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If at least half of you watched an interview that the writer had, then you would have realized that he said that he could definitely say that not only were Dean and Sam not going to end up with these girls but the girls are more or less antagonists.

I wanted the girls on Supernatural. This is just my personal opinion but I dont see why you guys wouldnt want girls on Supernatural. I mean I liked Jo, everybody hated her and I am shocked at that. Jo is awesome. What other options are there for your disaproval other then jealousy? I think that Alona Tal did an AMAZING job as Jo and I wish that the writers would keep her on but obviously some fans are having troubles with that. I always say that the writes are going to lose fans either way because if they take Jo off, some people may stop watching it and if they keep her on people may stop watching it so why not chose the side that has the rational reason, the side that wants her to stay on because not only did Dean and Jo connect really well but they are perfect for each other. I do not think that it is fair that they take her off just like that because some fans grew to like her gradually. You cant just make Dean connect with someone that good just to kick her off, thats kind of messed up. Thats just my personal opinion so please dont take it the wrong way.

I don't even have much else to add because everyone before me has said it all. ALMOST NO ONE WANTS THESE GIRLS ON THERE!!! We are not saying it because we are "jealous" or anything like that. Its because we love the show the way it is already! That is what makes it special. They have plenty of people they interact with in each town. They do not need "sidekicks". I watch plenty of soap operas and I get my relationship fixes there. Supernatural is different. That is why you have such loyal followers. Some shows do not need a change. There doesn't have to be chemistry with women on this show for it to be good.

Okay, when I first heard the news about these new characters, I tried to be hopeful about it. Then I read the sides. What. The. Hell?

"The show's about the relationship between two brothers, not a relationship drama..." Yeah, I had to laugh at this once I got over gagging at the side for Sam and Ruby. I honestly doubt I could have disliked her more. I swear, the descriptions given for the new hunters read to me like bad female versions of Sam and Dean. We get far more likeable and believable female guest and recurring characters - in my opinion, these new Marysues are not needed, or appreciated. Especially not as regulars, as I don't see how that's going to work, because there is no way I'm putting up with them travelling in the Impala.

Please, let Supernatural run as Kripke intends and the fans enjoy. Don't ruin a good thing.

TWO REGULAR FEMALE HUNTERS IS A BAD IDEA...JUST LIKE BABY FACE JO WAS A BAD IDEA. MR. ERIC KRIPKE S HEAD HAS GOTTEN TOO BIG SINCE SN SEASON TWO. LETS HOPE THAT THE CW GIVES SN FANS A SEASON 4 AND THEN CALL IT AN END TO SUPERNATURAL .

Jessica - People are allowed to express their opinions and they should be allowed to do so without being called a vulgar name. So, why don't *you* stop judging people and just present your opinions in a professional and classy manner?

Also, you state that, and I quote, "Plus if you really are Supernatural fans you would know that Kripke did a Q&A and said that Bela and ruby would only be in scattered shows. Like Bobby or Ellen for example."

First of all, just because I question Kripke & Co. and their decisions, that does not mean I am not a Supernatural fan. Second, Kripke stated in an interview that each girl could be in 12 episodes. *That* is way more than Ellen and/or Bobby.

My main issue is not so much with the two new characters themselves, it's with the fact that they could be in over half of the season's episodes, and considering that Kripke also said, in that same interview, that the two girls aren't necessarily in the same episodes, that could mean we could have one of these characters in most of the 22 episodes this season.

Yes, I know there are a lot of "coulds" in the above sentence, and, to me, that's enough to concern me with the possibilities, especially considering we're talking about The CW.

I will watch the new season with my fingers crossed, and hopefully, there will similar highs as in Season 2, but I also feel there will be similar lows as in Season 2...again, though, hopefully, the highs will outweigh the lows.

ppl lets just wait to see what happens with the new season. i'm sure it won't be all that bad. i love supernatural as much as anyone, so i'm staying neutral.

First of all people stop judging Ruby & Bela! You haven't even seen what their characters are like. Second Don't judge Kripke!!! When has he ever failed us. He took a lot of big risk like destroying the Impala and killing John. This is just another one of those times. they need a twist in the show to keep us watching. Plus if you really are Supernatural fans you would know that Kripke did a Q&A and said that Bela and ruby would only be in scattered shows. Like Bobby or Ellen for example. Plus, a fan asked if the show would turn into something like One Tree Hill with monsters? Kripke said (and i quote) " I would rather put a pistol in my mouth than let that happen." SO MAYBE YOU ALL SHOULD SEARCH MORE THAN ONE SITE BEFORE YOU START JUDGING KRIPKE'S DECISIONS!!!!! ASSHOLES

yeah, if Dean could have a kid, why not John? He had 22 years of life on the road, don't tell me he lived the life of a saint?

i really dont like the whole changing the show around with the women and im pretty sure everybody agrees with me. i think that itll get pretty awkward for the guys if they had women around and it would rouin the whole show. they would start acting differantly and wouldent be able to do thier job. i think that if they had one girl that was younger than them that they couldnt exactly have a realation ship with would be pretty cool like a sister that they didnt know they had that was like 15 years old or something.now that would be cool

So why do these new hunters have to be women?? Why can't they be too men? No because the CW wants to destroy their best asset. Sigh! Goodbye the SN we know and love. Thanks CW

i am definitely not keen on this... why do they have to change the way the show is?

Someone wake me from this nightmare!!!

quote from my husband (also a huge fan of the show)

"I like the show just the way it is, why do they have to change something that works so well?"

I jus really hope they dont turn the focus from the brothers relationship and make the show about love intrests etc. Supernatural is a rare treasure and i think i would feel more reassured if they were just re-occuring roles and i hope they arent going to be in every episode. I really hope this show does not go downhill because at the moment it is my favourite thing on TV.

There may be hope yet if they chop off Katie's golden locks and outfit her in the most ragged of checked shirts from the Salvation Army.

So the prerequisite skeletal blonde has now been cast (surprise!)... wonder what the skinny brunnette will look like? :-/ And of all of the thousands of skeletal blondes in Hollywood, this is the BEST they could do?!?! (Sorry Ms. Cassidy, no disrespect meant) How can a female hunter be kick-a** when she looks like she can barely lift her own perfume bottle? o_O (**sighs, bangs head on desk**)

I was in the camp of "wait and see what happens". With the recent casting news, I have moved camp to the definitely NO. Bring back the class show that Supernatural is without girl hunters!!

I read every post here under mine; a number of them resonated with me and what I've been feeling and thinking about this issue (sometimes very strongly). Rather than reiterate what the posters said--especially since several did so more eloquently that I ever could--I will simply point out selective posts I believe should be checked out if one does not want to spend the several hours I did perusing all of them.

(Decending down this page from here, memorable posts in bold)
Jasmine
Katie, July 10
Melanie
DJ
Casey
Bryan
Mark
Scifidiva
Katie, July 2
Becca
Sugarnatural
Agla
Emily
blue
naughty, June 27
Janet From SF
naughty
Marsha
Katie
Julia
justdreamin
jas
Barbara Ann Morehouse
Amy
liz
Andrea
A
Sarah
Merideth
Chandra
Julie, second June 17 listing
BoC
Jen

While I'm still quite warily apprehensive about the news, I do feel a little better than I did when I came here to post. Sparsely scattered among the overwhelming number of negative posts, I did find a few posts with some useful information and insightful suggestions. These ideas helped me see how the new characters could be successfully integrated into the show. (Could be.)

But I'm worried because I love this show as it is now. If I had to choose just one television show to watch from all of the shows I have ever seen in my entire life, and I could never watch another show again, I would instantly and hands-down pick Supernatural.

Several people brought up the old "IF IT'S NOT BROKE DON'T FIX IT" adage, but this situation brings to my mind another, seemingly more accurate saying: "if it ain't broke, fix it until it is." However, I don't want to fly off the handle or make wild speculations about who is mandating these changes or what will happen because of them. I will give these characters a chance.

I am willing to see how everything develops before I come down firmly on one side or the other. I did the same with Jo and ended up liking her, more than most. (Though I guess that's because (A)I didn't get very invested in the early, spoiler details about her character and story plans and (B)fans' fervent complaining ultimately changed where they went with her, for the better.)

But my biggest fear is because these female characters will be regulars, it will ultimately push the boys aside and change the brotherly focus and dynamic established at the start of the show. I would feel better if they were merely new recurring characters. Kripke & Co., PLEASE tread carefully with how you introduce and use them; don't destroy our beloved Supernatural by deviating from its core premise.

And for God sakes CW, start PROMOTING THE HELL OUT OF THIS SHOW!!

CW, the competition for viewers is much rougher than it's ever been before. Gone are the days when a dearth of available channels allowed network execs to call all the shots and got away with it. The real power now is with the viewers, many of whom have more than a hundred channels to choose from and a vast internet through which they can let their opinions be known--not only to networks, critics, and advertisers, but to other viewers. Why do you think major networks like ABC and CBS are listening to fans and acting on their demands? They can't afford not to. Execs at major networks know that vocal fans are just the tip of the iceberg, expressing the same reactions millions of silent viewers and potential viewers share. When fans spoke out against what was happening in shows like "Lost" and "Grey's Anatomy," network executives paid attention. They knew what they were hearing were the first rumblings of disaster.

So listen, CW. Listen to Jasmine and the other people on this site and dozens of "Supernatural" boards. You've got a damned good thing in this series--the best show on your network, as most regular viewers agree. They're on the other side of that screen, and they've warned you again and again that you're making a suicidal mistake by trying to turn this charming, ingenious, profoundly moving series into a cheap carnival sideshow. For network execs to make their decisions based on the belief that a series can up its ratings by expanding its cast to include little twenty year old girls firing weapons and shaking their T&As isn't only insulting to the viewing public, it's extremely bad business. Most viewers today are rapidly becoming bored with steamy sex and hot chicks who kick ass; they want shows with more depth and substance. You don't believe me? Take a look at 90% of the posts on this site. Even the youngest writers evidence far more mature and sophisticated taste than your network gives them credit for. Besides, if trash TV were still fashionable, the CW wouldn't be on the bubble.

"Supernatural" has one of the strongest cult followings in television history because it's a road show, centering on TWO MEN whose hunts are based on actual legend, lore, and myth. Regular female heroes don't belong in this series. An ensemble cast WILL NOT WORK. Need proof? Look at what happened with the roadhouse crew, and they weren't even regulars. As early as last summer, the protests went up from fans who knew a roadhouse base and recurring females could sink the series. Did you listen? No. You shoved the new characters down viewers' throats. The result? What should have been SN's and the CW's strongest episodes of the season were among its weakest. The ratings were poor, new viewers weren't drawn in, and the show never entirely recovered from that abysmal fall start. I guarantee you, expand SN's cast to include two twenty something female versions of Sam and Dean, and SNs ratings will dip lower than ever before. And if you're figuring, why not give it a try? We can always remedy a mistake later, you'll be just as wrong this season as you were last. By the end of the first month of a season, audiences have established their viewing habits, usually for the rest of the year. They don't like playing catch-up, and they don't like change. It's tough to get them into the tent, but it's harder than hell to coax them out.

The CW is acting like a one-term politician who became so consumed with the idea of attracting new supporters, he forgot those who put him in office. If you expand "Supernatural's" cast to include female heroes, you WILL LOSE many fans of the show. An insignificant loss? Hardly. I'll give you an example. In a TV.Com poll for best science fiction series, the highly publicized "Heroes" got approximately 8,000 votes. "Supernatural"? Almost a million and a half. Nominated in two categories, it utterly demolished the competition in both. In fact, "Supernatural" wins practically every poll it appears on--thanks to its enormously powerful and dedicated fanbase. And, like that of the original "Star Trek," this fanbase is made up of people of all ages from all walks of life: they include mechanics, scientists, construction workers, housewives, househusbands, beauticians, medical doctors and nurses, college professors, business people, writers, students, musicians, artists, etc. who have one thing in common: their fascination with "Supernatural" as it was originally designed. Don't underestimate these fans. They're an intelligent, deep-thinking lot. If they wanted T&A, they'd watch "Grey's Anatomy," not "Supernatural." Alienate them by introducing female heroes and they'll more than likely take their fury out on the CW. They won't watch or promote your new fall shows. And they'll discourage others from doing so because YOU will have taken from something they treasure--something they argue over, rejoice in, and look forward to week after week. In a world of hardship, that's no small thing. Change the formula of your finest show and your new ones will fail in the ratings. Before long, your advertisers will slip away and by the end of next season, that bubble could collapse.

Sure, your kickass female hunters may draw in a scattering of adolescent males for an episode or two, but, before long, they'll be surfing for greater titillation than your network can offer. In the meantime, you'll have lost your mainstay--those dedicated "Supernatural" fans who are bringing the network more publicity and more new viewers than it can ever draw on its own.

You're fighting for your life here, CW. Be faithful to your viewers, and we'll help you.

I am not sure about the actress they picked, but not surprise that they selected someone that young. CW is determined to prove that women over 25 are not attractive enough or tough enough to be selected. I wish Supernatural was on SciFi channel, I think they would get more respect or least select actresses with talent instead of just looks and age. I want to believe that they know what they are doing but CW has a bad track record. Maybe the actress who plays Bella will look athletic, over 25 and maybe even a brunette. Nah, I doubt that, CW will just pick another skinny, teenage looking blonde for the part. I really love Jensen and Jared, they are the only reason I watch this network. WHEN SUPERNATURAL IS GONE I WILL NO LONGER WATCH CW!

My family watches this show together. I have two teens ( a 16 yr old boy and a 14 yr old girl) and this is one of the few shows that we all really enjoy. We really liked the characters Andy, Ellen and Bobby that were featured last season and had been hoping to see more of them. My daughter and I were hoping to see Ellen kick some demon ass of her own! We don't have a problem with adding characters - male or female- as long as they are believable and interesting. So you can imagine how disappointed we were to see Andy die and to hear that the Ellen character will not be around much. Then to hear that there would be two "hot" female regulars. We were immediately worried that CW was going for the slick T & A of many other shows.
None of us enjoy the glossy, phony teen dramas that are filled with super skinny, super made-up "fake girls" (as my son calls them) and it is extremely disappointing to see that one of the super skinny "fake girls" is being cast on a show that we have enjoyed so much. I mean no disrespect to Katie Cassidy, as I cannot imagine the pressure that a young actress faces today to be super skinny and super blonde. I'm sure that she's very talented and hopefully as she matures she will feel more free to look like herself and not one of the blonde clones. But on Supernatural? Oh please, say it's not so! I have a hard time believing that there were no hispanic actresses, asian actresses, african american actresses, etc... that were talented and available. But no....evidently there are only white, skinny, blonde actresses auditioning for parts. We were disappointed enough to hear the news that Supernatural was adding two female hunters as regulars. But we were trusting Mr. Kripke to make it more than T & A crap. Sadly, after hearing about the casting... it becomes much more difficult to trust. We are sooooo tired of watching blonde chickies running around the screen! And this is true for my son and daughter as well! We've been joking tonight that Barbie and Skipper will be joining the boys in the world of the Supernatural this fall. Not good....not good at all. Please re-think this decision and if you need/want to make additions...make them diverse, realistic, and rich.

Katie Cassidy? You've got to be kidding me. Katie Cassidy is the kick-ass demon hunter that's going to make Dean and Sam look like the Hardy Boys? Wow, what's wrong with that picture? I'll tell you what.
Exactly what I was afraid would be wrong with it. Hunter!Barbie strikes again. Another petite blond tough chick.
Could somebody PLEASE explain to the casting people at the CW that Buffy being a petite little bit of vampire bait was kind of, you know, a joke? The show's bit a whimsical irony. And that she kicked ass because of the power of the slayer, not because she was coiffed and wearing fashionable boots?
Get a clue, please CW, before you mess up the best show you have.

Someone needs to tie Eric Kripke to a chair and perform a full blown exorcism because he's surely been possessed by Meg!(AKA D*) who is out to kill our favorite Hunters Dean and Sam.

Please Mr. Kripke DON'T ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!

So, they have announced the casting choice for Ruby, the first new character to make an appearance.A willowy blonde.How utterly predictable; another tired cliche in exactly the same disasterous mould as Jo Harvelle.
It seems fan trepidation has already been vindicated by this ingenious and original casting move, and our worst fears about these two new "hunters" are already coming true.
We can only pray now that Mr. Kripke is very good at damage control

Seriously, who came up with this idea? Is the person even a fan of the show? Have they ever watched it? Do they know what the fans like about this show? I watch every week with my wife (who LOVES the show). I was skeptical at first I admit but I soon became hooked on the show. I watch it for the brothers, period. I like their car, their weapons, their ability to kick butt and take names. I like this show because it's simple, no drama, little romance. I honestly feel that the addition of 2 female regulars is a disaster waiting to happen. This show is so good it doesn't need anything extra. It has everything it needs already. They are 2 guys on the road, there isn't really room for regulars anyway. I just don't get it. Please don't ruin the only good show left on TV. Not only would it ruin one of my favorite shows but I'll never hear the end of it from my wife.

I don't care one way or the other. As I posted this fandom needs to take a freaking chill pill.

Their outrage over this is immature. If they just left it Sam and Dean the fans would have been complaining this is boring, we need to spice things up. And so on, now that they want to change things, we have the opposite end happening.

I am so sick of this fandom acting immature.

I can see it now. They brothers will be just starting a hunt. They'll be coming out of a bar where they've been talking to people about their latest ghoul, or out of library researching ways to kill it. They'll turn a corner, talking about what they've just found out and suddenly... suddenly you'll hear a shot. It'll go to commercial and when it comes back there will be a shot from the legs to just above the waist or a super thin, super curvy hottie clad in a tight leather body suit with a couple guns stuck in her belt. The camera will travel slowly up and will rest on the back of her either blonde or bright red, gorgeous, perfectly maintained tresses. You'll see the guys down on the floor, hands over heads thinking it their latest victim. Then they'll slowly look up, eyes widening every second. They'll stand up and what do you know? THERE YOU HAVE IT, your ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY CLICHED beginning to the tale of the two sexpot hunters and their boytoys. Sam and Dean will become unimportant in the scheme of things. These girls are supposed to make them look like the Hardy Boys? I'm sorry, I thought Sam and Dean were the heroes of the show. They're your ticket out of your own personal hell, coming over the horizon in their shiny black Impala. And now these sexy, amazingly talented hunters are supposed to come in and show them up? I don't think so.

CW, you're trying to get your ratings up, am I right? And, correct me if I'm wrong, you think bringing in these two gorgeous SERIES REGULAR hunters is going to do that? Answer me this: do you ever read the comments left on this page? Almost every single one of them has one major point to make: Girls = destruction for our beloved show. The ones that are a positive for the girls? I suspect many of them to be the same person, since the words are basically all the same in each post. Either that, or all the fans of Rubella are chronic plagerizers. Even your male fans have said "we do NOT need the cheap T&A you are trying to incorporate into the show." I am a younger fan myself. I'll be fifteen this summer. If you aer trying to appeal to a younger audience, it's not working. The reason I say no to Rubella is not because I am jealous of the two girls. It's because I know what will happen to the show after they are put in. Dean's last year will be spent sexing it up in random motels. Sam will try to find a way to save him, but will be too distracted by the other beautiful girl. Don't you get it? The wonderful brotherly relationship that we all tune in for week after week with be demolished, slowly broken apart and deserted. Your network already has One Tree Hill, Hidden Palms and all the other teen dramas. Being a teen myself, I must say that I prefer the action, supense and gore of Supernatural to the "OH EM GEE, SHE SLEPT WITH MY EX BOYFRIEND" bullshit that is used to supposedly "attract" girls my age. I love Supernatural. It has the perfect mix of everything I'm looking for in a show. Action, an indestructible relationship that is not based around romance or sex, humour and all it's other amazing aspects. Adding the two hot new hunters into the mix is insulting every side of your audience. The young don't want them, the old don't want them, the female don't want them and the male don't want them. What more are you looking for? EVERYONE IS SAYING NO. So why are you still saying yes? Your ratings will drop faster than they already are. Want more viewers? Join in with your devoted fans and PROMOTE!! I've seen endless commercials for Hidden Palms, Smallville, One Tree Hill. You know what I see for Supernatural? A little bar at the bottom of the screen saying "Supernatural, Thursdays, 8/9 central." You are personally responsible for your lack of viewers. Don't blame it on the lack of sex. We've seen enough of it on TV and I for one am sick of it. If you have any respect for the fans of this amazing show and the show itself, you will rethink the addition of these sexy, better than the boys hunters.

