONLY reason Kris won is because of the 38 million votes cast by the State of Arkansas. This means that ONE state represented almost 40% of the total votes for BOTH contestants. This number is so scewed it's ridiculous when you consider the rest of the country and the population of California.

The week prior there were 88 million votes cast and Kris beat Danny when it was clear that Danny was favored in the finale. How did Kris Allen pull this off and where did the additional 21 million votes come from the following week? Here's how it happened...

First off there were hundreds of pre-paid AT&T cell phones given out by organized Kris Allen supporters with West Coast area codes to vote long after the lines were closed in their time zone. They also were able to text thousands of times in the same time it takes people to dial in and you can ONLY text if you have an AT&T cell phone. It's actually possible to text your vote approximately 40 times within one minute which equals about 2,400 votes within an hour. Multiply that by the extra 2 hours for the cheating phones and you get over 14,000 votes by one individual provided they keep at it non stop, and believe me there are plenty of tweenagers who can do this. Once the voting officially stopped in Arkansas they switched to the phones with the west coast area codes for the remaining 2 hours. AT&T is a sponsor of American Idol. Who do you think made money on all those pre paid phones? I have a AT&T land line and I was able to vote for Adam about 25 times within 4 hours because of constant busy signals. Meanwhile someone in Arkansas had voted over 500 times that amount using power texting. You only need about 1,500 people to accomplish the amount of votes Kris received in addition to those around the rest of the country who voted for him. If you remove the organizers from the equation and the number is the more realistic 45% - 55% margin that was originally predicted in Adam's favor. How do I know all this you ask? I have a friend in Arkansas who was actually voting for Adam and they told me. The information is on the internet as well, you just have to look for it.

Second, on the http://www.krisallenation.com/search/label/Gizmo website people were instructed and coached on how to use a computer program called Gizmo that would extend their voting time from 4 hours to 7 hours. This program is also able to cast up to 25 votes at once and can be used by people OUTSIDE the United States who are normally not allowed to vote. Some people were claiming on various Kris Allen blogs that they voted as many as 18,000 times within 7 hours using the power text and Gizmo method, and many people overseas are claiming they were able to vote using Gizmo as well.

This was a very organized group of people who clearly cheated in order for Kris to win, and I think it's a shame that the most talented performer in American Idol history came in 2nd place. Simon Cowell was right in not standing up when it was announced that Kris won. I wouldn't have stood up either.

Adam Fans!!! Now's the time to support him. Buy up everything he has on Itunes and Amazon.com. That's what people who can help him look at. Let's do it now. Show him we love him and he's the true American Idol!

I wonder how much money the writer of this article lost from Kris' winning the AI? He seems on a real mission to discredit Kris. I must say that the only thing he is doing is enraging the fans of Kris who voted for him so much so that they will show Kris their support even more. I have family in Texas and friends in California who voted for Kris Allen. For me, I love how Kris interprets his songs. He sings them with heart and soul, and he is a very good musician as well. I like Adam too for his stage presence and drama, but I don't like his style of singing. It's as simple as that. It's just so sad that Adam was pimped by the judges from the start that when he lost it looked like he was robbed. The truth is Kris has his fans, too, that's why "No Boundaries" is currently No.2 in iTunes and that's why he won American Idol.

RECOUNT! RECOUNT! RECOUNT!
AT & T skewed the results.

ADAM should have won!!!!!!!!!! they NEED TO HAVE A RECOUNT because all of these little people 10-16 all voted for kris and they think he is actually "CUTE"!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha wrong. I BET IF IT WENT OFF FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS AND NEVER CAME BACK ON UNTIL YOU STUPID PEOPLE REALIZE KRIS SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! ADAM IS WAY MORE HOTTER THAN HIM, BECAUSE THE WHOLE GOTHIC LOOK IS HOT TOO. I WANT A FREAKIN RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!! RECOUNT, RECOUNT, YALL JUST DON'T WANT A RECOUNT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT LIKED ADAM THAT HAD TO GO TO BED OR SOMTHING WILL VOTE FOR HIM!!!!!!!!!!! THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO KRIS DAUGHTRY AND NOW HIM!!!! NO WAY THEY NEED TO STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!! HELLO ITS A SINGING CONTEST NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST OR IT WOULD BE CALLED "BEAUTY IDOL". YOU PEOPLE I KNOW I'M TALKIN TO ALL OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR KRIS, YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A FREAKIN GRIP ITS NOT A DAMN BEAUTY CONTEST. SO ALL OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR KRIS ALLEN YOU SUCK. ADAM SHOULD BE IN THAT SPOT. OH KRIS HAS A WIFE AND A KID. OH DID I BURST YOUR LITTLE BUBBLE OOPS.STOP VOTING FOR LOOKS YOU HORNY B*T*H*ES

