Hidden Palms: Kevin Williamson Speaks -- And He Wants More Marketing
Creator Kevin Williamson talked to The Desert Sun (a Palm Springs newspaper). Interesting tidbit: he'd wanted the soapy drama to be called "Palm Springs," but The CW changed that.
Williamson doesn't sound thrilled about how the network's promoting his show: "I don't think this show is marketed to the extent it could have been. I feel like we're getting the ratings for the amount of marketing they're putting into us."
What do you guys think? Hidden Palms fans, we know you're out there. Do you think the show should've been promoted more? Would it have done better with a fall premiere? Or would it have helped to air the show after an established hit like OTH? Tell us what you think!
Comments
I really enjoyed the show - and I want to be able to buy it on DVD with the other 5 unaired episodes.. Are you listening Lionsgate?
I understand you will not bring the show back - but why not put it on DVD.
Posted by: jim w | February 26, 2008 7:26 PM
BRING BACK VERONICA MARS!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2007 5:52 PM
Thats funny, I've watched the show and found nothing interesting or good about it. CW this time you actually promoted hidden palms. I saw the commercials for it 100 times a day, it was so over promoted that it got to the point of me being annoyed. If it didn't earn fans by that much promos then cancelling it is a great idea. Sorry to HP fans, but the show just wasn't good enough. There are other amazing shows that didn't deserve to be cancelled. So get over it and CW don't feel bad for canceling it, that much promos should of gotten so many fans. As for the creater of HP, GET OVER IT! Your show had all the publicity a show can get and even more...
Posted by: Meme | September 9, 2007 7:30 PM
I saw so many promotions for this show that it isn't even funny. So i dont think the cw failed to promote this show because THEY HAVE PROMOTED SHOWS WAY WORST.To be specific VERONICA MARS. Now theres a show that was never promoted. Most people dont even now what it is. Why? Because CW sucked at promoting it.
Posted by: Livie | September 9, 2007 5:59 PM
I LOVE HIDDEN PALMS! omg. this show is seriously my favorite show ever. every episode, something happens that leaves you in shock and yearning for the next episode cause you cant handle waiting to see what happens. i love it so much. some people hate the show with rich kids because they think they are stupid and brag, but really johnny and greta are so intelligent. i love how they talk and how they think. they have a great vocabulary. i just love this show and i will die if it doesnt come back for a second season.
Posted by: Brittany | August 19, 2007 2:37 AM
So I personally am in love with this show...you just don't know whats going to happen next unlike one tree hill and the oc etc. (which i was a die hard fan as well) but this show was different it kept you guessing. And because it was aired so late in the year no one watched it because ,people are outside enjoying the weather. If it would have started in the fall then for sure it would have been a hit. One of those shows where u go to school and everyone is like i watched this crazy show called hidden palms and everyone ends up watching it and its a hit! I had no clue about it but i watched all the episodes and now im just thinking what now?! Thats it?! I WANT MORE!
Posted by: Kelsey | August 12, 2007 2:53 AM
I LOVE HIDDEN PALMS.
I actually had no idea what it was until i was bored one night on The CW website. I fell in love after the first episode...just dying to know what happen and who was with who and who killed eddie. i stayed up for 5 hours watching all the episodes that were on so far and every week after that i got to watch the last 2! i need to know what happens next season!
Posted by: ashley | August 3, 2007 9:23 PM
Hidden Palms is one of the best shows I have ever seen. I feel that it is better than the O.C. and it had just begun. I am sad for Williams because his show was not properly marketed at all! Dawsons Creek was amazing and this show is even better. Keep the show going and put some effort into it.
Posted by: nicky | July 27, 2007 10:53 PM
Good show, good cast that you all at the CW didn't give a chance. Most people hadn't even heard of the show that I talked to. I just happened to watch the promos & started watching. I have to admit your fall shows are looking lam. I'm a big Smallville and Supernatural fan and I did like Hidden Palms and Everwood and Reba. Come one, give Hidden Palms a chance.
Posted by: Melinda Wood | July 20, 2007 10:11 PM
I agree with the majority here stating that The CW has put forth little effort in promoting their shows and the network itself in general. If you don't put money into marketing and advertising and bet all hope that word of mouth will promote your shows, sorry, it is a disaster waiting to happen.
I didn't know that 7th Heaven was resurrected last season until after the season premier had already aired. Missing that episode basically ruined the whole season for me. I am soured completely on The CW for good now. With the cancellation of Everwood, Gilmore Girls, and now Hidden Palms, it can now sulk off into obscurity and disappear forever. I won't miss it a single moment. There are literally hundreds of channels to watch on satellite and cable which translates into thousands of shows ready and waiting to be watched and grab up market share and I am sure other networks have put money into market research and demographic studies to see where they can get the best bang for their netword dollars.
Posted by: Leslie | July 19, 2007 4:38 PM
ok what? Hidden Palms is being cancelled!!?? one day this summer i was bored and just decided to go to the CW website because i heard that there was a Gossip Girl show coming out. while i was searching the site, i saw that you could watch full episodes of shows. Hidden Palms being one of them. I started watching and just couldn't stop! I kept coming back to the site until I had watched every episode. I kept wondering why i had never heard of the show and then I remembered that i had...with THE WORST COMMERCIAL FOR A SHOW I HAD EVER SEEN! All the ad was was a girl crying in the rain for about 30 seconds. thats it. why would anyone watch that show after seeing that?! Get someone else to advertise, run the first season again in the FALL not the summer, and you will have people begging for more...like me! So make a second season. it is not the show's fault it had horrible air time and promotion
Posted by: selena | July 19, 2007 3:44 PM
hello,
i think that the CW could have done some things different. The BIGGEST mistake they made was airing Hidden Palms in the Summer! Hidden Palms could have become a HUGE Success, bigger then "The O.C" i believe...it was a New, Fresh...had a GREAT idea for the base of the show. I believe ALOT of people would have caught on & started watching. I mean, look at the people who actually DO watch it now...they absolutley Love it. How could you not? The Cast is an Amazing group, people can relate to.
I think instead of putting blame and saying what the CW did wrong, we should be giving Idea's on how to actually keep the show around!