Thanks for your time, if you actually spent any of it reading our comments. I know I did.

-Jasmine

I hear ya anonymous.
How are fans going to believe Ruby as a ruthless hunter that's going to make Sam and Dean look like hardy boys? LOL. the cw execs need to stop taking lsd cuz it's distorting their perception.

SOAPERATURAL...COMING THIS FALL TO THE CW.

LOL

Oh give me a break. Katie Cassidy weighs about 90 pounds dripping wet. She's a walking stick figure and she's supposed to be a hunter? The first heavy wind would blow her away. Talk about destroying the ability to suspend disbelief. Way to go CW. Did you not understand what went wrong with Jo? That it was impossible for the viewer to believe that she even had the strength to lift a shotgun let alone remain standing after the kickback? ARRRRRRGGGGGGGH

THE ROLE OF RUBY WAS GIVEN TO.......KATIE CASSIDY. 20 YR OLD DAUGHTER OF DAVID CASSIDY

SEE TV GUIDE AUSELLIO.

Dear Mr. Kripke,

If you're out there and you visit this site, you probably realize by now how much of a bad idea this really is. Every one of us who have voiced our concerns and fears are pretty much in agreement as to why this is such a horrible idea...so I beg you from the bottom of my heart....please heed our concerns...please listen to our pleas....please love your audience and your show enough to make it right...please don't let the addition of an unwanted character destroy this wonderful show...the audience doesn't deserve it....jared and jensen don't deserve it...I don't want to lose viewers...we don't have enough to risk even one....again, Mr Kripke..please hear our cries of concern...please find a way to make it ok...

Sincerly,

A devoted fan.....

[i]I see the bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin.
I see bad times today.[/i]

Every Supernatural fan in the world knows those words to Creedance Clearwater Revival's song "Bad Moon Rising". We listened to it, holding our breaths as the Impala was slammed into by a possessed semi truck, as the camera panned over our boys sitting deathly still in the wreckage of the beloved Metallicar. It is a song that signified the beginning of the end, or at least the beginning of nothing good. It surprised no one, I think, that a lot of bad things happened after this song played.

[i]Don't go around tonight,
Well, its bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.[/i]

I was driving the other day and the song started to play on the classic rock station I listened to and immediately, I thought of these two new series regulars. These girls are the newest bad moon on the rise for Supernatural. Already we've sat through Jo, and now we are told that we must stomach two female hunters, women who make Sam and Dean look like the Hardy boys. Fans all over are warning that this won't work. That we won't sit around and watch our show be destroyed by the suits who regularly prove the old adage, "Those who can't do, teach." Or better yet, "Those who can't create, control."

[i]I hear hurricanes ablowing.
I know the end is coming soon.
I fear rivers over flowing.
I hear the voice of rage and ruin.[/i]

However, I refuse to make this the new theme song for the fans. I refuse to believe we are going to watch our show go the way of the other sex-obsessed shows on TV. This song, instead, is my message to the suits. To Dawn and Co. To the network. The fans will become the bad moon on the rise, we will become your nasty weather. "The voice of rage and ruin" will not be silenced by your own silence. This is our show. OUR show. Our love for it is fathomless, our loyalty knows no bounds. The only people who possibly know it better than us are those who create this show, those who obsess over its every aspect. The network is not part of this group. The network knows and understands the show less than anyone.

[i]Don't go around tonight,
Well, its bound to take your life,
Theres a bad moon on the rise.[/i]

The idea is to bring in two sexy, kick a** huntresses who make Sam and Dean look like the Hardy boys. I challenge anyone to point out what isn't sexist about this statement. Instead of showing normal women (such as Samantha Ferris as Ellen), two young twenty-somethings will be shoved down our throats, clad most likely in tight leather pants and low cut tops. Sexism.

Worse yet is the second part of the statement. Why is it that these women must overshadow the Winchesters? Strong women are EQUAL to men, not necessarily better. Strong women do not throw themselves at gorgeous men (which will no doubt happen with one of the new characters). Strong women have responsibilities and are comfortable with themselves, and with being equal to their male counterparts.

Sam and Dean Winchester are legends in the hunting world. They are expertly trained, good trackers, don't let anything get away. And now we are expected to believe that they are similar to the Hardy boys? Come on...these men are on the run from the law. They are strong, intelligent hunters who have a strong sense of the "family business". They don't need to be overshadowed by the network's sexist view of strong females.

[i]Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.[/i]

The basis of this show has always been that the brothers are separate from everyone, as showed time and again in season two. They are not aware that there is a network of hunters, or even who other hunters may be (besides Bobby and a few other hunters that have worked with their father). They are cut off from the world, and it works for them. It works perfectly for their relationship, a relationship that strives on protecting each other from harm. Bringing in two females cuts down that relationship in catastrophic ways (especially if one brother is in danger while the other is getting some lovin'). Bringing in REGULAR characters seriously harms the relationship, and also their chances of escaping from the law. It's extra baggage. And goodness, the poor Impala has been through enough, hasn't it?

[i]Don't go around tonight,
Well, its bound to take your life,
Theres a bad moon on the rise.[/i]

So here is the warning to the CW. There's a bad moon on the rise. For your fans, we are calling it Rubella. For you, for the network, it is also Rubella. It is your fans not sitting back and allowing this to happen. No one has a problem with recurring characters. I for one would love to see these girls be recurring baddies! But mark my words, if they overshadow our boys, if they become love interests, low ratings will be the worst of your worries. It is time to listen to the "voice of rage and ruin" and change before it is too late. Don't insult our intelligence. Don't ignore us. Ignoring trouble does nothing. We will fight for Supernatural. And that is a promise.

Truly Disappointed, Toby, Melanie--you said it all...brilliantly.

Other networks would give their eye teeth to have viewers as intelligent, perceptive, and dedicated as SN fans are. Too bad those qualities don't seem to extend to CW's head offices.

And after bringing SN to the brink of destruction--twice--the CW wants us to watch and spread the word about its new fall lineup? Don't make me laugh.

I just watched the rerun of 'Nightshifter" --such an awesome episode and so much of what I love about Supernatural is in it: Brothers Winchester, suspense, action, creepy evil thing, humor and a dash of angst. I just cannot understand why anyone would think that Supernatural needs anything other than promotion and/or a better timeslot to boost ratings.
And I truly cannot fathom why-- if changes did need to be made -- these two new 'regular' characters are what is being put forward as the solution. They sound more like a last resort than a first choice.

all of these people are like DONT BRING 2 NEW GIRLS ON THE SHOW NOT GIRLS WE ARE GOING TO DIE, and like im not going to watch the show any more

is that a true fan....um NO
i dont care if two new people come on the show! i will still watch the show! i love sn.

I started to watch SN because it was scary not b/c they are hot(but that is a plus!)

They can do what ever that want to the show and long as it fits and if it is scary. And its not like any of us are going to date jensen or jared RIGHT!

Jeez CW or whoever is responsible for this latest crap about Supernatural --give a guy a break, would you? I like the show - its a good show. But I watch this show with my wife - she's obssessed with it -- and you're making her crazy with this stuff. Who has to listen to it? I do! First it was Jo and the Roadhouse, then worry about renewal and now two hot chick regulars? What the hell is wrong with you people? Leave the damn thing alone. Its fine!!!
I have three brothers and I can honestly say that Supernatural has the best portrayal of brotherly interaction I've ever seen on TV. The music is cool. The car is smokin.' Only one problem as far as I'm concerned. Enough with the emo already -- I want to see Sam & Dean kick more demon ass -- not see more tits and ass.

I started watching Supernatural because it was just like the shows I watched in my younger days(no I'm not the targeted demographic that the networks want!) It was a buddy/brother show! Back "when", shows like "Simon and Simon", "Starsky and Hutch", "Wild, Wild West" and even "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." were about the partnership of the 2 male leads. The concept of "I'd risk everything" for the person that has seen me at my worst (and best) and still he watches my back unquestioningly; is so "romantic" in and of itself, that adding full-time female love interests is superfluous. The occasional love interest story during the season is perfunctory and easily forgettable. Other shows that were highly successful never allowed their regular characters to become permanently involved with love interests; "Bonanza", "Big Valley", even "Gunsmoke" (at least until the end of their long 14 year runs!)never let the "girlfriend" or "wife" live past that week’s episode! TV of old knew their audiences weren't interested in outsiders becoming permanent fixtures on their shows.
I loved season 1 of Supernatural!! I hadn't seen a show like it in so many years, I was thrilled to find a new show that I could look forward to watching each week. The brothers interactions and relationship brought me back hungering for more!
Then came season 2..... I am probably the only person who hated the roadies from day one and continue to do so even now! I do not like Ellen, Jo or Ash. They were interlopers into the show that I had grown to love. Suddenly the boys could no longer do their own research, we had whiz boy Ash to do it for them. Ellen was “mom”? Excuse me? John didn’t even trust her and her little family enough to mention them to his sons, so why on earth would Dean and Sam suddenly just kowtow to her! I was so sick of hearing "1-800-Call-Ellen" by the end of season 2 that I could have screamed!
(jo doesn't even bear mentioning)
Amazing how the boys did pretty well on their own in season 1! Yes, there were the occasional recurring characters (or mention of characters); John, Missouri, Jerry Panowski, Caleb, Pastor Jim, Bobby! These were welcome additions to the show. They were not done heavy handed and did not take screen or story time away from the boys. Then we get the roadhouse and suddenly there are hunters coming out of the woodwork! Queen Ellen has file folders with possible “jobs” in them that she hands out to her minions. I find it amazing that in a whole year, Dean and Sam never came across another hunter going after the same job they were!?? Now you can’t spit without hitting a new hunter. And to top it all off for season 3, we are getting two new “hot, kickass, female hunters, who are better at hunting than Dean and Sam AND will make them look like the “Hardy Boys”. Well, that just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I can just hardly wait to see these two do their stuff! NOT!
What makes CW and/or Kripke think that these two additions will be welcomed and wanted by the fans!??? Or that they will possibly bring in new viewers?? It doesn’t matter how well they are written or acted, they will take story and screen time away from Dean and Sam. Whatever their purpose is could be done in an episode and then they could be forgotten by the next!
Supernatural is a gem amongst all the teeny bopper trash that exists on CW and many other networks. It breaks my heart that this atrocity is being done to this show.

Let me see now...

Laurel and Hardy
Amos and Andy
Rogers and Astaire
Spencer and Tracy
Batman and Robin
Martin and Lewis
Todd and Buzz
Mulder and Scully
Sam and Dean and Ruby and Bella

What's wrong with this picture, CW? You'll have to use your upstairs brain, but keep at it. Sooner or later, you'll figure it out.

If not, the ratings will do it for you.

I don’t think it’s fair to accuse people of being “drama queens” – many people are voicing reasonable concerns. Introducing new characters is one thing, introducing “series regulars” to a show that has just two leads is completely different. Even if these characters are only on half of the season, that’s a lot of episodes when you consider that, since there are no real and consistent “background” characters in Supernatural, that means these two new characters will have to actually have decent-sized roles in those episodes. If Supernatural was a cop show, then these two characters could just be in the background at the police station, sitting at their desk, on the phone, etc. However, considering that the Winchester brothers spend a lot of time in their car and hotel rooms, if these new characters are hanging out with the Winchesters, then the new characters will have to have some actual screen time in each episode they’re actually in, and I’m sorry, but I believe that will necessitate taking some of the focus away from the brothers.

Also, with regard to the “love interest” issue, you are correct, just because two females are being added to the show does not mean they will be love interests; however, this is The CW, this network loves to have such storylines on its shows, so it’s not unreasonable or a complete leap to think that the love interest angle might be the future goal.

why does evryone have to be such drama queens? introducing new characters could be a good thing, it can expand the horizons of the show. adding new characters will not necessarily take away from the whole "two brothers fighting the supernatural", i think if could easily add more storylines for the show and create more depth. just because they are females doesnt mean they are definately going to be love interests, dont forget most of this talk is speculation!!! it doesnt mean its going to happen.

I hate the idea of two chick hunters being regulars. That will ruin the show. so long Supernatural!

First I will apologize right now if I am jumping to conclusions about WHY the new characters are being added. But if it is not just for the T&A the network has had plenty of
time to state otherwise.

Attention: CW is looking for new employees. Anyone over the age of 25 need not apply. Good looks are required, a brain is not. We need advertisers so wear your skimpiest outfits and tightest fitting clothes. You don't have to know what company you are selling ad time to because, well, they're JUST going to be looking at your body. All older employees will be let go immediately, you are of no use to the network anymore.

Way out there, I know, but this is exactly the message you are sending. You, CW, have a show that appeals to ALL age groups, male and female. The fans are very loyal AND protective of Supernatural and the cast and crew. WE are spreading the word about what a
wonderful show it is and, by-the-way, would appreciate some help with that.

People think that the CW only has teen drama's on and evidently that is EXACTLY the audience you want but then you complain because your numbers are low. Why can't you see
how fortunate you are to have a show that sees no boundaries in age.Advertise it!! Act like you care about it! WATCH it! It's an amazing show.

Mr. Kripke and everyone that works on Supernatural, thank YOU for such an extraordinary show.

Don't fix what's not broke!!

Introducing new characters that are said to be regulars into a show that was meant to be about two brothers is a bad idea. Two seasons in the main guys ahve a large and protecive fan base and of course doesn't react well to hearing they could try to be overshadowed just so someone can have more hot girls. Not only that almost every 'tough' girl I've seen portryed on tv just doesn't seem natural unless she is a bad guy even Jo seemed natural and not too too forced but Bobby, Ellen, Sam and Dean make it hard for you to image that they don't hunt and act like that in real life. I think it's a bad idea and I just hope that it doesn't riun to show so much that I would ave to stop watching.

Reading through the posts put up by the supernatural fans, I realized that
almost all that I wanted to say against Rubella has already been stated with
ample proof as to why bringing in these characters is a bad idea. I will put my feedback on a few of the thoughts as follows:

I Agree with those that say............

......Supernatural should have worked on using the fantastic guest characters
already introduced.

......If they wanted interesting recurring roles that give Jensen and Jared a bit of time and do something great/different for the show, they shouldn't have killed Andy AND John.

I Disagree with......

...... everyone posting that people opposed to the Rubella idea are jealous of the
two characters hanging out with the guys and are not real fans on account that
they do not agree to the plans of ruining an original themed show.

I believe such people themselves are teenage fangirls, trying to enjoy
vicariously through these characters.(How's that for shallow assumptions on
the concerns and intentions of true fans :p)

...... I kinda hope these girls are gonna give 'em a run for their money!

Ugh! these kinda hopes makes me wanna puke! Do you really watch the show.....do you even understand what they have gone through their whole lifetimes to be easily given a run for their money for???

My bit of objections and opinions are:(Couldn’t help myself)

Why the hell do these characters have to be hunters (female at that) & not someone else; why do they have to compete with two established leads?
Why not be accomplices in different departments and professional fields, they
guys get to interact with on professional help status. Why not allow to later expand their roles to interests from thereafter. (If that's what they really
want)

Or How about adding a completely new character concept say a lawyer friend Sam hung out with back at Stanford. Such a character can help flesh out the Stanford backstory.
Then there also could be a person they once saved from a gruesome baddie and now wants to help them as a payoff.These ideas could make for some interesting storytelling.
BUT

We get to suffer this utter nonsensical teenage crap! Why oH WHY?? this
torture? (One Guess is that it's on the CW!)

To conclude; I will continue from what someone else said :
Whoever is out to destroy SN (we all suspect who that is) is about to

succeed..........unless Kripke decides to move it to another network.

PS: I know it's rambling but I couldn’t think of another way to vent off steam.

I'm trying to keep an open mind about these 2 new females, and I will hold off most
of my judgement until I actually see them onscreen.
But in all honesty, I think this sounds like a terrible idea. And the word regulars, just scares me. Recurring would have been hard enough to swallow.

I don't want a new improved "sexed" up version of Supernatural, and that's
the direction this sounds like it's heading. If anything, that's the one
big thing I loved about this show. No love triangle messes, no sexual tension forced into areas it shouldn't be, no 'will they or won't they' get the girl.
Just good storylines about two brothers, on the road, hunting ghosts.
Give me more of that, and i'm happy.
I understand the need to possibly expand the hunting world, but I could think of a hundred different ways to do that, without resorting to this.
Which is why I think this is simply to add a little T&A, and not to expand anything.
I'm still getting over the pointless disaster that was Jo. (No offence to the actress there)

And would it really be necessary to have one or both be better than the boys?
That thought alone, just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I wouldn't want any new characters, especially regulars, showing up and
making the boys look incapable.
And please, please, please. If this is indeed going to happen. At the very least, make them look like hunters. No inappropriate clothing.

Should I feel offended? IF it’s true that these 2 Barbie regulars are being brought in to attract the younger male audience then I'm absolutely offended. I'm a 20-year-old male and I love this show – just the way it is. Shocking as it may be, we are capable of thinking with our upstairs brain and appreciate a good show without having females running around like Barbie. The whole reason I love this show is because it's not like any other show on TV. Why screw up a show as amazing as this one? Not only is it by far the best show your network has to offer (by a large margin) it happens to be one of the best shows available on TV. When a show has excellent writing, an incredible cast and a formula that works – YOU DON’T CHANGE IT! The combination of the brother’s relationship, the road trips, the music, the spook of the week and the Impala (which has all the curves I need to see on this show) you can’t go wrong. But if you insist on putting in 2 Barbie regulars why not give the boys a nice red shiny Volkswagen Beetle, maybe play some bubble gum pop music, throw in some doctors and some kind of Demon-Idol contest and let’s see how the show does. Does no one see that the problem with the ratings has absolutely nothing to do with the show itself? First of all, it’s in the time slot from hell, one only the Yellow Eyed Demon could think up himself, but most importantly it’s about lack of promotion!!! That is where your problem is. Leave the show alone!!

I just read that great post by Scifidiva. Smart and true.

Want a bigger audience? Dump the dumb plan for regular females. Work out a deal with the Scifi Channel to show Supernatural, Season 1 episodes this summer, when viewers are looking for something they haven't seen. And if the Scifi Channel won't show Supernatural, go to TNT, the USA network, FOX, or your own CBS. How do you think "Heroes" brought in such a big audience? Because it's a good show? Come on. Much better shows have been cancelled by the dozens because of low ratings.

"Heroes" got a big following because its network worked out a deal with the Scifi Channel so viewers were hit with reruns right away, again and again. If want to make a TV show a success, you've got to turn people into habitual buyers. How? You get them comfortable with the storyline so they know what's going on. You get them emotionally invested in the characters' lives. And you get them hankering to know what happens next.

But to turn them into habitual viewers, you have to make them watch in the first place. To do that, you can't just depend on word of mouth. Don't tell--SHOW!

The Sunday reruns are a good move, but they aren't going to increase your audience the way they would if they were shown on another, more popular network. I became a habitual viewer of Supernatural when I saw Saturday reruns on FOX. Two reruns later, I was turning off my usual major network to watch new episodes of Supernatural on the WB--a network I'd never watched before. Now Supernatural on the CW's become the best viewing habit I've ever had.

Spread Supernatural around and, by fall, you'll not only increase ratings for the series, you could attract a whole lot of new viewers to other CW shows. And, by the way, you don't have to air Supernatural on that other network week after week. People love marathons. That'll work.

I am so disappointed in the addition of the two new characters. Even though I have barely any more information than roughly sketched character descriptions, although it has still not been confirmed that the girls will appear in the majority of episodes, and although it is highly unlikely that they will destroy the dynamic between the leads, it is clear that the two new characters will forever ruin the show.

Therefore, before I get any concrete information on the characters I am going to wail and bitch and spam the Supernatural forum with threads containing poorly written "metaphors" and terms I don't actually understand, but since everyone else is using them wrongly I may as well jump on the bandwagon. (For example: Mary Sue.)

#1 “Vaccinate against Rubella!”
#2 “Not in my backseat!”
#3 “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!”
#4 “Fight the Good Fight!” - Triumph

These are the CW Supernatural Forum’s campaign slogans.

Catchy sounding, aren’t they? Sure, #3 has been around for awhile, and #2 is very clever rephrasing of “NIMBY” but #1, OMG, #1, conveys our extreme distaste for infecting our show with REGULAR exposure to the Rubella virus.

#4 is our battle song.

