Happy 420 to my teenage stepdaughter?
Anyone remember this classic (and compelling) anti-drug ad from the 1980s?
Happy 4/20!
In case you don't know it, today is some sort of counterculture holiday. If someone wishes you a Happy 4/20, you've been identified as a marijuana smoker, past, present, future or indifferent.
My 16-year-old stepdaughter got a Happy 420 text message this morning.
What the?
I doubt she's using: none of the tell-tale signs are present. But clearly at least one friend is. Or plans to. Or doesn't think it's a big deal.
I'm proud to say I have never, ever smoked a joint or taken any illegal drug (I drank before I was 21, so I used a legal drug illegally, but I've never had so much as a puff of marijuana).
We all try so hard to keep our kids safe. How do you handle the drug talk in your family?
Here's a tongue-in-cheek look at "ineffective" ads, although I don't dislike them all that much.

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Comments
shut up you stupid whore! DIE
Posted by: dan | April 20, 2009 12:38 PM
I smoke lots of good medicinal pot. I can guarantee if she recieved that message, she definately smokes pot. Where is she going tonight? Probably to take a bong hit, knife hit, steamroller, blunt, joint, kif rip, etc.
Posted by: dan | April 20, 2009 12:43 PM
Dan, part of me wants to delete your comments as inappropriate for this site. However, in the spirit of "this is your brain on drugs," I think I'll let the comments stand.
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 12:45 PM
WHA?
ok first of all there are two groups of people, people who use, and people who abuse...
If you abuse alcohol you smell like p..., and you look like ****!
If you abuse pot, well of course your not going to be able to do anything.
Responsible users smoke at night, and then can sleep it off.
Posted by: Gus | April 20, 2009 12:58 PM
At 16, all use is abuse.
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 1:02 PM
if she catches a buzz on 420 at 16 i think its oki. she could be doing worse
Posted by: isabella | April 20, 2009 1:21 PM
marijuana is the only way to save our nation. it IS safe and fantastic. anyone who opposes marijuana legalization is a terrorist or a retard or a retarded terrorist.
Posted by: Matt | April 20, 2009 1:27 PM
So if I don't take a drag.... the terrorists win?
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 1:31 PM
I agree with "shut up you stupid whore! DIE
by the way, happy 420
Posted by: Gits High | April 20, 2009 1:55 PM
Remind me, these are the users, not the abusers, right?
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 1:58 PM
Marijuana and alcohol are marginally comparable. Marijuana cannot match the detrimental effects that alcohol has on both mind and body. I use vodka as a solvent to clean all sorts of things.
There is a difference between reality and legality. Both drugs have the power to destroy or create. I have seen many die from alcohol abuse. From diabetes to seizures from abrubt withdrawl to slow and pathetic wasting away. Marijuana, on the other hand, has made many a friend fat and lazy.
I would rather be fat and lazy than lose my body to a dangerous solvent.
I am, however, not fat and lazy. Use of an illegal drug, in reality, is not an indicator that mandates the label of "abuse."
All said, keep your daughter safe, but don't lie to her. The truth should be convincing enough and any mistruth is easily construed by a teenager that all "truths" must be false. That is a dangerous mindset to engender.
Posted by: Sushi | April 20, 2009 2:00 PM
I think for a father who has never done any drugs, probably has the inability to make a connection between "being a burn out" and "experimenting in moderation". If she is using then you should not be alarmed but rather understanding. I smoke regularly but im also in my second year of undergrad studies at SFSU. Even though I "use illegal drugs" doesnt mean im not a productive member of society. The same is most likely true of you kids.
Posted by: Tom | April 20, 2009 2:07 PM
"Illegal drugs" is a label that may cause youngsters to assume that since marijana is illegal, yet safe, then drugs like meth, cocaine, heroin, and assorted narcotic prescription drugs are also safe. This should throw an enormous "bull****" flag to everyone here.
Be careful to make this distinction.
I made this assumption at one point and nearly lost my life.
Drugs are real and no amount of social biasing can deny the effects of a chemical.
"Experimentation in moderation" is a joke. "Sane and healthy use" is a more realistic way of putting things.
