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Hidden Palms: Kevin Williamson Speaks -- And He Wants More Marketing

Hidden PalmsCreator Kevin Williamson talked to The Desert Sun (a Palm Springs newspaper). Interesting tidbit: he'd wanted the soapy drama to be called "Palm Springs," but The CW changed that.

Williamson doesn't sound thrilled about how the network's promoting his show: "I don't think this show is marketed to the extent it could have been. I feel like we're getting the ratings for the amount of marketing they're putting into us."

What do you guys think? Hidden Palms fans, we know you're out there. Do you think the show should've been promoted more? Would it have done better with a fall premiere? Or would it have helped to air the show after an established hit like OTH? Tell us what you think!

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I really enjoyed the show - and I want to be able to buy it on DVD with the other 5 unaired episodes.. Are you listening Lionsgate?

I understand you will not bring the show back - but why not put it on DVD.

BRING BACK VERONICA MARS!!!!!!!!!!

Thats funny, I've watched the show and found nothing interesting or good about it. CW this time you actually promoted hidden palms. I saw the commercials for it 100 times a day, it was so over promoted that it got to the point of me being annoyed. If it didn't earn fans by that much promos then cancelling it is a great idea. Sorry to HP fans, but the show just wasn't good enough. There are other amazing shows that didn't deserve to be cancelled. So get over it and CW don't feel bad for canceling it, that much promos should of gotten so many fans. As for the creater of HP, GET OVER IT! Your show had all the publicity a show can get and even more...

I saw so many promotions for this show that it isn't even funny. So i dont think the cw failed to promote this show because THEY HAVE PROMOTED SHOWS WAY WORST.To be specific VERONICA MARS. Now theres a show that was never promoted. Most people dont even now what it is. Why? Because CW sucked at promoting it.

I LOVE HIDDEN PALMS! omg. this show is seriously my favorite show ever. every episode, something happens that leaves you in shock and yearning for the next episode cause you cant handle waiting to see what happens. i love it so much. some people hate the show with rich kids because they think they are stupid and brag, but really johnny and greta are so intelligent. i love how they talk and how they think. they have a great vocabulary. i just love this show and i will die if it doesnt come back for a second season.

So I personally am in love with this show...you just don't know whats going to happen next unlike one tree hill and the oc etc. (which i was a die hard fan as well) but this show was different it kept you guessing. And because it was aired so late in the year no one watched it because ,people are outside enjoying the weather. If it would have started in the fall then for sure it would have been a hit. One of those shows where u go to school and everyone is like i watched this crazy show called hidden palms and everyone ends up watching it and its a hit! I had no clue about it but i watched all the episodes and now im just thinking what now?! Thats it?! I WANT MORE!

I LOVE HIDDEN PALMS.
I actually had no idea what it was until i was bored one night on The CW website. I fell in love after the first episode...just dying to know what happen and who was with who and who killed eddie. i stayed up for 5 hours watching all the episodes that were on so far and every week after that i got to watch the last 2! i need to know what happens next season!

Hidden Palms is one of the best shows I have ever seen. I feel that it is better than the O.C. and it had just begun. I am sad for Williams because his show was not properly marketed at all! Dawsons Creek was amazing and this show is even better. Keep the show going and put some effort into it.

Good show, good cast that you all at the CW didn't give a chance. Most people hadn't even heard of the show that I talked to. I just happened to watch the promos & started watching. I have to admit your fall shows are looking lam. I'm a big Smallville and Supernatural fan and I did like Hidden Palms and Everwood and Reba. Come one, give Hidden Palms a chance.

I agree with the majority here stating that The CW has put forth little effort in promoting their shows and the network itself in general. If you don't put money into marketing and advertising and bet all hope that word of mouth will promote your shows, sorry, it is a disaster waiting to happen.
I didn't know that 7th Heaven was resurrected last season until after the season premier had already aired. Missing that episode basically ruined the whole season for me. I am soured completely on The CW for good now. With the cancellation of Everwood, Gilmore Girls, and now Hidden Palms, it can now sulk off into obscurity and disappear forever. I won't miss it a single moment. There are literally hundreds of channels to watch on satellite and cable which translates into thousands of shows ready and waiting to be watched and grab up market share and I am sure other networks have put money into market research and demographic studies to see where they can get the best bang for their netword dollars.

ok what? Hidden Palms is being cancelled!!?? one day this summer i was bored and just decided to go to the CW website because i heard that there was a Gossip Girl show coming out. while i was searching the site, i saw that you could watch full episodes of shows. Hidden Palms being one of them. I started watching and just couldn't stop! I kept coming back to the site until I had watched every episode. I kept wondering why i had never heard of the show and then I remembered that i had...with THE WORST COMMERCIAL FOR A SHOW I HAD EVER SEEN! All the ad was was a girl crying in the rain for about 30 seconds. thats it. why would anyone watch that show after seeing that?! Get someone else to advertise, run the first season again in the FALL not the summer, and you will have people begging for more...like me! So make a second season. it is not the show's fault it had horrible air time and promotion

hello,

i think that the CW could have done some things different. The BIGGEST mistake they made was airing Hidden Palms in the Summer! Hidden Palms could have become a HUGE Success, bigger then "The O.C" i believe...it was a New, Fresh...had a GREAT idea for the base of the show. I believe ALOT of people would have caught on & started watching. I mean, look at the people who actually DO watch it now...they absolutley Love it. How could you not? The Cast is an Amazing group, people can relate to.
I think instead of putting blame and saying what the CW did wrong, we should be giving Idea's on how to actually keep the show around!
I know everyone whos a Fan now wants it to stay on the air %150.
One idea i have...Play season 1 OVER AGAIN in the Fall...no one is going to mind watching it again. People can't get enough of the show! You'll get 100x more fans then you have now.
I dont know but its a shame to see that show go. It was great while it lasted.

Thanks - Dawn

I did not even watch the first couple Hidden Palm's episodes because all of the commercials I saw for it gave me the impression that the show was just about partying and living the good life, but the show was far from just that. I never saw in the commercial anything to do with the murder mystery, which makes me wonder WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??? That was the whole point of the show: THE MYSTERY.... They should have let the audience know what the show was really about rather than show commercials that didn't do the show justice. Hidden Palms better be back on in the winter.

Hidden palms for sure deserves another season! It is an amazing show and i think if it was in the fall line up for a second season it would do much better. Another reason for it not doing so well was that the CW did a terrible job at promoting it! Give it another chance!

This show was cool. I think uguys should give it a 2 chance. People ddint watch the season finale because its was the 4th and everyone was out doing something and plus its summer put it in the fall and it will get better ratings

PLEASE don't cancel Hidden Palms!!!

PLEASE SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!
I LOVED The O.C And When It Ended I Thought I'd Never Find A Show Like It.
But I Did! I Found Hidden Palms.
It's Suspenseful, Addictive, And Mind Blowing! And I'd Love To See Several Seasons Of It!
So SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!!!

PLEASEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

IT'S SO SUSPENSEFUL AND AMAZING!!!!!
PLEASE DON'T END IT

this show was not promoted well at all it is such bull crap that i have to sit through the oc being cancelled and my repalcement for the oc hidden palms to be cancelled to! is the cw smoking crack?

This show is amazing I would hate to see it go. Please give it another chance.

i would never have known this show existed if i wasnt googling the show Gossip Girl. They are both hosted by the CW and i somehow stumbled upon hidden palms and thought it looked alright. They definately should have promoted it better.

PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH HIDDEN PALMS ITS GETTING MORE POPULAR WITHIN THE WEEKS IT WAS THE 5TH MOST SEARCHED CONTENT ON YAHOO SEARCH ENGINES!

SAVE HIDDEN PALMSSS!!!

PLEASE GIVE HIDDEN PALMS ANOTHER CHANCE YOU WON'T REGRET IT!

PLEASE DO NOT CANCEL HIDDEN PALMS GIVE IT ANOTHER CHANCE!

PLEASE DONT CANCEL HIDDEN PALMS!!!

GIVE IT ANOTHER CHANCE.. MAKE A SECOND SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please dont cancel this show!! It's my favourite show and you can't just end it like that.. the last episode leaves the viewers hanging! PLEASE GIVE HIDDEN PALMS ANOTHER CHANCE MAKE A SECOND SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok.. seriously..
ur crazy if u cancel this show..
the ending left every1 unclear and the ratinge are high.
y would u cancel sumtin thats such a big sucess?
i love the show..
much like i loved the oc and still love one tree hill.
my point is.
everyone loves this show, ur making money.... no reason to cancel it.

I can't believe that Hidden Palms is coming to an end, I and many others are very disappointed. I don't think that it is fair to cancel the show because it had way more potential if it was just given better promotion and a better premiere time such as in the fall. I know for a fact that Hidden Palms would have done WAY better than it did. There may have been low ratings but it premiered in the summer and that isn't very good. I feel that it isn't good to premiere a show in the summer because people are busy going places and doing things. In the summer people go on vacation and go places with friends, family, ect. leaving them with no time to sit at home and watch television. Also people have lives, they aren't going to sit home and watch television when they have opportunities to go out and have fun no matter how good the show.

The ratings were also low because of the marketing. I for one must say that the marketing was PRETTY bad. I mean I have only seen about two commercials for Hidden Palms compared to other shows that haven't even come out yet. I thought you needed to focus more on the shows that were already out and that were having difficulties with the ratings. I am Canadian so I think there should have been more commercials on Canadian channels as well. I thought there should have been more commercials ..not only on the CW channel but other channels as well to let viewers know about the show. I myself found out about the show on the third episode because of the marketing and I couldn't exactly catch up on everything because there are no repeats and tha episodes on the CW website are only for people who reside in the U.S.

