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brooke and rachel are two of the best characters on the show!

after watching season 3, and 4 you come to realize all rachel wanted was somebody to love her.

not that she was a slut!

Peyton deserves slaps !!!
Come on Brooke, kick peyton's flat ass !!!!

peyton needs a good dose of reality shoved up her self deserving ass. i would love to see them send her off to live somewhere like yugoslavia so she could see what actual suffering is. in the meanwhile, brooke and lucas could get together!

you people are driving everybody nuts!

just get over it already!

as if mark¨and the writers weren't selfish enough to take away brucas, they had to take away baley too. and give lucas and haley to their precious peyton. ugh! Could they possibly spoil peyton any more ? Don´t get me wrong I really like peyton it´s just that it feels like everything brooke has peyotn gets in a matter of seconds :/

That's such a lame statement.

Then why wont you come up with a better ? I actually think that was totaly OK .

"And in the end, Brooke's totally fine with it. I don't get why you people have to hate Peyton so much. Its so retarded."
"She did nasty things when she was supposedly with Lucas."

Your totaly getting me wrong , I like peyton I absolutely don´t hate peyton , I just happen to like brooke more . What I was trying to say was that it is immature to call brooke a slut , whore etc . And you know a Can say that brooke did not act ok when she and lucas had a thing going on in the begining of season 3 , But Brooke didn´t do anything nasty when she actually was together with Lucas , when they actually were a couple .

Yeah right . If brooke desided to go with her parents they would of done the same thing there . And you´re really convinced that brookes parents love her ? Oh God , spare me the laugh .

That's such a lame statement.

You really can´t do better ? Oh come on . That was lame . This only shows how immature you are , calling brooke a slut .

no, you people are immature for actually tolerating Brooke's actions. She did nasty things when she was supposedly with Lucas.

Its too late for her now though. Unlike Brooke however, Peyton was damn honest, even if it hurts. I bet it hurt her more that she had to be that honest with Brooke.

And in the end, Brooke's totally fine with it. I don't get why you people have to hate Peyton so much. Its so retarded.

You really can´t do better ? Oh come on . That was lame . This only shows how immature you are , calling brooke a slut .

Brooke is sooo lucky to have that. Besides, if she wants to be with her parents, then she always had the choice to go with them duh.

Yeah right . If brooke desided to go with her parents they would of done the same thing there . And you´re really convinced that brookes parents love her ? Oh God , spare me the laugh .

So you would prefer your parents giving you money and ship you of just like that , like brookes parents do with her ?

Brooke is sooo lucky to have that. Besides, if she wants to be with her parents, then she always had the choice to go with them duh.

Oh , so you mean she didn´t play hard to get ? well then your wrong , it says right here on onetreehillweb.net when you go to the episode archive :

dumbass. you didn't read it properly. The statement said Peyton does it oh so well.

She played hard to get, the right way. Unlike Brooke -- slut! eww

"and if you're saying that money is THAT important, shouldn't money prove to be her parent's love?"

I havent even said that money is THAT important . So you would prefer your parents giving you money and ship you of just like that , like brookes parents do with her ? Or would you like their love and supporting ?

"hello, at least brooke has two parents. two who are alive supporting her. if that's not love, then i dunno what is."

yes , she does but they are absolutely not supporting her , what show have you been watching . Oh my God , what !! Do you call that love when her parents aren´t even at home and don´t give a shit about her or what she does . I mean she has mentioned it a couple of times that her parents don´t give a crap about her , They just give her money so she can get out of their sights . I´m not saying that peytons condition is better than brookes , but all I´m saying that atleast Peyton has a dad , even though he isn´t at home , But he loves her and tries to support her when he´s home . I mean for brooke it was like growing up with out any parents they just took care of her until she could take care of herself , and then didn´t give a shit .

Hard to get my ass. That's not the way to play hard to get. Peyton does it oh so well, compared to Brooke

Oh , so you mean she didn´t play hard to get ? well then your wrong , it says right here on onetreehillweb.net when you go to the episode archive :

title : First day on a brand new planet

It's the first day of senior year and estranged spouses Nathan and Haley have trouble adjusting as classmates. While Brooke continues to play hard-to-get, Lucas learns a troubling secret about Peyton's mom. Meanwhile, Dan closes in on the truth about the dealership fire.

you see it says " while brooke continues to play HARD-TO-GET "
And if you don´t believe this i suggest you take a loook at onetreehillweb.net episode archive and see yourself (;

and by the way you said "Hard to get my ass. That's not the way to play hard to get." and then you said "Peyton does it oh so well, compared to Brooke
" so first she didn´t play hard to get and then she did ? , woow you´ve got to make up your mind buddy . and yes one more thing peyton doesn´t play hard to get at all , when lucas
wants her she will just trow herself over him . Unlike brooke she actually has some pride and class (;

you people can never justify Brooke sleeping with Chris Kellar... when infact she knows she's exclusively dating with Lucas.

poor Lucas. He should have screwed Rachel's instead.