Also, any comparison between alcohol, pot, ADD medication, opiates and such is bogus. Each drug deserves its own place. Some on earth and some in hell. When talk moves to "well, alcohol is legal" and such, the denial of the individual properties runs rampant. Cars are real and drugs are real.
Posted by: Sushi | April 20, 2009 2:17 PM
haha I laughed at that commercial. I do remember that 'Just say No' crap that they used to plaster the airwaves with and where Nancy Reagan would preach to school kids across the Country.
Those people were all wrong, just as the prohibitionists are wrong today.
Marijuana is not harmful. No one has ever died from using pot. Smoking pot won't cause you go break into someones house or to murder anyone. Everything your government has EVER told you about Marijuana has been a lie.
Smoking pot won't hurt you or ruin your life.
Go out today and celebrate a great holiday. Go spark one up at the 4:20 mark today.
WHITEHOUSE GETS PERMISSION TO LIE REGARDING MARIJUANA:
http://www.mpp.org/news/press-releases/white-house-gets-permission-to-lie.html
Posted by: Ron Paul Fan | April 20, 2009 2:21 PM
The preceding comment is NOT approved by SunSentinel.com or the Moms & Dads blog. :)
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 2:48 PM
How many of us, as kids, said things just to be cool? I suspect that, yah, many kids know what 420 Day is about but that does not mean that they actually partake of the drug. Most kids will experiment at some point but an in touch, observant parent could notice something getting out of hand as long as the parents don't live in denial.
I smoked pot in college and every once in a while after joining the ranks of professional working stiffs. I am much more productive the work day after a night of smoking pot vs. a night of drinking. My brother, who owns a very successful business, sent me a 420 greeting this morning and he WILL be toking in honor of the day. Just don't tell our mom.
Posted by: Belle | April 20, 2009 2:58 PM
listen lady,
you need to relax. warn her it's illegal but don't lie to her and tell her it's the worst thing in the world to be doing right now. nuggets are made to be enjoyed, not outlawed and mocked by prescription companies that make harmful substitutes.
Posted by: wil | April 20, 2009 4:07 PM
Listen Wil, put down the hashpipe for one second and re-read my name: I'm a man.
Ok, I'm relaxed now.
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 4:13 PM
If you "doubt" she's using, then you are an idiot.
Posted by: steve | April 20, 2009 6:24 PM
Then I'm an idiot.
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 6:29 PM
Case closed.
Posted by: steve | April 20, 2009 6:38 PM
first of all, you should not be reading her text messages, it is an invasion of her privacy. She is 16 years old and can make decisions for herself. You should sit down and tell her that smoking pot is ok but she should not get carried away with it. You should probably try smoking pot so you could understand why she is smoking (because she obviously is). You should also try smoking with her and make it perfectly clear that pot is an acceptable way to relax, but not something she should be doing every day.
Posted by: Mark | April 20, 2009 6:44 PM
how can you comment on something you've never even tried? you have no knowledge of it and no experience with it.
go raid your daughter's room and spin up a fatty.
Posted by: chad | April 20, 2009 6:51 PM
Mark,
I didn't read her text messages. She asked her mother what does "happy 420" mean. And I am so glad that judgmental and presumptuous know-it-alls do not get to decide what's okay in my family.
I love how you and Steve and anyone else decides based on my stepdaughter's receipt of a text message that you know my family better than I do. You don't.
Honestly, the only thing you guys have done is show what excessive drug use does to a person's tact and ability to carry on a civilized conversation.
Chad, I've never tried drinking ammonia with a sulfuric acid chaser, either. Guess what? I don't need to. I don't need crack cocaine, powdered cocaine, heroin, meth, amphetamines or anything else I don't want to put in my body, and I don't need to experience those things to comment on them. U.S.A.! U.S.A.!
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 6:55 PM
Happy 4:20!
It's just a day and time most pot smokers use to celebrate. Let's tax it, so we can make oil from the seeds, rope and clothes from the fibers. Legalize it and crimes along our borders will drop. Alcohol is much worst for mind and body. Yet it suffered prohibition in the early 30’s then re legalized. At one point in American history, marijuana was legal before prohibition. Then the government created the Marijuana Tax Stamp. It was a way to catch the so called bad guys. 11 U.S. States now allow for small possession of marijuana.