I know everyone whos a Fan now wants it to stay on the air %150.
One idea i have...Play season 1 OVER AGAIN in the Fall...no one is going to mind watching it again. People can't get enough of the show! You'll get 100x more fans then you have now.
I dont know but its a shame to see that show go. It was great while it lasted.
Thanks - Dawn
Posted by: dawn | July 19, 2007 3:31 PM
I did not even watch the first couple Hidden Palm's episodes because all of the commercials I saw for it gave me the impression that the show was just about partying and living the good life, but the show was far from just that. I never saw in the commercial anything to do with the murder mystery, which makes me wonder WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??? That was the whole point of the show: THE MYSTERY.... They should have let the audience know what the show was really about rather than show commercials that didn't do the show justice. Hidden Palms better be back on in the winter.
Posted by: James Hoover | July 19, 2007 11:50 AM
Hidden palms for sure deserves another season! It is an amazing show and i think if it was in the fall line up for a second season it would do much better. Another reason for it not doing so well was that the CW did a terrible job at promoting it! Give it another chance!
Posted by: Andrea | July 19, 2007 8:28 AM
This show was cool. I think uguys should give it a 2 chance. People ddint watch the season finale because its was the 4th and everyone was out doing something and plus its summer put it in the fall and it will get better ratings
Posted by: Josh | July 18, 2007 9:20 PM
PLEASE don't cancel Hidden Palms!!!
Posted by: Jessica | July 18, 2007 7:43 PM
PLEASE SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!
I LOVED The O.C And When It Ended I Thought I'd Never Find A Show Like It.
But I Did! I Found Hidden Palms.
It's Suspenseful, Addictive, And Mind Blowing! And I'd Love To See Several Seasons Of It!
So SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!!!
Posted by: Sara | July 17, 2007 10:14 PM
PLEASEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
IT'S SO SUSPENSEFUL AND AMAZING!!!!!
PLEASE DON'T END IT
Posted by: us | July 12, 2007 10:06 PM
this show was not promoted well at all it is such bull crap that i have to sit through the oc being cancelled and my repalcement for the oc hidden palms to be cancelled to! is the cw smoking crack?
Posted by: kyle | July 11, 2007 8:33 PM
This show is amazing I would hate to see it go. Please give it another chance.
Posted by: Samantha | July 11, 2007 2:56 PM
i would never have known this show existed if i wasnt googling the show Gossip Girl. They are both hosted by the CW and i somehow stumbled upon hidden palms and thought it looked alright. They definately should have promoted it better.
Posted by: katie Sylvestre | July 11, 2007 12:31 PM
PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH HIDDEN PALMS ITS GETTING MORE POPULAR WITHIN THE WEEKS IT WAS THE 5TH MOST SEARCHED CONTENT ON YAHOO SEARCH ENGINES!
SAVE HIDDEN PALMSSS!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2007 4:20 AM
PLEASE GIVE HIDDEN PALMS ANOTHER CHANCE YOU WON'T REGRET IT!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2007 4:10 AM
PLEASE DO NOT CANCEL HIDDEN PALMS GIVE IT ANOTHER CHANCE!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2007 4:05 AM
PLEASE DONT CANCEL HIDDEN PALMS!!!
GIVE IT ANOTHER CHANCE.. MAKE A SECOND SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: aleehsha | July 7, 2007 1:37 AM
Please dont cancel this show!! It's my favourite show and you can't just end it like that.. the last episode leaves the viewers hanging! PLEASE GIVE HIDDEN PALMS ANOTHER CHANCE MAKE A SECOND SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: andrea | July 7, 2007 1:35 AM
ok.. seriously..
ur crazy if u cancel this show..
the ending left every1 unclear and the ratinge are high.
y would u cancel sumtin thats such a big sucess?
i love the show..
much like i loved the oc and still love one tree hill.
my point is.
everyone loves this show, ur making money.... no reason to cancel it.
Posted by: nicole | July 6, 2007 12:00 AM
I can't believe that Hidden Palms is coming to an end, I and many others are very disappointed. I don't think that it is fair to cancel the show because it had way more potential if it was just given better promotion and a better premiere time such as in the fall. I know for a fact that Hidden Palms would have done WAY better than it did. There may have been low ratings but it premiered in the summer and that isn't very good. I feel that it isn't good to premiere a show in the summer because people are busy going places and doing things. In the summer people go on vacation and go places with friends, family, ect. leaving them with no time to sit at home and watch television. Also people have lives, they aren't going to sit home and watch television when they have opportunities to go out and have fun no matter how good the show.
The ratings were also low because of the marketing. I for one must say that the marketing was PRETTY bad. I mean I have only seen about two commercials for Hidden Palms compared to other shows that haven't even come out yet. I thought you needed to focus more on the shows that were already out and that were having difficulties with the ratings. I am Canadian so I think there should have been more commercials on Canadian channels as well. I thought there should have been more commercials ..not only on the CW channel but other channels as well to let viewers know about the show. I myself found out about the show on the third episode because of the marketing and I couldn't exactly catch up on everything because there are no repeats and tha episodes on the CW website are only for people who reside in the U.S.
I feel that there definately should be a second season not only because I am a fan and just happen to want one, but because the fact that the finale left all the viewers hanging. I felt it was unfair because the fans are now left hanging and wanting to know what happens, there were many questions that were left unanswered such as: Will Johnny ever find out who really killed Eddie?, How will Cliff and Nikki's relationship go?, How will Bob and Karen's relationship go?, and Exactly what did Liza hear Skip and Mrs.Nolan talking about?
Please keep Hidden Palms and give it a fair chance. If you just give it the promotion it needs and never got for the first season and if you give it a better time slot such as in the fall I am sure that you will not be disappointed and that the ratings will be least you have to worry about. I know that Hidden Palms has the potential, please just give it a second chance, don't let the fans down.
SAVE HIDDEN PALMS PLEASSEEEEE!