Two of my favorite movies - Armageddon and Independence Day - feature end of world scenarios with dangers coming from space. An “asteroid the size of Texas” and (virus –ridden) “little green men” from outer space have invaded our airspace and threaten our world with annihilation. This asteroid is about to crush our Texans, Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles; left unchecked, this Rubella virus may cause a massive infection that could kill our favorite sons.

But “We will not go quietly into the night!” President Whitmore, Independence Day.

Many fans feel The CW Network is behind this push to introduce two “kick a$$, gorgeous, better Hunters than Sam and Dean – who make them look like the emasculated Hardy Boys”, in a blatant, sexist attempt to increase ratings by courting the young male demographic. (If this rumor is in fact, incorrect, then we would like this addressed.)

On the CW Supernatural Forum our male forum members (and friends and spouses of Supernatural’s female forum members) are coming out the woodwork to shout “JUST SAY NO TO THE HOT CHICKS! We don’t want ‘em, we don’t need ‘em, that’s NOT why WE watch the show!” And even more potent are the combined statements from our male viewers that if “T&A” was all they wanted to see, the CW ratings for other shows should be through the roof – but the ratings are actually quite lukewarm - because the CW has some of the – how did several posters phrase this – sleaziest programming on TV today.

No – we won’t allow you to do this to Supernatural!

Of course, they’re stating this message in a far more succinct, articulate way than I am, but hey, I’m just 40–plus year old, college educated female with two degrees and sufficient disposable income to actually buy your Sponsor’s products. But since I’m not in your desired target demographic class or broader target demo of 18-35 years olds, my voice isn’t heard and doesn’t count. But I should be – because many young males in your desired “target demo” are struggling pay their college expenses or rent or both, and cannot afford the sponsor’s products.

I have been a fan of the show from the beginning. I do not watch soaps – cannot abide them. I was a devoted X-Files fan and because Supernatural’s premise was so similar - “two heroes, alone, fighting the forces of evil” - I fell in love with the show immediately. I sweated far more to see if the new CW network would choose to include this unique, crown jewel of a show in their Fall 2006 lineup, than I did for Sam, Dean and John’s lives because I knew they would be “okey dokey” and knew that our beloved “Metallicar” would rise again like a phoenix from the ashes. I checked almost daily to see if the network would add it and when the CW did announce its Fall 2006 schedule with Supernatural listed I think my neighbors heard my whoops of joy. I’ve never, ever been this invested in a television show before.

It’s not that we fans are not grateful for a third season renewal, because we are ecstatic. It’s not that the fans are threatened by new character additions – because we welcome well fleshed out characters, either as villains/villainesses or as friends, “ONS” or Hunter allies to the boys. There is even a place in the myth arc Eric Kripke seems to be crudely following for the introduction of these new characters, but why on EARTH literally “HOWLING OUT LOUD” do they have the status of SERIES REGULARS?

What have they done to deserve this exalted position? Nothing! Only Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles have earned that right. Expansion of the regular cast to ease the J’s workload – please - don’t buy that for a moment – there’s plenty of ways to do accomplish that goal, and it’s been achieved very successfully and creatively in the past.

This entire maneuver smells of network interference and a premature, exploitive interpretation of Eric Kripke’s vision to “sex up the show”, a move that is not clearly not desired by our increasingly vocal male fans, in a misguided attempt to garner increased ratings, that will probably fail.

This show, if left at the careful pace of Eric Kripke’s vision allowing for course corrections as was done in Season 2, can become the new “Flagship” for the CW, a shining star, a classic like the X-Files which started out by slowly gaining an audience and had the staying power to last nine full years. Supernatural is an intelligent show that this network can proud of because it did not allow the show to devolve into a Hidden Palms ratings disaster.

“Oh no, you did not shoot that green sh*t at me” Captain Hiller, Independence Day

This is how many fans feel – that by not addressing our valid concerns over the direction the show seems to be taking we are essentially being “excreted" on and this not the "fertilizer" that makes Mr. Kripke's "Garden" thrive. We are not asking Mr. Kripke to reveal his entire game plan for this season – I am a rabid non-spoiler myself and I did not want to know anything about this – but once “spoiled” absolutely heard the “The Call” and have been one of many fans to take action to mitigate this potential disaster in the making. But rumors that he will not be permitted to address this topic at ComicCon has made the fandom very uneasy.

“…Tell the world to prepare for bad news” Harry Stamper, Armageddon

We remind the CW Network of Bobby’s statement at end of AHBL 2: “Hope you boys are ready, because the war has just begun”. Dean replied, grinning broadly, even though he has only one year to live unless little brother Sammy figures out how to get him out the deal without dropping dead himself:

“We got work to do”

And we do, too, as dedicated, mature fans - because “We will not go quietly into the night!”

On a twist of the Independence Day scenario, we will inoculate ourselves against this Rubella virus because we don’t want our “Mother Ship”, Supernatural, to crash and burn.

Mr. Kripke, as the Master Gardener, please tend to your garden before it becomes choked with poison ivy vines.

I am NOT for kick-ass girls coming into the middle of the series for the sole purpose of having the "girls are just as good as boys are" theme- that's what shows like "Veronica Mars" and "Buffy" are for. Especially ones that are gonna show up Sam and Dean? Please. I hope it turns out they're demons and Sam and Dean waste 'em.

Can someone PLEASE fire Dawn O. before she makes the CW into a teenage version of Lifetime?

So...they managed to repair a few loose ends from seasons 1 going into 2, and NOW they are just gonna throw away what they've built up on?

WHAT THE HELL???-I am swearing, that if this show turns into another BUFFY-ANGEL thing, I am seriously outa here!
For good!

NO SAM /DEAN plus another two chiks is gonna keepme hooked.

THIS IS GONNA BE A DISASTER!

You want to get guys to watch Supernatural? Listen to the males who post here and on the boards. Tell 'em, Ty:

"If they're trying to reach 'young males' then I'm part of that demo and I'm definitely not into the idea of adding two demon hunting chicks as regulars. It's stupid. Guys don't watch the show for hot girls. . . .People watch Supernatural because it's different from all other shows. It actually has good writing, acting, storylines, and an awesome car. Man, I want that car!....We understand the show and know bimbos dressing slutty doesn't help the ratings."

Apparently whoever's behind this screwy move doesn't know the first thing about young males. (I'm guessing it's an older female exec.) Most young guys like to see other guys driving great cars, blowing things up, and beating the hell out of each other. You'll see plenty of males line up for movies like "Fight Club" and the new "Die Hard" film, but "Batwoman"? Forgetaboutit. And if you don't believe me and other posters, try turning off the Lifetime Channel and watching Spike TV.

Better shake yourselves out of that chickflick haze and take a look at the real world before it's too late. People out here know better than you do what they like.

We don't Need new female characters, we've already got some! And it sounds like female versions of Dean and Sam... Either way, they'll take attention away from the boys, this does not need to become 'Charmed'.
I've always seen this as a boy's show, with the brothers and their dad, and I like it that way, it's one of the reasons I love it so much.

We already have Joe (can barely put up with her even) we do Not need more women!

If these characters do appear as a permanent new fixture to the show, it will change the whole dynamics of it. In a bad way. It won't be the same at all, if we wanted a show about women kicking demon ass we would watch Charmed!

It wouldn't be special anymore with them in it. At least I don't think so.

Basically, I don't like it, and I think it would ruin everything... lol.

Seriously.

You'd be losing a lot of fans in doing this, just to let you know.

We need to start a petition or something! This is all WRONG!

I was never a viewer of the WB network. Even during it's absolute hey day, I found the network to be trite and bothersome. And the older I became, the worse it seemed to get. My younger cousin talked about shows like One Tree Hill and I rolled my eyes. I was tired of these teeny bopper shows that provided young teens with a completely faulty view of what's "normal" as a teenager.

And then, last November, my cousin told me about a show called Supernatural. "It's the perfect show for you!" she gushed as I fought with her to watch Grey's Anatomy instead of a rerun of this show she was talking about. I rolled my eyes about her statements. It was on the CW, the new WB, which automatically meant it would be a low quality show based on sex and hot guys running around shirtless. And then we watched the entire first season in three days.

Supernatural is a show that has completely captured my usual Grey's Anatomy addicted soul. It's adult, it's edgy, it's frightening, it's virtually sex-less. I'm consistently amazed by the level of the writing that rivals that of CSI's and Grey's Anatomy's, and by the amazing acting by the two young men who carry this show. I am amazed that the CW picked up this show. It's not your usual fare, at all, is it?

Over the past month, I have gotten nearly 125 people to watch the show. You'd be amazed by their reactions: "Wow, this show is awesome!" "This show is on the CW?" "This show is the best show on TV!" And then came one frightening answer, "I didn't even know about the CW."

I understand you're concerned about Supernatural getting low ratings, which is why I believe you're adding these two female regulars. In the network's thinking, T&A brings viewers. T&A brings the young males in. Twenty-somethings want to see strong kick butt females. I am here to say that those beliefs are inherently wrong. I AM a twenty-something and I want to see a show that is adult and edgy and completely breaks away from the apparently new rule that every single show on television has to have romance and sex and hot girls. I'm tired of that. I'm tired of Grey's Anatomy shoving sex down my throat like it's going out of style. I want TV to grow up. And Supernatural has done that. It has made the CW grow up.

If you're truly concerned about Supernatural's ratings, here is a simple suggestion: PROMOTE it. During this week's rerun of Supernatural, I saw six Hidden Palms commercials, a show that is already being canceled! You promote the T&A of the Pussycat Dolls like it's the end of the world. Promote Supernatural and you will see its numbers completely explode. Promote the show, and the fans can do the rest. The show can do the rest.

I am still not a regular CW viewer. I only check in for Supernatural every Thursday. I still find this network to be, at times, immature and obsessed with sex. If you want to pull in more viewers, if you want to become a network that battles with the big wigs over at ABC, you have to let this network grow up. You have to let this network float away from sex and tortured emotional teenagers.

If you add these regular characters, if you put in the T&A, fans will leave. And I will be sorely disappointed that you allowed one of the best shows on television, one of the most original shows on television, to go the way of One Tree Hill, The O.C., and Grey's Anatomy. If you want my continued viewership, I ask that you allow Supernatural to continue to grow and develop into a show that will make history. Into a show that doesn't need sex to be the best. Into a show that, I believe, could put the CW on the map.

Why don't we follow in the footsteps of Jericho but instead send those little packets of SALT to the CW and Dawn O. in protest of the new HOT (God I hate that word)female regulars. Why can't they just keep and build on the Ellen and Bobby characters? Addy: Dawn Ostroff, President of Entertainment
The CW
11800 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90025

I am not against having these new girls be on the show, if it's done right. My favorite thing about the show is the relationship between the brothers. they can have girlfriends or whatever else the writers cook up for them, but I still want to see the boys looking out for each other, and the banter, and the brotherly moments.

I think the thing that would help the show the most would be the promotional campaign. I can't tell you the number of times that I have told my friends about the show, and they have never even heard of it. If people don't know the show exists they aren't going to watch it.

Well, when you throw words like "gorgeous" and "doable" into the mix, people start to infer "love interests", and frankly, Supernatural doesn't have a good track record with those. Jo...don't even let me go there. And then there's the ones some people like (e.g. Madison) who meet less than pleasant fates (e.g. death by silver bullet). The chemistry between the two leads is just so right, it's hard to add anything to the mix without it combusting. The formula is already so perfect as it is. That being said, if it's handled well (and in the hands of the talented Mr. Kripke, it will be, natch), I'm sure it will either work like a charm... or be altered quickly before we start breaking down doors, kicking booty and taking our own names.

S.L you're totally clueless about why people don't want them on the show.

"And the reason most fans don't want sexual tension or love interests in the show is because there mad or jealous that it's not them with Sam or Dean, if not than they don't want to watch. You have to understand that this is a young peoples show, not a old peoples show..."

Let's face it, CW. You are not doing well. You've had to cancel a number of old favorites, and many of your new offerings lost the ratings race when they were barely out of the gate.

To make matters worse, in the year of your existence, you've managed to develop a poor reputation. You've done this by airing and widely publicizing shows like "Pussy Cat Dolls," "America's Top Models," and "Beauty and the Geek." Yes, all that T&A publicity has brought in some good ratings, but at what price? Millions of potential viewers don't even consider watching the CW because it's fast become known as a network that specializes in sleaziness and schlock. Like a poor hooker who demeans herself for a quick buck, you've compromised your integrity to gain some fleeting points. As a result, you're rapidly losing your chance to be taken seriously by viewers, critics, advertisers, and other networks.

When you renewed "Supernatural," I told myself there was hope for the CW. The network had to recognize and respect the high quality of this program; otherwise, it might have cancelled the series because "Supernatural's" disastrous timeslot led to low ratings. Then I found out that the CW (apparently) intends to sex up the show by expanding the cast to include two hot chicks.

Now I know the reason why "Supernatural" wasn't cancelled. The CW clearly plans to degrade this fine series by using it as still another vehicle for sexual titillation.

It's obvious that the CW execs neither understand nor appreciate "Supernatural." Perhaps this is because practically every program your network has initiated focuses on sex--especially sex among adolescents or adults in their early twenties. "Sex sells!" most of your programming seems to shout--whether in the form of comedies, reality shows, or heavy-handed dramas offering nothing but an excuse to get teens and college-aged students in sexual situations.

Is this the kind of image you want your network to project? If so, the CW will soon be history. If not, it's imperative that you focus on attracting a more mature, discriminating audience than Jerry Springer once did. Adolescents alone need not be your bread and butter. Millions of adult viewers have grown weary of shows like "Grey's Anatomy" and "CSI." They'd welcome the chance to see a horror show offering the depth, complexity, and excitement of "Supernatural." But most American viewers know little if anything about it.

I suggest you promote this show. And maintain its vision and its integrity. Don't try to turn it into adolescent trash, much less "Buffy" or "Charmed." "Supernatural"is far better than any show of its kind that's gone before. In fact, it's one of the finest dramas television has ever offered. It's also a classic in the making and a cult favorite--much as was "Star Trek" before it found the right timeslot in reruns and became a cultural phenomenon.

With even a fraction as much publicity as the vastly inferior "Heroes" was given, "Supernatural" can help you increase your ratings, improve your reputation, and save your fragile network. The series is a treasure. If you're wise, you'll leave it alone.

If they're trying to reach "young males" then I'm part of that demo and I'm definetly not into the idea of adding two demon hunting chicks as regulars. It's stupid. Guys don't watch the show for hot girls. If that's the only thing that got us to watch tv then the CW would be one of the biggest networks on tv. It's not so the idea of hot girls=big ratings needs to be trashed-NOW! Why do they want to go and make Supernatural into another One Tree Hill?!?!? People watch Supernatural because it's different from all their other shows. It actually has good writing, acting, story lines, and an awesome car. Man, I want that car!!

The CW needs to stop changing Supernatural just to get ratings-they need to A-D-V-E-R--T-I-S-E it and listen to the fans. Yeah, Supernatural is a cult thing right now. But come on fans of cult classics are die hard, they don't give up on a show, they tell you what's wrong with it..and don't hold back either. Fans of cult classics tell EVERYBODY they know about the show and dont stop until they have all their friends/family hooked. The CW is sitting on a freakin' gold mine and just wants to screw it up. Oh and a better time slot would help too!

The CW needs to listen to the fans on this one. We understand the show and know bimbos dressing slutty doesn't help ratings. Sorry but whoever thinks that shoud be fired-then ran out of Hollywood. Just because it's different from all their other shows doesn't mean it isn't as good. Actually it's better. SO much better.

Okay so I haven't read everything, but from what I have read, fans are not happy about the new 'sexed up' version of Supernatural.

I don't care for the new 'SERIES REGULARS', but I'm all for giving Jensen and Jared some free time. Those boys work their behinds off, and well let's just say the incredible quality of the show proves that.

However, the show is about two brothers on a road-trip, 'saving people, hunting things..... the family business', not two brothers and two tag alongs who are better then them.

Series regulars, nope I don't think so, maybe one or two episodes to get them familiarized, but then and only then bring them in gradually. They DO NOT NEED TO BE REGULARS.....

I will fight to the end of the Earth for Supernatural, promoting it as much as I can, telling my friends to watch even though I know that there is no chance in them switching from Gray's or CSI....

I used to love Law & Order - Criminal Intent, but nowadays I can not, wait no that should be I will not watch it anymore because they added two more series regulars. I can't stand Chris Noth and him being on it, just makes me switch the station. If this example doesn't convince you, then I don't know what will.

Say no to the new series regulars!!!!

*goes to mourn the death of Supernatural*

Hey, I've got a brilliant Season 3 mytharc. Why don't Sam and Dean (AKA the Scaredy Boys) repair the broken railway lines of the massive Devil's Trap so they can hide out there in relative safety for the duration of 22 episodes? :-P

Meanwhile, the two hot sexy kickass huntresses battle the couple hundred demonic entities outside the boundaries of the gigantic trap. In the daytime, both couples hole up inside their duplex love shacks, and then the girls proceed to dazzle us with their amazing physical prowess while the boys keep house at nighttime.

Why do I get the feeling that Sam's and Dean's characters are going to be slaughtered this season??? What a monumental waste of Jensen Ackles' and Jared Padalecki's talents!

What show is this again?

Bring on the hot and sexy new hunters and the sexual tension I think the boys could use a little about now especially Dean, he's so fine. Jensen (Dean) is the reason I watch Supernatural. Supernatural is going to rock in s3!

I'm not into the idea of two more regulars at all. I like the show the way it is. Nothing needs to be changed, Supernatural just needs a decent time slot and some advertising-not sappy love interests.

I positively, absolutely HATE, HATE, HATE the idea of the 2 new gals!!!!! >:(
I say, bring Jo back!! She was an awesome character, and Alona does a great job of playing her!
Ellen is great too! I think that if the CW wants to add love intrests they should be for one epi only, like Cassie and Madison!!!
My whole point: IF IT WERE UP TO ME, THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE IN CAST!!!!!!!! AT ALL, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya know... if CW wanted to increase ratings, they might try PROMOTING THE SHOW. I was just at the WB studio and Smallville has a huge section in the store as does the Harry Potter stuff, and long gone Friends, canceled Gilmore Girls and Nip Tuck - Supernatural had a rack of t-shirts and on that rack they didn't even have all the sizes - no promo on the tour - nothing - yes I Know WB is the parent company - but CW is leaving our show out to dry - the execs need to hear this - don't change a formula that isn't broken - just promote the show.

Must applaude poster "naughty's" brilliant post below. What is the most ironic is that within days of the "New and Improved Supernatural" becoming public knowledge I saw about half a dozen articles from the US and elsewhere written in the days just prior to it praising the show's unique point of view and brotherly focus as compared to all shows that focus that focus on soap opera-esque romances. I don't really care whose idea this is at this point, it's horrible and the show once again is wasting a summer where fans could be selling the show to all and sundry by instead threatening to mess with the formula they love.

Last season, some CW exec came up with the ridiculous notion that a butt-kicking female hunter would raise SN's ratings. When "Jo" elicited a furious response from most fans, the exec evidently decided he or she still had a great concept; it was just put in the wrong packaging.

So now, instead of teeny-bopper type "Jo," SN will feature two REGULAR EXPERIENCED butt-kickers, Bela and Ruby.

Exec, are you smarter than a fifth grader? Guess not.

YOU DID NOT GET THE MESSAGE.

THE PACKAGING IS SECONDARY. MOST SN FANS DO NOT WANT ANY REGULAR FEMALE BUTT-KICKERS. WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

Getting rid of "Jo" showed that someone at the CW has the wisdom to recognize a mistake and reverse it. Don't make another potentially fatal error by expanding SN's main cast to include two female hunters. Listen to the viewers.

Not only do the regular viewers watch the show, they pass the word, respond to the polls, demand more publicity from the media, and attract the advertisers that pay the bills. Tick off the fans by expanding the regular cast to include these female hunters and not only will SN's ratings drop, the ratings of all CW shows will drop as well. In case you haven't noticed, viewers become extremely hostile towards networks that change their favorite programs.

If that CW exec is obsessed with T&A, fine. Air it, salivate over it all you like. Just don't make it a regular part of THIS series. SN is a ROAD SHOW ABOUT TWO MALE HUNTERS, not female hunters.

This isn't rocket science, CW folks. Especially given its lousy record of new network programming, the CW and its execs can't afford to make another bad call. You have a golden goose in SN. Don't slay it. Your network and jobs are on the line.

To the people at the CW.