Florida is not one of them, but should be. The war on drugs is an ever wasting use of tax dollars. We need to create new State laws and rewrite the Federal laws on this issue. What someone does in the privacy of their own home should not be penalized. Yet I’d feel safer in the back seat of a friends car who was smoking pot rather than drinking beer that day. As for anyone that mentioned never trying marijuana, I call you a hypocrite for not understanding in depth the reason for this message. It must suck losing sleep just for thinking about not experimenting. I have a question for the general public…. If it is legalized, would you be the first in line to try it, even though you never tried it before?
Posted by: Styngray | April 20, 2009 8:07 PM
I found this for your viewing pleasure.
http://tv.mpp.org/news/bruce-mirken-on-cnbc-reports-04162009/
Happy 4:20
Posted by: Styngray | April 20, 2009 8:22 PM
Tom, I didn't stop to thank you for your earlier comment, but I think you're right: while I seriously doubt she's using now, if she ever does, I think an understanding response would be much more effective than an iron fist.
Styngray: Thanks for the link. I was a little lost at what you said near the end of your first comment.
If I understand you right, I disagree with you: I reject the notion that I cannot comment on drugs unless I try them, or that commenting on marijuana without ever having tried it is somehow hypocritical. That's absurd on its face. Just think, how could you comment on being drug free if you're not?
Experience is a good teacher (some say the best), but it's not the only teacher. I can learn a lot about marijuana by observing, for example, the effect that it had on people close to me.
Even with that said, the fact is, if you go back to my original post, I did not say ONE NEGATIVE THING about marijuana. Nothing. All I said was that I never tried it, and I'm proud of that, and some of the comments here would begrudge me my right to say that.
Parenting is tough, and being a stepparent can be even tougher when it comes to something like this. But this one thing I can say: I'm proud to be an example of the fact that a person can actually go his whole life without pot.
Well, so far, anyway. :0
Posted by: Rafael | April 20, 2009 8:50 PM
I ment no hard feelings. It is your God given right to be concerned of the children in your household. If she is 16 yrs old, she should know about sex and drugs. This also implies about her learning to be an outsanding citizen now and into the future. She will be dealing with topics that our parents shyed away from year ago. It's important to be open minded and liberal during these issues.
These no more just this or just that. Everyone should have a choice like it or not.
Thank you.
Posted by: Styngray | April 21, 2009 12:03 AM
No offense taken, Styngray. You made your point well. Even if I argue that "hypocrite" is harsh, it's not as harsh as "shut up you stupid whore, die." You made your point respectfully. I meant to reply respectfully. So I thank you.
Posted by: Rafael | April 21, 2009 10:43 AM
You need to talk to her honestly about drugs. Marijuana is a relatively benign drug which if used in moderation has few negative side effects. When abused (aka used excessively), it can cause lethargy and overall laziness, which in a 16 year old can reflect on grades.
However, it is important to tell her that while pot isn't necessarily bad every once in awhile, there are dangerous drugs like methamphetamine, cocaine and opiates which can destroy a life.
The most dangerous thing about pot is that it's illegal, and that's important to discuss with her too. My dad when I was growing up had a rule against bringing it in the house, but was not overly strict about its general use.
Just be honest and fair, understand that it's embedded into society and it needs to be handled properly.
Posted by: Anonie | April 21, 2009 11:53 PM
Note to dopers:
One marijuana cigarette has about the same effect on the lung as a pack of cigarettes. This is well researched.
Posted by: Paul | April 23, 2009 12:39 PM
Say your daughter has never smoked weeds. If she's read your post and knows that marihuana is considered forbidden fruit (and highly recommended by so many of your readers), then she's gonna take her first puff of that fire tonight when she sneaks out of the house with her text messaging friend. Nice work, Rafel. But don't beat yourself (or her) up. The good news is that weed is great. And not harmful.
Posted by: Andrew | April 25, 2009 1:05 AM
Funny thing about her: she respects her mom's and my opinion more than the opinions of stoned strangers on the Internet.
But I see your point. This thread, and no other source of information on earth, will teach her that marijuana is forbidden fruit. She didn't know that before. Or that people who use it - like it. All new info.
Honestly, what are some of you people smoking?
Oh yeah, that's right.
Posted by: Rafael | April 25, 2009 11:48 AM