Posted by: olivia | July 5, 2007 11:57 PM
I think that this is a great show. I wasn't sure how it was going to be because of the the few advertisements, but this show definitely proved it's worth from the start. The acting is great and so is the plot. I love this show. Give it a chance to be a big hit like One Tree Hill and Gilmore Girls. I am also angry that Gilmore Girls was cancelled. Don't cancel an opportunity for a big hit! It looks like there are plenty of people out there who watch it, despite the lack of advertising. Keep Hidden Palms for a second season. It didn't even reach it's potential in 8 episodes!
Posted by: Nicole | July 5, 2007 11:09 PM
Hidden Palms is an amazing show please don't cancel it! It has way more potential and you would see that if you gave it better chances like better promotion and if it premiered in the fall!
PLEASE SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!!!
Posted by: alex | July 5, 2007 11:01 PM
DON'T DO THIS TO ALL THE FANS PLEASE SAVEE HIDDEN PALMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 5, 2007 10:59 PM
PLEASE SAVE HIDDEN PALMSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 5, 2007 10:57 PM
please don't take the show away it's not fair the promotion was crap! and the show would've done WAYYYYYY better with a fall premiere!
PLEASE GIVE KEVIN WILLIAMSON AND EVERYONE ELSE WITH HIDDEN PALMS ANOTHER CHANCE!!!
MAKE A SECOND SEASONNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: arthur | July 5, 2007 10:53 PM
Please you cant just take the show away like that! You left all the viewers hanging with the finale and that's not fair! Please just make a second season and have more promotions and it will work!!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MAKE A SECOND SEASON IT WON'T DISAPPOINT YOU!!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 5, 2007 10:48 PM
Oh my gosh you CANNOT cancel the show especially after the finale!!! It leaves us hanging and you can't just end the show leaving all the viewers hanging that would be a crappy ending. PLEASEEE YOU HAVE TO MAKE A SECOND SEASONN!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 5, 2007 10:44 PM
I think that since FOX took away the O.C. alot of the fan base tryed desperatley to find something, anything to fill they're teen drama. Many of us luckily found Hidden Palms, it's suspense, thrills, and many twists left us wanting more and more. The actors are all amazing and play their parts soo well that in some cases you're like "Oh wow, I really connect" and some parts you could only imagine what it would be like. There should have been alot more advertising for Hidden Palms, this show is very addictive and just what alot of kids were looking for! My parents even enjoy this show and they're in their early 40's, and they usually don't like the shows that I watch. If they cancel this show then they will probly be really loosing out. This show has alot of potential and already a great fanbase of followers going, as you can tell by the efforts taken by the fansite http://palms.svfan.com . Loosing Hidden Palms would just let many of us Teen Drama fans looking again for another show to fill it. I think after this season, many of us telling our friends and if they had more advertising this show could be the next, better, greater O.C. (If I do recall not many viewers watched season 1 O.C. But in it's middle seasons it was HUGE..) I think that Hidden Palms is amazing, personally my favortie new show right now, and if it does end up cancelled then I would be very upset, as would MANY MANY of it's fans.
Posted by: Cyndi Slobodian | July 5, 2007 8:04 PM
The CW got out what it put in to Hidden Palms. The network could not have expected better ratings or more viewership based on the amount of time and money (or lack thereof) it put into the show.
Although Hidden Palms was originally scheduled to be a midseason starter, the network kept delaying its premiere, putting it off until the dreariest viewing time of the tv season: summer.
Along with this unintelligent move to bury Hidden Palms out of sight and out of mind, the CW failed to successfully and persuasively advertise the show. Not one of the previews explained the setting, characters, or plotlines, and certainly did not display the suspense and intrigue with which writer Kevin Williamson riddled the show.
As many of my fellow fans have alluded to, the CW spent more advertising time and money on shows that were already hits or were not set to premiere until the fall. I have seen more ads for Gossip Girl than any other show, along with other future newcomers like the Monday-night comedy Reaper. I hope the CW knows that a Monday comedy schedule is not going to bring in many viewers. Thursday is comedy night. Always has and always will be, despite the CW's gallant efforts to avoid competition with other, more spectacular comedy line-ups like NBC's thursday-night show of The Office and My Name is Earl.
Returning shows such as One Tree Hill and ending shows such as Gilmore Girls have received far more attention by the CW than Hidden Palms as well. Dedicating more advertising to a show that already has a fairly solid fanbase like One Tree Hill is a waste of airtime. Few viewers opt to start watching a show four seasons in, especially if an enticing show like Hidden Palms is beginning during the summer. But few viewers ever knew of the existence of Hidden Palms. The same scenario applies to 7th Heaven and Gilmore Girls, both with series finales this year. Viewers do not tune in for the last episode of a series if they have not been consistently or attentively watching throughout the course of the show. I am not razzing on these other shows, no, for I myself am an avid fan of the regulars and am certain Gossip Girl will have its own merit. Yet the CW should have paid more to Hidden Palms as a plausible hit teen drama, putting in a better effort to promote the show. Writing it off as a failure before the season even started was a poor move by the network and a disappointment to those fans who have happened to catch a glimpse of this worthy show in its minute and neglected existence.
Posted by: Samantha | July 5, 2007 4:34 PM
OMG!!! you cant cancel hidden palm! give this show a chance and im sure its gonna be a hit like the oc and one tree hill but dont cancel it after only 8 episode! the shoew just started! continue the season or make an other one during this fall...imagine what it would be like if you continue it..you cant stop a serie whith that kind of final!! i sware give the sow another chance during this fall and its going to bea big succces!!
Posted by: ... | July 5, 2007 4:25 PM
I think Hidden Palms is one of the best shows on the cw. The cw doesn't give any shows enough time to get more ratings. It gives new shows less than a month then snatches it away. It had very little promoting unlike the new shows that look retarded that are coming. They need to give the show a chance promote it entirely more in all ways, magazines, tv -on other stations etc... They could be doing more instead of just taking the show off.
Please bring the show back!
Posted by: Brittney | July 5, 2007 4:11 PM
I think Hidden Palms is one of the best shows on the cw. The cw doesn't give any shows enough time to get more ratings. It gives new shows less than a month then snatches it away. It had very little promoting unlike the new shows that look retarded that are coming. They need to give the show a chance promote it entirely more in all ways, magazines, tv -on other stations etc... They could be doing more instead of just taking the show off.
