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The episode was good!

Damn you, Dean! Just tell the whole truth for once! And Sam was right for being pissed at him. He should know all of it. He's family of course!

I like Ava, she's very interesting. I don't think she's evil at all. Her lover has been murdered in cold blood. And who put the salt in the house? It can't be Ava, but someone else perhaps?

Gordon's a crazy SOB! Glad that the police came in to arrest him. I think he'll get out... eventually.

I think that Gordon was bluffing about Sam's secret. It wasn't Ellen, Jo or Ash either. They wouldn't betray the Winchesters like that -- that's what families are for.

Sam and Dean are back and better than ever. Can't wait for new episodes!

Wow, A. Hui, and thank you - did I pay you for those referrals to my blog entries? If I haven't, I should!

I loved Hunted, and I love this show. I know that some fans were less than thrilled with the revelation of the secret, mostly because it didn't come as a surprise to fans who'd been speculating about it based both on story structure and on Dean's behavior since learning it, but I was enthralled precisely because, from the perspective of the characters, it was huge. While Sam has been afraid of what he may become ever since Nightmare, Dean has always denied the possibility - always! - and for Sam to hear that John contemplated a need to kill him and laid the burden on Dean's shoulders had to have been the worst of disorienting shocks, an implied confirmation of everything that Sam has feared. Hearing the words also put all of Dean's actions this season into perspective. I found both boys perfectly in character, simply experiencing one heck of a challenge and reacting to it each in their own ways. And I'm certain that Sam hearing from Gordon that, despite everything, Dean still staunchly believed in him, not in the threat of anything he might become, has had a steadying influence on him much larger than Sam has shown.

I have no complaints of the way in which Eric Kripke, Robert Singer, and the entire writing and creative crew are shaping this story. This is the story of the Winchester brothers, and both of them are essential to it; both of them are growing, developing, and being given their due. I never fail to be impressed with the performances turned in by Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki. Going back over the season two episodes after seeing Hunted and watching Jensen's layered portrayal of Dean was a revelation: the truth of the secret is there, apparent in every look, every reaction. I am officially impressed. And Jared's Sam has become much older and deeper, as befits his growth with its new perspective and understanding.

I can't wait to see where Kripke and Company are taking us, and I will definitely be along for the ride.

teah the big secret was kinda lame ,that cant be the only thing john said to dean before he died ,theres gotta be more but dean cant pull himself together enough to tell sammy!!!plus dean is gettin all of the attention this season and i am now happy that sam has finally gotten his chance !!!i just really wanna see evil sam (i know i'm weird !!!)but come on we need to see something a MAJOR show of abilities from sam or even a big fight seen and sam seriously needs to kill something!!!all that supresed anger would just disapper!!

It's been interesting reading everyones views on Sam's behavior in this episode. I believe Sam taking off was very much in character and expected. Think back to "Scarecrow". Sam ditched Dean then. Sam wanted answers from John and was determined to get them and wouldn't listed to Dean. The only reason Sam went back was because he thought Dean might be in danger. Also, we all know the back story of the blowout John & Sam had regarding Sam going to college. Of course, Sam went. Now, Dean tells Sam, if he cant's save him he'll have to kill him. Dean wants to lay low. Sam wants to find out what's happening to him or what may happen to him. What did John know and why would his family have to kill him some day? What exactly are they trying to stop from happening? Once again, Sam wants answers, needs answers, and will get answers. Seems when Sam is determined, he gets impulsive and doens't doesn't listen to others.

I hated this Episode. In fact all the myth arc episodes suck. I am Not a Sam fan and I am liking him less and less all the time. This show was suppose to be about 2 brothers on the road fighting evil. Now it is the Super special Sammy show and Dean is along for the ride. Jensen Ackles is far to talented to be wasting his time with this. Not what I signed on for and Not what I will contiue to watch.

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In other words, Sam isn't perfect. The kid freaked. I love Sam, but he can be selfish. That's been established. There are a great many good reasons that many viewers loved this episode; Sam's perfectly human reaction was one of them. He didn't want to stay and fight with Dean. He felt he had to *do* something; he was angry, and Dean was putting on the pressure for them to lay low because he was so scared. Sam's selfishness made the episode seem more legit to me. He was selfish, childish, and yet completely in character for someone very young who'd just been told that his father believed he might have to be murdered by his big brother some day. Can you say you wouldn't freak out? I can't explain it any better than that. Your mileage may vary, of course.

Hmmmm, that's an interesting perspective on Sam's behavior in "Hunted." I didn't consider it that way.

I thought it was completely in character for Sam to freak out during the big reveal, a scene in which Padalecki did some very good acting. But I still see Sam running away as out of character--it doesn't feel true to the character. Yes, Sam is scared and angry, especially because the one person he thought he could count doesn't even trust him, and he doesn't know what to do. However, Sam is also a hunter, a pretty darn good one. He knows what's hunting him; I don't think he would have made such a reckless move.