You people are barking at the wrong tree ya'll.

RACHEL IS THE BIGGEST WHINER! She's pathetic and a complete backstabber. She should be booted out soon!

what ? And you really think this is worse then having your parents not loving you at all they just ship brooke of with money , and don´t even give a shit , atleast Peyton has her dad who loves her , even though he isn´t home . Now , brooke doesn´t even have her her parents in tree hill , she all by her self , I mean rachel isn´t really that of a friend at all .

hello, at least brooke has two parents. two who are alive supporting her. if that's not love, then i dunno what is.

and if you're saying that money is THAT important, shouldn't money prove to be her parent's love?

on the other hand, peyton never got the chance to actually experience that love from her mother. only for a decent few weeks... reminds me of Karen's line.

Now beat that!!

No its not. Its worse to have never felt loved by your parents because they are not here anymore.

what ? And you really think this is worse then having your parents not loving you at all they just ship brooke of with money , and don´t even give a shit , atleast Peyton has her dad who loves her , even though he isn´t home . Now , brooke doesn´t even have her her parents in tree hill , she all by her self , I mean rachel isn´t really that of a friend at all .

You nees to strip something better up than that crap (;

what about "you're crap".

by the way its worse to have parents that dosent even care about you than it is to have had parents who died

No its not. Its worse to have never felt loved by your parents because they are not here anymore.

Like how Peyton would always say, "I would give one day just to bring them and get them back together" referring to her parents.

You're just a sore loser, haha. That anonymous comment totally got into your brain, which is probably as constricted as Brooke's!

HATE YOU HATER! :P

And that brooke played games with lucas and never came clean ? She had to do what she did to find out if lucases feelings were real , even if that ment to play hard to get .

Hard to get my ass. That's not the way to play hard to get. Peyton does it oh so well, compared to Brooke like eww. Having sex with Chris Kellar is indeed so low.

And you yourself said it. Brooke never came clean. No wonder she's not in any serious "clean" relationship. She's a slut! And always will be, and that comment further proved that into our minds.

And you are such an idiot for hating Peyton. Gawd, she's like the greatest girl in the show!

so all you Peyton Haters out there, if you think Peyton's all Whiny, maybe you should look at Brooke and how constricted her own brain is. Better yet, how she actually played games with Lucas and never came clean.

Do you think this pitty comment is going to change our mindes . Peyton is whiny and in our opinion she´s always going to be . And what does peyton beeing whiny have anything to do with Brookes brain ?
And that brooke played games with lucas and never came clean ? She had to do what she did to find out if lucases feelings were real , even if that ment to play hard to get .
That was not even a good respons to why we think peyton is a whiny . You nees to strip something better up than that crap (;

so all you Peyton Haters out there, if you think Peyton's all Whiny, maybe you should look at Brooke and how constricted her own brain is. Better yet, how she actually played games with Lucas and never came clean.

excuse me but everytime something bad happened to brooke she tried to handle it on her own, she didnt come crying to lucas, ore peyton, or anybody else...by the way its worse to have parents that dosent even care about you than it is to have had parents who died

I cannot imagine Brooke being all dramatic, when in the first place, Sophia's acting style isn't suited for that kind of thing to begin with duh! Brooke is a cheerful girl. Didn't go through a lot, except a few relationship problems here and her parents being Bankrupt.

EHHHM WHAT???!!! She was sooo good when she cried, and said to lucas " why wont you ever just let me all the way in?!" and was she not dramatic when she first confronted peyton about cheeting with lucas? what have you been watching? sicko LUCAS AND PEYTON ARE IN A PITTY RELATIONSHIP! ore should I say relationSHIT!

I cannot imagine Brooke being all dramatic, when in the first place, Sophia's acting style isn't suited for that kind of thing to begin with duh! Brooke is a cheerful girl. Didn't go through a lot, except a few relationship problems here and her parents being Bankrupt.

EHHHM WHAT???!!! She was sooo good when she cried, and said to lucas " why wont you ever just let me all the way in?!" and was she not dramatic when she first confronted peyton about cheeting with lucas? what have you been watching? sicko LUCAS AND PEYTON ARE IN A PITTY RELATIONSHIP! ore should I say relationSHIT!