Please bring the show back!
Posted by: Brittney | July 5, 2007 4:11 PM
i cant believe its over... it left me unclear.... why would it end so0 damn fast(a few episodes!! then the finale..on top of that series finale!!??)... i wouldve liked to know how cliff and nikki ended up thru time... what happened with skip, johnny and gretta... and so many other things that could have still been going on!.... i never missed an episode and would leave work early every wednesday just to0 see this show... i never watch any series shows but this one really caught my eye... i loved it!... i kant believe it.. i hope that it comes back for me and all the other fans!!...
Posted by: jesika | July 5, 2007 10:41 AM
Please bring back Hidden Palms. The CW did not give this show the opportunity it deserves. If Hidden Palms isn't given another chance, I won't be tuning into the CW at all anymore.
Posted by: Ellen | July 5, 2007 10:22 AM
Don't cancel Hidden Palms . This show is amazing, and the viewers are left in suspense after last night's episode .
I admit that I was an OC addict . When that ended I was crushed , so , when Hidden Palms came on, I was overwhelmed. I've always hated One Tree Hill, and thought that it should have been canceled way before the OC . But it didn't , so I was disappointed. Hidden Palms was kind of like a bounce back for me, it was exciting, suspenseful and very, very well written . I thought that this show could replace my addiction to the OC. And it did, for a very short time .
I'm not sure who to blame , I blame the CW for being so stabber about this, first of all . Second, I blame the time of year it came on, who watched TV in the summer !? Seriously , the show is amazing , it would have been a huge hit , if it was put on in the fall when people are actually watching TV, after a long day at school , or work . It's nice to watch your favorite show .
The ratings were bad because of the time of year , and I admit , the promotion itself was fairly poor . Don't take favorites when it come to promotion , if the show is on it's 4th season , and it's already half way through , how many people do you really think are going to watch the show ? About as many as have been watching it before . You don't tune in after half the season , it's absurd .
Did you even look at the word promotion . Such as .. before the motion . Hmm, if I was interested in finding a show to watch, I would watch for commercials, on TV , and if there is no commercial, I'm not going to watch the show ! This is all logic , and it pains me to say I’m appalled at the immaturity of this station . Never thought I’d say that , but I have and I’ll say much more if I have to .
I'm 15 I have an extremely large opinion, larger than many of you can grasp, I’m sure. Let this show stay, or risk losing them as viewers for the rest of your shows , it's your choice . Make a good one .
Posted by: Emily | July 5, 2007 9:08 AM
i think it was a great show. i think you guys did great. i wouldnt have cared what the title was. im just mad there isnt another season i think you should work on making anothere season. i know its gnna be worth it.perhaps you could've promoted it more. but i loved those comercials you guys made, they were creepy and fun. PLEASE BRING IT BACK!./. ths how i mean
Posted by: erick | July 5, 2007 8:59 AM
What I don't understand is how the CW expects Hidden Palms to do well when there promoting is so low. I have been waiting to see this show since smallvilles last season ended.
What better ways to promote the CW?
1. Take some time into advertising. It would be wonderful to see the CW work on some trailers to get people hyped up about Hidden Palms. Hidden Palms is that awesome show that would be a monster hit if people really knew about it. Maybe try and post commercials for Hidden Palms at the end or beginning or commercial breaks of other hit shows. That's a great way to get people going!
2. Look at palms.svfan.com. The website is phenomonal! The devotion to Hidden Palms is massive. Look away from the fact it doesn't have a heck of a lot of people - think, that could be because of the CW...
Just taking the time to look at their site, and promote, look, promote, look, promote...
3. Give Kevin Williamson and the rest of the crew a chance. A second season would be the bomb! Imagine Hidden Palms in high school. Just think of what could come to Hidden Palms later on!
4. If all else fails, and somehow no second season comes, then please, PLEASE, create a DVD of Hidden Palms. So many people would buy it and you'd be giving yourself a profit.
Consider the show. It's called Hidden Palms. Created by Kevin Williamson. It's got one heck of a lot of potential but isn't being given the chance to do so.
Comeon, the CW, comeon!
KEEP THIS GREAT SHOW!!!!
IT HAS SO MUCH TO GIVE.
1 season of 8 episodes are not enough to see if the show has bummed and next time promote it as much as all other shows
Belive me it will be alot better than that lame alien in america show or the it girl show
HIDDEN PALMS ROCKS!!!!!!
Posted by: Mario Miranda | July 4, 2007 9:31 PM
Hidden Palms is my favorite show please don't take it away. All my friends watch it too. It is the only good show that is on in the summer.
Posted by: Sam | July 4, 2007 8:49 PM
Such an amazing show that was practically thrown under a bus. Bad promotion, delaying the start, putting it on in summer, 2 episodes a week to make the end come nearer, finale of the entire thing after 8 episodes on FOURTH OF JULY. If the show didn't do as well as was hoped, it's all because of the network. It's a shame.. RIP hidden palms
Posted by: Lynn | July 4, 2007 6:08 PM
NOOO please don't take hidden palms away!!! It's my favourite show ever!!!
Posted by: Benjamin | July 4, 2007 1:40 PM
you guys cant cancel hidden palms!
i wont be able to live. its bad enough they had to cancel the OC, but not hidden palms. the show like just started and ur gonna end it? thats pretty dumb. its like my fav show now and if u take it off the air ill have nothing to watch. its a really good show and it was getting rly exciting but now im just sad.
PLESE PLEASE PLEASE DONT CANCEL IT! EVERYBODY WATCHS IT BEACAUSE ITS SO GOOD.
Posted by: daniella | July 3, 2007 9:47 PM
The only reason i found out about this show, had been through a couple of my friends who religiously watch the cw (otherwise i would have never found out). I fell in love with the first episode and knew it would be a great series to watch all summer. When i found out that the season finale was a single episode away, let alone the series finale, i was extremely disappointed and knew there must be a mistake. I don't think it was ever given a chance and it would probably have done 10 times better with a little more promotion on other channels. I wish i knew whether or not all these petitions and responses could make a difference, but this is probably the end...