I know when of the complaints regarding Sam's characterization this season is that he has been too perfect. But having him run off--if it is intended to show he is immature and selfish--failed, at least for me, to add another dimension to Sam's character. It felt like it came right of of left field, and feels like sloppy writing.

Also, I doubt the writers/directors wanted us to see Sam as being selfish or immature because of the final conversation in the Impala. Dean doesn't even yell at Sam for having run off, and then, Sam flips the conversation around and tells Dean "the moral of tonight's episode" -- that you can't run away from truth. It certainly doesn't seem like the writers want the audience to believe that Sam made a bad decision in regards to running away.

I don't mean to kill the squee over this episode; if you enjoyed it, more power to you! It just didn't really work for me.

This last episode was one of the best! At the end, they left everyone so curious that they can't wait til the one on the 18. That's the best way to make a movie, mysterious, I felt like I was right there feeling what they were feeling and thinking what they were thinking. I have to say that they got me at the end when Ava was gone, the boyfriend dead, sulfur was found, no one knew what was going to happen.

Well, I have to say that spending five weeks of waiting for this episode was totally WORTH IT!!! Although I will say that I am slightly frustrated that I've come away with more questions than answers...lol. But, I loved this episode, and though I will admit that the secret left me feeling a little underwhelmed it certainly did explain why Dean's been acting the way he was in the past episodes. (For an excellent look at this episode, and some speculation I highly recommend reading Bardicvoice's review of Hunted: http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700016513)
And let me just say that I thought that JA and JP were fabulous in this episode! JA's expressions when Dean was in the car and he saw that Sam was alright and then when he saw Ava in the room were spot on, and the way he examined Sam after he'd been untied, perfect. As for JP, kicking Gordon's butt and then getting him arrested, 'nuff said!!! And count me in with the people who loved (well loved to hate) that Gordon was back and can't wait to see him back again. Same with Ava - can't wait to see how TPTB bring her back!!!

As for SN becoming the "Sam show", I have to say that I agree with GA - regardless of whether Dean has his own individual place in the mytharc separate of Sam, he is Sam's brother; Dean protects Sam; he grounds Sam; he's there to catch Sam when Sam falls and ultimately (I believe) that when the final battle comes he will be standing beside Sam, the two of them shoulder to shoulder facing the dark, just like it has always been. And for the record, I am a Dean-fan. Also, I personally don't think that Dean's character is being in any way lessened, weakened or cheapened to make Sam seem more heroic. Again, I agree with GA that the bravado that we saw from Dean last season was mainly a mask and that after the trauma that he's been put through this season he's is now too tired to keep up that facade and I personally am thrilled that Krikpe & Co. didn't brush this over. (And for a wonderfully insightful look at how Dean has changed this season I would recommend reading Bardicvoice's Supernatural: Dean Winchester: Hymn to Breaking Strain - http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700014770) In the end, I watch the show to see how the characters of both Sam and Dean change and grow and how their relationship with each other changes and grows and, in my opinion, that's what has been show this season and I can't wait to see more!!! (And lastly, for a look on how the brother's perception of each other (particularly Sam's perception) have changed I recommend reading Bardicvoice's Supernatural: Growing Up = Changing Perceptions - http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700016308)

This was a great episode. I'm a total DeanGirl but had no problem with the SamCentric plot. Unlike NE, where Sam was pretty much wall paper while Jo took center stage and Dean played supporting cast, Hunted had the right mixture of introduction of a new character without taking away from either brother. I didn't come off with a 'where was Dean' feeling the way I came off with 'where was Sam' feeling in NE. See, this character revolved around the main characters, in NE the main characters revolved around Jo, which sucked. So, well, what else. I don't think people are worried because this episode was SamCentric, I think people, myself included, are worried because, especially after this episode, Dean seems to be faltering. He has no place in the main mytharc, yes I know, be patient the safe and secure SamGirls say, but you know, it's been over a year and Dean has gone from uber hunter to, well, not sure what, but certainly not the confident and independent hunter he was in season 1. I understand character development and have no problems with Dean trying to work out the issues he's been dealt with. Same now that Sam should be given a turn so we can see his view. That's not what's worrying me. In the end, Sam will always have a place in the story, but I don't see one for Dean as of yet, and as someone mentioned, he doesn't even have his goal for hunting anymore. For now, he's just there to follow Sam wherever Sam wants to go. Wasn't that one of Sam's last lines? Something like, "I'm going to do this with or without you so if you want to watch my back you have to come with me?" Good job on your already insecure brother Sam. What's Dean going to say? No? He promised his dad he'd look out after Sam, he's been given a job to save Sam and now Sam is using this to manipulate his brother? I found that, along with just ditching Dean, after all they've been through, pretty cold on Sam's part. Yeah I get it Sam was mad, and may have had a right to, but hey, both the brothers almost lost each other numerous times, it would be nice for Sam to remember just how tenuous their lives are and give Dean a break.