I feel that there definately should be a second season not only because I am a fan and just happen to want one, but because the fact that the finale left all the viewers hanging. I felt it was unfair because the fans are now left hanging and wanting to know what happens, there were many questions that were left unanswered such as: Will Johnny ever find out who really killed Eddie?, How will Cliff and Nikki's relationship go?, How will Bob and Karen's relationship go?, and Exactly what did Liza hear Skip and Mrs.Nolan talking about?

Please keep Hidden Palms and give it a fair chance. If you just give it the promotion it needs and never got for the first season and if you give it a better time slot such as in the fall I am sure that you will not be disappointed and that the ratings will be least you have to worry about. I know that Hidden Palms has the potential, please just give it a second chance, don't let the fans down.


SAVE HIDDEN PALMS PLEASSEEEEE!

I think that this is a great show. I wasn't sure how it was going to be because of the the few advertisements, but this show definitely proved it's worth from the start. The acting is great and so is the plot. I love this show. Give it a chance to be a big hit like One Tree Hill and Gilmore Girls. I am also angry that Gilmore Girls was cancelled. Don't cancel an opportunity for a big hit! It looks like there are plenty of people out there who watch it, despite the lack of advertising. Keep Hidden Palms for a second season. It didn't even reach it's potential in 8 episodes!

Hidden Palms is an amazing show please don't cancel it! It has way more potential and you would see that if you gave it better chances like better promotion and if it premiered in the fall!


PLEASE SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!!!

DON'T DO THIS TO ALL THE FANS PLEASE SAVEE HIDDEN PALMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE SAVE HIDDEN PALMSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please don't take the show away it's not fair the promotion was crap! and the show would've done WAYYYYYY better with a fall premiere!

PLEASE GIVE KEVIN WILLIAMSON AND EVERYONE ELSE WITH HIDDEN PALMS ANOTHER CHANCE!!!

MAKE A SECOND SEASONNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please you cant just take the show away like that! You left all the viewers hanging with the finale and that's not fair! Please just make a second season and have more promotions and it will work!!


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MAKE A SECOND SEASON IT WON'T DISAPPOINT YOU!!

Oh my gosh you CANNOT cancel the show especially after the finale!!! It leaves us hanging and you can't just end the show leaving all the viewers hanging that would be a crappy ending. PLEASEEE YOU HAVE TO MAKE A SECOND SEASONN!

I think that since FOX took away the O.C. alot of the fan base tryed desperatley to find something, anything to fill they're teen drama. Many of us luckily found Hidden Palms, it's suspense, thrills, and many twists left us wanting more and more. The actors are all amazing and play their parts soo well that in some cases you're like "Oh wow, I really connect" and some parts you could only imagine what it would be like. There should have been alot more advertising for Hidden Palms, this show is very addictive and just what alot of kids were looking for! My parents even enjoy this show and they're in their early 40's, and they usually don't like the shows that I watch. If they cancel this show then they will probly be really loosing out. This show has alot of potential and already a great fanbase of followers going, as you can tell by the efforts taken by the fansite http://palms.svfan.com . Loosing Hidden Palms would just let many of us Teen Drama fans looking again for another show to fill it. I think after this season, many of us telling our friends and if they had more advertising this show could be the next, better, greater O.C. (If I do recall not many viewers watched season 1 O.C. But in it's middle seasons it was HUGE..) I think that Hidden Palms is amazing, personally my favortie new show right now, and if it does end up cancelled then I would be very upset, as would MANY MANY of it's fans.

The CW got out what it put in to Hidden Palms. The network could not have expected better ratings or more viewership based on the amount of time and money (or lack thereof) it put into the show.

Although Hidden Palms was originally scheduled to be a midseason starter, the network kept delaying its premiere, putting it off until the dreariest viewing time of the tv season: summer.

Along with this unintelligent move to bury Hidden Palms out of sight and out of mind, the CW failed to successfully and persuasively advertise the show. Not one of the previews explained the setting, characters, or plotlines, and certainly did not display the suspense and intrigue with which writer Kevin Williamson riddled the show.

As many of my fellow fans have alluded to, the CW spent more advertising time and money on shows that were already hits or were not set to premiere until the fall. I have seen more ads for Gossip Girl than any other show, along with other future newcomers like the Monday-night comedy Reaper. I hope the CW knows that a Monday comedy schedule is not going to bring in many viewers. Thursday is comedy night. Always has and always will be, despite the CW's gallant efforts to avoid competition with other, more spectacular comedy line-ups like NBC's thursday-night show of The Office and My Name is Earl.

Returning shows such as One Tree Hill and ending shows such as Gilmore Girls have received far more attention by the CW than Hidden Palms as well. Dedicating more advertising to a show that already has a fairly solid fanbase like One Tree Hill is a waste of airtime. Few viewers opt to start watching a show four seasons in, especially if an enticing show like Hidden Palms is beginning during the summer. But few viewers ever knew of the existence of Hidden Palms. The same scenario applies to 7th Heaven and Gilmore Girls, both with series finales this year. Viewers do not tune in for the last episode of a series if they have not been consistently or attentively watching throughout the course of the show. I am not razzing on these other shows, no, for I myself am an avid fan of the regulars and am certain Gossip Girl will have its own merit. Yet the CW should have paid more to Hidden Palms as a plausible hit teen drama, putting in a better effort to promote the show. Writing it off as a failure before the season even started was a poor move by the network and a disappointment to those fans who have happened to catch a glimpse of this worthy show in its minute and neglected existence.

OMG!!! you cant cancel hidden palm! give this show a chance and im sure its gonna be a hit like the oc and one tree hill but dont cancel it after only 8 episode! the shoew just started! continue the season or make an other one during this fall...imagine what it would be like if you continue it..you cant stop a serie whith that kind of final!! i sware give the sow another chance during this fall and its going to bea big succces!!

I think Hidden Palms is one of the best shows on the cw. The cw doesn't give any shows enough time to get more ratings. It gives new shows less than a month then snatches it away. It had very little promoting unlike the new shows that look retarded that are coming. They need to give the show a chance promote it entirely more in all ways, magazines, tv -on other stations etc... They could be doing more instead of just taking the show off.
Please bring the show back!

I think Hidden Palms is one of the best shows on the cw. The cw doesn't give any shows enough time to get more ratings. It gives new shows less than a month then snatches it away. It had very little promoting unlike the new shows that look retarded that are coming. They need to give the show a chance promote it entirely more in all ways, magazines, tv -on other stations etc... They could be doing more instead of just taking the show off.
Please bring the show back!

i cant believe its over... it left me unclear.... why would it end so0 damn fast(a few episodes!! then the finale..on top of that series finale!!??)... i wouldve liked to know how cliff and nikki ended up thru time... what happened with skip, johnny and gretta... and so many other things that could have still been going on!.... i never missed an episode and would leave work early every wednesday just to0 see this show... i never watch any series shows but this one really caught my eye... i loved it!... i kant believe it.. i hope that it comes back for me and all the other fans!!...

Please bring back Hidden Palms. The CW did not give this show the opportunity it deserves. If Hidden Palms isn't given another chance, I won't be tuning into the CW at all anymore.

Don't cancel Hidden Palms . This show is amazing, and the viewers are left in suspense after last night's episode .

I admit that I was an OC addict . When that ended I was crushed , so , when Hidden Palms came on, I was overwhelmed. I've always hated One Tree Hill, and thought that it should have been canceled way before the OC . But it didn't , so I was disappointed. Hidden Palms was kind of like a bounce back for me, it was exciting, suspenseful and very, very well written . I thought that this show could replace my addiction to the OC. And it did, for a very short time .

I'm not sure who to blame , I blame the CW for being so stabber about this, first of all . Second, I blame the time of year it came on, who watched TV in the summer !? Seriously , the show is amazing , it would have been a huge hit , if it was put on in the fall when people are actually watching TV, after a long day at school , or work . It's nice to watch your favorite show .

The ratings were bad because of the time of year , and I admit , the promotion itself was fairly poor . Don't take favorites when it come to promotion , if the show is on it's 4th season , and it's already half way through , how many people do you really think are going to watch the show ? About as many as have been watching it before . You don't tune in after half the season , it's absurd .

Did you even look at the word promotion . Such as .. before the motion . Hmm, if I was interested in finding a show to watch, I would watch for commercials, on TV , and if there is no commercial, I'm not going to watch the show ! This is all logic , and it pains me to say I’m appalled at the immaturity of this station . Never thought I’d say that , but I have and I’ll say much more if I have to .

I'm 15 I have an extremely large opinion, larger than many of you can grasp, I’m sure. Let this show stay, or risk losing them as viewers for the rest of your shows , it's your choice . Make a good one .

i think it was a great show. i think you guys did great. i wouldnt have cared what the title was. im just mad there isnt another season i think you should work on making anothere season. i know its gnna be worth it.perhaps you could've promoted it more. but i loved those comercials you guys made, they were creepy and fun. PLEASE BRING IT BACK!./. ths how i mean

What I don't understand is how the CW expects Hidden Palms to do well when there promoting is so low. I have been waiting to see this show since smallvilles last season ended.

What better ways to promote the CW?

1. Take some time into advertising. It would be wonderful to see the CW work on some trailers to get people hyped up about Hidden Palms. Hidden Palms is that awesome show that would be a monster hit if people really knew about it. Maybe try and post commercials for Hidden Palms at the end or beginning or commercial breaks of other hit shows. That's a great way to get people going!