I feel that once a network has ultimately decided on a series finale for a show, it's generally unchangeable, but hopefully for future shows they'll take into consideration more publicity because it clearly seems to be an issue.
Posted by: gabby | July 3, 2007 8:27 PM
Well first of all I really think they should have aired the show in the fall and NOT in the summer.In the summer people go and hang out with friends and go on vacation.. not sit at home and watch t.v. Secondly I have to say that the promotion for this show was extremely crappy ..I didn't watch the first couple episodes because I didn't even know that this show existed. I have only seen like 2 commercials for Hidden Palms and that sucks. And lastly I know they hardly had any commercials but the ones I did see gave everything away. They pretty much showed the whole next episode within those 1 or 2 minutes. I know that a lot of people would have loved this show like I do and I know it has way more potential. So I really think that there should be WAY more commercials for Hidden Palms it should be aired during a better part of the year and the commercials/trailers should be less revealing of the next episode. I would definately absolutely LOVE to see a second season .. please dont let all these Hidden Palms fans down we're really counting on you guys.
Posted by: adrienne | July 3, 2007 7:23 PM
just keep the damn show people. we love it.
Posted by: monica | July 3, 2007 7:05 PM
Wow i cant believe it's actually ending that's pretty dumb theres only been like 8 episodes i think there definately should be a second season. i can't believe your taking the show away .. main reason being the ratings thats dumb because there was like no marketing for the show, i found out by just going through channels looking for something interesting to watch. i mean i really like this show i watched every week. i stayed home when i could have gone out to watch this show and your taking it away. thats really unfair your worried about stupid ratings .. well maybe if you put it in a better slot i mean summer?!?! who puts an amazing new show on during the summer especially if theyre looking for high ratings? that idea was really dumb because during summer everyone is on vacation no one is going to sit at home to watch a t.v. show i know maybe if they really like it they would but you can't stop your life for a t.v. show you people need to get real if you really wanted high ratings you would have had way better marketing and you would have played this show in the fall or you could have at least waited for next year and you would've seen how much better the ratings would have been they would have been through the roof. so i would really like to see a second season and way better marketing if you just give hidden palms a second chance you will see that the least thing you'll have to worry about is the ratings.
Posted by: adelle | July 3, 2007 6:51 PM
I must say I am very disappointed that Hidden Palms is ending.Not only the season but the WHOLE series. I really love this show and I dont understand why it is coming to an end.. I mean the marketing was horrible I found out about this show on the fourth episode because of how bad the marketing is. And I have missed and episode because it's in the summer. This is a horrible slot for such an amazing show it has way more potential and I know that for a fact. During the summer people are busy, they have things to do and places to go. Also many people are on vacation so that makes it hard and I don't think you're going to want to sit inside watching a show while on vacation... I know i wouldn't want to. So please just have some better marketing and change the slot and I am sure you will have way more viewers than any of your other shows.
Posted by: arthur | July 3, 2007 6:21 PM
Ok I think this show had really shitty and I mean REALLY shitty marketing. I didnt even know about this show until the third episode and I only found out because I was bored out of my mind and was flipping through the channels. I aboslutely love this show and I think that A LOT of other people would too. Also I really think this show should be in the fall because during summer no one really gives a crap about t.v. unless they're bored and have nothing to do that day and what are the chances of that day being on a Wednesday. ANNDD in the summer everyone is on vacation or just hanging out all day with friends because that's what you're supposed to do during summer, not sit home and watch t.v. So I suggest that you guys get the show out there through way more commercials and billboards and stuff and put the show on in the fall and that way you'll notice that low ratings will no longer be an issue.
Posted by: olivia | July 3, 2007 6:11 PM
Pleas let there be a second season of hidden palms. I think it is a great show and`I havent missed a single episode yet. I fell that the CW is the only station that can carry a show like Hidden Palms.
Posted by: Amanda | July 3, 2007 4:23 PM
I feel let down by the lack of marketing for Hidden Palms. I think that CW has room for vast improvement when it comes to cross-channel marketing. I have watched two shows in the past: America’s Next Top Model and The Search for the next pussy cat doll...both had pretty good advertising. ANT has been around for a while now, so it sort of markets itself. The CW can market their shows on their channel all day long, but if a viewer is not watching their channel to begin with; well then what good is that? I only watched Hidden Palms originally because someone told me that someone from our city was on there. It is in extreme poor taste to run the finally on the fourth of July; that just shows their lack of commitment to the shows success!
There was a bit of over-acting in the first episode, but I feel they have really stepped their game up and it has improved.
I would like to see a second season.
Posted by: Sarah | July 3, 2007 3:17 PM
I simply can't believe iT...HIDDEN PALMS is the best SHOW ever....I was absolutely stunned to see it was the series finale...I just can't believe it!I agree with the people who said the cw didn't advertize the show at all....One night I just fell on the series premiere by accident and I automaticly thought it was the best show I had ever watched In my whole fucking life...cw sucks real bad they don't listen to what fans have to say....HEY WAKE UP CW' WITHOUT US' YOU WOULD BE NOTHING....i love the actors, the show, the atmosphere the plot....damn this whole show is a total Succcess don't punish us for your marketing lacks....
Posted by: malika cherry | July 3, 2007 2:50 PM
I am a really big fan of Hidden Palms. I don't want the show to end. I like the suspense because it leaves me wanting to see more. I count the days until I get to Wednesday because I can't wait to see what happends next on Hidden Palms. So please don't cancel hidden palms because I love it and I know a lot of people out there love this tv show too.
Posted by: Jessica | July 3, 2007 2:53 AM
Wow! I never watch this kind of show, but I stumbled onto it and next thing I knew I couldn't wait until the next week to find out more. I have really gotten hooked on this one. Lets see more.
Great acting and writing.
Posted by: j Hord | July 2, 2007 10:49 PM
Hidden Palms is the only show that is really a good show, in my opinion. I think that the marketting is the cause for the "low" ratings. I would be greately dissappointed if Hidden Palms would get cancelled.
