Truly these mothers are having difficult times on top of an already difficult situation. To me, really it is the people who just passed by and left her in this state for how long? This is it to me..Americans that are oblivious to others never to do anything just complain. Leave the responsibility to the courts and your loose your freedoms. All of you who could have helped and did nothing. Criminal police are not supposed to be used to enforce morality or responsibility. I will never give anyone a ride home from the bar because if they have been drinking and you can smell it so can the police even if you have not had anything. You cant pass tests when they are paid incentives to arrest americans, were all drunks after 1 drink in the eyes of the Law. You just have not been caught. Dont worry though, road blocks, cell phone call ins . I should just sit outside your favorite club and put MDPD on speed dial. Morons are in charge.

Yes it did happen, i was arrested as a designated driver and hauled to jail passed the test and released to find my own way back to my car and after having been treated badly. This Law creates criminals. All any of you had to do was help. I see you as even less than her.

By your own words you are accepting responsibility for those kids. You can not be responsible and do nothing. The mother proves that. Each one of us, a part of a whole. We all have to do our part even help each other on an individual level. one on one for each other, Dont you all remember? Maybe if we practiced what we b1t7ch about? Nah, that would make sense. Cant have that. Common sense, common respect, common responsibility. Police are not Parents, friends, and neighbors when they are doing thier jobs. We all need to be a little more proactive. Makes sense to me.

Thanks for the comments, Bruce. Not sure I follow your line of logic, though. If they were friends or family of mine, then you can be damn sure I would've helped. If I had come across either of these scenarios as a stranger, then I hope I would've had the courage to step in and do something.

Chris Tiedje, actually you do get it, however it is limited to blood, emotions, and acquaintance, All religion tells us to love our neighbor, who says that is limited to who you know? Just as these women are responsible for thier actions so are you, your responsible for doing the right thing, and if all you do is watch and complain, then you are not doing your part in this world. You should be willing to help everyone, anyone that might need it. Even if it is a small thing it is help, dialing 911 helps noone. This is a last resort call. If not many of you would be criminals as teenagers. You all have done stupid stuff and got away with it not because you were good at covering it up, but because someone was willing to help you and give you a second chance. I could go on forever on this but it is near to impossible it seems for anyone but myself to understand. I am just saying help before they get to this point. If we all did 1 thing to improve the life of another or a family, not as fortunate as you , not as a tax credit but because it is the right thing. Why not try it, having criminals run the government and juvenille delinguents as police officers trying to prove something or just get ahead at all costs and passing responsibility of thier actions on to others with Laws made out of fear and hate mongering fixes nothing and is counter productive and works only to fill prisons already overflowing.

You make a great point, Bruce. I do agree that society as a whole needs to do more, but at the same time there is personal responsibility. For the record, I do more than "watch and complain".

Let me try to sum this up ... I am ashamed for the Mothers, they are sick. They do not have the caopacity to be responsible, however, I am ashamed of the ones who let them get to this point. We all have the capacity to help. Making them criminals will not help anyone or anything.

Chris, the worst part is i do understand what the mothers at my victims impact panel were doing. under the mask of help for victims, They for one reason or another blame themselves for the death of a loved one. Yes, thats right they feel guilty for sending them out for the children or telling them they have to go, but that guilt can not and should not be able to force moral reform of this nature. The drunk drivers who live say whoa is me, what am i? What am i going to do now. Heres what is happening. These drunk drivers who kill, still kill. You will never stop them. otherwise you are creating a civilization of criminals, and here is what i think should be done.. The Law has a legal limit that allows for the consumption of alcohol, and allows for operation of the automobile up to that level without being legally drunk. That level and how it is reached depends greatly on physiology and health. The results will vary greatly. That limit is 0.08 BAC, the police enforce this Law with Zero Tolerance that means the only legal limit is 0.00 BAC, not one drink, but in the breath, guess what, the machine doesnt measure Alcohol it measures amino acids, gases (this machine has a sample vacum so the sample could include anything around the inlet, or exhaled by the lungs. Thats right you can go to jail for DUI, for hand sanitizer, rubbing alcohol, room deodorizers, and the list goes on.how about because you are diabetic, because you are on medication, because you are in poor health, This can be measured but guess what, you cant seperate the alohol reading from anything with the same absorption rate and in doing this we convict Americans of a crime. Each conviction takes us a step closer to loosing another freedom. Now they force blood draws for DUI, they dont even have your permission or knowledge.

Bruce, what does blood alcohol level have to do with these women and their responsibility as parents? I'm not arguing drunk driving legislation, I'm talking about these women putting their children in harms way. That is all.

Bruce,

There is no excuse for what these pathetic excuses for mothers did. I don't want to hear that others should have done something.

Regarding "Maybe a MADD or an AA meeting complete with photos of bloody car wrecks would sober them up?" I think putting these women in jail for a few years and taking their kids away and putting them into foster care might sober them up. If not, then no big loss to society. They can rot in jail or drive themselves into a telephone poll without their kids in the car. Hopefully they won't kill anybody else in the process.

Destroying a family will not save it. Not other inteligent life here. No more discussion. We will all loose your way. Never mind, your probably one of those that believes they can do it all by themselves. Good Luck. Wow, what selfish and onesided attitudes are good for. Extinction.see you all on the flip side or not. depends on youi, what do you think about your attitude? This is why i feel sorry for the future....if there is any left when your all done.

Wow, Bruce. Quite a statement. So, anyone who disagrees with you is unintelligent and will lead us to extinction? Yikes.

Thanks for your comment, Joe. I sincerely hope these women can get help and keep their kids, but they should pay the price for what they've done in my opinion.

Yeah I'm trying to figure out how her family members let her drive off OH and take another kid who wasn't even hers with her to boot. She shouldn't have gotten in that car that's for sure but one of her family members surely could have tried to convince her not to take those kids with her after pounding tequilla shots!

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