2. Look at palms.svfan.com. The website is phenomonal! The devotion to Hidden Palms is massive. Look away from the fact it doesn't have a heck of a lot of people - think, that could be because of the CW...
Just taking the time to look at their site, and promote, look, promote, look, promote...

3. Give Kevin Williamson and the rest of the crew a chance. A second season would be the bomb! Imagine Hidden Palms in high school. Just think of what could come to Hidden Palms later on!

4. If all else fails, and somehow no second season comes, then please, PLEASE, create a DVD of Hidden Palms. So many people would buy it and you'd be giving yourself a profit.

Consider the show. It's called Hidden Palms. Created by Kevin Williamson. It's got one heck of a lot of potential but isn't being given the chance to do so.

Comeon, the CW, comeon!
KEEP THIS GREAT SHOW!!!!
IT HAS SO MUCH TO GIVE.
1 season of 8 episodes are not enough to see if the show has bummed and next time promote it as much as all other shows

Belive me it will be alot better than that lame alien in america show or the it girl show

HIDDEN PALMS ROCKS!!!!!!

Hidden Palms is my favorite show please don't take it away. All my friends watch it too. It is the only good show that is on in the summer.

Such an amazing show that was practically thrown under a bus. Bad promotion, delaying the start, putting it on in summer, 2 episodes a week to make the end come nearer, finale of the entire thing after 8 episodes on FOURTH OF JULY. If the show didn't do as well as was hoped, it's all because of the network. It's a shame.. RIP hidden palms

NOOO please don't take hidden palms away!!! It's my favourite show ever!!!

you guys cant cancel hidden palms!
i wont be able to live. its bad enough they had to cancel the OC, but not hidden palms. the show like just started and ur gonna end it? thats pretty dumb. its like my fav show now and if u take it off the air ill have nothing to watch. its a really good show and it was getting rly exciting but now im just sad.
PLESE PLEASE PLEASE DONT CANCEL IT! EVERYBODY WATCHS IT BEACAUSE ITS SO GOOD.

The only reason i found out about this show, had been through a couple of my friends who religiously watch the cw (otherwise i would have never found out). I fell in love with the first episode and knew it would be a great series to watch all summer. When i found out that the season finale was a single episode away, let alone the series finale, i was extremely disappointed and knew there must be a mistake. I don't think it was ever given a chance and it would probably have done 10 times better with a little more promotion on other channels. I wish i knew whether or not all these petitions and responses could make a difference, but this is probably the end...
I feel that once a network has ultimately decided on a series finale for a show, it's generally unchangeable, but hopefully for future shows they'll take into consideration more publicity because it clearly seems to be an issue.

Well first of all I really think they should have aired the show in the fall and NOT in the summer.In the summer people go and hang out with friends and go on vacation.. not sit at home and watch t.v. Secondly I have to say that the promotion for this show was extremely crappy ..I didn't watch the first couple episodes because I didn't even know that this show existed. I have only seen like 2 commercials for Hidden Palms and that sucks. And lastly I know they hardly had any commercials but the ones I did see gave everything away. They pretty much showed the whole next episode within those 1 or 2 minutes. I know that a lot of people would have loved this show like I do and I know it has way more potential. So I really think that there should be WAY more commercials for Hidden Palms it should be aired during a better part of the year and the commercials/trailers should be less revealing of the next episode. I would definately absolutely LOVE to see a second season .. please dont let all these Hidden Palms fans down we're really counting on you guys.

just keep the damn show people. we love it.

Wow i cant believe it's actually ending that's pretty dumb theres only been like 8 episodes i think there definately should be a second season. i can't believe your taking the show away .. main reason being the ratings thats dumb because there was like no marketing for the show, i found out by just going through channels looking for something interesting to watch. i mean i really like this show i watched every week. i stayed home when i could have gone out to watch this show and your taking it away. thats really unfair your worried about stupid ratings .. well maybe if you put it in a better slot i mean summer?!?! who puts an amazing new show on during the summer especially if theyre looking for high ratings? that idea was really dumb because during summer everyone is on vacation no one is going to sit at home to watch a t.v. show i know maybe if they really like it they would but you can't stop your life for a t.v. show you people need to get real if you really wanted high ratings you would have had way better marketing and you would have played this show in the fall or you could have at least waited for next year and you would've seen how much better the ratings would have been they would have been through the roof. so i would really like to see a second season and way better marketing if you just give hidden palms a second chance you will see that the least thing you'll have to worry about is the ratings.

I must say I am very disappointed that Hidden Palms is ending.Not only the season but the WHOLE series. I really love this show and I dont understand why it is coming to an end.. I mean the marketing was horrible I found out about this show on the fourth episode because of how bad the marketing is. And I have missed and episode because it's in the summer. This is a horrible slot for such an amazing show it has way more potential and I know that for a fact. During the summer people are busy, they have things to do and places to go. Also many people are on vacation so that makes it hard and I don't think you're going to want to sit inside watching a show while on vacation... I know i wouldn't want to. So please just have some better marketing and change the slot and I am sure you will have way more viewers than any of your other shows.

Ok I think this show had really shitty and I mean REALLY shitty marketing. I didnt even know about this show until the third episode and I only found out because I was bored out of my mind and was flipping through the channels. I aboslutely love this show and I think that A LOT of other people would too. Also I really think this show should be in the fall because during summer no one really gives a crap about t.v. unless they're bored and have nothing to do that day and what are the chances of that day being on a Wednesday. ANNDD in the summer everyone is on vacation or just hanging out all day with friends because that's what you're supposed to do during summer, not sit home and watch t.v. So I suggest that you guys get the show out there through way more commercials and billboards and stuff and put the show on in the fall and that way you'll notice that low ratings will no longer be an issue.

Pleas let there be a second season of hidden palms. I think it is a great show and`I havent missed a single episode yet. I fell that the CW is the only station that can carry a show like Hidden Palms.

I feel let down by the lack of marketing for Hidden Palms. I think that CW has room for vast improvement when it comes to cross-channel marketing. I have watched two shows in the past: America’s Next Top Model and The Search for the next pussy cat doll...both had pretty good advertising. ANT has been around for a while now, so it sort of markets itself. The CW can market their shows on their channel all day long, but if a viewer is not watching their channel to begin with; well then what good is that? I only watched Hidden Palms originally because someone told me that someone from our city was on there. It is in extreme poor taste to run the finally on the fourth of July; that just shows their lack of commitment to the shows success!

There was a bit of over-acting in the first episode, but I feel they have really stepped their game up and it has improved.

I would like to see a second season.

I simply can't believe iT...HIDDEN PALMS is the best SHOW ever....I was absolutely stunned to see it was the series finale...I just can't believe it!I agree with the people who said the cw didn't advertize the show at all....One night I just fell on the series premiere by accident and I automaticly thought it was the best show I had ever watched In my whole fucking life...cw sucks real bad they don't listen to what fans have to say....HEY WAKE UP CW' WITHOUT US' YOU WOULD BE NOTHING....i love the actors, the show, the atmosphere the plot....damn this whole show is a total Succcess don't punish us for your marketing lacks....

I am a really big fan of Hidden Palms. I don't want the show to end. I like the suspense because it leaves me wanting to see more. I count the days until I get to Wednesday because I can't wait to see what happends next on Hidden Palms. So please don't cancel hidden palms because I love it and I know a lot of people out there love this tv show too.

Wow! I never watch this kind of show, but I stumbled onto it and next thing I knew I couldn't wait until the next week to find out more. I have really gotten hooked on this one. Lets see more.
Great acting and writing.

Hidden Palms is the only show that is really a good show, in my opinion. I think that the marketting is the cause for the "low" ratings. I would be greately dissappointed if Hidden Palms would get cancelled.

The CW, in my opinion, has lacked the ability to promote their shows from the second the WB and UPN merged together. If the CW really knew how good of a show Hidden Palms is then maybe they would of done it differently, we will never know. What is becoming apparent is that the CW is trying to push Gossip Girl and Reaper on their new fall lineup but I for one WILL NOT TUNE IN IF HIDDEN PALMS DOES GET CANCELLED.

Hidden Palms should of been on in the fall, this summer slot just sucks for the show not to mention the con that was cooked up by the CW to get this show over and done with. The CW needs to keep this show because it will be a hit soon.

Putting Hidden Palms after an establish series like OTH would be a smart move but the CW isn't that intelligent it seems.

Well, CW it looks like you just lost another viewer if you dont give Hidden Palms the respect it deserves.

Here is some advice: Listen to the fans because the fans are always right. If you don't believe me then maybe this will help the fans are the ratings and without the ratings YOU ARE NOTHING!!!!!

Okay it's the summer and a lot of shows i have watched over the years have mostly come to an end so i have been looking for new shows to get into and on the CW that was definately Hidden Palms. It just hooked me in from the first episode and searching the net i find nothing but people with good things to say about it. I think it has great potental and would be a great series. I know me and people i would know would tune in every week for sure. So I say SAVE Hidden Palms. Bring it back for season 2 do some good promotion and just watch the following start in a big way.

Save Hidden Palms! I LOVE this show.

I watch the CW all the time, but now you canceled Veronica and Gilmore Girls. And now Hidden Palms, you must save it.

You picked the worst time for tv to air it. May and June people are just starting to end school or go on vacations. In the fall it would be a lot more popular. This is my favorite show, it is very addicting.