I'm all for the new characters for the very reasons the rest of you are against it. I'm not scared of a little sexual tension. I just want it to involve Dean he looks so much hotter with the ladies that come on the show, we just don't see it enough. And the reason most fans don't want sexual tension or love interests in the show is because there mad or jealous that it's not them with Sam or Dean, if not than they don't want to watch. You have to understand that this is a young peoples show, not a old peoples show they are going to be pretty girls come on the show sexual tension between them and the brothers, so theres really no need for Ellen to be there let alone Bobby but sense he cares for the boys I guess he'll have to do. It's only natural for the boys to have other stuff to do with other people they meet, they are brothers not lovers. They need something to take there minds off whats going on in there lifes. Sure the brotherly love is what makes the show and I love it but there are more to them than just that. So let Eric & Co. what ever the HELL he whats with HIS SHOW. The new hunters have got to be more exciting than boring Sammy bitching and complaining about everything Dean does or says, he can be a pain to watch at times. All I know is if you don't like them on the show don't watch the new season plan and simple so stop bitching about it. Bring on s3 I'm excited about it like it or not!

Alona Tal has a signed on for a recurring role on a new program for...I think...CBS.

You've got to remember, there still is much dislike within SPN fandom for her character...Jo. I'd rather forget the character was ever created. Also, Alona as a tough hunter type? please...that was so ridiculous. I could crack her skinny little arms in half. Her character was useless - just a cute little piece of ass. I'd rather see what the writers are going to do with these new characters. Maybe the casting will be better. Maybe the writing surrounding these characters will be better. Maybe not.

hey i was just wondering if we going to get some updates on jo and where she been and what she been doing. i think showing her in a more grown up light like in born under aa bad sign would be advisible. i think just bring back jo as a reaccuring role and we dont need regulars.

Think about every scene with Sam and Dean in the impala and their interaction & dialogue. Some of the best moments between the two are in the impala while on the road.

Are these new characters going to be travelling with them in the impala and disrupting the onscreen brotherlike chemistry between Jared and Jensen? Think about what that will do....it will SUCK.

This is all so depressing... Why mess with a good thing? The show's great, though it does need some tweaking. Why don't you hire better guest stars instead of additional 2 REGULAR cast members? Get better writers to pen episodes that make sense (Croatoan, anyone?). Nobody wants to see 2 new girls cavorting with our boys week in and week out. Ugh, I get nauseated just thinking about it.

Except that the last movie he was in wrapped last week or the week before, and the Shonra Rhimes show is no where to be found. I really think ABC ditched it when they did the Grey's spin off with Kate Walsh. Also he's out of American Girl and the guys making PS I Love You can't get their funding lined up. So right now he's got nothing else going.

I don't like the fact that they are just "bringing on 2 hot kick a$$ female demon hunters". Sorry but it just isn't settling. Ok, if you want to make them reoccurring and let us see the chemistry - cool! If the characters are as realistic as Abby in Blade 3, I think they could be brought in more often. But really, they've got 200 demons and have to find a way to save Dean. Do you REALLY think that romance and relationships are on their minds? Not so much. This would have to be introduced,like, delicately?

Nothing is off the table when it comes to TV. If they really wanted they could make it attractive enough for JDM to come back. He worked three shows before. I can tell CW if they are really concerned about boosting ratings forget the bimbos and get John back. You'd see incredible ratings then.

Sorry, but you're dreaming if you think that the CW and Supernatural has the dollars to make an attractive enough deal to lure JDM back from his own tv show and the numerous upcoming movies he's got parts in.

what happened with ellen i really liked her hope she returns. Oh and i want to see jo next year please just a few eps her and dean are the best together. by far alona tal is the best guest star on the show

i love jO BRING HER BACK!!!!!

Please bring back jo and scrap the new chicks. we already know and like jo just dont make her steal the guys thunder. 5 eps a year would make me happy

i want Jo back, come on after born under a bad sign we need some awkwardness with jo and sam. and i love jo any way

i just wanted to say we love jo and want her back atleast for a few eps give her good material to work with.

To Jerry

LOL, great soup story, now if only the manager would read it and learn. *sigh* we can only hope.

Why do I have this feeling that no matter what our opinions are on the subject, the CW doesn't give a damn and we're in for a HUGE disappointment when S3 premiers this fall? All because the CW does not back Kripke and SPN. They keep this program hidden on Thursday nights and think T&A will bring something else to the table.

WHAT A JOKE.

I'm just not as excited for S3 as I was after AHBL2 aired....sigh...major bummer

I want the WB back.

Nothing is off the table when it comes to TV. If they really wanted they could make it attractive enough for JDM to come back. He worked three shows before. I can tell CW if they are really concerned about boosting ratings forget the bimbos and get John back. You'd see incredible ratings then.

"if you want to add more, how about bringing back the charismatic Dad?"

They can't bring him back because he's got other gigs. He's got a tv show in the works and is doing work in movies.

If his show doesn't take off then maybe they could work him back in if they so desired but, really, having JDM back is probably off the table.

Once upon a time, a cook created a soup and served it in a restaurant.

Other cooks had used similar recipes before; yet, somehow, this soup was different. No one quite knew why. Maybe the secret had to do with the particular combination of ingredients, the artful balance of flavorings, the carefully controlled temperature of the water, or the sudden appearance of a comet in the night sky, but this was the soup of legend--a mysterious, magical soup, whose like had never before been seen and would never be seen again.

Everyone who sampled the soup pronounced it the very best of its kind they'd ever tasted. Before long, soup gourmets, gourmands, and even diners who'd never fancied soup before, began crowding into the little restaurant. Remarkably, one good swallow of the soup, and people became instantly entranced. Most stopped frequenting other restaurants on nights the soup was served and convinced their families and friends to do the same. Many became totally bewitched by the soup. They spent an astonishing amount of time discussing its ingredients, studying its history, reading interviews with the cook and his assistants, making up soup stories and role-playing games, purchasing DVDs, comic books, amulets, T-shirts, and other soup-related paraphernalia, and even traveling thousands of miles to attend panels and conventions on their soup.

Critics were generally unimpressed. Accustomed to slurping at leading restaurants, they were convinced the truly great soups were never to be found in plain bowls on back roads at little two star establishments. And so they turned up their noses at the miraculous soup, not even bothering to give it a try. But devotees were not discouraged. They knew they had discovered something truly amazing. Taking up their sacred cause like gallant crusaders, they set out to enlighten the planet by laboring day and night to spread the word. And the word did spread. From town to town, state to state, country to country to the farthest reaches of the outback, people from all walks of life of all ages, races, and nationalities began to set aside hours each day to eat, speak, think of nothing other than the incredible, edible soup. Like a mighty tidal wave, the soup overwhelmed its famous competitors in poll after poll; soup devotees relentlessly knocked on critics' doors, sent emails, garnered publicity at every opportunity, and, all the while, countless threads, blogs, fanfics, and videos continued to spring up nonstop. The whole world, it seemed, was awash in the hypnotic enchantment of the sparkling, beautiful soup.

And, yet, the restaurant manager was not satisfied.

Even though her establishment was small and new, even though she did little to promote the soup, even though she'd scheduled it to be served on the same night far more prominent restaurants were dishing out their most popular fare, even though the soup was being widely imitated by other restaurants and had created a following like no other, she endlessly complained it wasn't attracting enough diners. In fact, had it not been for a barrage of customer polls and letters, she'd have taken the soup off the menu entirely.

True, no one showed much interest in most of the other items on her menu, but she was a highly ambitious (some said greedy) manager, who was determined to draw as many customers into her minor restaurant as her huge, rich competitors drew into theirs.

And so she hit upon an idea. A "creative" idea. Now, creativity had never been her forte; after all, she was an executive type. But, like many uncreative people, she was convinced of her artistic genius and envied that of others. She was also sure she knew much more about cooking than any mere cook.

And thus it was she demanded he spice up the soup with pepper. (Her creativity was largely restricted to pepper. In fact, she'd insisted the spice be the major or only ingredient in all the many dishes the restaurant offered, which was why the establishment had become known as "The Big Sneezy" or, as some unkinder folks put it, "The Big Sleazy.")

The cook was reluctant to follow orders. Not that he was adverse to the condiment. Pepper was actually a fundamental part of his recipe, included to tease the palate and give diners a more stimulating, often delightfully humorous, taste experience. However, the manager demanded more than the usual pinch; she insisted he turn his miraculous, mysterious soup into pepper soup--not just on one or a few occasions, but on almost every Thursday night the soup was offered.

The cook tried to explain that making pepper a regular and dominant part of the mix would drastically alter the original recipe, resulting in a whole other concoction and alienating customers who'd come to expect a certain classical purity from their soup, a kind of aesthetic, deeply evocative experience calling up mythic associations, ancient fears, archetypal memor--

"ENOUGH!" the manager broke in. "I'm in charge here. And I say we need more male customers! I know the way to a man's heart better than you do: pepper!... PEPPER, PEPPER, PEPPER, PEPPER, PEPPER...and one more time! Keep your lousy aesthetic purity to yourself! Remember where you are and who's responsible for making my dive what it is today! This is "The Big Sneezy," mister --a place where drooling guys can go when they're lookin' to spice up their nights with a whole lot of shakin, sizzlin, fire in the furnace hot stuff. So get those grinders grinding and that soup burnin', or grab up your pals and go!"

Well, you can guess the rest. Deciding that pepper soup was better than no soup at all, the cook followed orders; the customers took one look at the grimy slop before them and hurried away; the manager was fired, and the restaurant soon closed down.

Which only goes to show how too many cooks can soil the broth.

I've tried to be patient; I've tried to be optimisitic, but after hearing that YOU (yes, YOU CW!) are possibly barring Eric Kripke from talking about these two new characters who are already making fans anxious...I have to say it, "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS?!!!"

Superntural is PERFECT the way it is and does NOT need any cheap T&A brought on to the show!!! I am 100% sure that this move would NOT increase ratings and would indeed kill the BEST show that you've got on your network! I would be fine if it was Krikpe's idea, but if it was then WHY aren't you letting him say so?!!! That would put a lot of fans minds at ease if he could! You are doing NOTHING to endear yourselves to the loyal fans of this show! Take a page from your HQ (CBS) and and your competitors (ABC) and LISTEN to your fans! Supernatural needs more PROMOTION NOT more SKIN!!!

OOOOH! So the latest news is that Kripke can't talk about these new characters, hmmm?
WHY NOT???
What's the matter CW?
Fuss not dying down?
Fans not embracing your STUPID CHEAPENING CLICHE SHOW WRECKING IDEA???
Gee, what did you think was going to happen? Seriously I'm curious? What did you think was going to happen when news of these characters leaked out? Did you think the fans were just kicking back waiting to embrace your meddling? Uh, no.
Apparently you don't think.
But you could take a note from the big grown-up networks -- CBS listened to fans and is bringing back Jericho. ABC listened to fans and is having a major script conference on Grey's Anatomy. And speaking of GA, viewers were leaving Grey's in droves at the end of the last season -- and what did you do to entice them to immediately switch that channel and watch Supernatural?
You did NOTHING!!! Worse than nothing! You let the show's lead-in Smallville devolve into such a complete mess that even my 12 year old daughter says its too melodramatic for her and tuned out. Your male demo deserted Smallville in disgust --get a clue.
CW--you screwed up Supernatural's lead-in. You failed to promote the show and you leave it in the Timeslot from Hell with no support at all. And now, now you're going to fix it with some cheap T&A?
How do I know its cheap T&A and not good supporting characters being added to enrich the show? Because if it wasn't cheap T&A, the show's creator WOULD BE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT!!!!

I think this is a stupid idea it will totally ruin the shows mystique and cramp the brothers style and put a damper on their roadtrip, it sucks. but hey we can vent our anger here if we want to it won't do any good it's very rare that the writers or The CW would listen to us usless they really really fear cancellation of the show(God Forbid).

Most of the shows viewers are women if they put these so called Stuper Sexy hunters on, it will insult all women viewers causing the women not to watch which = low ratings then the next thing u know cancellation of supernatural.I'M ONLY 15 AND I BET THAT I COULD WRITE A WAY BETTER SCRIPT FOR THE EPISODE 3.1! WITHOUT THE SLUTTY HUNTERS AND SOAP OPERA DRAMA RAMA! THAT'S A BET! I'D DO IT AND SUCCEED IF THEY ASKED ME TO!

Naughty: That's telling em!!

With all due respect, are you out of your minds? Are you seriously trying to commit network suicide? Are you trying to kill Supernatural, Kripke & Co. and us, the fans? What in God’s name are you thinking?

Pissed off doesn’t even begin to cover it.

On the plus side, you had the good sense to renew Supernatural for season three. For that, my thanks. For two seasons, the Supernatural team has skillfully created the coolest masterpiece since X-Files.

Now you’re going to royally screw it up.

Whenever I see anything that shouts “new and improved” or “new formula”, it strikes terror in my heart, because it usually isn’t.

Remember NEW COKE?
Yeah. Disaster.
With a capital D.
With curlicues.
And hearts and flowers.

YOU CANNOT IMPROVE PERFECTION!!!

WHY is it that some people simply cannot leave well enough alone? Why do they insist on fixing what isn’t broken? Sometimes the very smartest thing to do is NOTHING.

Someone brought up the WB’s failed 2002 series, Birds of Prey. It apparently had all the elements you’re now trying to introduce into Supernatural. Empowered, tough females. Kick ass, super heroine hunter types. Beautiful and gorgeous. And sexy. Can’t forget that. Elements clearly intended to draw young male viewers. A show exclusively dedicated to young, hot, sexy, kick ass chicks. It lasted 13 episodes. Huh?

Why didn’t the young male demo, apparently the Holy Grail in that effort, flock to it and eagerly embrace it with both arms? Because that formula obviously doesn’t work! T & A alone will not draw viewers...or keep them.

The best and most perfect examples of what formula DOES work? Star Trek and X-Files. Classic, iconic legends. They started out as cults, too. Supernatural has already been frequently compared to X-Files. It is a true phenomenon.

And how did X-Files get to be a legend? Certainly NOT by way of T & A, sexual tension or romantic drama. EVER. For nine years, with a host of excellent recurring and guest characters, X-Files thrived and flourished with only TWO full time regulars. A MALE and a FEMALE, no less. They made it work...big time. The two of them, partners, alone against the world. Sounds vaguely familiar, doesn’t it?

You’ve got the successor to X-Files on a silver platter. You’re sitting on a goldmine. And what do you do? You treat it like some miserable, annoying step-child.

It is abundantly clear that you do not truly appreciate Supernatural. If you do, you have a very strange way of showing it. It is also crystal clear that you do not deserve it. If I had the power to instantly take Supernatural away from the CW and give it to a network that understood what they had, backed it with intense promotion and gave it creative freedom, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Then I’d tell you to go to hell.

You’re apparently poised to make a deal with the devil. Trade Supernatural’s heart and soul, the creative formula envisioned by Kripke, for that mystical, elusive Holy Grail...the young male demographic...IF you can get them. Yes, the very same male demo that rejected the WB’s Birds of Prey.

You keep trying to shove crap down our throats we clearly DO NOT WANT. You’re trying to sell us a bill of goods and we’re not buying. Not now, not ever.

Supernatural is an intelligent show. It’s got class. It’s complex, rich and multi-layered. That’s why it’s so unique among your other fare. Adding T & A to our show would cheapen it and drag it down with the rest of the heap of mediocre shows. It would be insulting. Supernatural doesn’t need cheap ploys. It can and does stand on its own merits.

If Supernatural doesn’t have the ratings you want, it’s not Kripke’s fault, it’s YOUR fault. It has EVERYTHING to do with the Time Slot from Hell and your willful, incomprehensible lack of aggressive promotion. If you would concentrate on AGGRESSIVELY promoting Supernatural, which is your job, instead of sitting in on Kripke’s creative team meetings, creating new characters, your ratings would take care of themselves.

There is a reason that Dawn Ostroff and Co. are EXECUTIVES. It’s because they’re NOT freakin creators, writers, directors, or any other artistic types.

Creative genius only flourishes with full artistic license. Creativity thrives and flows of its own accord and does not take kindly to being fettered and chained. It demands freedom or dies a slow, agonizing death.

Executives...well, they execute. The two were never meant to share living quarters. At best, they can only have a civil, professional, if sometimes uneasy alliance. They were never meant to be partners in the actual creative process. They operate on vastly different planes and from totally different parts of the brain and heart. Trying to mesh the two is almost always disastrous.

Supernatural has very unique qualities, which attract a VERY wide range and age of worldwide viewers. The majority are females, more than likely, although I think there are WAY more male viewers than is thought. They’re just not prevalent on the forums, boards and blogs. But if you’ve done your homework, you also know that in this country, the REAL power of the purse is held by FEMALES. And it isn’t just the young teen or college student. It seems like you’re going out of your way, and are prepared to, alienate a HUGE segment of the Supernatural viewing population, just because it doesn’t fit your peculiar, pre-conceived notion of some magical, target audience. Which, apparently, by all indications to the contrary, will now be young males (18-24?). It appears you don’t have a clue as to what your REAL viewer demographics are.

By example, the ages of the fans on the CW Lounge Supernatural forum range from 13 all the way to 56. From all over the world. And we’re buying the promotional products, the merchandise, the tie ins that are starting to come out. Stuff some of us have NEVER bought before, like comic books. Why? Because we love Supernatural. KRIPKE’S Supernatural. I didn’t sign on for the CW’s interpretation of his vision. Kripke’s ORIGINAL vision and formula WORK.

We demand CLASSIC Supernatural, not your New Supernatural.

Are you really and truly ready to open this Pandora’s Box, which will make the opening of Hell’s Gate pale in comparison, by screwing with a proven formula that works? Ready to face all the repercussions and consequences?

If you kill Supernatural and cause it to go down in flames, if you change it into a pathetic shadow of its former self, I will fervently pray for the CW’s swift demise. If you cause misery for Kripke & Co. by your mettlesome intrusion and interference into their sovereign creative process, I will do everything humanly possible, however small that might be, to help ensure that demise. They have earned their well-deserved success, with their blood, sweat and tears; you have no right to take it away from them. You have no right to take the Supernatural we know and love away from us.

Kripke’s entire creative team and we, the fans, have a VERY special bond, forged over two incredible seasons. Kripke creates. We adore. You stay the hell out of it. That’s the deal.

You are management. You know what happens when a stranger tries to intrude in family affairs. Exactly what is happening right now. You get your ass handed to you.

Having Dawn Ostroff and Co. as defacto members of the Supernatural creative team is like having someone who doesn’t know how to boil water and can just barely microwave a TV dinner replace international chefs in a five star restaurant to whip up an exquisite gourmet meal.

Ain’t gonna happen.

A whole lot of people will be pissed off, leave and go elsewhere to eat. Or get food poisoning and sue. The faux-chefs may even, by their inexperience and ineptitude, burn the restaurant down.

CW, we DEMAND that you get your hands off our beloved show and Eric Kripke. IMMEDIATELY.

Let the creative genius that is Kripke & Co. continue to do its job. You do yours. Get out of the damn kitchen before you burn it down. And yourselves, along with it.

Adding 2 new "hot" female regulars to this fine drama is a real "jump the shark" move and has the potential to destroy a great show that is just taking off. The only chemistry you need is between the 2 leads; if you want to add more, how about bringing back the charismatic Dad? Turning this into another guys and gals show will destroy its burgeoning fan base. Take a hint from the X-Files; no other regulars required and no ongoing romance either. I was truly saddened to read that you are going to drive Supernatural into medocrity by imposing the standard CW formula on the show. What a shame!

***** BRING ELLEN BACK !!! *****

The boys desperately need both Bobby and Ellen, especially with all the problems they’re now facing. Bobby and Ellen are the only ‘family’ they’ve got. They need some sort of solid rock for advice and support. As strong as the boys are, especially together, they can’t do it alone. Everyone loves Bobby (I feel confident we’ll see more of him), and Ellen is extremely popular. Why? Because they’re REAL, they’re gritty, they’re normal, everyday folks. They’ve been through the fires, they’ve proven themselves. To have either one or both just disappear or fade away, especially with the coming demon war, would destroy an integral part of the continuity of the story.