For the person who said that Brooke should get dramatic lines,I mean, what the hell?

I cannot imagine Brooke being all dramatic, when in the first place, Sophia's acting style isn't suited for that kind of thing to begin with duh! Brooke is a cheerful girl. Didn't go through a lot, except a few relationship problems here and her parents being Bankrupt.

SO WHAT?

well , first of all Sophia can play anything you just name it , I mean she´s already proven that with OTH & her recent movies . and second You know it´s not all that easy to live without money . So I totaly disagreec with you .

dear anonymous, what the heck you mean saying that Peyton is mature, she was shot in the leg and she was delirious and dying??? what the heck she just wants to make out with lucas, what a stupid whiner ;peyton is!!! Peyton is ugly!!!She cant act, I can see difference between her crying moneyt to happy moment...oh wait she has neven been happy..sucks to be her.

Seriosly , I don´t give a crap about peyton , she can break down or toughen up I simply don´t care . What a lame question .

For the person who said that Brooke should get dramatic lines,I mean, what the hell?

I cannot imagine Brooke being all dramatic, when in the first place, Sophia's acting style isn't suited for that kind of thing to begin with duh! Brooke is a cheerful girl. Didn't go through a lot, except a few relationship problems here and her parents being Bankrupt.

SO WHAT?

Peyton on the other had WENT THROUGH A LOT. And to those people who are telling Peyton to toughen up, what do you think she's doing?

You people who judge Peyton as some whiner, LOOK AT YOURSELVES, whining over the Internet how much you hate Peyton, when infact you have the audocity to judge someone just because.

And let me tell you this. Peyton's character is far more deeper than anybody else not just because of her experiences, but because she's actually MATURE to think like that.

Remember the time Brooke told Lucas to "fight for her"? I mean, what the hell and HOW THE HELL WAS LUCAS TO KNOW THAT IF BROOK WAS PLAYING THE FIELD? I MEAN HELLO, NON EXCLUSIVE? WHAT THE FUCK!

So all you Peyton Haters out there, if you think Peyton's all Whiny, maybe you should look at Brooke and how constricted her own brain is. Better yet, how she actually played games with Lucas and never came clean.

AND OMG. SHE SLEPT WITH CHRISS KELLAR. THAT MY FRIEND, IS A LOW BLOW.

you people are in denial.
admit it.
YOU LOVE PEYTON.

Man , I didn´t get a crap of what you wrote ! Is there by any chance you speaking a languege of your own ?

For the person who said that Brooke should get dramatic lines, I mean, what the hell?

I cannot imagine Brooke being all dramatic, when in the first place, Sophia's acting style isn't suited for that kind of thing to begin with duh! Brooke is a cheerful girl. Didn't go through a lot, except a few relationship problems here and her parents being Bankrupt.

SO WHAT?

Peyton on the other had WENT THROUGH A LOT. And to those people who are telling Peyton to toughen up, what do you think she's doing?

You people who judge Peyton as some whiner, LOOK AT YOURSELVES, whining over the Internet how much you hate Peyton, when infact you have the audocity to judge someone just because.

And let me tell you this. Peyton's character is far more deeper than anybody else not just because of her experiences, but because she's actually MATURE to think like that.

Remember the time Brooke told Lucas to "fight for her"? I mean, what the hell and HOW THE HELL WAS LUCAS TO KNOW THAT IF BROOK WAS PLAYING THE FIELD? I MEAN HELLO, NON EXCLUSIVE? WHAT THE FUCK!

So all you Peyton Haters out there, if you think Peyton's all Whiny, maybe you should look at Brooke and how constricted her own brain is. Better yet, how she actually played games with Lucas and never came clean.

AND OMG. SHE SLEPT WITH CHRISS KELLAR. THAT MY FRIEND, IS A LOW BLOW.

you people are in denial.
admit it.
YOU LOVE PEYTON.

I have been waiting for Lucas and Peyton to get together since the first season and now it has finally happened. I think Peyton is a lot tougher than people give her credit for. She has lost both of her moms, her dad is nver home, she got shot and almost died,and attacked by her fake brother. If all of that happened to be I think I would be weak and scared with the world too. One of the reasons Peyton and Lucas are so close is because he is aloways there to save her. He is always there to help her because he loves her and they have been through everything together.

there is nooooo chemistry between chad and hilarie when they act whatsoever, that sceen when they kissed in the gym could have been so cute but i didnt feel a thing it looked so plane and i did not feel like they really loved eachoter...brooke and lucas on the other hand have chemistry and you can feel the love between them when they act!