Posted by: Fernando | July 2, 2007 4:17 PM
The CW, in my opinion, has lacked the ability to promote their shows from the second the WB and UPN merged together. If the CW really knew how good of a show Hidden Palms is then maybe they would of done it differently, we will never know. What is becoming apparent is that the CW is trying to push Gossip Girl and Reaper on their new fall lineup but I for one WILL NOT TUNE IN IF HIDDEN PALMS DOES GET CANCELLED.
Hidden Palms should of been on in the fall, this summer slot just sucks for the show not to mention the con that was cooked up by the CW to get this show over and done with. The CW needs to keep this show because it will be a hit soon.
Putting Hidden Palms after an establish series like OTH would be a smart move but the CW isn't that intelligent it seems.
Well, CW it looks like you just lost another viewer if you dont give Hidden Palms the respect it deserves.
Here is some advice: Listen to the fans because the fans are always right. If you don't believe me then maybe this will help the fans are the ratings and without the ratings YOU ARE NOTHING!!!!!
Posted by: Paul | July 1, 2007 9:56 PM
Okay it's the summer and a lot of shows i have watched over the years have mostly come to an end so i have been looking for new shows to get into and on the CW that was definately Hidden Palms. It just hooked me in from the first episode and searching the net i find nothing but people with good things to say about it. I think it has great potental and would be a great series. I know me and people i would know would tune in every week for sure. So I say SAVE Hidden Palms. Bring it back for season 2 do some good promotion and just watch the following start in a big way.
Posted by: Jeremy | July 1, 2007 6:30 PM
Save Hidden Palms! I LOVE this show.
I watch the CW all the time, but now you canceled Veronica and Gilmore Girls. And now Hidden Palms, you must save it.
You picked the worst time for tv to air it. May and June people are just starting to end school or go on vacations. In the fall it would be a lot more popular. This is my favorite show, it is very addicting.
Posted by: vicky | July 1, 2007 2:43 PM
I just started to feel happy that there was another good show like my favourite-"Veronica Mars", and all of a sudden i read that the CW are going to cancel it. What's up with that. For the first time in my life am i seing something this stupid being done-a show which started only a month ago is already gone. That's weak. The CW started cancelling every good show which was on, i just can't explain it:( So please think about it- give"Hidden palms" another chance.Otherwise this network is going to loose a lot more fans.
Posted by: Ani | July 1, 2007 2:42 PM
To be honest, The CW doesn't do well when it comes to their promotion. Maybe for America's Next Top Model and The Pussycat Dolls show. Those are their only two possible good, rating shows they have on The CW. It goes to prove that The CW fails when it comes to promotion for sure!
But what I also think Hidden Palms is struggling is because of summer, of course! Everyone's busy when it comes to summer, so it's such a bad idea to air a show during the summer, I mean who the heck would watch it? Of course I will, but it's ridiculous! And what also proves my point is the series finale ending on July 4th! Who would watch an episode during that timing? And everyone knows everyone will be tuning in the fireworks instead of the series finale of Hidden Palms. The definetly, without a doubt, should've aired the episode during the fall. It's not our fault, it's The CW's fault, etc. with the network.
Posted by: Joanne | July 1, 2007 12:43 AM
I have never missed an episode of Hidden Palms. What captured my attention was the fact that each character had different layers and in each episode you would see a whole new side of them. The plot is also very good. It's suspenseful and leaves the viewers wanting more (at least that was for me). It probably would have done much better in the Fall season, and if it were promoted longer. I think i heard about it a week or so before it started on the CW.
Posted by: Ruby | June 30, 2007 11:45 PM
Hidden Palms is one of the best shows I ever seen in my entire life! I love it! It's amazing! Please dont get rid of Hidden Palms cuz it will never be the same without it on any channel. Why not change to new network like ABC Family cuz that channel pretty much gives out teens shows..u have noticed that, have you?? SO PLEASSSSSSSSSSE SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!!!!!! :(:(:(
Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2007 11:39 PM
Hidden Palms rocks. It needs to have a second season. The CW needs to give it a chance. It has not been on long enough and the cast needs to do interviews and promotion. It's my new favorite show. Thanks for a wonderful show. christin
Posted by: Christin Lathrop | June 30, 2007 10:38 PM
please please please keep hidden palms going i watch it online all the time and i couldnt believe it was going to be the series finally....im going to cry!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: amanda | June 30, 2007 10:26 PM
Now...i love hidden palms. I think its a really interesting show and its good for teenagers, and it teaches you different things that could happen if you get involved in other peoples affairs. Please dont cancel it!
Posted by: Lianne | June 30, 2007 3:56 PM
AHH! you can't cancel hidden palms! its like the only show i ever watch on tv! :(.. and i barely even watch tv, but this caught my eye!.. PLEASE DONT CANCEL IT!!
Posted by: steph | June 30, 2007 4:42 AM
I think this show would of done a lot better if they showed it in the fall. Because not very many teens and adults watch television during the summer and I think it was very dumb to show it during the summer. Also I think the CW didn't really promote the show they only really promoted the show for a month. They should of promoted it for 3 months like they are doing the fall shows. Many of my friends when I asked them "Did you watch Hidden Palms" most of them didn't even know what i was talking about and they watch the CW network all the time. So CW please just give Hidden Palms another chance and promote it more and this will be the biggest hit!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Joshua | June 29, 2007 7:02 PM
I watch hidden palms on Tv all the time went it was on. I think the CW network is cancel the best show on TV right now for young people to watch. I think them should give another chance to Hidden palms to do better. If not the CW should get cancel from the been a network on TV.
Posted by: Joseph workman | June 29, 2007 6:00 PM
KEEP HIDDEN PALMS GOING PLEASE!
its become my favorite show this summer.
i am really enjoying it!
SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!
Posted by: jill | June 29, 2007 5:44 PM
I love this show and all of its characters...especially cliff;)! Please keep it going for another season. Schedule it in the fall when teens have more routine and can keep up with the show. Promote it more and I definitely think it could be a hit!
Posted by: Corryn | June 29, 2007 2:54 PM
My only salvation from the devastating loss of Veronica Mars was the inception of Hidden Palms. Well written and acted, this is actually a teen drama for us mystery lovers to sink our teeth into. It just needs a chance. Cancelling now would be in extremely poor form after such a limited amount of episodes, brilliant episodes, were aired. Step it up, CW. SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!!!