When I learned last month that Supernatural had been renewed for another season (which incidentally is the ONLY show worth watching on ANY network), it felt like Christmas arrived early in May! THANK YOU to all who had the good foresight to make this happen. Now here is where I am most baffled by your intention to bring in two female regulars: WHY in heaven's name do you see a need to make such unnecessary changes to a show that already has a proven track record of success? Supernatural has ALL of the elements that most shows would envy: intriguing storylines and writing that keeps you at the edge of your seat every moment, and excellent acting. The relationship and chemistry between the brothers are what make the show so special and interesting. I have watched most of the episodes several times over because of this very factor; bringing in two regular female characters would adversely impact the whole dynamic of the show. How is it that you could be so innovative, intuitive, and "on the mark" for the past two seasons, and then make a decision that contradicts those very same attributes? Please listen to your large and growing fan base (who is obviously getting more vocal by the moment), and capitalize on an already successful formula that would take the show to greater heights (and ratings). I speak not only for myself, but also for many of my family and friends, male and female, ranging in age from 14 to 55. We are stakeholders who feel proud to have had a part in helping to save the show for at least one more season - let's save its integrity as well!

Here's some good news:

Rumor has it that a Supernatural Soundtrack is in the works

"The X-Files" lost its way when it began placing too little emphasis on the creatures the agents investigated and too much emphasis on the miseries of the agents themselves. "Supernatural" took a similar wrong turn this past season.

In Season 1, we heard about the personal problems of the Winchesters in every episode, but their fears and conflicts were handled deftly, subtly, and rarely allowed to draw attention away from "job." Furthermore, the secret core of the characters was firmly protected and the layers of Sam and Dean were pulled back only a little at a time, making the Winchesters endlessly fascinating to viewers. In addition, the relationship between the brothers was always imperiled by underlying conflicts. These conflicts contributed suspense and humor to the show and encouraged the audience to wait and watch for the merest sign that Sam and Dean were drawing closer.

In Season Two, the internal conflicts of Sam and Dean took over the series. Yes, the brothers still hunted monsters, but the job was almost incidental to endless outpourings of guilt over dad and angst over Sammy's possible fate. More often than not, the hunt was simply a vehicle--even an excuse--for emotional outbursts. The result was melodrama. Equally bad, when it came to the inner landscape of the characters, little was left to the imagination. The audience was robbed of the mystery of Sam and Dean by the writers. Before long, the brothers were pouring out their feelings to one another at the least provocation. Even worse, we were deprived of the opportunity to feel compassion for the guys because they spent so much of the season wallowing in pity for themselves. And what happened to that steady undercurrent of antagonism between Sam and Dean? What became of the sibling rivalry, the old resentments and sniping little comments that kept the love/hate relationship real and made the brief, bonding moments ("bitch"/"jerk")so much the better? The Winchesters became the Waltons or worse, professing their undying devotion to one another, their determination to die for one another, ad nauseam.

If the writers/producers of SN want to keep and attract viewers, they need to turn a deaf ear to that small portion of the audience who keep demanding more and more angst. SN is first and foremost an ACTION series. Internal conflicts must be expressed rarely and selectively, as in Season 1, when personal turmoil was quickly set aside for the sake of "the family business." Because the brothers rarely expressed their deepest feelings, the brief scenes when they did were all the more significant and memorable.

If SN is going to appeal to viewers, it must remain faithful to EKs original vision of two guys with chainsaws in the trunk, hunting down monsters as they crisscross the lonely roads of America. The series must also toss out the neurotic, self-absorbed leads we so often saw in S2 and give us back something closer to the tough, tight-lipped hunters of S1. Sam and Dean are played by two of the finest young actors around. We don't have to be told what the characters are going through. We'll know.

In short, SN has no need to employ ruthless female hunters to "man-up" the series. Sam and Dean were doing that just fine until S2. It's time the sappy writers backed off and let the Winchester men get back to business.

Supernatural is expanding its cast with two REGULAR girl hunters?
This must be a bad joke cause that's the very LAST thing this show needs. SPN is fine as it is with the two brothers front and center - we don't want any stupid sex and romance stuff going on in Season 3 when Dean's only got a year left. I watch this show to get away from that soapy crap.
Give us Sam and Dean and the Impala and some demons to toast and we're happy.
No to CW bimbos on Supernatural.

CW, CW, CW...When will you learn? The tough kickass female TV characters went through overkill and ended: Alias, Buffy, Charmed, Zena, Dark Angel - am I forgetting any? We don't need any on Supernatural. This show already has its kickass heroes: Sam and Dean.

Love interests: I could care less. Here's a prime example of what "love interests" do to the pace of episodes for this type of program: BUABS – This episode was on a role, the pace was fast, it was intense and suspenseful, then stop...halt...Lets throw in a Dean-Jo finalizing their non-relationship scene to slow everything down. WTF? All they needed to do was have that scene begin with Jo handing Dean the container of pain pills and Dean thanking her for patching him up and then him leaving. But no...we got more Jo bullshit. One other thing I want to point out with BUABS: I was rooting for DemonSam to kill Jo. That would have rocked! Further to make my point: think about every episode Jo was in and how the episode strayed and slowed when a Dean-Jo moment was inserted.

Don't make this program into a soap opera. There are too many of those on primetime TV as it is. When you lift out all the soap operas and reality tv, how many prime time shows are left? It's no wonder I don't watch much tv anymore.

The issue of “new female hunters” completely aside, I think the ONE, overriding issue that has fans up in arms is the “REGULAR” part. Take away that part, make them RECURRING, and we’d be happily discussing Bela and Ruby and how they’re gonna be woven into the storyline, what kind of evil mischief they’ll stir up, etc. We’d be as happy as a Wendigo at feeding time.

It is the REGULAR part that is killing our souls and pissing us off. Brand new characters, raw and untested, I don’t care WHO they are, haven’t earned the RIGHT to be REGULARS, as I understand regulars to be, up there with Jensen and Jared. As stars of the show, they should be the ONLY permanent regulars. It's THEIR road trip.

And with us SPN fans, you don’t get to join the family till you prove yourself. Kinda like drinking holy water. They must pay their dues and EARN our respect, whether we love to hate them or love to love them.

The second most important issue is the love interest debate. While we don’t yet know exactly what purpose or direction these two new characters will have, the potential for a love interest for either boy is overwhelmingly and wildly unpopular. It just doesn’t seem to fit with what’s going on in the boys’ lives right now. However, it’s not like the boys have never had a love interest before. But, if it cannot be avoided or it is crucial and integral to the boy’s story, then it must be with RECURRING characters. NO long term love story. Supernatural is not a romantic drama.

So, Kripke, please talk to us. Just a few words. Have pity on your poor, loyal fans. Address these two issues and put our roiling, overheated minds and hearts at ease, if only a little. We go through enough angst, heartbreak and torment each season as it is. Don’t make us suffer needlessly. While we love it when you torture us, this is way above and beyond. We know that once the REGULAR issue has been addressed, you’ll MAKE these characters work, with that unique, magical spark that only you can deliver. We DO have faith. 100%. We just need a little reassurance. Without it, it will be an unbearably long, agonizing summer.

Oh, and Kripke, we LOVE you.

Hey, CW? WANT HIGH RATINGS? WANT BIG BUCKS? LISTEN TO JOE. THIS GUY REALLY KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT:

"Give us more action. More gore. More gunfire. More solid ghost stories. Cool effects. That's what I want to see. The female guest stars they have are enough for me. I don't want or need to see two hunter chicks all the time. This show goes a little overboard on the melodrama (Winchester angst overload this past season) as it is and I don't want to think about throwing possible love interests into the mix on a regular basis."

I DON'T KNOW JOE, BUT IF HE ISN'T A NETWORK EXEC, HE SHOULD BE.

(Gosh, I certainly hope that these posts actually make their way to the powers that be - Sarah, can you please work on that?) First of all, thank you, CW for keeping our beloved show on the air and for your effort to promote it (albeit scantily, I dare to say). I was pleasantly surprised to see your Thursday lineup billboard on Hwy 99 by Fresno, CA. Hopefully, you will also see fit to stream the awesome "Making the Cut" winning promo during your other shows once all the presumed red tape is complete.

That said, I hope you seriously take to heart our passionate concerns regarding this fatuous attempt to boost ratings, if indeed that is what you're trying to accomplish with the addition of two seemingly puerile and unnecessary regular characters. I am a retired businesswoman in her 40's who has tuned in to this show since its inception (incidentally, this is the only CW show I watch) and this is my only "must see TV" - ever. As you may have surmised by the vast number of articulate posts here, this show has the ability to attract and hold an audience of drinking age many years over, and who have IQ's over 120, which also equate to "buying power." You also may have taken note of the numerous comments posted by male viewers, which means that, yes, this show has an audience that comprises both genders! While there may exist subtle differences in our reasons for loving this show, the constant theme is that we love this show THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS. Remember, we CHOOSE to tune to this show over others in the same timeslot because we are not interested in who is sleeping with whom and God-knows-what-other-hospital-related-drama, or watching yet another crime technician dusting for fingerprints or applying the latest technique for the gas chromatograph.

Hear us now, for we value the integrity of the only television show worth our precious time. We are speaking loudly and very clearly here: please leave our show and Kripke & Company alone. (However, Mr. Kripke, if you are behind this, please take note as well.) This show is gaining momentum and an ever increasing viewing audience, despite the reports of the ineffectual Nielsen ratings. We want to see many, many more seasons and I'm sure that you want to keep your advertisers. And who knows, Supernatural may actually put the CW on the networks map, much like what the X-Files did for Fox. Seriously, this is your only show that can do it. Seriously.

The CW needs to take note that no major changes need to be done to Supernatural. The Execs need to take advice from this CSI fan (screen nname "dktamom") who posted the following blog on TV Guide's website:

"First off, I would like to say that this is being written by a former die hard CSI fan.
An awesome event took place a few months ago when CSI was not on that particular night.
My teenagers have been bugging me for a while to sit and watch their favorite show Supernatural.
I figured well why not.
We all sat down and watched the episode and I was totally blown away by the show.
I was so impressed that a first rate show like this could be on in the absolute worst spot in a TV schedule.
Why would the CW hide such a gem of a television show? Supernatural is top drawer all the way!!
The show has everything! Not only does the show have good looking, talented actors it has some of the best writing and directing that I have seen on a TV show. Supernatural is a smart, entertaining, action packed thrill ride. I liked it so much that I have since purchased season one on DVD and season 2 on ITUNES (obviously the smart folks at Apple know a good show when they see one) I particularly like the camaraderie of the 2 stars of the show. You just can't fake chemistry like that!
The show also has some of the funniest scenes that I have seen on a show in a long time.
When season 3 starts in September I will be right there with the kids anxiously awaiting the further exploits of Sam and Dean.
Now, doesn't it make you wonder that if this show could turn a dedicated CSI fan like me then how many others would turn once they saw what a quality show this is .
Maybe some of the execs at the CW should tune in as well so they could see for themselves what a gold mine of a show they have and not bury it on Thursday nights against 2 of the top rated shows on TV!!!!"

Joe's right. If the CW wants to attract more guys, make "Supernatural" tougher and cooler. I like seeing different chicks. Not the same ones week after week.

I really REALLY feel that the CW is making a huge mistake by adding in these two female regulars. The show is about Sam and Dean- two brothers fighting evil. THATS IT. I couldn't stand Jo this season (I barely accepted Ellen) and I personally feel that if these two new cast members are added, Supernatural won't last for another season. Which would be a real shame, considering its the only show I watch. I don't even remember what I used to watch before it was available!!! No matter what, I will still be a weekly viewer, but for the good of the show, PLEASE rethink this decision.

The news of two female regulars on Supernatural seriously disturbs me. For several reasons.

1) I'm not a fan of the genre. I'm not. The last scary movie I saw was The Ring and I had my jacket over my head for 99% of the film. But somehow, Supernatural has completely captured me. Why? Because of the brotherly relationship. I love watching the brothers! Jensen and Jared are so believable as brothers who banter back and forth and protect each other at all costs. I feel having two series regulars come into the mix will only seriously screw up that dynamic.

2) The descriptions of these girls is so cliched I feel physically ill. Completely doable? Well, that's fantastic. They tried this with Jo, remember? A kick ass hunter with an attitude to match Dean's? C'mon. Unless these characters are going to be incredibly well written, well, I see them going the same path as Jo.

3) I don't watch a single show on CW EXCEPT Supernatural. And why do I watch it? Because it isn't a crappy teenage angsty soap opera. "Oh, so and so slept with so and so and now my heart is broken, please turn on the tortured emo music!" I love that the writers of Supernatural have created two guys who just don't have time for love interests. The show FEELS more grown up than all the other shows on the CW. And with Gossip Girl coming up...yeah...I'm thinking the CW needs some adult entertainment.

4) Sam and Dean have enough to deal with this upcoming season. Sam has to save Dean from the (dumbass) deal he made, as well as deal with the knowledge he has about their mother. Dean has to worry about Sam in general. And they BOTH have this HUGE war to fight. I'm all for bringing in hunters through out the show, but not series regulars who are following Sam and Dean around the country.

If the CW is trying to provide love interests for our boys...ugh. Seriously? I don't know what they think this is going to do, but it's not going to up viewership. People want Sam and Dean, demon hunters extraordinaires and brothers! I, for one, am not looking forward to the addition of "completely doable" chicks to this awesome show. Can't sex be left out of TV for once?

[quoting from a post below] One question instantly pops into my mind: why? There is no need for such characters. And from what I’ve been reading these 2 newbies are as cliché as it gets… Now someone please step in and explain to me the meaning and reason for this…for if someone can give me a more valid explanation than: “we need some more sexiness in the show…something for the male fans to watch” then I’ll gladly retract my statement…(or maybe just revise it)… [end quote]

If they'e being added for the men, speaking for myself and a few friends, we don't want to see this shit on the show. Give us more action. More gore. More gunfire. More solid ghost stories. Cool effects. That's what I want to see. The female guest stars they have are enough for me. I don't want or need to see two hunter chicks all the time. This show goes a little overboard on the melodrama (Winchester angst overload this past season) as it is and I don't even want to think about throwing possible love interests into the mix on a regular basis.

I like this show for what it is and really would rather not see it devolve into Sam and/or Dean getting it on with one of these chicks or these chicks showing them up all the time. Jo was a drop in the bucket with them having her sock Dean in the nose to show what a tough girl she was. They always go way overboard with these kinds of characters. I have a very bad feeling about these two.

WTH ARE U TRYING TO SAY? ARE U INSINE? OUT OF UR MIND?!

IT CANT BE, NO!, WE DONT WANT "CUTE" AND "SEXY" HUNTERS... HELL NO! TRY TO UNDERSTAND, THE SHOW STARTED ONLY WITH THE WINCHESTER, AND WE WANT IT TO END ONLY WITH THE WINCHESTER, WE DONT WANT SUPERNATURAL TO BECOME LIKE THE OC... PLEASE KEEP THE TERROR AND DRAMA SHOW, NO TURN IT TO "ROMANTIC AND TRAGIC"... PLEASE THATS ALL WE ASK FOR, NO NEW REGULAR HUNTERS... BESIDES KRIPKE SHOULD CARE ABOUT DEAN, CHRIST SAKE, HE ONLY GOT ONE F*UCKIN' YEAR! THEY HAVE TO FIND THE WAY TO SAVE HIM, NO DISTRACTIONS LIKE THOSE KINDA FREAKING STUPID GIRLS... PLEASE KEEP SUPERNATURAL LIKE THE START... DONT SCREW IT UP!

WE ARE HAPPY WITH ELLEN AND JOANNA, AND WE WILL BE IF IT STAYS LIKE THAT...

SINCERELLY, I DONT LIKE THAT STUPID IDEA

Pao

PS: sorry if i made mistakes, but i speak spanish

Looks like CW wants to kill off the series by the end of the third season. If ever the boys aren't the focus - I quit watching. I don't mind Bobby and Ellen getting more screen time, but I am NOT interested in a couple of girls being regulars. The Winchesters are the focus and should stay the focus. This poor decision reminds me of the saying "IF IT'S NOT BROKE DON'T FIX IT."

I like Ellen's character, and I thought Meg was cool (other than being a demon), but I don't like any of the other recuring female characters. And did they say REGULAR??? Not recuring, but REGULAR??? They just can't do that. I hope both characters die before the Christmas hiatus. Come on, people, Dean's dying in a year! This could be the last season of the show, so why mess it up now?
On another note, does anyone think Sam will find a way to save Dean? I'm kinda iffy about that. I mean, Sam is smart, but Demons are smart too. And didn't the Demon say if Dean tried to get out of it, they'd kill Sam? So wouldn't Sam trying to save Dean be enough to get himself killed?
I understand Dean making the deal at the crossroads, but I'm still mad at him for it.

Sorry, but after reading about Ruby and Bella, I'm a little confused. I thought the comic book was going to be issued in paper, not on TV.

WHO KNOWS.. MAYBE IT WILL BE BETTER THEY ARE BRINGING TWO GIRLS TO THE SHOW.UNTIL WE ACTUALLY WATCH IT, WE WONT KNO WETHER ITS A GOOD THING OR A BAD THING. IN MY OPINION I REALLY DNT CARE BECAUSE I WONT EVEN BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM, ILL BE TOO BUSY LOOKING AT SAM AND DEAN. ;)

I have probably never been more exited than when I saw the 2. season finale. At first a slight disappointment snuck in, but the more I thought about it, the more I loved it…The third season was going to be the best! I mean the build up is just epic, and over the past weeks I have been catching myself thinking: “How can they mess up the 3. season, it’s impossible – the build-up is perfect…”

But then what is this? The most elaborate scheme to f*** up one of the best shows on TV these years have been plotted and set into motion… 2 new characters…now that I could have lived with!!! But 2 new regulars…WHAT??!

One question instantly pops into my mind: why? There is no need for such characters. And from what I’ve been reading these 2 newbies are as cliché as it gets… Now someone please step in and explain to me the meaning and reason for this…for if someone can give me a more valid explanation than: “we need some more sexiness in the show…something for the male fans to watch” then I’ll gladly retract my statement…(or maybe just revise it)…

What happend to the:"This is a dark show...we don't do things the way others do" from the first season?

Personally I wouldn’t mind if the coming season is the last (I like things in 3's:D), but hell if it’s going to be wrecked by some fancy whim of the writer’s imagination… No fan with the tiniest respect for him-/herself, or the show, is ever going to accept more than TWO regular names in the opening credits.

I wonder if the shows writer’s have sold the soul of Supernatural to the devil for higher ratings…

If this show adds two new cast members there is no way im F@#KING watching it anymore..
I hate when shows do this, they get us hooked and then they screw us over time and time again. If two chicks are added then say goodbye to the brothers storyline and say hello to relationship drama/mush that is so redundent it makes ya want to gouge your eyes out.
If they wanna bring someone back why not Missouri she kicked ass. Anyways not gonna say anymore cause im pretty sure everyone else has said it twice over

cheers

i really REALLY do NOT want to see two new regular female characters added to the cast. i continue watching Supernatural because of the relationship between the brothers. i dont want to see episodes of Dean and one of the girls and barely any sam. same with sam. i want to see them both and not get cut out more because of two girl hunters. If they are added they better not be love interests. but i really dont want them added at all. I hope this doesnt ruin season 3 cause i really want more seasons. If they want to add female characters put more ellen in , or missouri or something. If i wanted to see the characters and their love relationships Id watch smallville. but i watch Supernatural and i say keep it how it is. Its perfect the way it is and I really hope these new cast members dont ruin it.

To be honest I’ve been really pissy since I found out this news. I get that they need recurring characters; I mean Jensen and Jared aren’t superheroes; they can’t work all the time. But what is this networks obsession with girl power. It’s not that great. Truthfully I’m worried that this season of Supernatural will turn into last seasons Smallville, shoddy scripting, taking the focus of the main leads and totally dependent on girl power. Supernatural is literally rolling in potential recurring roles and their already establish recurring characters. What’s wrong with Hendrickson, Bobby, Ellen, Jo? (well she’s not great but tolerable) Then there’s millions of other potential characters I’m sure the fans would like to see again: Deacon (FBP), Becky and Zach (Skin), Missouri (Home), Gordon, Mara (FBP). Then there’s their dad’s friends who have been mention but not followed up on. The names Jefferson and Joshua come to mind…wait there’s more the occasional ep with their dad, mom, or Jess is always a treat. All these characters have potential to show up for one or more eps. So why the hell do we need Bela and Ruby coming in and changing the dynamic of the guys? I have grown to love this show based on the ever changing relationship of the brothers. I love it because it’s a breath of fresh air from the usual shows that rely on unresolved sexual tension to get them through a season. Destruction is all that will follow these two new regulars.