I just started to feel happy that there was another good show like my favourite-"Veronica Mars", and all of a sudden i read that the CW are going to cancel it. What's up with that. For the first time in my life am i seing something this stupid being done-a show which started only a month ago is already gone. That's weak. The CW started cancelling every good show which was on, i just can't explain it:( So please think about it- give"Hidden palms" another chance.Otherwise this network is going to loose a lot more fans.

To be honest, The CW doesn't do well when it comes to their promotion. Maybe for America's Next Top Model and The Pussycat Dolls show. Those are their only two possible good, rating shows they have on The CW. It goes to prove that The CW fails when it comes to promotion for sure!

But what I also think Hidden Palms is struggling is because of summer, of course! Everyone's busy when it comes to summer, so it's such a bad idea to air a show during the summer, I mean who the heck would watch it? Of course I will, but it's ridiculous! And what also proves my point is the series finale ending on July 4th! Who would watch an episode during that timing? And everyone knows everyone will be tuning in the fireworks instead of the series finale of Hidden Palms. The definetly, without a doubt, should've aired the episode during the fall. It's not our fault, it's The CW's fault, etc. with the network.

I have never missed an episode of Hidden Palms. What captured my attention was the fact that each character had different layers and in each episode you would see a whole new side of them. The plot is also very good. It's suspenseful and leaves the viewers wanting more (at least that was for me). It probably would have done much better in the Fall season, and if it were promoted longer. I think i heard about it a week or so before it started on the CW.

Hidden Palms is one of the best shows I ever seen in my entire life! I love it! It's amazing! Please dont get rid of Hidden Palms cuz it will never be the same without it on any channel. Why not change to new network like ABC Family cuz that channel pretty much gives out teens shows..u have noticed that, have you?? SO PLEASSSSSSSSSSE SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!!!!!! :(:(:(

Hidden Palms rocks. It needs to have a second season. The CW needs to give it a chance. It has not been on long enough and the cast needs to do interviews and promotion. It's my new favorite show. Thanks for a wonderful show. christin

please please please keep hidden palms going i watch it online all the time and i couldnt believe it was going to be the series finally....im going to cry!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now...i love hidden palms. I think its a really interesting show and its good for teenagers, and it teaches you different things that could happen if you get involved in other peoples affairs. Please dont cancel it!

AHH! you can't cancel hidden palms! its like the only show i ever watch on tv! :(.. and i barely even watch tv, but this caught my eye!.. PLEASE DONT CANCEL IT!!

I think this show would of done a lot better if they showed it in the fall. Because not very many teens and adults watch television during the summer and I think it was very dumb to show it during the summer. Also I think the CW didn't really promote the show they only really promoted the show for a month. They should of promoted it for 3 months like they are doing the fall shows. Many of my friends when I asked them "Did you watch Hidden Palms" most of them didn't even know what i was talking about and they watch the CW network all the time. So CW please just give Hidden Palms another chance and promote it more and this will be the biggest hit!!!!!!!!!!

I watch hidden palms on Tv all the time went it was on. I think the CW network is cancel the best show on TV right now for young people to watch. I think them should give another chance to Hidden palms to do better. If not the CW should get cancel from the been a network on TV.

KEEP HIDDEN PALMS GOING PLEASE!

its become my favorite show this summer.

i am really enjoying it!

SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!

I love this show and all of its characters...especially cliff;)! Please keep it going for another season. Schedule it in the fall when teens have more routine and can keep up with the show. Promote it more and I definitely think it could be a hit!

My only salvation from the devastating loss of Veronica Mars was the inception of Hidden Palms. Well written and acted, this is actually a teen drama for us mystery lovers to sink our teeth into. It just needs a chance. Cancelling now would be in extremely poor form after such a limited amount of episodes, brilliant episodes, were aired. Step it up, CW. SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!!!

Hidden palms has got to the best show this summer. it has a little bit of everything in it. i dont understand why it has to go off air. it is a huge mistake for CW to do this. as you can see there are many upset fans, which just goes to show how many people really enjoyed the show. it is a shame.and i think that the CW should definitly reconsider.

Hidden palms has got to the best show this summer. it has a little bit of everything in it. i dont understand why it has to go off air. it is a huge mistake for CW to do this. as you can see there are many upset fans, which just goes to show how many people really enjoyed the show. it is a shame.and i think that the CW should definitly reconsider.

Please, CW, don't cancel Hidden Palms! It's rare that I find a television show I enjoy as much as I do this one.

Why on earth would they take away such a good show? it finally got really good, and things were looking up. I expected it last more than just a few episodes! This is seriously not fair.

Give it a CHANCE the show is BIGGER AND BETTER than the OC ever will be and it is the BEST show on TV and if the CW decides to cancel one of there BEST shows yet they are just asking to be on the chopping block!!!!!!
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My husband and I are recovering from the OC ax and now we FINALLY found a show that has some staying power. Please keep Hidden Palms going so good shows with good casts stay on the air. Thanks!!!!

you have to keep hidden palms on the air, it is the only thing i looked forward too, i love the show!!!!!

I LOVE THIS SHOW SUCH MYSTERY AND SUSPENSE! ITS REALLY A GREAT SHOW MORE PPL NEED TO GIVE IT A CHANCE CAUSE ITS TWISTS AND TURNS ARE VERY EXCITING! :) GREAT SHOW REALLY WANT A SECOND SEASON!!!!!! PLEASE!

pleasse don't cancel! i haven't been intrested in a sho like this in a long time. you can't just do that to poeple. get them intrested in the characcters, storry and plot and then pull out? LAME

Once again another show not being given a good chance.. no wonder nothing lasts everything is made to just dispose..SAD SAD SAD!!!!! Shame on CW for not working harder to push a good show - with a STELLAR cast!

once again, the CW disappoints. First they chopped the head off Veronica Mars, now Hidden Palms. MY friends and i watch Hidden Palms religiously, and we think it has the potential to be the next O.C or OTH. We need good shows like this, not more sitcoms and reality shows. People want variety.

Bring this show back for a season two and learn from your promotional errors.

THIS SUCKS HIDDEN PALMS IS PRETTY AMAZING WHAT THE HELL IS THE REAPER AND ALIENS IN AMERICA. I MEAN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE FALL I MEAN ITS SUMMER AND THE AGE GROUP ITS FOR IS OUT EVERY NIGHT THEIRS NO TIME FOR T.V. BUT IN THE FALL IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER ITS THAT PERFECT COMBO OF VERONICA MARS AND ONE TREE HILL2 SHOW THAT HAVE DONE WELL FOR THIS NETWORK.I THINK THEY SHOULD TRY IT AGAIN AFTER ONE OF THOSE SHOW COUGH *THE REEPER* IS CANCELLED .

I completely agree with Kevin Williamson - I love this show and it has so much potential. I feel for him because he is a genius and was not at all given a chance. My friends don't even know this show exists; I know about it because I go on the CW website to read OTH stuff and I saw it on there once. I love OTH & HP but The CW is the worst network ever.

The CW could have promoted the show A LOT better and they also should have put it on after OTH not before. If it was on after more people would leave it on and see what a great show it really is.

I love this show. The CW should give this show a chance for a second season!

This show keeps getting better and better. But if no-one knows it's on how can they watch?

Let's get real and give Hidden Palms a chance CW!

Stop cutting the heads off of shows too early. This isn't VM and this isn't it's 3rd season!

We want and deserve better from you!

Save Hidden Palms

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One Tree Hill is a big hit now right. Did people start watching it right away i doubt it u have to give the show a chance more and more people are starting to watch it now u can't just end it after 8 shows there has to be more than 1 season and i think the CW could have done more about promoting the show. This is also one of the best shows ever and there has to be a second season.

Hidden palms is one of the best shows i have ever watched. it needs to have a second season.

SAVE HIDDEN PALMS.. it's probably one of the best shows CW has ever come out with.. it could probably get bigger than One Tree Hill!! Give it a chance!

I love the show, and watch it every Wednesday. You can't cancel it yet!!!

i love hidden palms...u cannot end it after 7 episodes..if u had done a better job promoting it,people would watch it..give it a chance it really has much potential on becoming a really successful show

PS
Cliffy is Hot and I'll be following him on this show or where ever else he goes! He and Greta are the reason I watch!

PLEASE bring Hidden Palms back! It was not the greatest start for me but NOW it's getting good! I want to see MORE!

I think that the CW did a terrible job promoting this show and maybe if it got more commercials or ads then we would have attracted more viewers. I think that it should be given a second chance and given a secon season to grow into an even more AMAZING show! This isnt like any other show on T.V today which makes it scary to some people becuase they dont want to stray away from normal. But i think that if they gave hidden palms a chance they would see that it is an even more awesome show then what they normaly watch becuase it is totally original! It hasnt been givin a fair chance with only having eight episodes which is why it NEEDS to have a season two!

Hidden palms is a great show and they need to see how it would fair in the fall schedule or midseason, no one watches tv in the summer.
but as you can tell by all the fansites, clearly people love the show.
the nielson media research is outdated and the fansites dont lie!!
please bring it back!!!

I also started watching the show late because of the poor advertising. My friends didn't know about the show until I told them. I think if The CW gives Hidden Palms a second season they won't regret it.

Hidden Palms is the best show ever. The only reason its not successful is because the cw didnt advertise. yes its the CW's fault! Way to go CW! Maybe you should advertise your shows and they would work out better. Hidden Palms has the perfect mix of love and scandal. I mean seriously its one of the best shows you've got in your dumb lineup. SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!