Posted by: Lisa Goins | June 29, 2007 2:51 PM
Hidden palms has got to the best show this summer. it has a little bit of everything in it. i dont understand why it has to go off air. it is a huge mistake for CW to do this. as you can see there are many upset fans, which just goes to show how many people really enjoyed the show. it is a shame.and i think that the CW should definitly reconsider.
Posted by: Brianna | June 29, 2007 1:40 PM
Hidden palms has got to the best show this summer. it has a little bit of everything in it. i dont understand why it has to go off air. it is a huge mistake for CW to do this. as you can see there are many upset fans, which just goes to show how many people really enjoyed the show. it is a shame.and i think that the CW should definitly reconsider.
Posted by: Brianna | June 29, 2007 1:36 PM
Please, CW, don't cancel Hidden Palms! It's rare that I find a television show I enjoy as much as I do this one.
Posted by: Brooke | June 29, 2007 10:00 AM
Why on earth would they take away such a good show? it finally got really good, and things were looking up. I expected it last more than just a few episodes! This is seriously not fair.
Posted by: LP | June 29, 2007 3:51 AM
Give it a CHANCE the show is BIGGER AND BETTER than the OC ever will be and it is the BEST show on TV and if the CW decides to cancel one of there BEST shows yet they are just asking to be on the chopping block!!!!!!
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Posted by: Kyle Brager | June 29, 2007 2:47 AM
My husband and I are recovering from the OC ax and now we FINALLY found a show that has some staying power. Please keep Hidden Palms going so good shows with good casts stay on the air. Thanks!!!!
Posted by: Carolyn Sickles | June 29, 2007 2:13 AM
you have to keep hidden palms on the air, it is the only thing i looked forward too, i love the show!!!!!
Posted by: gina | June 29, 2007 1:12 AM
I LOVE THIS SHOW SUCH MYSTERY AND SUSPENSE! ITS REALLY A GREAT SHOW MORE PPL NEED TO GIVE IT A CHANCE CAUSE ITS TWISTS AND TURNS ARE VERY EXCITING! :) GREAT SHOW REALLY WANT A SECOND SEASON!!!!!! PLEASE!
Posted by: roberta | June 28, 2007 11:17 PM
pleasse don't cancel! i haven't been intrested in a sho like this in a long time. you can't just do that to poeple. get them intrested in the characcters, storry and plot and then pull out? LAME
Posted by: mccall | June 28, 2007 11:09 PM
Once again another show not being given a good chance.. no wonder nothing lasts everything is made to just dispose..SAD SAD SAD!!!!! Shame on CW for not working harder to push a good show - with a STELLAR cast!
Posted by: Eric | June 28, 2007 8:45 PM
once again, the CW disappoints. First they chopped the head off Veronica Mars, now Hidden Palms. MY friends and i watch Hidden Palms religiously, and we think it has the potential to be the next O.C or OTH. We need good shows like this, not more sitcoms and reality shows. People want variety.
Posted by: merissa | June 28, 2007 3:29 PM
Bring this show back for a season two and learn from your promotional errors.
Posted by: Gary | June 28, 2007 3:27 PM
THIS SUCKS HIDDEN PALMS IS PRETTY AMAZING WHAT THE HELL IS THE REAPER AND ALIENS IN AMERICA. I MEAN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE FALL I MEAN ITS SUMMER AND THE AGE GROUP ITS FOR IS OUT EVERY NIGHT THEIRS NO TIME FOR T.V. BUT IN THE FALL IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER ITS THAT PERFECT COMBO OF VERONICA MARS AND ONE TREE HILL2 SHOW THAT HAVE DONE WELL FOR THIS NETWORK.I THINK THEY SHOULD TRY IT AGAIN AFTER ONE OF THOSE SHOW COUGH *THE REEPER* IS CANCELLED .
Posted by: CASS | June 28, 2007 1:37 PM
I completely agree with Kevin Williamson - I love this show and it has so much potential. I feel for him because he is a genius and was not at all given a chance. My friends don't even know this show exists; I know about it because I go on the CW website to read OTH stuff and I saw it on there once. I love OTH & HP but The CW is the worst network ever.
Posted by: Amy | June 28, 2007 1:16 PM
The CW could have promoted the show A LOT better and they also should have put it on after OTH not before. If it was on after more people would leave it on and see what a great show it really is.
Posted by: Katie | June 28, 2007 12:50 PM
I love this show. The CW should give this show a chance for a second season!
Posted by: Katrina | June 28, 2007 12:50 PM
This show keeps getting better and better. But if no-one knows it's on how can they watch?
Let's get real and give Hidden Palms a chance CW!
Stop cutting the heads off of shows too early. This isn't VM and this isn't it's 3rd season!
We want and deserve better from you!
Save Hidden Palms
palms.svfan.com
Posted by: Capadona80 | June 28, 2007 12:40 PM
One Tree Hill is a big hit now right. Did people start watching it right away i doubt it u have to give the show a chance more and more people are starting to watch it now u can't just end it after 8 shows there has to be more than 1 season and i think the CW could have done more about promoting the show. This is also one of the best shows ever and there has to be a second season.
Posted by: Amanda | June 28, 2007 11:30 AM
Hidden palms is one of the best shows i have ever watched. it needs to have a second season.
Posted by: abby | June 28, 2007 11:27 AM
SAVE HIDDEN PALMS.. it's probably one of the best shows CW has ever come out with.. it could probably get bigger than One Tree Hill!! Give it a chance!
Posted by: Sara | June 28, 2007 10:37 AM
I love the show, and watch it every Wednesday. You can't cancel it yet!!!
Posted by: Sarah | June 28, 2007 10:27 AM
i love hidden palms...u cannot end it after 7 episodes..if u had done a better job promoting it,people would watch it..give it a chance it really has much potential on becoming a really successful show
Posted by: Kate | June 28, 2007 9:56 AM
PS
Cliffy is Hot and I'll be following him on this show or where ever else he goes! He and Greta are the reason I watch!