Since the network is "improving" this show seemingly by, as other comments have mentioned, getting story ideas from 13 year old bad fic writers may I ask when the long lost younger Winchester sister will turn up? or when will Dean/Sams teenage love child will appear?
I find it hard to believe that ANYONE can think that the inclusion of "hot" young women add anything to a show. That really works because all my male friends seriously can't get enough Dawson's Creek, Charmed, Veronica Mars, Smallville and shows of that ilk any of them would rather die than watch anything like that but we all have a night in on Sunday when it is shown on ITV2.
As for being better hunters than Winchesters, I thought that they were Legend, Gordon certainly thought so when he first met them, Ellen, who had no reason to like them respected them. I am all for strong, empowered women but not when they are strong, empowered slutty eyecandy who can beat up anyboys with their tank tops tied behind their backs. Guess what CW, Buffy has already been made, and has already become a cliche.
This reminds of a few years ago and the battle JMS had with his network over Babylon 5, and it turned out JMS knew what he was doing (with the possible exception of season 5)and he had a brilliant and innovative show that is still being copied now.
If you pander to the lowest common denominator you get shows like Big Brother.
Mind you I am a 30year old woman and so should I expect the people from the home to come and take me in for Renewal just like Logans Run?

I love everything about this show! And these two NEW CHARACTERS isn't going to scary me away like they the rest of you. We don't even know what the women will look like so why call them all these names when we don't know a whole lot about them, just hear say. I think some fans are just jealous and mad about the sexual tension coming into the show because it's not them with Jensen or Jared and using every excuse to hide it. I say if some chick can get Dean were she wants him I say HELL YEAH bring on the sexual tension, he looks better with (assorted women) than Sam does. I have news for you guys this is a sexy show, two sexy guys there is going to be sexual tension between the people they meet it hads been in the show sense the pilot, so they want to put a little more in, so I say so the HELL what, there never was no complaining up until now. I think if you say you LOVE it as much as everyone says they will give it a chance in season three, if you don't than you don't love it as much as you say you do. PERIOD! Supernatural will ROCK in season three. I hope season three surpise the hell out of the ones that say I'm not going to watch this it if it's this or that way, thats just retarted bigtime.

i really don't like this the show is about the two brothers and i want the focus on them as the onl regulars, recurring is ok, but even that i like them meeting new people every week, i really don't wanna watch the show if half the time its focused on two chicks just brought in for male viewers

obviously many are not happy about this. the females are trying to make Dean and Sam look like a coupla weaker men if you ask me. if you wanna make a show, diss yourself because the originals, stay BEST.

Come on, guys. Cool down!
Viewer numbers are low, SN has to compete, and no one knows better than the CW how to up ratings with fresh, innovative ideas.
Rumor has it that, in addition to female regulars, the network will be offering some truly original plotlines. For those who don't mind spoilers, here's a sneak peek:

1. Once again, big brother will be attacked by a rawhead and suffer severe heart damage. With the Reaper unavailable (he's been given his own series), Dean will be put on a list for a heart transplant and spend most of his two episodes in bed, engaging in moving scenes with Candy Dish. The twenty-two year old diagnostician, Nobel Prize winner, and former "Girls Gone Wild" model, will be whacking ass with her cane but reveal her heart of gold as she gets it on with a multitude of hot medical specialists at the horniest hospital in the country.

2. Meanwhile, Sam will meet an old friend from Stanford. Now a noted forensic pathologist, this former Surgeon General and Playboy Bunny will ask for Sam's help in solving a series of grisly murders involving horribly mutilated corpses garbed in scuba gear and discovered festooned on giant cactuses. Thus, in two exciting episodes, Sam goes full frontal nudity as he works with a team of geeky hunks and babes at one of the horniest CSI labs in the country.

3. Meantime in the meanwhile, Bobby is called upon to investigate a series of demonic possessions at a television network. Posing as a game show contestant, he finds himself competing with fifth graders whose ability to name the states and Presidents convinces him they were visited by the YED in infancy. He manages to stay in the game for the entire episode, thanks to the inside information he receives from the crew--made up of the horniest guys and chicks in the television industry.

4. In a brilliant first, the CW will reduce costs by combining its most publicized show with its least. On the road for seventeen episodes with twenty other scantily clad chicks, hunters Bela and Ruby will be powering up the chainsaws and emasculating every male in sight as they crisscross the country in a Grayhound bus. According to unconfirmed reports, the three-part finale features Bela dying, and Ruby selling her soul to bring her back, after which the gals drive two-hundred demons back to hell and share top prize as America's Horniest Idol.

So not to worry. Like every new CW show, "Supernatural Pussy Cat Dolls" promises to be a winner!

Put on your life jackets, Supernatural is about to jump the shark.

I'm not going to sugarcoat it, I am one pissed off SN fan. I hate this idea and no matter how hard I try, I can't shake the feeling that these girls will equal a recipie for disaster. I mean, 95% of the comments on this are negative and rightly so. I mean regular characters? Are you kidding me! We have so much to explore, so many questions unanswered, come on Dean's got a year to live for fuck sakes! Why add these girls in now off all times? Recurring, I can tolerate, but I will not stand for regular. Rubella just sounds like cliche and old, run-of-the-mill characters you find at Fanfiction.net, not in my beloved Supernatural. CW, I beg you, PLEASE rethink what you're doing. This will just blow up in your faces and the only good show you have will be ruined. We do not need these girls, we do not want these girls, get them the hell out of here!!

Oh and on another note, why get rid of Ellen? She's a wonderful asset to the show and I love seeing her in on screen? If she's too "old" for you, then you seriously need to give your head a shake and pull your heads out of your asses and take a good look around. Most of the SN fandom love Ellen and it would be a mistake to axe her, espicially if you're planning on bringing these two bimbo's in. I hope CW is reading this so they can see what a mistake this is.

Somebody pinch me. I feel like I’m stuck in some horrible nightmare and can’t wake up. At first I thought this was a joke. Then I realized nobody is cruel enough to joke about something like this.

If these “hot female badass hunters that are better than Dean and Sam” had been in the first season, that would be one thing. Sort of like parallel hunter stories or something, but bringing them in now looks like just what it is...a ratings ploy. It will fail because the fanbase isn't tuned into watching chicks do anything!

Most of the fanbase are also angst lovers. The thought of some females coming into the show and hogging up the angst *shutters*.

One is a love interest? *gags even more* I’m NOT interested in watching two people give each other sex me up eyes nor do I enjoy watching them swap spit. If I wanted to watch crap like that I would. I refuse to watch crap like that. Let me guess, I’ve heard Gamble say a couple times she wants Dean to have a love interest. I’m going out on a limb here and guessing this skank will be for Dean? Brilliant idea. He only has a year left to live but hey ho, let’s let him spend it getting him some. It’s not unfair for him to get a female to fall in love with him when he won’t be around much longer.

I just feel so disgusted. Like someone slapped me in the face. Does the CW have any clue HOW MANY friends and family members I got hooked on this show? I got over a dozen to tune in for the finale of season two alone. Then they go and do this to me? My friends/family are going to think I’m off my rocker when they tune in for season three for crap like this.

Who the hell wants to watch two women that are 100 lbs kicking mens butts? Half naked too I’m guessing. NOT ME. It’s unrealistic and flat out retarded. Yes, I hated Buffy, thank you. And I’ll hate this, and NO I won't give it a try. It's too major to ignore.

Supernatural was the ONLY show I watched. I actually looked forward to every Thursday. I’m already dreading it. If these women are in fact signed on full time, my tv will be shut off. I didn’t sign on for Sam, Dean, and some bimbos that think they are all that. I signed on for Sam and Dean. I already hate these women and NO I won’t give it a chance. If they are trying to suck in more male viewers they have a huge disappointment coming. My husband, his brother, his father, and all four of my brothers have all said the same thing when I gave them this spoiler. HELL NO. they watch for the action, the horror, the brothers, and the car. None of them reject the idea of seeing some T&A, but in the form of a demon or a guest star. Not every damn episode.

Please for the love of God, Kripke, don’t you DARE defile the beloved Impala and put their nasty whore butts in the Impala. They are not allowed to touch it, or comment about it. Nothing! I beg you! Have some integrity!

Does anyone remember Jo? I sure do. She made me want to turn the tv off. I bit my lip and dealt with the horrible acting and the puppy eyes and the whining. Thank God she was only in a few episodes. No Exit, which is the ONLY episode I’ve EVER seen pimped out by the CW, was a disaster. An episode focusing on whiny Jo and her little crush on Dean? I feel the need to stick my finger down my throat thinking about it. It’s the only episode I haven’t watched a dozen times. And guess what? Look at the ratings. Isn’t that about the time they started dropping? Hmmm… But wait! I have a fantastic idea! Let’s try this again, with TWO females. Ugh!

Whoever’s bright idea this was needs to be dragged out back, tortured slowly and painfully, then shot in the head. I’d be more than happy to… just point me in the right direction.

I would have rather had my show canceled than this. At least it would have went down with pride. They have doomed our show. DOOMED!

Thanks for ruining a good thing. Thanks for nothing.

Why are you doing this to us CW? Supernatural is so perfect as it is - don't ruin it! If Jensen and Jared have so much trouble with the schedule just have the already loved characters appear more. Ellen and Bobby are fantastic, hell Missouri would be fun, and if you REALLY want the ratings to sky rocket, just bring John Winchester back dammit!

I'll grit my teeth and endure two regular females under one condition only: IF THEY'RE LOW-DOWN, NO ACCOUNT, THOROUGHLY ROTTEN VILLAINS. Let the brothers be deceived; let them fall head over heels in love with these baddies. As long as the audience knows how creepy the girls really are, it'll add to the suspense of the series and keep it on track.

Thanks largely to the terrific actress who played her, "Meg" was a great asset to the show. Killing her off was a BIG mistake; SN desperately needs recurrent, visible antagonists--as long as they're well written and very well played. "Silence of the Lambs" was a big success--not because of Clarisse--but because of Hannibal. So, if it's higher ratings you're after, a couple of sexy but thoroughly evil females could do the trick.

But PLEASE don't go mealy-mouthed, nice-nice on us. SN does not need Lois, Lana, Dark Angel, or the "Charmed" school brigade. SN needs to maintain the inimitable originality that's making it a classic. Give audiences what no other show on TV has: a couple of female monsters who make the blood run cold.

Heroic female hunters we do not need. That kind of thing's been done to death. Besides, SN can't afford to alienate a large portion of its regular viewing audience. We've seen our heroes, and they are GUYS!

I totally agree with everything WinchesterLuv said in her comments! I think it's going to be a very exciting and interesting season three. Supernatural will rock no matter who comes on the show! I can't wait I'm excited!

Ok, I seriously trust Kripke to not kill the show. We have enjoyed two AMAZING AWESOME WONDERFUL seasons of our boys kicking ass and, mainly, dealing with the whole family bonding stuff =). There is no way that adding two girls will kill that. Even if they were love interests, so what? It would be unatural for the boys to go about life alone forever. It only shows how human they are which is good if you ask me. It is the reason why they are complex characters. It will add even more trouble for the boys which is the only way to top of the past two seasons along with Dean's little problem with his deal. It adds to the show in an extremley good way. The two girls may not even be on the show forever, maybe for just this season. So, even though there are some ideas of this that I am not sure about, I am COMPLETLEY prepared to leave it up to Kripke and the rest of the crew to do what they want and hand us a great season 3 of Supernatural. I trust that this is a good move on their part.

Posted by Candyce: "I think that HOT singles should have HOT girlfriends RIGHT and they should get drunk one night on the show and STRIP ON A POLE and take their shirts off."

Candyce: please sweetie, this is not what Supernatural is about. This show has integrity and taste. If this is what you want to see then watch a soap opera.

Ok, i seriously trust Kripke to not kill the show. We have enjoyed two AMAZING AWESOME WONDERFUL seasons of our boys kicking ass and, mainly, dealing with the whole family bonding stuff =). There is no way that adding two girls will kill that. Even if they were love interests, so what? It would be unatural for the boys to go about life alone forever. It only shows how human they are which is good if you ask me. It is the reason why they are complex characters. It will add even more trouble for the boys which is the only way to top of the past two seasons along with Deans little problem with his deal. It adds to the show in an extremley good way. The two girls may not even be on the show forever, maybe for just this season. So, even though there are some ideas of this that i am not sure about, I am COMPLETLEY prepared to leave it up to Kripke and the rest of the crew to do what they want and hand us a great season 3 of Supernatural. I trust that this is a good move on their part.

"Already, last season, Sam was stuck in one gear: "Tired of and frustrated with his 'destiny.'" I'm sick of Sam-the-One-Note-Character, because he's my favorite character. Maybe some fans would like to watch him quietly carry on carrying on exactly how he carries on for all season, but I'm dying for somebody or something to get their hooks in him and really mess him up. It's called "character conflict," and Sam desperately needs some."

I agree, Callie. As much as I LOATHE the idea of these two girls being Regulars I have to say that the possibility that this could all lead, finally, to some detailed, complex character development for Sam is intriguing. He's not going to want to talk to Dean about the deal, the demon blood, Mary etc because of not wanting to hurt Dean any further so someone else will need to be the catalyst for some exploration into Sam's 'freaky head'. And if this person (I'm guessing Ruby here) also, hopefully, messes the poor boy up even more than he's already messed up then that's even better!!

Sam (and obviously Jared ) deserves much more depth and continuity in his emotional characterisation than he's gotten to date. Last year this was woefully under developed. If these girls mean conflict for and insight into Sam then I can get on board with that.

Just...please...let them be Recurring.

Supernatural has established the two main characters to a point that now storyline should take the stage. The problem with the addition of two new females characters is placing them into the context of the story and being able to continue the already opened plot left off from season 2. Juggling a larger regular cast and tackling an already expanding list of foes and guest stars can become somewhat problematic. Instead of starting fresh with a brand new set of characters, Supernatural should have worked on using the fantastic guest characters already introduced. It seems like CW executives think the answer to ratings is to expand the eye candy or fast forward the plot. The way to win viewers over is to show how well you can maintain and develop characters even when increasing the complexity of the plot. Supernatural is very good at that, while even some very popular shows crash and burn on the very concept.

Supernatural started with the Winchesters and needs to end with the Winchesters. I've read the sides, and these two new hunters are as Mary Sue as they come. I'm all for new characters, granted they're secondary, have flaws, and much more going for them than just their looks. Ruby and Bela are simply thrust into the storyline for the sole purpose of T&A, and for this I give the finger to whoever is behind the creation of the train wreck that is these characters. I never watch TV, never get into shows, Supernatural is the only show that has drawn me in, and I am angry that such a bad choice has been made which will more than likely spell the premature end of Supernatural. I hope the powers that be read the opinions of the fans, and hopefully realize that when upwards of 90% are against the idea, there's gonna be some serious rating drops. I don't want that, so somebody please rectify this situation, or at least give the girls something more than just looks and the ability to outshine the Winchester brothers. To everyone posting that this reads like the bad fanfiction written by 13 year old fangirls, living vicariously through their characters, I agree whole-heartedly. I honestly thought Supernatural wouldn't jump the shark until at least Season 5 (if it made it to that). It's far too early, I can only conclude that someone up at CW wants to send this show to an grave. I'm a longtime fan, however I don't contribute much to the fandom online. I'm pushing my way to the bar now though, and having my say. We don't need or want such characters on the show, if you need girls then give us some that people can relate to. We already had one Buffy, we don't need any more. A ho, and a self-righteous tart? thanks for respecting the fans CW...

Shows that used recurring females effectively - remember Alias Smith & Jones? A show about two men with chemistry (Ben Murphy and Pete Duel) that used some recurring females (Sally Fields) and a few others whose names escape me right now very effectively. Very effectively because the women's characters were written and flushed out very well and were not so much stereotyped. I think Judy Carnes also appeared on the show in a way that she was a great foil against Pete Duel's character. My point, female characters can be introduced effectively...but writers...give it some thought.

**headdesks**headdesks**headdesks**

Seriously CW what are you doing. Part of me wants to accuse you of wanted to kill the show. I have harped on this every chance I have gotten to on this forum and I will continue to until I see change. You have treated this show like crap since day one. Barely any promotion not only in Season One but Season Two. Yes you poured money into the overdone reality shows and didnt care about anything else. The only respect you have shown for the show is putting it in the best time slot TV has even though its getting killed by the top 3 but you had no other choice because honestly Smallville can no longer compete. Supernatural has surpassed EVERY single show on this network and will continue to do so as long as you let Kripke & Co. do what they need to do. How much easier does Kripke have to make it for you. He has a 5 to 7 year plan... HELLO FRACKIN GOLD HERE how many writers can say they are that far ahead.

Lets not get started on the poor decisions this network has made.. including choices made as WB. Lets not get started on the TV shows that have such a following and were so loved but had lower than hoped for ratings. Lets keep one thing in perspective.... the 3 to 4 million viewers this show manages to hold week in and week out ( that is when you havent screwed with the schedule) can really cause a problem for you not only with word of mouth but the network as a whole. Word of mouth on lets just say... half of that number can easily surmount to triple the number of people hearing negative things about the network which of course means ... no will watch anything you have to offer.

Are the beloved writers of Supernatural being forced to sex up the show? Tell me that Jensen and Jared arent enough? Jensen alone makes straight guys question themselves but that is neither here nor there .... are we trying to resurrect Buffy? If we are this Rubella syndrome is a poor homage. On the other hand I understand, Jensen and Jared ARE the hardest work men in the business period end of story. We love them for it and this alone will warrant them cult status for the rest of their careers but by gods do they need some time off to breathe. With said you have TV gold in the form of established characters - Bobby, Ellen and Missouri, hell even Jo. I would give my right arm for Missouri to back on full time... and Ellen, the potential there should be blinding let alone if something ever happened to Bobby the revolt may be louder than the one for Metallicar.

New characters.. fine. The way these girls were envisioned/written... my inner feminist is screaming negative words I should not put on a public forum. We dont need every show to have that overused Hollywood staple of sexual tension, and just because Jensen was once on Daytime TV doesnt mean he signed up for a night time version of Days of Our Lives... I know I didnt and if I wanted Days of Lives well... Patch is back on it will make more interesting for me. You want the show to move forward... try a trick the networks should have learned a long long time ago... LISTEN TO YOUR FANS.. we are not all brain dead drones that you make us out to be.

If anyone deserves "regular" status.. spend the time with Bobby, Ellen and Missouri... the boys link to John... keep them grounded with their past. This story is about the Winchesters, their destiny, the bumps along the way and how they will survive. Those three mentioned are the key to this now that John is gone. John taught them boys to trust in themselves, he trained those boys to over come anything . Now a new chapter has opened and the game has turned into a battle and this battle is apart of a dirty bloody war. There is no place for the old Hollywood tricks this is the place for REAL story telling. Let Kripke do what he seems to do best.

The CW succeeded in P*ssing off Gilmore Girls fandom, Veronica Mars Fandom, OTH Fandom and....drumroll.... Supernatural fandom.

Congratulations execs at the CW and goodluck in the ratings of your new juvenile programs come this fall.

Keep pissing off your current viewers and there won't be a CW netlet by 2008

Paige- YES YES YES. That is EXACTLY it. Kripke and the writing team, listen to this gal!

Maybe you've forgotten how trite and cliche Dean Winchester looks on paper: a rugged bad boy womanizer who lives on the edge of society and secretly harbors a heart of gold. Don't write off characters just because their character concept COULD be written out in a trite, superficial manner.

I think what Ackles has been able to do with Dean is the exception, rather than the rule. He's kind of awesome, and I haven't really seen many other actors that are that in love with their characters, and that committed to fleshing them out. But maybe the casting team will strike gold twice more. We'll see.

As a fan, I feel betrayed. The fans have promoted this show because we love it the way it is. By word of mouth we got more people to watch than any promotion the CW has tried, and this is how we are paid back? Why can't you people leave things alone, this show needs no fixing. I gave up Greys for Supernatural and never looked back ~ this show is perfect the way it is. I am so afraid that if these new characters are brought in it will be the downfall of this show. Why would you want to do that?

You think it's a lack of sexy females that keep the ratings low? Guess again. Changing SN's formula by adding female cast members won't solve the problem.

Want to know why SN isn't attracting more viewers? For the same reason low budget classics like the early "Gunsmoke" and "Twilight Zone" did. The writing.

Sure, a few of SN's episodes have been first rate, and the ideas behind many have been fantastic. But nine times out of ten, great ideas are introduced in episodes, then quickly tossed out and left to rot.