I didn't really know about Hidden Palms up until I saw the first episode on MTV. I don't think I even remember seeing advertisements for it. Maybe there were but I didn't notice them. Sorry. Man am I sorry. I'm officially hooked. I can't wait to see what's going to happen next. I can't believe they are going to cut it. I think it's a really great show. The mystery ans suspense are great and the teen drama is so entertaining. I really hope the show will stick around. I like having something to watch on wednesdays.
What's with the CW getting rid of the shows I like. First Gilmore Girls and now Hidden Palms. It's a shame. I don't like any of the other shows on this network. Anyway, I vote that Hidden Palms stay on the air.

Hidden Palms is a great show. The mystery story line that other teen drama's are lacking is interesting and makes me want to come back each week. Here is a better idea...instead of cancelling the show bring it back in the fall instead of OTH...that show is lame.

Dear CW,
Why would you get us hooked on HP on rip the rug out from under us? The story is just getting started and you want to end it! You will lose many loyal CW fans if you pull the plug! You did away with Gilmore Girls and now you are taking HP away, what next 7th heaven, oh wait you took that away already!!!!! Get it right and get rid of the not so great shows that you have and keep the good ones!

hidden palms is the next great show. i love the charecters and enjoy the show alot. i always watch it with my buds. please dont cancel it!

I started watching Hidden Palms from the first episode, but only because I stumbled upon it. I saw a preview just before it aired, and was instantly hooked. I wish the network would have upped its promos much sooner, like it is doing for the new fall season. The CW is already airing promos for "Gossip Girl" left and right, and that doesn't come out for more than a month or so.

What if the network played a mini-marathon one night? And then continued the next season during the fall line-up, say following "Gossip Girls". Both relate to a teen audience, interested in drama.

Please rethink the decision of canceling "Hidden Palms". Even if it is taken this off the network, its substitute will only be a rerun of another series, whose ratings can't be any better. Give it a full season's chance, and I have faith that the show will take off with proper marketing.

I am too upset to say all thats on my mind, but I think this show needs another chance. I mean, for being on during the summer in the same time slot as some pretty popular shows such as "So you think you can dance", i think it has proved itself pretty well. It should be brought back in the fall and I am almost 100% sure you would see a difference.

Please don't let something with so much potential go. I think you owe it to the writers, the actors and of course the fans.

Its such a shame to see something so amazing go down the drain. ;[

I LOVE THE SHOW...IT WAS THE ONE SHOW I ACTUALLY GOT INTO< SO MUCH I NEVER DO ANYTHING ON WEDNESDAY!!!! PLEASE DO NOT CANCEL THE SHOW JUST ADVERTISE MORE!!!!!

Jimmy..the person who runs the fansite, literally, took the words from my mouth. I COMPLETELY agree!!
Goodness.

Okay, I've been a huge fan of Hidden Palms since day one. I watched the first episode, I fell in love. Second, third..then I come to tonight's episode to see an advertisement for the SERIES Finale? NEXT WEEK?!?!

What the hell?!?

I'm the type of person who's pretty picky about shows that I like, but if there's one thing I'm good at it's picking a good show to watch. I never found out about Hidden Palms until the day of the airing of the Pilot episode. I had no idea it existed, and basically almost no one that I know knew it existed. I posted bulletins about it constantly on myspace, would tell everyone I could get a word to about it (and I mean this literally) and some people actually would watch it. And guess what? THEY LIKED IT! Yeah, they did, but the terrible part is that those I couldn't get to still didn't know that it existed. I have yet to see an advertisement for Hidden Palms ANYWHERE, EVER! Shouldn't that be a problem considering that fact that it's brand new and needs advertise?

Another issue I have is the trailers that did air.

Since when do trailers spoil the suspense of the next week's show?
Trailers are supposed to get you to watch, not get you to think, "Oh man. I wish I didn't see that. Now I know what happens!"

Point being, the quantity and quality of the adverisement that was given was lousy. The fact that it's being canceled after only this many episodes is crap.

It's pretty sad that a show with so much potential was never even given a realistic chance.

I am a teen. I started watching this show late. However, that's only because I didn't know about this show. The advertisement was horrible! I mean, put up some billboards, some online adds, some comercials and wah-lah! People will start watching it and love it just as I do. It's such a great outlet for me from the usual stress and drama in my life. This show really NEEDS to continue. In fact, there is a petition going around from all the people who love it and want it to keep going. We are mature and like the adult-like plot and can handle it-to address another major concern. This show is really no worse than many other ones out there. Please keep this show going. Advertisement on myspace! comercials! billboards! It will work! TRUST ME! TRUST US!-WE ARE THE FUTURE-WE ARE THE TEENS WHO LOVE THIS SHOW!-KEEP IT IN FALL-WE GUARENTEE MORE VIEWINGS!
THANKYOU for the time!

I just wanted to say that I LOOOVVVEEE Hidden Palms and will be extremely disappointed to see this show cancel in a time where it is needed. I love the diverse group of characters, dialogue between characters, the back stories, plot, vibrant location and so much more. This show has the makings to become the next BIG Teen drama. I fell in love with this show from the beginning and watch it every Wednesday. I do agree that the show did not receive the publicity it deserved. The commercials that were shown before the series premiered was total crap. I thought it was some type of ad or another Supernatural show "this is the place where people come to die" (yes I remember). And I only tuned in to it after the season finale of OTH AND I AM SOOOOO HAPPY I DID!!! If you would have advertised it normally telling parts of the story in commercials or even publicity in Teen People or Teen Vogue where teens like me look for upcoming shows to premiere and become their new night time line up. And to see pictures of a hot and sexy cast (if teenage girls knew that Michael Cassidy aka cutie comic book lover Zach from the OC who was once the love of Summer plays the bad ass CLIFF of Hidden Palms they would die. I know I did) Who knows if the show would have done better if it was premiered in the fall which is the prime time for new shows and it really does not matter to me I LOOVE HIDDEN PALMS I would pretty much hate the CW for the rest of my life if it was canceled. SOOOO PLEASE KEEP THIS SHOW,watch it grow and become the next One Tree Hill or Gilmore Girls who have seasons and seasons of shows. But I think this is a fantastic show and want to see it for seasons and seasons to come.

"Yeah but the difference again is that Jericho was a small fish in a big pond where CBS averages 15.5 million viewers a show that averages 9mil isn't good at all. A show that is starting to go up in viewership and averages 1-2 million isn't that bad for the summer!"

You made my point. HP is a program with ratings far below a program that CBS originally cancelled so why would CBS even consider to air it? They can get higher ratings with repeats of 2.5men. I understand when viewers like a program sooo much that they want to go to all lenghts to save it.

1-2 mil: Decent for summer? Maybe for repeats not new episodes - even for the CW. Also, what increase in viewership?

"And you have to advertise on other stations."

This I completely agree with and not just for HP, but for all CW programming. The CW should in the very least be using some CBS commercial space to air their programs promos.

"Way to post anonymously grow a pair."

No thanks, don't need to and a pair wouldn't look right on me. Everyone here is basically anonymous, anyway. For instance, I have no idea if you're male or female, your race, religion...etc. Does it matter? no. Sometimes the truth is hard to accept when you like a program. It's no reason to lash out at someone who puts the truth out there.

Everyone has to play the blame game. Who's fault is it that HP is not catching on? The CW? Summertime? The pilot episode? The bad reviews by trusted/far reaching sources?

How much higher do you actually think the ratings would be if the pilot was aired during the fall against new episodes of other scripted programs?

I have really taken a liking to Hidden Palms and it has become a weekly fix in my tv schedule. However, that didn't happen until the third episode.

I never really saw any promos and no idea what the show was about until a promo aired during the OTH finale and it made me want to watch.

I think this show deserves a fall timeslot. I watch a ton of television in the fall, but I rarely watch anything during the summer whether its on the big networks or the smaller ones. Summer is a bad time for television, which is too bad because Hidden Palms is a great show.

SPAIN PEOPLE SAY: PLEASE SAVE HIDDEN PALM!!! PLEASE DONT CANCEL THE SHOW!! HIDDEN PALM CAN BE A GREAT SHOW IN THE FUTURE..ONLY NEED TIME AND PROMO!!

"Bacio: CBS would never re-air a pilot that couldn't even reach 2mil in viewership. Be realistic. Look what it took for viewers to get Jericho renewed - a program that had 8 mil viewers."

Yeah but the difference again is that Jericho was a small fish in a big pond where CBS averages 15.5 million viewers a show that averages 9mil isn't good at all.

The CW averages what 3.5 million at best? A show that is starting to go up in viewership and averages 1-2 million isn't that bad for the summer!

Think before you speak seriously. Summer shows are a whole different ball game. And you have to advertise on other stations.

Way to post anonymously grow a pair.

I sure hope the higher-ups at The CW read these comments. I'd love to have their Marketing/PR person say with a straight face that they did all they could to make Hidden Palms a success.

Bet they can't do it.

This should have been a fall premiere, with all the hoopla, mass marketing, talk-of-the-town promotion possible. Why? Because A) it's a new network, B) it's a Kevin Williamson show, and C) it's a riveting we-will-hook-you-in show, set in a glamorous place that's rarely been used as a setting for a show before!

I had been looking forward to this program (aka the more appealling "Palm Springs" -- what was the CW smoking?) ever since I read of it being picked up...and wouldn't have EVEN known it was finally going to air until I stumbled upon a brief promo while switching channels on TV. HUH?! WHAT promotion??!

After that moment, the few promo ads I DID see did absolutely NOTHING for me. Nothing. They were dark and non-sensical, and not exactly something that would entice people to sit inside on a summer night and watch a brand new serial drama. Who in their right mind would have ok'd those promos at The CW? They were AWFUL.