AND ARE YOU CRAZY!?!?!?! BROOKE DOESNT ALWAYS GET HER WAY! LIKE PEYTON STEALS LUCAS KISSES TWICE,STEALS HIM AWAY TWICE, BROOKE FORGIVES HER! THEN JUST SUDDENLY WANTS HIM BACK AND HE JUST CAME BACK!if thats getting your way then you are totally right..GOD..people think before you write!

i did not get that message at all! are you with brooke or peyton?

Brooke she needs to stop chasing after Lucas. If she still wants him then she shouldn't have broken up with him in the firat place.

hello, ofcourse she broke up with him because she loved him so much, she got hurt loving someone who she didnt feel loved her back thats why she broke it off

brooke jumped in and got her way, like she ALWAYS does,

brooke didnt get her way this time, do you really think she wanted lucas to cheat on her that first time? do you think she wanted mr chaez to cheat on her? do you think she just WANTS to be friends with Lucas? do you think she wants her parents to ignore her? do you think she wants to hate peyton?
she doesent she never gets her way!

I LOVE OTH!!
I love Peyton and Lucas, but I really think Peyton needs to toughen up. I mean I guess i can understand why she is so scared and stuff, but she really needs to learn to stand on her own two feet. And Lucas needs to stop babying her all of the time. But I know he is just trying to be a good friend for her, but one day he is not going to be there for her and she is going to crash and burn. And with Brooke she needs to stop chasing after Lucas. If she still wants him then she shouldn't have broken up with him in the firat place. I LOVE NALEY!!

AND ARE YOU CRAZY!?!?!?! BROOKE DOESNT ALWAYS GET HER WAY! LIKE PEYTON STEALS LUCAS KISSES TWICE,STEALS HIM AWAY TWICE, BROOKE FORGIVES HER! THEN JUST SUDDENLY WANTS HIM BACK AND HE JUST CAME BACK!if thats getting your way then you are totally right..GOD..people think before you write!

Well I think she needs to! GOD he is always babying her! I mean I DONT THINK SHE SHOULD END UP WITH LUCAS BECAUSE like her brother said she needs to learn to be alone and he is always there saving her and she needs to save herself so advice for the writters think about it..and ps. she doesn't deserve him..so Lucas go to Brooke and Peyton Toughen Up because Lucas isn't always going to be there

thank you, do the writters read this or is this is vain?

ps. I totally agree she DOES need to get over herlself

she needs to get over herself

brooke jumped in and got her way, like she ALWAYS does,

brooke didnt get her way this time, do you really think she wanted lucas to cheat on her that first time? do you think she wanted mr chaez to cheat on her? do you think she just WANTS to be friends with Lucas? do you think she wants her parents to ignore her? do you think she wants to hate peyton?
she doesent she never gets her way!

Okay Peyton is like the most unlucky person in the world and she has always stayed tough before... if anyone else went through the stuff shes been through they probably would have gone into depression or something .. if she needs some time, so be it

i love one tree hill

i loove peyton. and in the first season, everybody was all about peyton and lucas, but when brooke jumped in and got her way, like she ALWAYS does, everybody rooted for brooke. brooke just moves fast thats all, and peyton needs to learn that if she doesn't move fast, brooke will take her stuff.

plus, the model from ANTM kinda SUCKED. her acting was so FAKE.

hey i was all for peyton and lucus in the beginning but now she doesnt deserve him..she is a slut and too neeedyy and emotional...i like her style of music and i admire that she owns a club but this girl really needs to get a life and i dont mean brookes one!

peyton is always sad and its driving me nuts! oh im sorry think shes gonna cry when she reads this?!

peyton has already cried me a river twotousand times, and im sick of it. she should grow up

Poor Poor peyton please peyton story line is sooooo stupid like she always scroos things up with Lucas and Brooke BACK OFF PEYTON!!!

" If you have such a problem with Brooke having no storylines,stop watching the show.Who's stopping you? "

Oh , no one´s stopping us , we maybe wanna still watch the show to support brooke:D and maybe were kinda waiting for the " the tables to turn around " :D

" I totally agree. I'm happy with the Peyton storyline and I think Brooke got enough 'screen-time' in past seasons; now it's Peyton's turn. "

Now , that´s not completely true , peyton did get a lot of screen time in the past seasons , so don´t lie . And don´t tell me if there was peyton who dind´t get the storylines you will still continue to be happy with the storylines .

" But none of her so called friends has even cared. Where is Brooke? "

what , you´ve got to be kiddin´ why would she be there for peyton when peyton almost never been there for brooke , and they are not even friends at this moment !