***For all of S2, Sam has been the more emotionally mature and rational brother. He's been by Dean's side while Dean works out a lot of issues regarding John, hunting, etc... All of the sudden, he just takes off, without even telling his brother, and also knowing what sort of emotional state his brother is in. I completely understood why Sam was angry--I would have been cool if he hd decked Dean--but I didn't expect him to pull a stunt that nearly resulted in getting them both killed. This move is completely inconsistent with all of Sam's charaterization, and frankly, it's a pretty selfish and childish move. ****

In other words, Sam isn't perfect. The kid freaked. I love Sam, but he can be selfish. That's been established. There are a great many good reasons that many viewers loved this episode; Sam's perfectly human reaction was one of them. He didn't want to stay and fight with Dean. He felt he had to *do* something; he was angry, and Dean was putting on the pressure for them to lay low because he was so scared. Sam's selfishness made the episode seem more legit to me. He was selfish, childish, and yet completely in character for someone very young who'd just been told that his father believed he might have to be murdered by his big brother some day. Can you say you wouldn't freak out? I can't explain it any better than that. Your mileage may vary, of course.

I feel the plotting has been done well, but I have no problem with someone thinking otherwise. However, I must stick up for the characterization. If there's one thing at which these writers excel--it's the characterization of Sam and Dean. They're allowed to change, grow, mature, hurt each other, freak out when it's plausible that they'd freak out, and be inconsistent when they've had a shock.

This episode was pretty "meh" for me.

It was a good set-up episode: Sam and Dean are finally going to figure out what's going on; there's a war between good and evil coming; other hunters will be after Sam. I was happy to see Ellen bury the hatchet with the Winchester brothers. Also, happy to see the return of Gordon--the character's not relaly well written, but the actor does a good job with the material he's given. He also plays off Ackles' Dean well. There were nice little moments; I especially liked the yellow-eyed montage Sam finds on the back of the closet wall--total ring-ripoff but it sent a shiver down my spine.

I actually didn't mind the secret, although my initial reaction was, "Hunh, that's it?" If you go back to the episodes earlier in the season, Ackles certainly plays Dean as if that's the big secret John told him. It makes Dean's reaction to Sam's being infected in "Croatoan" ring even truer because it's exactly as he feared--Sam's going to go evil and Dean's going to have to put him down.

What ruined the episode for me was the characterization. When you have only two leads for your entire show, the characterization needs to be strong and consistent or else you will lose your audience quickly.

For all of S2, Sam has been the more emotionally mature and rational brother. He's been by Dean's side while Dean works out a lot of issues regarding John, hunting, etc.. All of the sudden, he just takes off, without even telling his brother, and also knowing what sort of emotional state his brother is in. I completely understood why Sam was angry--I would have been cool if he hd decked Dean--but I didn't expect him to pull a stunt that nearly resulted in getting them both killed. This move is completely inconsistent with all of Sam's charaterization, and frankly, it's a pretty selfish and childish move.

Dean's characterization was more consistent with what we've seen in the second season. I am happy that the writers didn't just blow off the emotional repercussions of John's death, but, I have to say, I am looking forward to Dean dragging himself out of the rut now that he's gotten the big secret out of the way. He came off as weak in this episode, his entire existence dependent on Sam. And he was completely ineffectual as a hunter. When he got captured, I rolled my eyes and thought, "Kripke, we all know that Sam is a badass. You don't need to emasculate Dean in order to make Sam seem stronger!"

Also, the acting wasn't quite as good as I hoped it would be. Both Ackles and Padalecki fell flat in a lot of the scenes, the delivery was forced. They both have done such a solid job this season--at times an exceptional job--that I was dissapointed with what I saw.

I've got to say, while the promise of a series-long arc is one of the reasons I finally decided to start regularly watching "Supernatural," I haven't been very impressed with them. The writing is sloppy and the characterization is sometimes shot to hell. Two of the three mytharc episodes this season, "Simon Said" and "Hunted" had these two problems. I'm a bit disappointed by Raelle Tucker's writing, especially when comparing "Hunted" to "Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things." Her characterization of Sam and Dean was spot-on in "Children" and it also packed one hell of an emotional punch.

Before anyone accuses me of having problems with the episode because it was Sam-centric, let me say, that if Dean had the powers and was written as sloppily as Sam was this episode, I would be equally as annoyed and as vocal. I like Sam a whole heck of a lot--without Sam, there is no show. I have a problem with how he is being characterized in these episodes. Instead of allowing Sam to make story/plot choices true to his character, Sam's character has been twisted out of shape to adhere to a set story. It makes for far less compelling viewing.