I feel like the CW doesn't WANT us to watch the show...but why? What the heck is wrong with the program that I am missing? Personally, I LOVE the show. The title sucks, as mentioned numerous times, but my God does this show have promise!!

Having seen many quality shows die from network neglect, I realize I could be writing to those with blinders on; however, I am passionate about this show and HAVE to add my two cents. Kudos to Kevin. You have won new fans and have done your existing fans proud. I hope we haven't seen the last of "Palm Springs" -- oh, sorry CW, I meant "Hidden Palms"(?).

How about we give you another chance CW? Let's do a second season, and watch you do it the right way! We'll watch, guaranteed!

I place full responsibility on the CW for Hidden Palms' middling performance...and it's a real shame. The show is stylish, brooding, and fills the void left by OTH, The OC, and others that won't be back. Yet CW has buried it in the summer, and of course the ratings will be minimal.

A couple things of note:
1. The title. It's awful! When the show was picked up - way back when - it was announced as "Palm Springs". LOVE that title, and all that those two words captures in its romantic,secretive, scandalous, and playful history. What the heck does Hidden Palms mean??! That does nothing to identify the show.

2. It's like the kiss of death to announce a show for a network's lineup then delay the thing anyway, but in the interim, the CW swept the show under the rug. No mention of "Coming Soon", no firm midseason timeslot, nothing...Then, it's tossed to the wolves, and furthermore, doubles up the episodes to get the show over with as quickly as they can, apparently. A few posters in a bust stop does not cut it in promoting a show, CW.

Here's an appealling cast, both in the teenagers and parents...an allure of a golden beauty of an oasis setting, a great script, but with a network that sure seems to despise everything about the show. WHY??!

There is SO much potential here!! Kevin Williamson is GOLD. Love how Gail and Sharon chew up the scenery, and the whole deal has me hooked and spreading the word.

CW needs to commit to a show of this nature, and let it grow. Nurture it, promote it, obligate yourself to its - and your - success!

To begin with, the show takes place in Palm Springs. This is a great resort destination with a romantic Hollywood past.

The name of the Show, Hidden Palms, should have included Palm Springs. This would have added to the audience.

A show premiering in the summer is difficult. The CW Network is not extremely well watched. The Show should have been given at least a 13 week trial. Not 8 episodes squeezed into 4 or 5 weeks. This is not enough time for a new show to develop a following.

What made the Pilot for HP so enticing was the fact that it was actually filmed in the Palm Springs area. To pull it out of the area, and into a set in Arizona took away any of the "feel and flavor" of Palm Springs. In my opinion, Palm Springs is as important to HP as any of the characters. It should have been an on location show, not filmed in a sound stage in another state.

BooHoo to Kevin Williamson.

1) HP was all over the internet. I came across many HP reviews and wasn't even looking for them.

2) Digital Cable has available descriptions of each program on tv.

3) HP is being aired against cheesy summer reality programs and repeats of scripted programs.

4) The CW did not promote this any less than the rest of their programs.

5) CW even began airing HP 2 days a week

Come on...

The problem is not promotion: The problem is getting people (who do not currently watch a program on the CW) to tune in at all. (A poster promo with 2 half naked teens is not going to change that.)

Also, the CW had been promoting HP to their current viewers beginning months before airing the pilot. The low ratings show that the large majority of their audience is not interested in this program. Something else that probably made people decide not to watch: The CW pushed back the premier date to summer, which can lead someone to believe that the CW didn't have high hopes to begin with. Honestly, can you blame them? I, for one, cannot believe they even picked up this program from what was piloted. Seems as if they picked it up just fill in some air space.

Bacio: CBS would never re-air a pilot that couldn't even reach 2mil in viewership. Be realistic. Look what it took for viewers to get Jericho renewed - a program that had 8 mil viewers.

Dear The CW,
I watch nothing on The CW except the best show that has ever happen to you and former WB and that is "One Tree Hill".You were smart by giving OTH its fifth season and hopefully more. However, you bought "Hidden Palms” and released it in the summer when this should have been released way before when pussycat dolls came on, Wednesday should have led a full night of teen drama with hidden palms and OTH, that the way to make the ratings. Hidden Palms can make it by promoting it more as well, the only reason i even knew that this show was even going to be on air was the fact there was a promo before a segment in OTH, so The CW should give a full season to HP and not just a short summer trip.

The CW definitely did a terrible job of advertising for Hidden Palms. The only reason I found out about the show is because my sister was a big Dawson's Creek fan and she found out that the creator was coming out with a new show.

There were no good promos for it. I have seen a promo, a long one too, for Gossip Girls a million times and the only promo for HP I ever saw was the one with Greta breaking down on the golf course which was very reminiscent of The OC when Marissa over dosed in Mexico. After seeing the show I had no idea why they used that clip for HP it really didn't suite the show at all, that promo made it look like it was going to be like The OC and its not at all.

I totally agree with Kevin Williamson, that the show is getting the ratings for what they advertised. I think it would have done better with a fall premiere or even a mid-season one. Summer shows usually have less viewers and with very poor advertising what could you expect. The show has the mystery and drama, and with the wittiness and sarcasm of the characters it brings in some comedy. I think the show could be a big hit with the proper advertising. Hidden Palms deserves a second season with better advertising!!

"Last week The CW promoted it more and the ratings increase to 1,77 Millions at the end of Mulligan. The Pilot only got 1,60 Millions."

Wishmaster....recheck your numbers on Mulligan...the final number is 1.539mil. The first hour was 1.282.

The promos didn't help.

Currently, the Hidden Palms myspace page has approx. 921 friends. (www.myspace.com/hidden_palms) Utilize this. WOM (word of mouth) has a lasting impact. Advertise on MySpace - ANYWHERE - the log-in screen, etc. Send out reminder bulletins embedding the preview for the upcoming show. It's easy for ppl to fwd those on.

Make the website a bit more user friendly. Archive the previous shows. There's nothing like a friend telling you about an amazing show only for you to watch it and be so incredibly lost that you never watch it again. If you post the previous shows you can catch up on what you missed or rewatch something someone else caught. Any maybe you already have this, but if you do it's not easily accessible. Even by saying at the end of the show, "Go to www.myspace.com/hidden_palms to catch up on any missed moments and to catch a preview for next week's show." Previews are usually so quick that people want to see them again. Also, you can track the foot traffic to the site to document interest.

This stuff doesn't cost much money if any. Maybe you should think about hiring some young people to help you out with this whole marketing aspect of things.

Excuse me, but I see hidden palms commercials every time I put on the CW or WGN programming, the station that airs it in chicago.

The CW was promoting HP well before the season finales of their regular season programs.

The Chicago Tribune's Free RedEye newspaper targeted to the 18-30 yr olds had a positive article on the premier.

TV Guide had a printed article about HP for the premiern (which probably hurt the the show because Mr. Roush gave it a bad review.)

No offense, Kevin Williamson's work on this is mediocre at best. It's predicable and not original. This is just another sex drama.

The Pilot was awful with horrible acting.

Lastly, the CW is hurting itself by angering it's current viewers.

Where to begin? First, I'll start off w/echoing the comments about the 08nova ads. They were sloppy and likely did more damage than help. What's the point of a promo if you never mention the show?
Second, the CW finally made some decent promos but mostly abstained from showing them until all other shows had ended: when nobody was watching. I have mentioned HP to several ppl, yet no one knows what I'm talking about. What a sad testament to the CW's marketing!

I could go on, but you get the idea.

I think that Hidden Palms is an amazing show. It has become my favorite show. I think the CW could have done ALOT more to promote it. ALSO i think that it would have done much much better as a fall premiere because as it premiered now it is a very strange time for a new show to be on. I would not have known about it if my friend hadnt sent me a link talking about it (not by the CW). Hidden Palms had the potential to be a great show, but because the CW is dumb and doesnt know how to advertise their shows it has no chance.

SAVE THIS SHOW, PLEASE.
WHAT A GREAT SHOW, the cast and story lines are awesome, quirky and intriguing. the cast fabu!!! and that gretta, what a sultry good girl bordering on vixen, she's gorgeous!! the cast as an ensamble is outstanding!!
I'M MOVING TO PALM SPRINGS!!

Yes, I'd say so. I found out about the show through a very, VERY obscure web site. Had I not discovered it that way, nothing the CW did to promote it would have been seen by me.

As a matter of fact, the only CW promos I've seen for Hidden Palms, I downloaded from various web sites on the show.

I personally have loved this show from the begining but I beleive the CW did a terrible job at advertising Hidden Palms. The teaser videos were terrible and nothing related to the plot of the story and the theme. "Nothing changes if nothing changes"...if I hadn't already known about the show, this would NOT have helped. Secondly, letting the pilot leak months before the premeir was either careless or not well thought through. It made people rather watch something else because they had already seen the pilot. This show could have had a great start but sadly, the CW, who seems to be going down hill with their choices, has failed to let this show live. Not only has Hidden Palms effected itself but also my #1 favourite show, One Tree Hill. People stopped tuning in after Hidden Palms, creating an all time low in our ratings. Once again, great work CW.