Writers, the idea is only the first step; the plot is the journey. You've got to build those plots, complicate them with interesting twists, turns, and surprises. Add more action and much more suspense. Tell a meaty, sharply focused story and MAKE IT SCARY! This is a horror show for Pete's sake! Where the devil are the scares? Remember that old saying from books on writing? "Pull up your chair to the edge of the cliff, and I'll tell you a story." First and foremost, the horror writer's job is to frighten the living daylights out of people. That's why they climbed aboard the coaster.

What you writers too often do is try to flesh out thin plots with bloated, angsty, sappy moments between the brothers. No wonder the lead actors are tired! Most of the time, they have to carry the show by struggling to give the creaky, skeletal plots something resembling substance. (And please don't protest that feely-touchy moments are what the viewers want. There are good ways and bad ways to write such moments. More should be unsaid than said.)

Okay. True. Much TV writing isn't any better than most of SN's. But they've got the glitz and special effects to hide it. CW's a poor sandlot compared to those major league fields. If SNs going to compete, its writers have to knock that story out of the park week after week. Doable? You bet. Start by sitting down and taking a close look at some of your best episodes--like the award-winning, "Provenance." And don't forget to take notes.

Then count your blessings.
The ambiance of SN and the concept behind the series are so remarkable, the series is being imitated all over the tube. There's something strange about the archetypal feel of this show, something utterly amazing. Besides that, no television writers have a better cast and crew to work with than you do. And story ideas? What writers have such a vast treasure trove of material to draw from? But, guys, you're cropping off the top of that incredible material and ignoring the rest. Dig in! Get to the roots, then tear them apart until they scream for mercy. You've got to keep it sophisticated, folks, and honest. Don't reduce djinn to blood-drinking crazies from "Miami,Ink" who compel people to mow the lawn after lunch. This is an an ancient, legendary species, born from the hot desert wind. Solomon enslaved them to build his temple, for heavens sake, and they made up the terrifying army of Iblis. Don't write for third graders. Do that, and you'll get a third-rate script. Besides, when you fail to take advantage of your source material, you deprive yourselves of the opportunity to let that material complicate your plots for you. Did Bram Stoker invent the horror classic, "Dracula"? Of course, he didn't. It was waiting there in legend, lore, oral tradition. He just pulled it all together. Remember, unlike "Smallville's," yours is a prime time audience. Adults want stories that intrigue, baffle, and challenge them.

So do critics. If that nasty little tribe likes what you write, they'll tell the audience. And the audience WILL tune in.

Bottom line: Forget the regular female hunters. Whoever came up with this idea isn't going to solve the problem. Only the writers can. And, if the writers you have aren't up to the job, Mr. Kripke, use the money you'd waste on the new regulars to hire writers who know what the heck they're doing. SN is well worth saving.

[This little rant was spurred by a comment that CalicoKat made on the CW board, referring to the idea that maybe the CW is hoping the fans will burn themselves out on this issue.]

Burn ourselves out??? HAH!!!

Supernatural fans NEVER burn out! Every so often, we may spiral into a raging wildfire, which then smoulders for a time...only to re-ignite and become a swirling firestorm. The embers are always just below the surface, kept stoked by our amazing creativity, our insane passion and fierce devotion to Kripke & Co. and the Winchesters.

As fire is a predominant and recurring theme in Supernatural, so we, the fans, are in our natural element. We love it burning hot. Without any further official info or interviews to date, to quell our alarm regarding the proposed new regulars, I fully expect the fandom to continue to burn and sizzle in varying degrees regarding this issue the ENTIRE summer and through the entire new season. Or until the suits back off on the new regulars, whichever happens first. And I, for one, fully intend to fan those flames, carry kindling, chop firewood, toss charcoal briquets and squirt those dazzling blue and orange flames with plenty of lighter fluid. Or gasoline, whichever’s handy. Hey, Dean, hand me a match, would ya?

If the suits actually expect this issue to eventually die down in a matter of days or weeks, they are sadly mistaken and will have an extremely rude awakening. Ever been thwacked by Missouri’s spoon? Repeatedly and hard? If anything, an issue of this magnitude, which is so much bigger and carries far more serious implications than Jo/the Road House ever did, only makes us dig in our heels even harder, set our jaw and say with steely resolve, “We’ve got work to do.” And Supernatural fans are not afraid of getting a little dirty. Or alot. The Winchester boys ain’t afraid to fight and scrap and mix it up...and neither are we.

Perhaps the execs arrogantly expected we’d be so deliriously happy and pathetically grateful at getting our third season, that we’d just blithely accept and swallow anything they tossed our way. Well, surprise. The fandom is standing toe to toe with them, and has summarily tossed the new regulars right back in their faces, like some stinking, rotting fish. Perhaps we should smack the CW up side the head with said fish, throwing down the gauntlet, as it were.

They have effectively declared war on our peaceful, thriving and insanely happy world.

They may have started this war, but we will finish it.

We will settle for NOTHING LESS than the full creative integrity of our beloved show, safely restored to the creative team. Kripke’s vision whole and intact. NO ultimatums and NO interference with his creative process. NO NEW REGULARS. New recurring characters, fine. For us to accept anything less is to sell out. Sell out the spirit of Supernatural. Sell out the Winchesters. Sell out Kripke. We would be guilty of complicity in the demise and destruction of our beautiful, amazing, unique show. Honest to God, I’d rather see it end right now, in all its perfection, than to be a silent witness to the hollow shell and shadow of what Supernatural used to be, after the network gets done with it, IF they have their way.

After all, the network has had such amazing success playing the creative wannabe with other shows’ formulas and concepts. Just gives you all sorts of confidence, doesn’t it? Track records. The past is a pretty good indicator of future performance. Kripke has proven himself a masterful creator. The CW has proven, well...that they’re the CW. They are meddling, inept fools. The CW’s brand of stupidity is nothing short of stunning.

To the CW, I say: screw with other shows if you must, but don’t you DARE screw with Supernatural. HANDS OFF OUR SHOW!!! Kripke’s the only one who gets to screw with our show. Cause he does it so damn well and knows what the hell he’s doing. And he knows hell. Like Hell’s Gate. Awesome. We’d go to hell and back with Kripke. Oh, wait, we already have. That’s OK, we’ll go again. We like it.

We LOVE Kripke. He loves us. You screw with him, you screw with ALL of us. And ALL of us pissed off at the same time is NOT a pretty sight. Wendigos, hell hounds and Reapers are afraid of us. And the YED? Total wuss. Terrified of us, right up until the Winchesters nailed his sorry ass.

People, we are already seasoned veterans of one war! We screamed bloody murder and refused to have Jo and the Road House shoved down our throats. WE SHUT THEM DOWN. WE WON. Why did we win? Because we said HELL, NO!!!

We can draw great inspiration from the Jericho fandom. Their show was cancelled. CANCELLED. Done deal. But they refused to take that. They rose up, screamed holy, bloody murder, singlehandedly increased the stock and fortunes of the nut companies, and lo, and behold, they won another season renewal. They fought back and WON. If they could come back from the DEAD, can we do no less in fighting tooth and nail for what we want and what we believe in? Can we do any less in defending Kripke’s vision, Supernatural and the Winchesters and everything good it and they stand for?

HELL, NO!!!

People, it is time to take a hard stand. If we don’t like what they’re trying to do to us, we must say so LOUD and freakin CLEAR. This is not the time to mince words. Scream bloody murder. It is not always appropriate or effective to be PC, polite and nice. Nice can get you killed. Or worse, get your show killed. Just ask Sammy Winchester. Bet he’s gonna think twice before he turns his back again.

This is not the time to vainly struggle to try to see this issue in a ‘positive’ light or to try to make the ‘best’ of it. We have no duty to accept mediocrity or a watered down version of the Winchesters’ road trip. We owe no loyalty to a network that is planning the cold-blooded murder of our beloved show. I didn’t sign up for the network’s interpretation of Kripke’s vision.

No matter how hard we might try to gloss over it and sugarcoat it, if we HATE the idea of two new regulars, they will stick in our craw. No matter how hard we may try to talk ourselves into accepting or justifying them. We have a duty to dissent, scream, yell and fight for what we want. Cause in the end, WE, my dear friends, ARE Supernatural. As another CW poster so eloquently put it, we, the fans, are Kripke’s garden. Without us, Supernatural and the Winchesters exist only on paper and on film. Intriguing, but with no real passion or soul. But within our hearts and minds, they come ALIVE. That’s where the real magic is...in OUR hearts and souls. WE are part of the glorious creative process. Like author and reader, painter and art patron, it takes two to create magic. WE, truly, are the bottom line. Without us, what is the point of creating a TV show? If you are not creating and writing for the fans, just who the hell ARE you doing it for? And if you piss off and antagonize enough, or in this case, nearly ALL of the fans, we are GONE. And you’re left with, well...NOTHING.

CW, you are well advised to tread very carefully. You have entered a mine field of your own making, not to mention throwing open the lid to Pandora’s box. The Gates of Hell are not in Stull Cemetery or somewhere in Wyoming. They sit squarely in the middle of the CW offices. Your proposed plan shows your contempt for us, for Kripke and for the sovereign creative process. You should take this explosive issue deadly seriously. Proceed with your ill-advised and demonically inspired plan at your peril. We will denounce you, revile you and fight you at every turn to the bitter end. Whether that end is the scrapping of the two new regulars or the end of Supernatural, and by extension, your network, is completely up to you.

Hello again fellow SN fans.

After reading everyone else's views on this subject:

I'll start with an example everyone is familiar with - No Exit - my least favorite episode because it was all about Jo. A hunt she discovered, wanted to be included in and wanted to take the lead with. Why, to feel close to her father. Focus was taken off the lives of the lead characters and it immediately blew up in Kripke's face.

Do these new characters need to be in more than half the season's episodes regardless of love interest status? Maybe they do - we have to wait to know what their exact purpose is. Then again, having them in too many episodes and/or having an episode(s) revolve around these females lives, can take focus off Sam and Dean's journey and brotherly relationship. It is the bond of these brothers that hooked us to this program. Veer too far from that and the heart of the program is lost.

I welcome new characters, but their presence can't change the dynamic of the program. Which leads us the the real question here: Will Supernatural become a new program in S3? This is where the high volume of concern is coming from.

I trust kripke, Gamble, Tucker and the rest of the writing team have learned from their S2 mistakes and do have a good scripted plan for these two new characters and the affects (good or bad) they will have on Sam and Dean.

Be patient. The story surrounding S3 could be exciting and suspenseful.

Maybe you do, but that's got nothing to do with the show called 'Supernatural' - that's just a soft porn F/m fantasy. ;>)

Maybe you've forgotten how trite and cliche Dean Winchester looks on paper: a rugged bad boy womanizer who lives on the edge of society and secretly harbors a heart of gold. Don't write off characters just because their character concept COULD be written out in a trite, superficial manner.

Anyway, it's foolish to think Sam would ever fall for that illusion when he has the guiding light of his concern for his brother, together with the Family Business.

Uuuuugh, somebody else made this argument to me already. Already, last season, Sam was stuck in one gear: "Tired of and frustrated with his 'destiny.'" I'm sick of Sam-the-One-Note-Character, because he's my favorite character. Maybe some fans would like to watch him quietly carry on carrying on exactly how he carries on for all season, but I'm dying for somebody or something to get their hooks in him and really mess him up. It's called "character conflict," and Sam desperately needs some.

I don't think this is the way Kripke wants to go. I remember in the Season 1 DVD interview he did say he didn't want to do any Harry Potter-esque / witch episodes as well as the spell-rhyming thing, even if the writers constantly bug him about it. The show is and will always be about "TWO brothers with chainsaws in the trunk, cruising the American landscape" ... No echoes of Charmed, please. This isn't supposed to be a campy show, and well it shouldn't.

We're speaking about two different things. I'm speaking about the occultist magic that already has a strong presence in the show.

The Key of Solomon, and other classical grimoires, the work of Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa and John Dee, Catholic ritual, Enochian ritual, these elements are heavily influential in Sam and Dean's universe. (They didn't just make that stuff up.) This isn't cute chanting verse, it's darker magic, it's scarier magic, and it's more subtle magic. If you'd like to learn about its history I reccomend esotericarchives.com.

Doesn't the CW have enough "hot" 20-something guys and girls shows? Supernatural stands apart as the best drama on TV and the heart of the show is the relationship between the brothers, the family dynamic, their destiny and their search. To muddle this with T&A and "hot" girls is to destroy its very foundation. These new characters are not necessary and will negatively impact the ratings. Please don't turn this amazing drama into another hot guys and girls show. it would really be a shame.

sorry to say but, the girls will be in 12 episodes. I am NOT watching the episodes with only ruby or bella in them. thats just REALLY retarded. GODDDDD. i was so excited for this season and now, they have ruined my motivation with these garden tools. IT'S A SHOW ABOUT TWO BROTHERS FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jaz: you are absolutely right.

Personally I don't care for episodes that have nothing to do with the Winchesters. (No Exit, have not and will never rewatch this episode.)

Kripke and the execs at the CW need to rethink this decision because if they start airing episodes without either Jensen or Jared or episodes that don't revolve around the lives of Sam and Dean, fans will flee and they may end up cancelling the show before the 22 episode run.

I AM STATING THIS RIGHT NOW:

I WILL NOT WATCH SUPERNATURAL IF THE WINCHESTERS BEGIN TO PLAY SECOND FIDDLE TO TWO TARTS.

Ohnomrbill
Xena was a guest/recurring star, not a regular. If they start these two out as recurring, to see if the fans like them, I have no problem. But to stick them in as regulars, and one better than the boys? Hell no. Even Xena never upstaged Herculeous. And these ones are already starting out that way. Good way to make the fans hate the characters. Make them look better than our heroes.

I don't know about these spoilers for S3 they make me a little nervous. I don't want the focus to shift from the brothers and their journey hunting evil. I am going to take a wait and see attitude right now, I just don't uderstand the need to bring two new characters on the show when we have Bobby and Ellen and there are so many other past characters that could be brought back, I'm still waiting for those Vampires to come back for revenge for killing Luther and for all we know maybe Ash isn't really dead and could show up,I still wish they hadn't killed Andy he was great! Theres so much potential from past episodes to bring to season 3 we have Gordon I'm sure he will get out somehow,the feds,Jake and Duane Tanner, we really don't need new characters. Like I said I'll wait and see,but If I don't like it you'll hear about it! Just look at the uproar over these spoilers has caused, I pity the CW if this doesen't turn out cause Supernatral Fans are gonna tear you up and spit you out!!

From Callie below: My dream for a recurring female character who might become a love interest has always been an attractive girl who works at some kind of occult bookstore (one that teaches you the REAL spells, in chick tract language).

I don't think this is the way Kripke wants to go. I remember in the Season 1 DVD interview he did say he didn't want to do any Harry Potter-esque / witch episodes as well as the spell-rhyming thing, even if the writers constantly bug him about it. The show is and will always be about "TWO brothers with chainsaws in the trunk, cruising the American landscape" ... No echoes of Charmed, please. This isn't supposed to be a campy show, and well it shouldn't.

Mr. Kripke and the rest of the executive producers, we'll hold you to that.

I love the idea of new characters coming on the show they could bring something exciting and interest storyline, so I think it's worth trying. Some fans don't want a love interest or sexual tension in the show because your jealous and using the series regulars as an excuse because you don't like seeing Dean and Sam with any females that comes on the show because you wish it was you and want them for yourself PERIOD!. Come on were do you think "Scary Just Got Sexy" came from, two sexy guys, so news flash people theres going to be sexual tenison between the people they meet is only natural. I'm surpised they haven't alreadly canceld the third season because of all the complaining. Third season is going to be a hell of alot better than the last two seasons. Supernatural Rules now and forever!

Please, let's not jump to conclusions! What we know is this:

Victory! All the superbads from seasons one and two are now defeated. The Yellow-Eyed Demon is dead. Meg is mostly dead. Random unpredictable evil: 0 Winchesters: 44. Gordon is in jail. (insert Monty Python "yay" sequence.). But wait! There’s more…

Fear! Wait. What? Bad guys? Sorry, we don’t want any. Well, OK. How about Bunnicula? It was scary. What we have now is 200 indeterminate hell-bound beings walking around loose, besides the headline monsters, but nothing causing too much paranonia. Because what we are ALL thinking about is…

Paranoia! Our Intrepid Heros are going to be oh-ever-so-slightly preoccupied with Someone's impending death and whether or not Sam is really himself. BUT! Mythology III will need a catalyst besides Sam’s internalized angst and Dean’s attempts at soothing his soul with quarters and Haagen Daz. Need some really good incentive to temptation here to make these arcs really curve like a blue steel rollercoaster. Which leads us to…

Loathing! Need more anatogonists to replace all the dead ones. Tempting ones to follow the archetype of the fallen hero that rises again. Well, how about pretty girls? With guns? And no conscience? Like the Red-Eyed Demon, but in their face in their dreams in their hair not leaving them alone making them wonder what the point of all of it is when there’s no way to get out of it when the last thing they freakin need is to be distracted from the mission … of saving… what were they doing?

Nah, they’ll all hate that.

I truly love the idea of Sam being seduced to the dark side. I love the idea of a cutthroat bottom line mercenary who is passionless about her involvement with the Supernatural

Maybe you do, but that's got nothing to do with the show called 'Supernatural' - that's just a soft porn F/m fantasy. ;>)

SPN is a show with an authentic masculine vibe about two brothers on the road fighting evil; not two brothers suddenly forgetting who they are because two chits whammy them with their ruthlessness (the latter meaning a lack of grace and beauty BTW).
Who wants this cliche on a show famous for it's emotional integrity? Poor Jared has already had to get his kit off once in an attempt to raise the ratings ... let's not subject our boys to even more stunts like that!

Anyway, it's foolish to think Sam would ever fall for that illusion when he has the guiding light of his concern for his brother, together with the Family Business.

I understand the boys have been asking for more regulars to lighten their load. However, I fear this will take away from the show. Whatever happened to doing more flashbacks? Also, what about expanding Jim Beaver and Samantha Ferris' recurring roles?

Before you praise the Rubella decision, keep in mind that regulars are not the same as recurrent characters. "Sam" and "Dean" are regular characters. Regulars are a fixed and constant part of the series. They can't work on any other shows; they're given top billing; and one or more of them must have a regular role in an episode. JP and JA will become part of an ensemble of actors, together with these female "hunters." In short, "Supernatural" will no longer focus solely on the Winchesters. If you want to see JP and JA, you may have to wait to catch a glimpse of them on screen between long Rubella scenes. Or you may have to hold out for a week or two in the hope that the next episode will feature the boys.

There is really no indication that this kind of thing will happen. Having two actresses on retainer is a far cry from giving them full episodes of the show. They could just as well use them in five minutes one episode and ten in the next.

Someone likened their potential to that of Xena, and that would be the optimal case. Two women we wouldn't MIND seeing for an episode, or their own whole series, because they both fit in and we love them both and they become a part of the SPN family. (Even if they're an evil adversarial part of our family like the YED.)

Whatever else I'm uncertain about, I firmly trust Kripke and the crew not to take the core focus of the show away from the journey of the Winchester brothers in this third season, and from the sides we've seen so far, these characters will be used as supporting cast members, not co-leads.

Here's a thought,
Remember the series Hercules with Kevin Sorbo. A hero and his buddy adventuring and fighting evil. In it a charecter named Xena came along and after awhile she got her own series, along with her own buddy. To me it's starting to look like the same thing might happen if the these characters are put into SN. Could be the networks way for trying to come up with a new series. I think the same was tried with SV ala the Justice league

Well the characters sound great to me just not sure about perminent 'love interests' the reason why supernatural works so well is it isnt' like other shows out there. frankly the whole 'will they/won't they' stuff just annoys me and makes me switch off. Though I love the show very much so will support whatever but I am just saying that romantic stuff is ok in passing just not a full time thing. this show is about two brothers. I kinda hope these girls are gonna give 'em a run for their money! I'd love to be on the show myself playign a hunter/chosen one type so am totally for it just leave out the perminant romance huh?

"As Ohnomrbill said: Besides if you want realistic "mercenary/hunter women" think of the women who were in the movie "Aliens" Vasquez comes to mind. I also laugh at the beauty queens in shows running along with all types of weaponry, they just look silly."

This is an extremely good point. Both Ackles and Padalecki bulked up like crazy for these roles (compare with Ackles on SV and Jared on GG... they were skinny pretty boys back then!). Can we expect the same level of dedication and attention to detail from the women? And also, the same lack of skin for the sake of skin... ie, many layers of tshirts and flannel?