All that being said, I still love this show. I'm pretty invested in it at this point, given that it's the only show that's really been able to capture my attention this year. I think "Supernatural" has tons of potential.

I think it's great to read/hear different opinions regarding the show, and this episode in particular because it is such a pivotal point in season 2 and the entire series (hopefully it will be more than only 2 seasons). There are a lot of good reasons that a lot of viewers were displeased with this episode. The show's creators should take these opinions into account; the fans are passionate about the show and are only trying to help make it better.

Kelsey, honey, here is the URL for the article. It was a Q&A Kripke did with eonline. Man's a tease. Alas, I don't believe that the network will allow full frontal nudity for Jared as he says.

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/blog/index.jsp?uuid=d1d0f010-b307-4eb2-bfa7-ceb2acbef139

Hey, GA. Do you (or anyone else) happen to have the link to that interview you were talking about? Sounds really cool and I can't find it anywhere.

Also, I thought this episode was absolutely amazing! I loved it. I am a little worried about the rivalry between Sam and Dean fans, though, especially since it seems to be increasing lately. Dean is quite possibly my all-time favorite tv character, but hey, Sammy's an *extremely* close second, and I definitely don't begrudge an episode full of JP. Like Sarah said, lets try to prevent a Chloe/Lois thing from happening here.

JA and JP have brought so much to this show; they ARE the characters they play, and I think they do a fabulous job with their characters. Also, I have to say that I love Kripke. I mean, seriously, can you name any other producer that listens to his fans the way he does? Not feeling the whole Jo thing? No problem. Let's just say she ran away from home. Kripke, I love you, you're amazing, stay awesome.

How amazing does next week's episode look? Can't wait!

Lola, it's always been Sam who was going to be the focus of the mytharc. That's the way it was set up. Nothing has changed on that score. How has Dean's relevance been removed? Because Dean's having self doubt and having a hard time emotionally? Because he's doubting hunting. It makes *sense* that he's full of doubt and scared after what's happened. That's called character development. It's called breaking from basic WB formula. Dean will get his mojo back eventually, and please don't tell me you'd be even slightly concerned were it Dean that had the powers and Sam was the "supporting player." Dean will have a part in the mytharc. Kripke said so. There's a much bigger reveal coming at the end of this season (per Kripke, last TV Guide interview) that makes this one look like nothing. Why doesn't anybody have any patience? Sam's been the focus of exactly one episode, and now the sky's fallig. Dean's only been the emotional focus the entire first half of the season. His self doubt and grief will play into what happens later. Who cares if he isn't an active part of the mytharc? Why is that so important? It's petty jealousy. The mytharc is only part of the show. The show isn't the mytharc. Dean's not going to have psychic powers. He'll have to settle for merely being the savior, protector, and inspiration for Sam the hero to keep going *at the very least.* Being the inspiration for a hero....good heavens how unimportant could Dean be? It all boils down to that silly competition mentality between (some) Dean and Sam fans. I'm sick of it, because most of them wouldn't care if Sam played second fiddle to Dean. It *is* chidish. It's impatient and it's childish.

Dean's bravado last season was a mask. Dean wasn't really the Dean we saw. He was a muddle of insecurities carefully hidden; Dean's too tired to keep the mask on anymore after every terrible thing that's happened to him. John's death devastated him. Carrying the secret about Sam has worn him out. He's had it. I LOVE that. I love that the writers are going there. I love that they're shaking things up. It gives the show maturity and depth. Were Dean to remain that flippant, gung ho hunter we met early in season one, the series would eventually suffer for it. The growth in character (of both Dean and a newly take charge Sam) is what's allowing SN to survive.

I loved the show....the chemistry between Ava and Sam was perfect (what a match). Although the show didn't really live up to it's expectations it was well worth the wait. Glad to see that Jared/Sam is now being more of a centrepoint for the show (previous episodes sometimes revolved around Dean). Way to go Sam!!

Wanting both characters to have relevance to the main myth arc in their own right is not a sign that someone needs to grow up. Not everyone is going to to be satisfied with the way every aspect of this story is being presented and they have every right to convey their qualms without being accused of being childish. Also, it's perfectly alright to prefer one character over the other. Not everyone has to like everything and everyone equally. It's a tv show. You watch for your own reasons and like what you like. There's no right or wrong there. TV shows are a personal experience. So, if someone has a problem with this or that, who is anyone else to say that they're wrong for feeling that way?