ADAM should have won!!!!!!!!!! they NEED TO HAVE A RECOUNT because all of these little people 10-16 all voted for kris and they think he is actually "CUTE"!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha wrong. I BET IF IT WENT OFF FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS AND NEVER CAME BACK ON UNTIL YOU STUPID PEOPLE REALIZE KRIS SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! ADAM IS WAY MORE HOTTER THAN HIM, BECAUSE THE WHOLE GOTHIC LOOK IS HOT TOO. I WANT A FREAKIN RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!! RECOUNT, RECOUNT, YALL JUST DON'T WANT A RECOUNT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT LIKED ADAM THAT HAD TO GO TO BED OR SOMTHING WILL VOTE FOR HIM!!!!!!!!!!! THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO KRIS DAUGHTRY AND NOW HIM!!!! NO WAY THEY NEED TO STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!! HELLO ITS A SINGING CONTEST NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST OR IT WOULD BE CALLED "BEAUTY IDOL". YOU PEOPLE I KNOW I'M TALKIN TO ALL OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR KRIS, YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A FREAKIN GRIP ITS NOT A DAMN BEAUTY CONTEST. SO ALL OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR KRIS ALLEN YOU SUCK. ADAM SHOULD BE IN THAT SPOT. OH KRIS HAS A WIFE AND A KID. OH DID I BURST YOUR LITTLE BUBBLE OOPS.STOP VOTING FOR LOOKS YOU HORNY B*T*H*ES

ADAM should have won!!!!!!!!!! they NEED TO HAVE A RECOUNT because all of these little people 10-16 all voted for kris and they think he is actually "CUTE"!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha wrong. I BET IF IT WENT OFF FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS AND NEVER CAME BACK ON UNTIL YOU STUPID PEOPLE REALIZE KRIS SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! ADAM IS WAY MORE HOTTER THAN HIM, BECAUSE THE WHOLE GOTHIC LOOK IS HOT TOO. I WANT A FREAKIN RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!! RECOUNT, RECOUNT, YALL JUST DON'T WANT A RECOUNT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT LIKED ADAM THAT HAD TO GO TO BED OR SOMTHING WILL VOTE FOR HIM!!!!!!!!!!! THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO KRIS DAUGHTRY AND NOW HIM!!!! NO WAY THEY NEED TO STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!! HELLO ITS A SINGING CONTEST NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST OR IT WOULD BE CALLED "BEAUTY IDOL". YOU PEOPLE I KNOW I'M TALKIN TO ALL OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR KRIS, YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A FREAKIN GRIP ITS NOT A DAMN BEAUTY CONTEST. SO ALL OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR KRIS ALLEN YOU SUCK. ADAM SHOULD BE IN THAT SPOT. OH KRIS HAS A WIFE AND A KID. OH DID I BURST YOUR LITTLE BUBBLE OOPS.STOP VOTING FOR LOOKS YOU HORNY B*T*H*ES

Basically, people have to stop making it an “Adam” issue, and start making it a consumer rip off issue. The vote was essentially rigged … I mean that’s obvious. AT&T admitted to improprieties in the voting process in Arkansas. This means that there was fraudulent behavior on their part and possibly AI, and consumers may be entitled to get their money back for being falsely enticed into voting (in order for AI and AT&T to suck money out of them of course) with the promise that their votes would count during the AI season and especially the finale. Some people spend a lot of money voting, and for what? IT’S RIGGED FOLKS.

Fraud By Wire is a federal crime, therefore applicable in every state simply by filing a complaint. You can file a complaint on line with the FCC or by submitting a complaint in writing by US Mail to:
Federal Communications Commission
Consumer & Governmental Affairs Bureau
Consumer Inquiries and Complaints Division 445 12th Street, SW
Washington, DC 20554.
www.fcc.gov.cqb
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm

Complain, as a matter of principle. Why should AI and AT&T not be held accountable?

Basically, people have to stop making it an “Adam” issue, and start making it a consumer rip off issue. The vote was essentially rigged … I mean that’s obvious. AT&T admitted to improprieties in the voting process in Arkansas. This means that there was fraudulent behavior on their part and possibly AI, and consumers may be entitled to get their money back for being falsely enticed into voting (in order for AI and AT&T to suck money out of them of course) with the promise that their votes would count during the AI season and especially the finale. Some people spend a lot of money voting, and for what? IT’S RIGGED FOLKS.

Fraud By Wire is a federal crime, therefore applicable in every state simply by filing a complaint. You can file a complaint on line with the FCC or by submitting a complaint in writing by US Mail to:
Federal Communications Commission
Consumer & Governmental Affairs Bureau
Consumer Inquiries and Complaints Division 445 12th Street, SW
Washington, DC 20554.
www.fcc.gov.cqb
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm

Complain, as a matter of principle. Why should AI and AT&T not be held accountable?

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