I personally have loved this show from the begining but I beleive the CW did a terrible job at advertising Hidden Palms. The teaser videos were terrible and nothing related to the plot of the story and the theme. "Nothing changes if nothing changes"...if I hadn't already known about the show, this would NOT have helped. Secondly, letting the pilot leak months before the premeir was either careless or not well thought through. It made people rather watch something else because they had already seen the pilot. This show could have had a great start but sadly, the CW, who seems to be going down hill with their choices, has failed to let this show live. Not only has Hidden Palms effected itself but also my #1 favourite show, One Tree Hill. People stopped tuning in after Hidden Palms, creating an all time low in our ratings. Once again, great work CW.

i think hidden palms could do very well it deffiantly has the potential and decent actors in it one thing that would boost the ratings alot is comedy since gilmore girls has gone hidden palms could be that next comedy/drama show plus the mystery which so many people like and they will stop comparing it to the oc

I remember when One Tree Hill was just starting out there was posters promoting it all over my mall. I believe if this was done more people would have found out about Hidden Palms sooner.

Palms def. could have been marketed better in alot of ways. CBS could have taking a Saturday night off from repeatville to show the pilot after it premiered. Also, MTV, CBS and other CW affiliates could have promoted Hidden Palms, with trailers that weren't so odd.

The 30sec 08Nova adds doesn't match the feel of Hidden Palms, nor do they do anything for the show. It also isn't so much where and how but how much and how often. Also a 9pm slot would do wonders for the show.

Hi,I'm a 15 year old teenager, who is a total fan of this new teenage soap! I totally agree on this promotion thingie...I've been the one telling my friends and family OMG you guys have to totally watch this new show...it's amazing and they thought the same and now there going crazy for it and are addicts just like me to hidden palms... so please just don't take out the next seasons...probably if you guys would of promoted it better on season fanales and other important events people would of watched it even more...what PaleBlueDot said is really true...I don't care if you post this...I just want you guys to get the message that many people will be disapointed if this show stops!!!!

I believe that you should have posted a lot more commercials on more stations. for example, through ABC family or something like that.

To get people into it as of now, just run a marathon.

Also, I believe that you should bring it back for a second season.

I work in the marketing dept. at Court TV and know how hard it is to promote or market a show. I'm 18, so I enjoy these types of shows ( guessing I'm within you're target audience). I personally believe it should have been premiered in the fall, when I'm actually home and cant wait for a good show to come to on to take me away from my hw. The summer is tough, because well, we are on the beach and dont really need to watch people laying on the beach on TV.
I like the show and hope it stays for another season, but hopefully in September.

I never watched the O.C. I wasnt really that interested, even though I felt like the only person who didnt watch it. But one day I came onto the CW site to watch an episode of Supernatural and chose to watch an episode of Hidden Palms. The first episode intrigued me... so I watched all the rest in a matter of 2 days. I really want to find out what happened to Eddie... I like where the story is going. Yeah, it has the cliche teen drinking problems and rich white dysfunctional families... but I actually got hooked. My friends and I like it(we are 17 - 18). I think the show should continue... just as long as it stays away from the who- slept with who and stays with the who - killed- who.

I knew about Hidden Palms because I read a lot of entertainment news online.

I think the CW failed in promoting it because the only promos I remember seeing for it before the premiere were a few short, static filled teasers that told nothing about the show.

I've seen more promotional spots for next fall's Gossip Girl and reruns of Supernatural than for HP.

It gives me the impression that the CW wasn't behind the show from the beginning.

I definately think you should have air the show next fall ! I am not American but I've heard that they were in vacation since the beginning of june ! And even if they are well-known as the biggest TV viewers, maybe they take a break during summer lol

Anyway, it is so bad that the show gets poor ratings as it is good :)

It was promoted so poorly. Many friends of mine watch the CW a lot yet have never even seen a Hidden Palms add or commercial. The very few commercials the CW has shown are quite short and do not show highlights of the show or what this great show is truely about. Hidden Palms deserves a second chance with the same promotion that the fall line-up is getting.

I think in general the CW could've done a better job promoting a lot of its shows. There are promos for the hits (Smallville, Supernatural, PCD Search) every night, but shows like Veronica Mars only got promoted heavily on Sundays or during Gilmore Girls. The quality of the Hidden Palms promos were also low, the show is basically teen Twin Peaks and is really kind of growing and finding its own, but the promos aired make it look like another OC knock off. The CW promos tend to go this route, making me think it's actually a strategy to make everything look like the new OC. I worry for Gossip Girl being plugged so much with its OC connections. Hello, that show was just cancelled.

You should put it after OTH and please put it in the fall, if you (hopefully) renew it for a second season. I think 1.82 million with low promotion and even in the summer, when everybody is on cacation is pretty good

I loveeeeeeeee Hidden Palms... Its my favourite show. I hope it doesn't get canned..Please renew it for a second season, beacuse it deserves it and I am sure more people will tune if you dont put it agains : dancing with the stars!!

I think that Hidden Palms should have benn promoted more. Last week The CW promoted it more and the ratings increase to 1,77 Millions at the end of Mulligan. The Pilot only got 1,60 Millions.

Maybe an premiere in August would have been better, like the OC or Prison Break. It worked for these two very well.

The Competition with Dancing with the Stars isn't good as well for the series.
Kevin Wiliamson mentioned that the have a very low budget so i hope the CW give Hidden Palms a Second Chance like the final episode is called ;)

The CW network hasn't given Hidden Palms a fair chance. They are way too impatient and expect every show to come out a mega hit, if not it gets cancelled. Shows need time to grow and build a fan base. The way The CW network has handled Hidden Palms, it has never been given an opportunity to even be a mega hit. No lead-in to launch the show, constant delaying of the premiere, scheduled during the awkward off-season, no marketing strategy and hardly any promotion. Obviously The CW execs have a "Hidden Agenda" that would require the show to debut unceremoniously and to the point where no one is aware that the show exists. The CW network hasn't given any sort of assistance to Hidden Palms; the only promotion the show is getting is from the fans. The CW should step it up. If Hidden Palms gets cancelled, after only 8 episodes, I won't forgive The CW. It would be good quality TV being poured down the toilet for brainless trash that you call the Pussycat Dolls (which ironically, gets a ton of promotion).

I definitely believe Hidden Palms should have been promoted more.It is such an amazing show that has truly caught my attention from the very first episode. Unfortunately, any "promotion" for the show barely saw any screen time. I only happened to start watching Hidden Palms when a friend asked me if I was going to check out its Season Premiere. It's sad because I see massive potential in Hidden Palms, for many a seasons to come, however, now fans find themselves signing a petition, practically begging for a second season! I just hope you know the low ratings truly are not attributed to the fact that Hidden Palms is not a good show at all. On the contrary, it really is the next best thing. This is evident through the loyal support from fans, especially online.I'm not going to try and tell you what you should have done, whether Hidden Palms would have done better with a fall premiere. I just think it's a shame seeing the season end prematurely. It really would have been an entertaining show to be obsessed about for the summer, and yet it is going to end on the 4th of July, leaving me with 2 months of what? No Hidden Palms. And that makes me truly disappointed. I feel for Williamson because he--not to mention the show-- really deserves more credit than he is actually receiving! Hidden Palms is hands down my new favourite show; I've never felt more emotionally involved and provoked by such good television. Please take all our comments into account. We all love Hidden Palms. The CW cannot deny that.

I feel that Hidden Palms was not promoted enough to get a lot of viewers. Its good to have a summer show though i think its also harder to get people to notice it. I think that the CW should keep Hidden Palms going but instead put it into the fall before One Tree Hill. With everyone getting t-vo now its much harder to advertize shows so u have to make sure to advertize during main tv shows like One tree hill. Please keep Hidden Palms going

The show would have done alot better if it permeried after One Tree Hill because people wouldnt have anything to watch on Wendsdays and maybe would have tuned in more. Also being shown in the fall would have been better because during the summer people are on vacation and tend not to watch as much TV.

Williamson is right--the show was barely marketed. The response I always get when I mention it to friends is something along the lines of "Hidden Palms? What's that? I've never heard of it..."

It's really rather ridiculous. The CW is relying on word of mouth from the very few that have caught the show, and that's just not how shows get popular. It needs to be advertised constantly.

Airing it after One Tree Hill would have been a great choice. Both shows have some of the same elements, so it's likely that the OTH fans would have kept watching.

To cancel the show after only 8 episodes is pathetic. That's not even giving it a chance. They've sabatoged the show from the beginning by not giving it the marketing it deserves, and now they're going to cut it.

In my humble opinion, the CW is quickly going downhill. They need to get their act together ASAP.

What I don't understand is how the CW expects Hidden Palms to do well when there promoting is crazy low. I honestly have not seen any Hidden Palms commercials - yet I watch the CW whenever I can.

What better ways to promote the CW?

1. Take some time into advertising. It would be wonderful to see the CW work on some trailers to get people hyped up about Hidden Palms. Hidden Palms is that awesome show that would be a monster hit if people really knew about it. Maybe try and post commercials for Hidden Palms at the end or beginning or commercial breaks of other hit shows. That's a great way to get people going!

2. Look at palms.svfan.com. The website is phenomonal! The devotion to Hidden Palms is massive. Look away from the fact it doesn't have a heck of a lot of people - think, that could be because of the CW...
Just taking the time to look at their site, and promote, look, promote, look, promote...

3. Give Kevin Williamson and the rest of the crew a chance. A second season would be the bomb! Imagine Hidden Palms in high school. Just think of what could come to Hidden Palms later on!

4. If all else fails, and somehow no second season comes, then please, PLEASE, create a DVD of Hidden Palms. So many people would buy it and you'd be giving yourself a profit.

Consider the show. It's called Hidden Palms. Created by Kevin Williamson. It's got one heck of a lot of potential but isn't being given the chance to do so.

Comeon, the CW, comeon!