All that said, Sam is firmly entrenched in the main mythology. He IS the main mythology. Dean is, in it by extension. He's always been in it by extension but at least in season 1, he had his own purpose by wanting to save lives. They've pretty much taken away that purpose this season and thus have removed a big part of the character. So far this season he was gung ho to hunt, not for the saving part but for the killing part and the past two episodes he's been saying he's tired and doesn't want to hunt at all. Which, I understand is the point. He's a mere shell of who he was due to the loss of his dad and due to this huge burden that was placed on him but, the thing is, when a character doesn't have a clear relevance to the main mythology in his own right, you really feel it when they then remove a very strong part of who that person is. That seems to be the problem that a lot have had with the way Dean is being presented right now. Some would prefer that Dean have a relevance to the main myth arc that is free and clear of Sam. Otherwise, he's pretty much just a supporting player (I'm talking main mythology here. Not the show itself).

i loved it!! though not a surprise since i love every supernatural episode but for the first time, i thought there was a girl that had actual chemistry with Sam!!! All the girls of supernatural have been...just..stupid (i am so articulate) but Ava, she was so cute, and funny. She is perfect for Sam. I hope the producers bring her back!!!

I loved this episode. The secret was great, without giving it all away at once. I can’t think of one thing bad about this episode, I think it was a really great way to come back. I disagree with people who hate the way the story lines and the characters are going they can’t do the same thing every single week, things gotta change. I love the way it’s going! As for the whole Sam vs. Dean thing… please grow up! Why do that? There brothers facing this thing together. I think its dumb to get a competition going against the two brothers online… why ruin a good thing?

I think the show doing GREAT!

Newer viewer here. This show's not bad but it ain't great either. The horror concept is cool but the main story is not that original and the lead character, Sam, is not that interesting. Nor is it very well acted. I find myself drawn to Dean and wish he'd get more importance in the main story, rather than being dragged along by extension to Sam's "destiny".

Oh, and that big secret? Lame. I haven't even been watching this show that long and was able to guess that.

Loved this episode. Can't believe someone is ready to stop watching. I'm glued to this show.

Props to Kripke for revealing only a small portion of the secret, which greatly teases the fans and makes this show more intriguing than it already is.

Ava - liked the character and can't wait to find out what really happened to her.

Ellen - I believe she knows more than the brothers think.

Ash - loved that Sam called him out on how quick he obtained the names of those like Sam. Seems Ash already had that list handy. Hmmm....

Glad they wrote Jo out of this one. May this useless boring character be forgotten.

Gordon - WHO DOESN'T LOVE THIS PSYCHO?!!!!! So, you think his unknown "roadhouse connection" will bail him out?

Dean: tied to a chair by a lunatic, squirming while awaiting his baby bro's fate. Wasn't this done last year in the Benders? Doesn't matter, love the character and the manner in which JA plays him. Looking forward to seeing what lengths this character will go to when Sam's life and humanity are truly in danger.

Sam - glad to see JP finally got to carry an episode this season. "Anonymous" needs to get a grip. This show has not been the "Sam" show. For one episode, Sam ditched Dean so he could get some answers. It became clear last year that Sam is stubborn and not the most obedient person.

Final note: In this episode, I love how one minor thing is revealed in the beginning and by the end there are a sleu of new questions.

The episode was awesome. Ava was a Fresh new chaaracter and I loved her she helped Sam out alot but then what happen in the end did Ava kill her fiancee or did the demon get to her and her do it. Who knows we'll find soon right.

Dean you got to hand it to him. Wanting to take care of Sam. Getting all worried about him after he left for Indiana. How could Sam let Dean worry about him so much. Oh well family will do that to you.

What's with Gordon though kidnapping Dean isn't that a bit low.

Poor Dean he is shown as a normal human beign for once. even if it is him being kidnapped but still poor dean.

Sam- I think Sam really grew into his shoes in this episode. I mean he really was in a hole but he got through it showing his brother that even though he wasn't with Dean he could still take care of himself because of everything Dean has taught him. Sam really deserved the spot light in this episode.

Ok, Mab, I'll admit that I may have let me John Hate get out of hand. John has always bugged me -- I hate that he treated his sons like soldiers instead of people, and I hate that when he made those sons soldiers, he never trusted them enough to give them all the information they might need. But I still stand by my contention that telling Dean he may have to kill Sam without telling him why or how was a horrible thing to do. So he's maybe not the worst father ever, but he sure won't be getting any parenting awards anytime soon.

And yes, I believe Dean when he said that was all John told him. He only whispered a couple of sentences in Dean's ear before he went off to deal with the Demon, so he couldn't have told him much more.