After reading all the comments regarding Peyton "toughing up", I simply have to say that it takes time. I actually applaud the fact the OTH is being very realistic in portraying Peyton having a hard time getting over her ordeal. Something as traumatic as what she went through takes time to "get over." It simply would not be believable if her character had "toughened up" from one week to the next. Try and place yourself in her position and see if you could simply forget and "toughen up". Impossible.

As for Lucas "babying", let's think about this. His very good friend was attacked and almost raped and he wants to be there for her so she doesn't have to go through her trauma alone. My question is what is wrong with this?

If she had other friends who had cared enough or bothered to find out how she is doing then perhaps the question might have some validity. But none of her so called friends (with the exception of Lucas) has even cared. Where is Brooke? Where is Haley? Hell, where is Mouth? I have yet to see any of these people offer support.

So again, my question is would you rather, Lucas, be an unfeeling creep and leave her to "toughen up" by herself or actually be the friend that he calls himself? I for one am very glad that he's there for her. If the same had happened to me, I know I would definitely want someone to help me through my ordeal.

"If you have such a problem with Brooke having no storylines,stop watching the show.Who's stopping you?
Season 2 & 3 was all Brooke and yet I didn't hear a single Peyton fan complaining or threatening to stop watching the show.It's Mark's show.He'll do whatever he wants!"

I totally agree. I'm happy with the Peyton storyline and I think Brooke got enough 'screen-time' in past seasons; now it's Peyton's turn.

I don't think Peyton really needs to toughen up- yet, anyway. She's been thru so much and besides, it just happened like a week ago. And it's really good someone's there for her (Unlike Brooke...). I don't think Lucas is babying her; he's just being a good friend and being really supportive. I love all of Peyton's storylines; Hilary Burton is such a good actress and she deserves all the scenes she gets.

If you have such a problem with Brooke having no storylines,stop watching the show.Who's stopping you?
Season 2 & 3 was all Brooke and yet I didn't hear a single Peyton fan complaining or threatening to stop watching the show.It's Mark's show.He'll do whatever he wants!

"And someone needs to tell Mark Schwann to stop giving Peyton all the outrageous storylines, while Brooke gets the crap with no storyline to it. I mean at least give Sophia something decent to work with because I'm pretty sure she'd own it. She's amazing at emotional scenes and her acting is phenomonal. I forgot.. is this ONE TREE HILL or ONE PEYTON HILL. Yeah I think someone needs to remind the writers.
"

That´s so true and exactly how I feel. I´m actually very very dissapointed at the writers at this point . It´s so ridicilous how they trying to shuv sophia in the backround :(
I think that the writers need to do better or else it will just be peyton fans who will watch the show in the future . "

I completely, whole-heartedly agree with them! Brooke is an amazing actress and Mark needs to comprehend that a large number of his fan-base are Brucas/Brooke/Sophia fans and because the writer's and Mark keep insulting us and her talent with these flimsy, unreasonably lame story-lines, and -not to mention- the absence of Brucas after building them up for a full two seasons and then just deserting them) Mark is going to lose a monumental amount of fans.

Honestly, although I want to bash Peyton because I'm a die-hard Brucas fan nd I love them together, but if I was almost raped and killed by my "BROTHER" I would definitly need some help up. Lucas and Peyton have an amazing friendship, and it's nice to see him there for her, but it's also getting a bit annoying with the constant 'Damsil In Distress' plots that the writer's keep throwing at Peyton. All in all, though I believe that she does need to toughen up a tad if she's ever really going to let go of her horrid experience. After all, she doesn't only have Lucas, she has her real brother and his stern disposition might do her some good.

Ok, i love one tree hill, its my favortie tv show. Heres what i think, i like peyton,and everyone keeps saying"toughen up",what the heck do you think shes doing? shes at least trying,and shes IS getting stronger,its just taking a while.And as for lucas,i dont know what kind of friend any of you are out there,but if my friend was almost raped,i would definatley be there for them.Brooke,shes my favortie on the show and i wish she had a more serious story line,i think the whole "Nick" thing was stupid.Sophia is such a good actress and deserves something more from the show+i miss her personality from the second season and I rele miss the drama from the first season it seemed more real and fun.Haley i love her too,her story line is great, i like it! i wish there was more of her and lucas though, like the first season. with nathan,i think that they should have lucas and him enimes or good freinds,to make it more interesting. i rele miss the idea about two brothers playing basketball+highschool drama,but i still love the show its still great!!!!!!!

i feel bad for peyton but i think in order for her to get past this she needs to stop depending on lucas like shes doing. if she cant get over this without him babying her all the time then she will never be independent, and terrible things will keep happining to her. look at brooke, she has been through alot too but she is trying to move on without always crying on lucas shoulder

omg peyton cry me a river.