The tv advertisement in Canada did not capture the essence of the show (Hidden Palms). It was even less interesting then those shown on CW network.

i absolutely agree that hidden palms didn't get enough publicity and the marketing techniques were terrible. it's one of the best shows i've ever seen and i'm addicted to it, and many others could be. the only reason i watch the show is because at 8:45 i turned on the tv to watch a 9o'clock episode of one tree hill and i watched the last 15 minutes of the hidden palms pilot. i've now seen every episode. it's soo good. and if the oc started off with the type of marketing hidden palms got, it wouldn't be nearly as popular. hidden palms has amazing potential and is such a great show, all it needs is more marketing to be a complete hit, the way it already is in my house and some friends' houses. put up billboards, run reruns, commercials commercials commercials, and i suggest you put amber heard and taylor handley on tv interview shows. PUBLICITY, ADVERTISING...market it. everything about this show is fantastic, now all that's needed is for millions more to realize it.

I whole-heartedly agree that Hidden Palms should have been promoted more. I have been anticipating this series since last summer and it is very disappointing to see how the show (including it’s fans) has been treated by The CW network. First off it kept getting delayed to the point where it’s in the off-season where no one watches TV (especially The CW). The advertisement was really lacking. The mass of the promotion was aired after all of the other CW shows were off the air for the season. No wonder why the ratings for Hidden Palms are in the 1 millions, it’s because the only people aware of the show are the 1 million people who watch reruns of The CW’s shows. Plus, there was no lead-in show to help launch Hidden Palms. It’s not right The CW has given no aide to the show and only the fans are the ones promoting...

The CW should have put this show before a really popular show, that way if people tune in a little early, catch a minute of the show tey will be hooked.

Hidden Palms is what TV has been missing. It appeals to all ages and helps fill the void of many shows that have been cancelled that did not desrve too.The funny thing about Hidden Palms is that the only way I knew it existed was by checking an The OC website where it posted that two OC alum where starring in a new show on the CW. It's a sad day when a network doesn't invest in a show that they decided to pick-up. It has a incrediable following (just check out myspace Groups), and several fan based websites to help save the show. Just advertise the right wasy and your triple or more those numbers. The CW has a hit in the palm of their hands and are letting it slip away.

A few weeks during the summer is surely not indicative of the success of Hidden Palms. Williamson has had great popularity with previous efforts. This show is battling for ratings when much of the population is on vacation. Try advertising on MTV or even MYSPACE, reach out to everyone, not just the young crowd. Much of us are looking for a replacement for Veronica Mars or the O.C., this is not only a great drama but a well written show. I am getting to the point, if reality shoes are the only successful programs, I will just shut my tv off all together.I know the CW needs better ratings, how about giving a great show a chance.

Hidden Palms, as the song by BM LINX used in one of the promotional trailers is a "...tragic love story." However the promotional campaign The CW put forth for this Kevin Williamson masterpiece is the biggest tragedy of all. One could say the fans of the show have put forth more effort in the shows promotion than the network itself.

The CW failed on many fronts. For starters the initial campaign to promote this show started much too late. During the season finales for the big fall shows, Hidden Palms was virtually ignored. I recorded every prime time spot from April and I hardly heard a peep out of The CW about a new network show. The ads they were running (the 08Nova ads) were cryptic, unintelligible, and as brief as can be. They had no story-line and even if you could catch the second-long flash of a website URL, you were sent to a site that was even more cryptic. Notice, The CW hasn't updated this site lately.

The first real commercials didn't really start showing up in mass until after the fall show finales...a period when making people aware that there would be something new and exciting to watch this Summer would have made an impact. There are tons of fans of Smallville, Supernatural, and until recent, Veronica Mars who only watch The CW (or previously UPN/WB) in the fall season and never check back until the next season starts. They totally missed the boat.

Once they were done promoting their fall season finales and viewership tanked; only then did The CW really start promoting. And they did do so in force, but with less than a Month until air date, it was a failed attempt at best. Five different trailers aired and you could hardly watch a network show without seeing a spot for Hidden Palms. Too bad no one was watching anymore.

To make things worse, YahooTV released the pilot AND the second episode online. Not just short clips or an abbreviated summary, but the whole show! With only 8 episodes in the can 1/4 of the season had already watched by the biggest fans. The original un-cut Pilot had been floating around the Internet since January and was in high distribution. Keeping the final cut offline and a surprise for the Series Premiere would have been the smart choice. If they wanted to generate online buzz, the underground file traders were already doing that for them. The CW simply added to the lack of anticipation for the premiere date.

After the Pilot, and the low ratings were known, The CW did little to try and rectify the situation. Commercial advertisement went from 5 unique trailers to one fairly stinted one. It aired about half as often and was more of a spoiler than a teaser. From this day forward, we would only get one trailer cut and the frequency would dwindle. You will see more promos for shows airing three months away than you do for a show airing next Wednesday! Where was this hype engine before Hidden Palms aired?

After the Full Night event airing What Liza Beneath and Mulligan, I've seen only two airings of the Trailer as of Saturday. Mr. Williamson has every right to be upset. These two episodes are some of the best dramatic writing I've seen played out of The CW since its inception last fall. It has all the makings of mega hit. But even the best shows will fail in the ratings if no one even knows it is on.

I work with the public in my every day life and I speak to thousands of people daily. I have yet to actually find another person, besides online, who has even heard of Hidden Palms. How could this be? Only one answer comes to mind. The CW failed Hidden Palms and its fans. For a new network trying to play with the Big Boys, it has a lot to learn.

I run the Hidden Palms Fansite. I got an email a few weeks back from a fan who told me myself and my administrative partner do a better job at promoting this show than The CW. I'd love to take that as a compliment. However, I feel I can only see it as a massive letdown by The CW.

Sorry to rant, but I...like my fellow fans...are very passionate about this.

Jc

Yes. Air it in the fall, or in midseason.

Also, airing it after OTH would have helped tons.

Williamson is correct, the promotion for this show was horrible.

i think that there is very little promotion, there is just as much promotion for repeats of shows like smallville if not more than what the new episodes of Hidden Palms is receiving.

The Cw and the Upn were never netwrks big on advertizing. I never knew there was a second season of Veronica Mars I thought it had been canceled after two shows cause I never heard a word about it. And wb shows like charmed were never advertised if you were lucky you seen a small trailor for the next eppi one in a six hour block of watching the shows. even ones that were related to the topic. Maybe hidden palms should be happy they even got a commercial advertising the show. Cause I really should have to ask the question is the show based in a rehab center or something cause I have an incling but the nothing explained that before hand and I'm not going to watch the show.

You know what, HP fans? CW doesn't promote a lot of shows that could do better in the ratings. like Supernatural. You know how CW promotes SN? "SMALLVILLE all new this thursday on the CW (fineprint: followed by Supernatural)." Superfans have kind of taken advertising for the show into our own hands. I sugest you do the same. Want ideas? Teamwinchester.com

Imagine that

Someone else complaining about not getting a fair shake in marketing. In which I have to agree because I didnt know a damn thing about this show until I saw posts in this blog. Other than that... I really didnt see or hear about this show at all.

This network seems to really be screwing itself over.

I posted that article to the SPN board and we lamented with and for them. As you here on the blog have heard more than once, we, too, suffer from undermarketing.

Williamson speaks the truth. It's 110% true. The CW shouldn't have expected Hidden Palms to do well when it was almost exclusively advertised during other CW shows. Especially since this is the CW, and the crossover audience between their different shows is very poor to begin with.

For example, Smallville and Supernatural are paired together, but Smallville's ratings only rarely have any impact on Supernatural's. When Smallville began to tank towards the end of the season, Supernatural's ratings remained fairly steady. That's on the same night, let alone imagining the CW's Tuesday audience tunes in on Thursdays, or vis versa.

The CW remains seemingly oblivious to the fact no one will tune into its shows when nobody knows when they or airing or that they even exist. Maybe their invisible "advertisement strategy" involves a coven of psychics sitting in a circle on the top floor of their office building, meditating on attracting new viewers to their network.

Well, the CW Network? Let me let you in on something: It's not working.

I wanted to comment on the death of Mr McMahon. I have watched the videos, and can't help but wonder if the whole thing is staged. First of all, why would he be filmed walking out to his car, but not be filmed getting into the car? Also, when the car blew up, the cameras caught that, too, but not Mr. McMahon getting into the limousine. When the car was burning, there was no sign of anyone being in the limousine. I'm sure the shape of someone's body would have been seen inside the vehicle. BUT, if he really was killed, I would be looking Edge. He was not too happy with what Mr. McMahon had to say about him going up against Batista.

Tell Williamson to get in line. Waiting for S6 Smallville all last season. Sure, the Lexana (read: Lana) eps and Lois T&A eps got better than average representation but it all pretty much sucked. Probably why the ratings took such hit. I'm done ranting now.

Wait, what? The CW not doing a good job promoting? That's ridiculous.

Yes, that was sarcasm.

The CW has a bad habbit of not promoting their shows all that well... and there are clear favourites when it comes to what shows will be getting the little promotion the network is willing to give.

I actually think Hidden Palms have been promoted fairly well compared to some of the network's other shows. Also, the internet buz was on long before it even aired so it had good chances of succeeding.
The promotion has gone down hill some, yes, but to me it doesn't seem like the CW really intends to keep this one around and so spending a lot of money on promotion for it wouldn't make sense.

Quote:
"Williamson doesn't sound thrilled about how the network's promoting his show: 'I don't think this show is marketed to the extent it could have been.'"

O really? No, it probably hasn't but it's no different than it is for other struggling CW shows.

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