As for what John could have done differently - yes, Bev, revealing potential doom and destruction while pouring the corn pops would probably not be the best way to deal with the situation either. But it sounded like John only recently figured out the demon's plan. His kids are adults now, and they deserve to know the truth. He kept that from them, either because he couldn't deal with telling them, or he didn't trust them with the information, or he figured he'd be able to take care of things himself. But right before he went off to die, he knew he wouldn't be able to take care of it himself, and he still didn't share all he knew. At the same time, he put a tremendous burden on Dean's shoulders without telling him why. That, in my opinion, sucks.

But sure, I'll cop to the fact that John has always bugged me, and others have different opinions of him -- though I can't imagine why :-)

As for this becoming The Sam Show -- I'm not getting that vibe yet. Dean is an integral part of the Brothers Winchester -- each of the brothers are powerful/have skills and talents, but they add up to more than just a sum of their parts when they're together. I'm interested to see where this goes.

As for the Dean fans vs. Sam fans -- can't we all just get along? Please oh please don't let this turn into a Chloe/Lois scrum.

That said, this board is for all of us to share our opinions on the show. Make your arguments, but don't take it personally if some people don't disagree -- just like I'm not taking it personally that Mab and Bev aren't bowing to my obvious brilliance :-). (Sob!)

For crying out loud, one episode dwells on Sam after a half season spent on Dean and all of a sudden it's "OH MY GOD, IT'S THE SAM SHOW!! I'M LEAVING!!" Why do I get the feeling that if Dean were the one with the psychic abilities and Sam was in the background, the complainers would have no problem with that whatsoever?

What is this childish Sam vs. Dean competition mentality that I see developing in (some) fans? It's bloody annoying is what it is. If it isn't all Dean, all the time, you don't like it. Dean can't have any insecurities, and God forbid that Sam is the focus of attention for a little while. That's so childish. Supernatural was great fun last season, but it's better now because the characters are changing and are allowed to develop. It's not like Dean won't eventually get his hunting mojo back anyway.

The episode was great. I enjoyed it very much. I like seeing Sam come into his own. Why does Sam being strong reflect badly on Dean? I think it's a credit to both characters. Sam's healthy because he had Dean to rely on.

dont you think its kind of weird that Ava was like sam and now shes a demond? i wonder if the same will happen to sam or if they can keep it from happening

I wonder what you would have had John do differently? Did he not do his damndest to keep Sam and Dean OUT of the demon's way... HOW many times did he warn them to stop looking for him?...did he not do everything in his power to protect the boys... How could he have handled it differently...
"Hey Dean..got something to tell you there kid..now that you're 10 (18? 22?). I think I should tell you that there's a good chance that your little brother, who you adore, could turn out to be evil, and some day you might have to kill him. Milk or Juice?" OR..
"Yo...Sammy...I think, as your dad, I need to tell you that you may turn out to be one of the most powerful soldiers of the scum-sucking demon that killed your Mom. But don't worry about it, because if you start to turn evil Dean will just kill you! Wanna go fishing?" Yeah.
LOVED AVA! Loved her to bits!!! Funny as all get out! THIS would be a good girl friend for Sam!
And no the big reveal was no surprise, but neither do I think that's all of it. Kripke is too good at pulling our collective chains for me to trust that that's IT!
Bet Gordon will be back too.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

The shows awesome. Kripke you're doing a great job!

From anonymous
"After "Haunted" it's become clear to me that Supernatural is, in fact, All-About-Sam. One man's destiny. One man's journey. Oh yeah and he has a brother.

In order to make people care about the Super-Special-Chosen-One, Kripke has systematically taken everything I loved about Dean and given it to Sam. Sure he had to kill off Daddy Winchester to do it, but hey it was worth it right? Because now Sam has stepped up to the plate and become the hero he was always meant to be. He wants to find himself and along the way, save as many innocent people as he can because that's what dear old Dad would want. Just to add a bit of extra shine to his halo, he makes sure that big brother Dean continues to live up to Sam's high moral standards. He also think Dean can protect him, but he doesn't mind if he tags along to watch his back."

Ok, I can agree with this. I too have my fears that this show is going to turn into the SuperSammy and the SuperChildren show and Dean will be sidelined. I'm not the only one that has this fear and am hoping that Mr. Kripke is not goint to leave Dean in the dust in his effort to make Sam the Hero of the Show. I too have signed on for the show to be about The Brothers Winchester and for Dean to be by Sam's side as an equal, not a sidekick. So Mr. Kripke, if you are reading this, know well that there are those of us who are worrying about Dean losing his place so that Sam and the Children can have theirs. That would so totally suck.

Loved this episode and I do love Gordon. I'm betting on him breaking out of jail and we'll be meeting this great character again. I wasn't greatly surprised by the secret but was ecstatic that it wasn't something so droll as, "Sam is the demon spawn". Thank you Mr. Kripke for not taking that route. But, yeah, poor Dean, one more burden on an already heavy load he has to carry.
I did notice how much Gordon seems to like Dean, heck, maybe he sees something in Dean that reminds him of himself? or someone from his past? That would be interesting.
I liked Ava. I think she would make a great recurring character and I can say, I did not miss Jo and hope she's hunting in Europe somewhere and won't be seen for the next few years.