Seriously, the people that hate Peyton and think shes weak, whiny etc. are usually Brooke/Brucas fans.

Although I am bias too, I love Leyton.

But seriously, Brucas has had its time.. like 3 seasons full of it and I've been waiting for the Leyton storyline to come back in since season one.

I really like Peyton's character, and I think the writers are making all the right decisions in the ways that shes dealing with the post Derek situation. I'm glad that she's not just getting over it because as if anyone would just be like all dandy and fine after nearly being raped and killed. I DON'T THINK SO.

And seriously everyone that says Lucas is babying her etc. are also Brucas fans. because anyone that liked Leyton would be like YAY. Also did anyone think that maybe Lucas is just trying to be there for Peyton? jeez.

"And someone needs to tell Mark Schwann to stop giving Peyton all the outrageous storylines, while Brooke gets the crap with no storyline to it. I mean at least give Sophia something decent to work with because I'm pretty sure she'd own it. She's amazing at emotional scenes and her acting is phenomonal. I forgot.. is this ONE TREE HILL or ONE PEYTON HILL. Yeah I think someone needs to remind the writers.
"

"That´s so true and exactly how I feel . I´m actually very very dissapointed at the writers at this point . It´s so ridicilous how they trying to shuv sophia in the backround :(
I think that the writers need to do better or else it will just be peyton fans who will watch the show in the future"

I agree with the two people who said those comments,i want brooke to have a better storyline than that stupid teacher thing,sophia is such an amazing actress and she deserves a good storyline,i just peyton is having too many storylines this year and at the moment its like a peyton overload,

Peyton will toughen up eventually, you just have to give her more time.

but she has always been week! she was week even in the first season when she didnt have reasons to be, i mena yeah, she lost her mother but brooke kinda did to because her parents dont give a damn about her and you dont see her crying all the time about it

Why do all of you expect Peyton to get over this so quickly? Do you have any idea what shes gone through? The man she thought was her brother tried to rape her and if it wasnt for Lucas and the real Derek, he might have killed her! You saw what he did to that girl at the hospital! I know if it was me i would be doing 10 times worse than she is! And i like how lucas protects her! She needs him in her life! Peyton will toughen up eventually, you just have to give her more time. The whole thing with Derek only happened like 2 weeks ago and you guys expect her to be over it. Im sorry but it doesnt happen that fast. Plus shes been through the shooting, loosing ellie, her dad is always gone, what do you expect? Also, I think that mark and the rest of the writers and crew and everyone that works on OTH is doing an amazing job! Season 4 is the best!!

Peyton Rules

I think Peyton should toughen up. She's already starting to do it and Lucas should stop pratically watching here, like if he was a watch dog. I mean hello, that's why she has that painting on the wall!

To whoever said this, "for people that think she doesnt, you dont know anything about the show. ive watched this since the first time it ever came on."

Yes, I HAVE been watching since the VERY beginning of the series. I KNOW how much Peyton has been through and I understand why she's so upset and scared, but she really.. and I mean REALLY needs to stop the damn whining already.

Yes I think Peyton does need t toughen up, she needs to be like she used to be at the begining of the show. She was ready to fight anyone, now she's to soft. I guess she has some reason since she's been through so much in the past.

Peyton needs to toughen up and that's exactly what she's doing. People seem to forget that she was attacked and almost raped and to top it all of the attacker is still outthere so her paranoia and fear is completely understandable. Of course this is where Derek comes in - to show that she can be strong for herself. And we saw Derek doing that. They can't just wrap up the gravity of the situation in one episode.

As for One Peyton Hill... let's see last episode she probably had the least scenes. I think most people just don't like that Peyton is given the serious storylines and Brooke is shafted but I don't think this is the case. The show and the writers are utilizing the actresses' strengths IMO.
HB is good at serious and SB has great comic timing. And most of the people who complain about this are Brucas fans so the correlation is understandable.

But Peyton will toughen up.

And the ANTM on OTH? bad acting. The only dramatic purpose for her being there was for the Nick thing. The mouth story arc was stupid and really unbelievable "we love virgin boys?" - Are they a cult or something??
If they're going to do crossovers at least get better actors!

I just hate how the writers totaly changed brooke´s personality like that . Mark needs to give brooke some of the story lines and not to peyton all the damn time . sophia is a much better actress than hilarie , No offense but it´s true .