Posted by: Deb | June 28, 2007 9:08 AM
PLEASE bring Hidden Palms back! It was not the greatest start for me but NOW it's getting good! I want to see MORE!
Posted by: Deb | June 28, 2007 9:00 AM
I think that the CW did a terrible job promoting this show and maybe if it got more commercials or ads then we would have attracted more viewers. I think that it should be given a second chance and given a secon season to grow into an even more AMAZING show! This isnt like any other show on T.V today which makes it scary to some people becuase they dont want to stray away from normal. But i think that if they gave hidden palms a chance they would see that it is an even more awesome show then what they normaly watch becuase it is totally original! It hasnt been givin a fair chance with only having eight episodes which is why it NEEDS to have a season two!
Posted by: Andrea | June 28, 2007 8:37 AM
Hidden palms is a great show and they need to see how it would fair in the fall schedule or midseason, no one watches tv in the summer.
but as you can tell by all the fansites, clearly people love the show.
the nielson media research is outdated and the fansites dont lie!!
please bring it back!!!
Posted by: Graham Post | June 28, 2007 4:33 AM
I also started watching the show late because of the poor advertising. My friends didn't know about the show until I told them. I think if The CW gives Hidden Palms a second season they won't regret it.
Posted by: Rmac | June 28, 2007 12:43 AM
Hidden Palms is the best show ever. The only reason its not successful is because the cw didnt advertise. yes its the CW's fault! Way to go CW! Maybe you should advertise your shows and they would work out better. Hidden Palms has the perfect mix of love and scandal. I mean seriously its one of the best shows you've got in your dumb lineup. SAVE HIDDEN PALMS!
Posted by: Kimmy | June 28, 2007 12:39 AM
I didn't really know about Hidden Palms up until I saw the first episode on MTV. I don't think I even remember seeing advertisements for it. Maybe there were but I didn't notice them. Sorry. Man am I sorry. I'm officially hooked. I can't wait to see what's going to happen next. I can't believe they are going to cut it. I think it's a really great show. The mystery ans suspense are great and the teen drama is so entertaining. I really hope the show will stick around. I like having something to watch on wednesdays.
What's with the CW getting rid of the shows I like. First Gilmore Girls and now Hidden Palms. It's a shame. I don't like any of the other shows on this network. Anyway, I vote that Hidden Palms stay on the air.
Posted by: Maria V. | June 28, 2007 12:29 AM
Hidden Palms is a great show. The mystery story line that other teen drama's are lacking is interesting and makes me want to come back each week. Here is a better idea...instead of cancelling the show bring it back in the fall instead of OTH...that show is lame.
Posted by: Holly | June 27, 2007 11:10 PM
Dear CW,
Why would you get us hooked on HP on rip the rug out from under us? The story is just getting started and you want to end it! You will lose many loyal CW fans if you pull the plug! You did away with Gilmore Girls and now you are taking HP away, what next 7th heaven, oh wait you took that away already!!!!! Get it right and get rid of the not so great shows that you have and keep the good ones!
Posted by: Courtney | June 27, 2007 11:08 PM
hidden palms is the next great show. i love the charecters and enjoy the show alot. i always watch it with my buds. please dont cancel it!
Posted by: john | June 27, 2007 11:00 PM
I started watching Hidden Palms from the first episode, but only because I stumbled upon it. I saw a preview just before it aired, and was instantly hooked. I wish the network would have upped its promos much sooner, like it is doing for the new fall season. The CW is already airing promos for "Gossip Girl" left and right, and that doesn't come out for more than a month or so.
What if the network played a mini-marathon one night? And then continued the next season during the fall line-up, say following "Gossip Girls". Both relate to a teen audience, interested in drama.
Please rethink the decision of canceling "Hidden Palms". Even if it is taken this off the network, its substitute will only be a rerun of another series, whose ratings can't be any better. Give it a full season's chance, and I have faith that the show will take off with proper marketing.
Posted by: Emily | June 27, 2007 10:57 PM
I am too upset to say all thats on my mind, but I think this show needs another chance. I mean, for being on during the summer in the same time slot as some pretty popular shows such as "So you think you can dance", i think it has proved itself pretty well. It should be brought back in the fall and I am almost 100% sure you would see a difference.
Please don't let something with so much potential go. I think you owe it to the writers, the actors and of course the fans.
Its such a shame to see something so amazing go down the drain. ;[
Posted by: Samantha | June 27, 2007 10:37 PM
I LOVE THE SHOW...IT WAS THE ONE SHOW I ACTUALLY GOT INTO< SO MUCH I NEVER DO ANYTHING ON WEDNESDAY!!!! PLEASE DO NOT CANCEL THE SHOW JUST ADVERTISE MORE!!!!!
Posted by: Stephanie | June 27, 2007 10:04 PM
Jimmy..the person who runs the fansite, literally, took the words from my mouth. I COMPLETELY agree!!
Goodness.
Okay, I've been a huge fan of Hidden Palms since day one. I watched the first episode, I fell in love. Second, third..then I come to tonight's episode to see an advertisement for the SERIES Finale? NEXT WEEK?!?!
What the hell?!?
I'm the type of person who's pretty picky about shows that I like, but if there's one thing I'm good at it's picking a good show to watch. I never found out about Hidden Palms until the day of the airing of the Pilot episode. I had no idea it existed, and basically almost no one that I know knew it existed. I posted bulletins about it constantly on myspace, would tell everyone I could get a word to about it (and I mean this literally) and some people actually would watch it. And guess what? THEY LIKED IT! Yeah, they did, but the terrible part is that those I couldn't get to still didn't know that it existed. I have yet to see an advertisement for Hidden Palms ANYWHERE, EVER! Shouldn't that be a problem considering that fact that it's brand new and needs advertise?
Another issue I have is the trailers that did air.
Since when do trailers spoil the suspense of the next week's show?
Trailers are supposed to get you to watch, not get you to think, "Oh man. I wish I didn't see that. Now I know what happens!"
Point being, the quantity and quality of the adverisement that was given was lousy. The fact that it's being canceled after only this many episodes is crap.
It's pretty sad that a show with so much potential was never even given a realistic chance.
Posted by: Sarah Gray | June 27, 2007 9:51 PM