As for anonymous who is done with this show, too bad. The show is awesome but I guess to some people growth and development isn't what they are seeking. I love the way the characters are growing, developing and changing so they are not two dimensional characters doing the same thing week after week with the same MO and yada yada. I love that it's changed, grown and really, what is there not to love?

I think the secret was good just we all knew so much about the show through digging around that to the avid supernatural lover it wasn't a surprise. My husband loved it... he doesn't look at spoilers and refuses to let me talk about them! haha

The episode itself was wonderful!

And it is not the Sam show! The first half of the season dwelled so much on Dean and his inner struggles. Yes, this episode dwelled on Sam and his abilities but hey they aren't going to go away you know?

Loved the brother interaction! Made me go all gooey inside!

I thought it was a great episode. I think Sam is coming into his own. It's about time. Dean looked exceptionally fine. Maybe as a result of getting rid of that secret. Loved Ava. Would like to see her back. Gordon was great. Hope he's able to break out of jail along the way. I am happy to see Supernatural back. Hope they keep those promos coming. It kinda perks me up during the week while I'm counting down to Thursday.

Omg..................I Love This Show Soooooooo Much Its Soooooooo Good And I Think That the song one x by three days Grace is the perfect song for supernatrel well have ti go byeybe

Jesus, Sarah, get a grip on your John-hate. As I'm sure you're aware, we as the audience didn't hear what John said. Do we know that Dean told Sam everything? As you pointed out, there wasn't a big reveal yet. Perhaps it's being saved for later?

Yeah so I'm pretty much done with this show.

It's pretty clear after this latest episode that Supernatural is not the show I fell in love with last year. You know that show about two hot brothers on the road kicking supernatural ass together while they find their Dad and figure out what killed their Mom. Those two brothers were awesome. You had the one guy who loved the job, relished helping people despite never getting any kind of real credit and just made the best of a pretty difficult life because he thought the cause was worth it in the end. You also had his little brother, who while reluctant to be part of the hunting lifestyle, had his own very valid reasons for being on the road with but continued to yearn for his long-lost normal life. Yin and Yang. The two balanced each other out. Where one was weak, the other had strength and vice versa.

But apparently that's not the show I've been watching all this time.

After "Haunted" it's become clear to me that Supernatural is, in fact, All-About-Sam. One man's destiny. One man's journey. Oh yeah and he has a brother.

In order to make people care about the Super-Special-Chosen-One, Kripke has systematically taken everything I loved about Dean and given it to Sam. Sure he had to kill off Daddy Winchester to do it, but hey it was worth it right? Because now Sam has stepped up to the plate and become the hero he was always meant to be. He wants to find himself and along the way, save as many innocent people as he can because that's what dear old Dad would want. Just to add a bit of extra shine to his halo, he makes sure that big brother Dean continues to live up to Sam's high moral standards. He also think Dean can protect him, but he doesn't mind if he tags along to watch his back.

So where are we now? "Haunted" gave us an impotent, frightened, practically snivelling Dean Winchester who has nothing left but to follow Sam like a faithful puppy while his brother goes off to discover his oh so important and possibly evil destiny. Sorry but that show doesn't interest me in the slightest.

As much as I love Ackles and how hard he has worked to elevate Dean beyond the crap writing, I just can't watch this anymore. It's painful and I need to disengage. I've been disappointed too many times by various other shows to let myself believe that at this point Supernatural will tell the story I thought I had signed on for.

So thanks but no thanks Mr. Kripke. Maybe I'll catch the rest of the season when it comes out on DVD, but for now I'm done.

the big secret is kinda a stupid idea.I mean don't get me wrong,it's a great story line.But it's not that great.

Yeah, the secret wasn't exactly a secret because of the way Ackles has handled the portrayal of Dean so far this season, which is awesome, because it was like you could read the character's mind. Looking back, I solidly knew what the secret was in Bloodlust, with the look Dean gave Gordon when he said he'd killed his own sister.

I am *EXTREMELY* relieved they didn't do a "The Demon's your real father" thing. I was braced for it, ready to grit my teeth and accept whatever came, so it was a real relief that that wasn't what it was.

As to the secret itself and whether John knew more, of course he did. He was just completely and absolutely John right to the very end. Tell your good soldier son his orders and *nothing* more. Because John is an ass, and Kripke is the worst tease ever, and if it was any other way, we'd be living in a different universe.