"And someone needs to tell Mark Schwann to stop giving Peyton all the outrageous storylines, while Brooke gets the crap with no storyline to it. I mean at least give Sophia something decent to work with because I'm pretty sure she'd own it. She's amazing at emotional scenes and her acting is phenomonal. I forgot.. is this ONE TREE HILL or ONE PEYTON HILL. Yeah I think someone needs to remind the writers.
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That´s so true and exactly how I feel . I´m actually very very dissapointed at the writers at this point . It´s so ridicilous how they trying to shuv sophia in the backround :(
I think that the writers need to do better or else it will just be peyton fans who will watch the show in the future .

" more like brookeandrachelhill aka sluttywhoreshill. "

OMG , that really shows how mature you are , ok I can agree rachel´s a bit to much , But BROOKE !! No way you just don´t have anything to say about brooke so you call her a slut . What a bunch of crap !

Peyton needs to toughen BACK up like she was at the beginning of this series. Her character has been dulled down that her edges barely show.

And I'm sure this Derek toughening up storyline is only being dragged out so long because the networks want to give Ernest Waddell his screentime. We all know how the WB worked with its pool of stars that they shipped from one show to the next. I'm sure they're just making sure Ernest gets his screentime.
But it has gotten old, move onto Lucas and Peyton together already!!!!!

ANTM Crossover-If THAT was the winner, then the losers have absolutely no talent at all. Caridee was horrendous! I could act better than that, and I'm camera shy! Her wooden delivery and monotone talk didn't do a thing for me...well, that's a lie...it made me cringe and puke.

Kinda like Brooke did with the continuance of her insta-fashion-dream/career. And how about that slap? How horribly acted was that? Both actors must have been taking lessons from Caridee that day or something. Rey Valentin has been flat his whole stint on the show, and Sophia is one dimensional. Dude, you don't slap people in the neck!

How funny is Skills? He just makes me smile. I smile even bigger the more scenes he has without Bevin.

Dan and Karen are sweet. Who isn't rooting for them?

Gigi and Mouth..I could do without, even though Kelsey is a gorgeous yound lady.

Nathan and his insta-debt (seriously, they really do send you notices of these things so you can take care of them BEFORE the debt piles up, kiddo!) were annoying.

But at least there was no Nathan/Haley cheesiness, well not it's normal level.

Haley and the kids was cute, good filler for the Brooke idiocy.

Lucas didn't do much this episode. He sure did look hot as Hell though! 92% from the line and 100% HOT!

I agree peyton needs something besides Lucas. and can anyone else get more screen time. its like peytonhill.

totally all i see brooke doing is making out

I enjoyed watching peyton so much in season two, she had just met elly and it was weird but still not over the top, remember the scene back in season one when they are at the cheerleading competition and she sits down on jakes bed and starts talking to him, she is so cute and untroubled and i liked that so much she was this cool conversegirl and now she is the depressed girl. she needs to get of her ass and get over lucas, start living again and make friends with brooke who i think should be with lucas, but its more to it than that, the writers are JUST GIVING ALL THE GOODS TO PEYTON! i mean there are so many other talanted acters on the show and they dont get the chance to show it, brooke for example just gets to make out with the old guy and be all OMG, he gave me earrings and lucas gave me a cd. and that is not the real brooke, she has no feelings now and i think its weird that she can change her personality like that, i know she is smart and valnurable so show that writers!
AND LUCAS NEEDS TO STOP BABYSITTING PEYTON

Peyton DOES need to be toughen up!! It's getting really annoying, all the drama! Lucas should really stop babying around! She needs to save herself for once...

I am sick of peyton and her drama. Soo much has happened to that girl and its unrelistic.

This season she seems to have formed some sort of obbession with lucas and he is the only one that she talks to and cares about.

YEs she needs to toughen up. I am so sick of seeing her cry adn whine all the time. We never get a chance to see any of the other characters go through anything cos its always peyton and her drama. its getting very very boring now and the record needs changing.

Of course I think Peyton needs to toughen up. It's like Derek says, she's not going to be able to fully live her life until she gets over this whole Derek thing.

And someone needs to tell Mark Schwann to stop giving Peyton all the outrageous storylines, while Brooke gets the crap with no storyline to it. I mean at least give Sophia something decent to work with because I'm pretty sure she'd own it. She's amazing at emotional scenes and her acting is phenomonal. I forgot.. is this ONE TREE HILL or ONE PEYTON HILL. Yeah I think someone needs to remind the writers.

Oh and I really hated Peyton's comment about liking the old Derek better. It wasn't even funny in the slightest bit. Peyton was practically crying like a baby right before because Derek was, like omg totally 'stalking' her again. Um okay Peyton ? Can you act mature for like all of 2 seconds ? Thanks.