Also Ava kicks ass. Bring her back, evil, not evil, whatever. She's AWESOME! And Gordon's source is totally Jo!! Whether she's deliberately selling out Sam to hurt the Winchesters out of a screwed up sense of revenge or just an unwitting dupe of Gordon doesn't even matter.

Andy needs to return too. Hopefully not evil, or if so, redeemably evil. He's just so darn sweet!

Awesome episode, absolutely fantastic! Well done!

one word...awesome! i really loved this episode of supernatural, it may be my favorite one after all. thank goodness for Jo's absence from the show, may they continue to keep it that way. the "secret" wasnt really a "secret", i mean, if you couldnt figure it out, your a retard, but overall it was a pretty good episode...

Loved the eppy!! It was awesome! I still think Eric has something up his sleeve.
Jensen and Jared were awesome! And I was so happy that Gordan was back..well.....u know like in an evil way.......

Good to see that new eppys are back!

Yeah, the secret was pretty lame.

As for Ava, she'll be back.

Pretty good ep. Although, I really missed Dean in that first half.

I absolutely loved this episode. From Dean's "You sly dog," to Dean beating the crap out of Gordon, to Sammy busting in and saving the day.

Is it weird to say we were glad to see Gordon again? Sure, he's a murdering sociopath, but he's damn compelling to watch.
I could not agree more. I told my friend I could not wait for the return of Gordon, and she looked at me like I had five heads. Sure, he's totally messed up, but he's a great guest star.

Oh, also, am I the only one who thinks Sammy was being a bit unfair to Dean about the secret? I mean really, yeah, he probably could have told Sam the secret sooner, but he was just trying to protect him. Plus, was Sam looking at the same person as I was? Cuz I saw a guy who rarely lets down his guard around Sam basically fall apart at the thought of killing his little brother.

One final thing...THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO HUGGING!!! When Sam untied Dean and Dean grabbed him, I sooo thought we were finally going to see them hug, but no. WE WERE ROBBED, I TELL YA, ROBBED!!

Anyway, next week looks amazing and supremely creepy. Can't wait for it!

the Secret:

Wow!! I am so glad I am not the only one who felt like John didn't tell Dean everything.

Or.. maybe Dean knows more than he is letting on!

Ava:

LOVED her! She has to come back!! She can't be dead! And if she is possessed, the boys have to save her!!

Gordon:

He should die. I really thought Sam was going to kill him.

Sam and Dean:

Loved them! Loved the part where Dean checks out Sam's wounds and get's pissed off and wants to kill Gordon.

Sam didn't kill Gordon. I believe he is goign to kill a human. I thought it would of been Gordon but I was wrong. But let's face it. When that time comes, it's going to be some damn good drama!!

To sum it all up, I loved this episode and I am so glad Supernatural is back!! It looks like we are all in for a ride!!

Kripke got us good. It's nothing fans haven't speculated about for ages now. But from this episode, the second half of the season looks to be a wonderful ride.

Hallelujah for the absence of Jo. May she die horribly offscreen, so that Ellen can mourn accordingly and bond more with the Winchesters.

Also, Kripke - you get rid of the girl we like? Sheesh. Bring Ava Back!

Gordon is psycho. Gordon is sooo breaking out of jail and coming for Sammy as soon as he can. Can't wait!

And the Winchesters are back. About time!!!

I loved the episode. Ava is cool I like Sarah better. I think the kids like Sam are the 7 protectors of the 7 gates of hell. The CW made the promo that gave away the secret.

I really liked Ava, will we see her again? Does anyone know of any interviews?

GREAT EPISODE!!! Where the hell is Jo??? I miss her. I'm so scaredfor Sam I hope he does not feel guilty over Ava. What was her deal? Is she dead, evil,or kiddnapped? Can't wait till next episosde!! BRing JO BACK!!

Oh, I loved the eppy:) We fans, have been waiting soooo long! Yep, as a regular forum/board-reader, I think we've already got the "BIG" secret... Well, the Winchesters are one big sc**d up family...We still love John though, we want him back, Master Kripke! At least to tell us the "real" secret:)
Ava was great, um, I think some of us had already created the SAVA ship(Sam/Ava)...oh, and based on the latest e!online interview, it might just happen:)
Dean was awesome as always, but this time I simply Jared! Alone, at the Roadhouse, with Ava, the brickering...amazing! And we still love cliffhanger endings...
Poor Scoot, I would have loved to see him actually use his ability:) Oh, and thank god, no Jo...Ellen was good, Ash seemed a little off and only 4 results? Come on people...
Well, the show is back!!!
Adios

Yeah, the Big Secret was kinda Not Big Secret since pretty much EVERYONE figured out (thanks muchly for the over-revealing previews). Still, how good was that scene? Man, nearly had me in tears. Team Ackles 4eva. Now I can't wait for next week.