I think that Peyton has really been freaked out by her stalker experience and needs to put her foot down and take back her life. But I also think that is going to be hard for her while he is still running free and a constant threat. I don't blame Lucas for wanting to protect her. I mean, good grief, the girl has no one but him and now her brother. Everbody needs a good support system.

Peyton DEFINITELY needs to toughen up. She can't have Lucas being there for her all the time! It's pathetic.

I know that Peyton has been through a lot but I really need her to get it together. She is not the only person who's life is hard...she needs to pick her self up and try to make the best of things. Lucas has his own issues that he needs to deal with and that includes try to protect and save everyone. I'm also glad that the writers are addressing the weakness issue with Peyton..go Derek. But, I also need the writers to realize that the show IS starting to focus on Peyton a little bit too much. I swear the show was about two brothers And their friends. Not the other way around.

Of course i think peyton should toughen up. seriously, i don´t hate her i just dislike people who are unable to be there for themselves. she can´t keep running to lucas expecting to be saved, save yourself. and the part about she´s been throug a lot, i know people who have gone to incredible shity things and twice the pain and are way stronger than her.

Well I do prefer the fact that Derek is toughening her up,but also I don't mind Lucas babying her:D

yeah she definitely needs to toughin up. Theres not always going to be someone to fall on and shes kind of a baby as it is =)

i think paytons been through so much and i like that lucas always saves her because he cares about her and she needs someone to save her. plus i think that lucas and her are gonna be together

I am so sick of Lucas saving Peyton. Why can't Peyton look after herself? That is why I love Peyton with Jake - she was so strong when she was with him. She not only looked after herself, but also Jenny and Jake. Ah wells, I guess she went and ruined that :(

i think that peyton has every reason to be upset and scared. for people that think she doesnt, you dont know anything about the show. ive watched this since the first time it ever came on. it is the best show ever. peyton has been through more things than anyone else on the show. and i think it is right for lucas to be there for her.

Toughen up girl! I'm so sick of tired of Peyton "I'm the victim". Yeah so you've been true a lot but so has other people and they don't need a babysitter like Lucas.

This girl had so much more core when she dated Jake and didn't feel like the "I'm the victim" girl all the time.

i cant believe what i'm reading. peytonhill? yeah right, more like brookeandrachelhill aka sluttywhoreshill. and peyton has suffered more than anyone on the show. yeah, i think she should toughen up a little, but she does NOT whine at ALL compared to brooke. brooke is the biggest whiner on the show. she drives me crazy. especially since she has relatively nothing to whine about. in the last few episodes shes toned the whining down, but its there.
lucas is just being a good friend to peyton...hopefully soon to be MORE than friends.

no matter what happens, i will TRY to remain a loyal fan to OTH. because i find that this season's story has more MEAT to it. and it just make you wana see more. whereas in the case of peyton marie sawyer, she really needs to toughen up. besides, her acting doesn't sound and look that convincing anymore. flashbacks and panic attack in this eppy doesn't seem to mash well together for her scenes. moreover, i find that hilarie's acting in the previous eppys leading to psycho derek is much better compared to yesterday's eppy. i hope that she can stand on her own feet soon! in fact, she should take a leaf from brooke's character. i don't know why.. in spite of brooke's sensitivity, stupidity over the reality of her relationship with lucas, it looks like brooke seemed to be coming out as a better character compared to peyton this time. it is as though a reverse luck karma thing that is going on between those two girls. hahaha..

as for caridee, was she even there? no offence, i only see rachel the slut/nearly turning over a new leaf there. i don't see the point of crossover. it may help in rating boosting for ANTM, but for me.. it was a pointless move. still, can't wait for next week!

i love peyton shes the best of the girls on the show and i think she should fight bakk against her stalker and listen to her brother

When is luke and payton getting together.. stop beating around the bush.. caridee crossover wasn't needed. it didn't fit

Peyton needs to toughen up. We GET IT. You've been through a lot. But I don't want to see another episode of her crying and acting pathetic.

I think Peyton's annoying. She whines too damn much. Yes, I realize how much she's gone through and that must be tough as hell, BUT STOP WHINING ABOUT IT, god. I think Derek's right about Lucas babying her and that he needs to stop. I'm so glad he's there to finally tell her what I've been wanting to tell her for a long time.

I agree peyton needs something besides Lucas. and can anyone else get more screen time. its like peytonhill.

Prefer the fact that Derek decides to toughen her up rather than Lucas babying her.Peyton should be independent and strong."It's life dog and eventually you gotta live it!"

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