I've got mixed feelings on this one.

Two new "regulars": Fine with me depending on casting and storylines.

Love interests: Fine with me as long as they look the 20 something age they are depicting (No offense to Alona, but she looked 16)

Hot, sexy 20 somethings: this is the issue. What exactly do they mean by this? Skinny mini big breasted girls dressing slutty for a demon fight? In other words ANTM types fighting demons? Please NOOOOOOOO!!! Hopefully Kripke understands sexiness is not about showing losts of skin and cleavage and he casts females with some muscle tone so that the toughness of the characters is believable. (I'm thinking about how ridiculous Alona Tal looked holding a rifle.)

Kripke, I beg you, No Barbies and no Skippers.

PLEASE KEEP SUPERNATURAL'S DIGNITY INTACT.

One more thing:
Bring back Samantha Ferris!! Even though she may be too "old" in the eyes of the CW execs, she had a natural sexiness about her. (Jensen will be 30 next year - does that mean he's going to be too old for the CW? - lol)

The real catastrophe here is that "Bela" and "Ruby" will be REGULARS on SN. What does this mean? In a practical sense, it means that JP and JA will no longer be the only stars of SN. They will be forced to share the spotlight with two females. Whole episodes or the major part of episodes may focus on "Bela" and/or "Ruby," with "Sam" and "Dean" making only a brief appearance or no appearance at all. In other words, don't expect to see "Sam" and/or "Dean" in every episode of Season 3.

Before you praise the Rubella decision, keep in mind that regulars are not the same as recurrent characters. "Sam" and "Dean" are regular characters. Regulars are a fixed and constant part of the series. They can't work on any other shows; they're given top billing; and one or more of them must have a regular role in an episode. JP and JA will become part of an ensemble of actors, together with these female "hunters." In short, "Supernatural" will no longer focus solely on the Winchesters. If you want to see JP and JA, you may have to wait to catch a glimpse of them on screen between long Rubella scenes. Or you may have to hold out for a week or two in the hope that the next episode will feature the boys.

And what will this do to "Supernatural"? First, it will destroy the basic concept of the show: a series about two brothers crisscrossing the country hunting demons and monsters. Second, it will cause SN to "jump the shark." If the show focuses on four regulars, rather than two, many fans won't watch episodes that don't feature the boys. Ratings for those episodes will hit rock bottom, pulling down the series, and SN will be cancelled by the end of Season 3.

Whoever is out to destroy SN is about to succeed.

Note to CW: Samantha is hot. Ellen is awesome. If she leaves, the world will be a dark, dark place and Bobby won't have any fun. Smirk. Ahem.

In other news, anyone remember Nicki Aycox, I mean Meg? That's right. She is young and also hot and was massively evil. And also she's D-E-D dead. She was the second best bada*s on the show (after the YED). Now what?

I say, BRING IT ON.

Hollywood has taken feminism to a ridiculous level, writing in as many uber-cool, uber-tough, uber-hot babes into shows where they're simply not needed. Supernatural is supposed to be about the brothers, their relationship and their journey not some cliche gun-totting chick and her boobs.

But most importantly? This isn't femininsm. Authenic female equality would be for female characters to be written with the same diversity and allotment of both strengths and weaknesses as their male counterparts. It would be writing well rounded and out of the mold female characters who are engaging on their own merits instead of stereotypes. Unfortunately, Hollywood on the whole seems to be a long way off from understanding this.

As Ohnomrbill said: Besides if you want realistic "mercenary/hunter women" think of the women who were in the movie "Aliens" Vasquez comes to mind. I also laugh at the beauty queens in shows running along with all types of weaponry, they just look silly.

I truly love the idea of Sam being seduced to the dark side. I love the idea of a cutthroat bottom line mercenary who is passionless about her involvement with the Supernatural, that's something we haven't seen done before. These characters have plenty of potential, for sure. I am ready and willing to adore these characters. At the same time, people's concerns here are all very valid and reasonable.

To quote Tazzi, bellow: And that's not even what bothers me. Why does it have to be super hot chicks in leather with powers and attitude? Why can't they be normal?

I'd like to quote karasu amagoi from TVWOP here:

per soilse8899: I thought after Carmen the show had finally got a handle on what a possible girlfriend should be like.
And therein lies the crime. From the brief bits we saw of Carmen and Jessica (and never mind they were a fantasy), there was nothing particularly extraordinary about them. Carmen was a nurse, not a jet fighter pilot. Jessica was nice - not saccharine, not bossy, just a person. As they were Dean's fantasy they must have been Tucker's as well. Some people might have found Sarah a bit precious for Sam, and Dean's choices were varied (Cassie was an adolescent fantasy as much as Carmen was an adult one; who else? Officer Kathleen not 'hot' enough? Straight men beg to differ) but the show can write solid, entertaining, human female people. What's the problem?

My dream for a recurring female character who might become a love interest has always been an attractive girl who works at some kind of occult bookstore (one that teaches you the REAL spells, in chick tract language). You know. Somebody who expands the Winchester's universe by not being exactly the same kind of person the Winchesters are, provoking new sides of the boys we wouldn't see in the usual situations to unfold. Unfortuanately, that's probably going to remain a dream.

Don't do this. Please. Just don't do it.

MARTY ILU!!!!

your response in this thread should be cut and pasted over, and, over, and over again. Then it needs to be put in a document file and Faxed to every exec at the CW over, and over and over again, until their narrow little minds *get* it - which may be too much to hope for.

Did they not understand what went wrong with VM? Do they not understand that every other program they have is CRAP except Supernatural? Do They not get that the only reason for low ratings is the time slot of hell and the fact that they DON'T even attempt to properly promote the show? I can not even BELIEVE that the FEMALE president of CW is supporting dumping women, who happen to be unbelievably good actors (Samantha!) BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT YOUNG AND HOT. I'm embarrassed to share the same gender.

LEAVE OUR SHOW ALONE.
it was fine the way it was, i know guys who watch supernatural, not all guys need a hot girl in very episode to watch a show.

Don't like the idea. I watch the show for the creepy monsters & things that go bump in the night. If I wanted sexual tension I'd go read a romance novel or watch "the bachelor". I'm assuming most of your fans are true horror buffs & don't watch the show for sexual entertainment. I will give it a chance though. I would like it more if they were strickly fighters with a ever so slight hit or sexual interest. Just enough to keep you wondering & guessing not in your face sexual tension. The brothers need strong team members like Ellen & Bobby. I want to see them fight evil & I don't want to watch them being distracted by trashy hunters. It would be cool to see them team up with the girls to get Dean off the hook with his soul contract & maybe owe the girls a favor in return for thier help.

"Sexy..." "Ruthless..." "Heartless..." "order[s] top shelf vodka which she kills in one drink..."

Nothing special really. Sounds a lot like me. I like Armadale when I have to expel the 'demons' that haunt my company.

I'm also new to the series. Watched season one on video and am up to the latest repeat. I absolutely HATE the Jo character and hope she's not being reincarnated in another form. There have been strong women characters that I have enjoyed watching on screen so I'm cautiously optimistic. I'll reserve judgment until season three begins but will be heading for the exit if things go horribly wrong. Love the clever feedback and the idea of bringing back dad. Good looks sure run in that ‘family’.

Supernatural deserves a better network with innovative executives, not Fox-reality-drama-wannabe-tween-queens who think the whole network should subscribe to girl-power! Gag me with a spoon.

Supernatural is a show about two brothers on a journey together -- not two brothers and some Mary Sues inserted into the storyline 3 seasons after a formula has been established. Get a clue! It didn't work last season, so what's gonna change this time around? Nothing, except now you've doubled the dose of what we hated last season. Which means double the hate.

Leave the show alone!

Just quit messing with the show.

Here's where I think the show is going:

Season 3... Sam and Dean dynamic become the Sam/Ruby/Dean/Bela square; Ruby (daughter of 9 generations of hunters) prevents Sam from saving Dean from going to Hell; Dean dies a painful death (and finally gets a nod from the Emmy nominating people after that poignant death scene) and Bela kills Sam for the valuable Crystal Skull (whose powers the Brothers Dean might have uncovered had they not been distracted by the female hotties); Ruby is de-possessed by the Meg demon; Ruby discovers she has a long-lost half sister Dee and initiates her into the hunter tradition and both subsequently guard the Crystal Skull left by Sam and of course, take over the Supernatural franchise from Seasons 4 through 10; Bela (who really was an undercover CIA agent so deep in the hunter world and was originally tasked to bring down criminals like Sam & Dean but has discovered that there is money to be made in supernatural artifacts and curios so has allied herself with a rich and powerful demonic antique dealer) now is after sisters Ruby and Dee, chasing after the Crystal Skull whose power is akin to Jesus' chalice -- if you fill it with bug juice and drink from it, you will never die.

And more importantly, Jensen, Jared, and Eric Kripke move on to bigger and better projects. Everybody is happy

To Whom It May Concern:

I'm sure you have received countless numbers of emails, feedbacks, and not-so-nice remarks about the decision to add two female regulars to Supernatural. Let me begin by saying that we understand this is an attempt to draw a larger audience to the show. Your efforts are appreciated, however, we, the fans, are doing our best to do the same. Please do not discount our campaign to bring in more numbers. Learn a lesson from CBS. The executives of CBS cancelled Jericho and had to endure the humiliation of receiving tons upon tons of peanuts until they finally relented, promising us another season of Jericho. We are a powerful resource and should be handled delicately.
The money you have decided to spend on adding two new characters could be used more wisely to increase the advertisement of the show. There simply isn't enough media attention pointing at Supernatural. If the problem is with the gender demographics, then by all means, use the money to raise the caliber of special effects or action in the show. Men respond well to weapons, car chases, and fighting. It's been proven.
If the cast of the show, namely Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki, need some more time off to recoup from their grueling schedules, the fans are more than willing to accept back-stories involving Little Sam and Little Dean. We are aware of the introduction of the graphic novels, Supernatural Origins, and that it will take the reins on the back-story; however, not all of us are avid readers of graphic novels, and therefore are not interested in that particular media.
We of “The X-Files” generation have been searching for a show that can deliver the same quality of action, drama, intrigue, and comedy as the characters Fox Mulder and Dana Scully delivered for nine wonderful years. Supernatural has met that criteria and has been proven to be a show worthy of being followed faithfully. Please tread carefully when introducing the female characters. The fans have become very attached to the brothers, and we will not take kindly to anyone who may damage their relationship or the integrity of the show.
Know that we will be watching, and if we are not happy with the development of the show, we will be more than happy to let you know. And to Mr. Kripke: you are a genius, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Thank you for your time,

Saltgunners

I HATE the idea of new girls added to the show. I watch Supernatural for the brotherly relationship. I don't want to see this show turned into another night soap opera.

The only way I can accept these new girls is if they are evil, totally and permanently evil. No redeeming qualities at all and no midseason redemption so they turn into pussycats. And please only have them in 4-5 episodes.

We have tons to learn about Sam and Dean and their family story and I am jealous of any time spent on other characters. I want the total focus of the show on Sam and Dean.

*sighs* I'm not even sure what to make of this spoiler. I felt sick to my stomach the moment I read it. Supernatural is the only show I watch on a regular basis and the only show I care about. I have become emotionally attached to the Winchesters and the thought of 2 regulars coming in just doesn't settle well with me. I'm all for new characters but just not as regulars. I don't see the need for it. The show is about Dean and Sam on the road, not anyone else. I'm not big on the romance factor either. I'm not looking for a ghost type soap opera. My husband is a big fan of the show as well and his first reaction was "I hope they don't screw up this awesome show with romance drama crap" The whole reason he loves the show is because it isn't like every other show on TV. I also don't agree with any of this if it's being forced on the show. I have faith in Kripke and I just pray that somehow this doesn't ruin the show I've become so very fond of.

If these two characters are Kripke's idea and are coming in to advance the whole Hero's Journey template, which I hope is the case, then it may not be so bad even if the mandate that they simply be 'hot' and kick ass is pretty pathetic. It would have been refreshing to see some creativity and originality in these two characters if we are to be lumbered with them as 'regulars'. And not have them seemingly pinched from the pages of bad fan fic.
But, if they have been foisted on the show by The CW, which I suspect is the case, and are just to inject some gratuitous, soap opera -ish T&A and brain numbing love interest into the show then all the dark, bleak, edgy originality that made me love SPN is well and truly gone.

There have been many characters seen on the show over the past two years who people would have loved to see kept on as recurring, maybe even regular, characters but who were, inexplicably, killed off - John, Andy, Ash, Ava, Meg, Caleb and Pastor Jim. If J and J need a less heavy schedule these characters could have been used successfully. Plus, what about flashbacks to the boys' childhoods and teenage years? A lot of people would love to see a flashback of the Stanford fight, for example. There are multiple ways of reducing J and J's workload without the need to bring in these hot, kick ass demon hunter chicks. Face it, it didn't work with Jo. Why does The CW think it will possibly work this time around?

CW, if you want more viewers and higher ratings for Supernatural, adding two new REGULARS to the cast will not do it. GUARANTEED to fail. Judging by the fans’ intense, extremely vocal and very articulate negative reaction, it’s ALREADY failing. Big time. And it’s still over three months till the new season. You want to add new RECURRING characters? Hey, we’re behind that. Always have been.

CW, you can’t win this one. It will blow up in your face. And no one will call 911.

However, there’s another strategy and option for you. It’s a brilliant concept.

Aggressive promotion and advertising of the best damn show you’ve got. Neat, huh?

CW, you sink your promotional efforts and dollars into Pussy Cat Dolls *cringes at name*, which, ten years from now, no one will remember even one of the winner’s names. It’s a reality show. Contestants are a dime a dozen. Maybe cheaper. Promoting ‘empowered female’ stripper wannabes. That’s not empowered, that’s low class. My God. Encouraging young women to become strippers. Now there’s a career choice with a great future. Yeah, great role models.

But I’ll guarandamntee you that, ten years from now, EVERYONE will remember the Winchesters and Supernatural. And they’ll name names, quote quotes and tell you every story in loving detail. With passion in their eyes and their hearts.

The sleaze-fest known as Pussy Cat Dolls gets the bucks and all the attention, while the superior-in-every-freakin-way Supernatural, a series about family, heroes, love and loyalty, the golden successor to X-Files, languishes, treated as some bastard step-child. How insane is that?

Clearly, the CW executive offices have been overtaken and re-populated with shapeshifters. * dials the boys to advise them of their next big case and gives driving directions to the CW offices *

Man, the boys are gonna have their work cut out for them. This is gonna make Nightshifter look like a cake walk.

WTH kripke?

Although I'm not saying that this sucks or anything I think this might not be such a good idea..The show has worked PERFECTLY as it is for 2 years.. why fix something that ain't broken? Didn't they notice what happened with Jo?.. And now they want 2 of what Jo was (a potential love interest/hunter wannabe). I don't get it..

I Love this show way too much for stop watching it like some people are saying that they're gonna.

And btw, If they wanted interest recurring roles that give Jensen and Jared a bit of time and do something great/different for the show, they shouldn't have killed Andy AND John.

I can't see this going well. I just can't. It's obvious that they want to add some T & A to the show.

And that's not even what bothers me. Why does it have to be super hot chicks in leather with powers and attitude? Why can't they be normal? Dean and Sam grew up as hunters and they aren't all bad ass in your face people. Same for John, Bobby, Ellen, Jo and even Ash. They were hunters but still people.

I loved the character Meg. Thought the actress did a great job and was a good enemy for the boys to have. Same with the first crossroads demon. Wonderful job! If you have to bring girl power on board, do something different. Take a different path rather than the traditional one.

Don't push the whole love/lust interest thing down our throats.

This is just so "Network" tv. And that is not a compliment.

I agree with some of the other comments that the sides for these girls sound like somebody's really bad Mary Sue fanfiction - the two "hot bad girls," one without a conscience and one ready to hop into bed with anyone (Trust me, I have no problem with sexual freedom, but she sounds more like a parody than anything else). Honestly, it sounds like someone split the character of Faith from the Buffy and Angel 'verse into two characters and put her on Supernatural. They're "bad," they're hot, tough, and super experienced - but underneath it all, they're really just good people who have faced hard times in life and are now seeking: a)redemption, b) revenge, c) someone to love them for who they are, d) other. *Yawn*

This show was great when it was just about the family interaction and the bond there. I'm just afraid that adding these two at the same time is going to turn it into a different show altogether. Not every show needs some lame forced romances just to get viewers or to be a better show. If I wanted to watch a show with angsty whiny 20-something romance, I'd watch Smallville or some other such tripe. Supernatural is great because it's so different from the rest of the stuff out there. This show is not broken, it does not need to be "fixed."

And there's nothing wrong with dissent and disagreements - it doesn't make you any less of a fan just because you question decisions that have been made. I just hope that Kripke and the others will be able to keep control of this and not let it totally ruin the show. Hopefully the characters will not be totally intrusive and if Kripke et al see that they are not helping the show, they will write them out or at least cut back on their appearances. I have faith, because of what they've given us so far, that the show will continue to deliver great storylines and acting - I just hope that faith is not misplaced.

One could also say that a "true" fan wouldn't want the show to change its formula. That a "true" fan would love the show for what it is and not what the network execs want to turn it into. Everyone watches the show for their own reason and the overwhelming majority is very concerned about the potential to lose what they love the most about this show. Clearly, they are all "true" fans or they wouldn't be this upset about it.

Whether the new characters are male or female, it would make no difference. When it comes down to it, people don't want the basic premise to change.

I'd rather fight to keep the show I love than "support" it into an early grave.

There are tons of other ways to spice things up without adding regular characters and screwing up the dynamic that make this show special.

New characters - I think they would bring something exciting and interesting to the show.

Dean, oh Dean - awesome around the ladies and sexy as hell doing it. And a great hunter.

Sexual tenison - bring it on thats more exciting than Sam bitching and complaining about every damn thing that Dean does and says.

Fans - Jealous and using series regulars as excuse and some of you know why.

Sam - Boring, no wonder they are bring in new characters.

So if you were really a Supernatural fan you would watch it for what it's worth. Kirpke I have faith in you inlike the rest!

Kirpke and Supernatural Rocks!

They sound like bad fanfiction characters written by teenage girls wanting to live vicariously through them. I don't like it at all.

Yeah, series regulars can mean as little as say 6 episodes but it can also mean up to 22. So, even if they start off with only a few episodes, if they think people like them they could stick them in every episode eventually. I'd rather stay off that slippery slope.

This show is a roadtrip show with two brothers. Peripheral characters showing up on occasion is fine but showing up in even half of the episodes? No freakin' way.

Don't do it.

This news has ruined my week :/

Perhaps other networks should take a page from the CW, which, rather than make its decisions haphazardly, acts according to a well-defined series of rules. Here's a sampling:

Rule 1: Repeat mistakes. If one season's attempt to expand the main cast evokes fan fury and results in lower ratings, expand the cast again--only, this time, lock the characters in for a full season by contract. Viewers must be taught that the network is in charge and will not bow to viewer pressure--even if it means network brass end up pounding the pavement. Remember the CW slogan: If at first you don't succeed, fail and fail again.

Rule 2: What counts is attracting as many potential viewers as possible. To do that, hire actors with universal appeal. This means your regular cast should be Asian, Hispanic, Black, White, gay, heterosexual, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, liberal, conservative, short, tall, overweight, underweight, meat eaters, vegetarians, female, male, undecided...You get the picture. If your main cast isn't representative of these groups (and more), keep hiring regulars until no one in the viewing audience feels left out. Remember, all viewers are bigots and chauvinists. If people see characters who are different from themselves, they'll turn off the show and look in the mirror.

Rule 3: Recycle, man! Inventing new characters is hard work and time-consuming. It's far better to parcel out traits of old, established characters and patch together new regulars. For example, if a snarky, tough character with a wry sense of humor has been popular with audiences, simply create another snarky, tough character with a wry sense of humor. As long as you take the precaution of changing the gender or jacket of the new character, audiences will think they're seeing something fresh and praise your inventiveness. And the bonus? You get two popular characters for the writer's price of one!

Rule 4: Think with your downstairs brain. As every rabid feminist and horny male TV executive knows, the world has only two kinds of women: moms and tarts. If you want to attract males (the source of the REAL buying power in the country), forget the plain jane housewife types. Bring on the T and A! Would the meanest, toughest, kick-ass best hunter of the most terrifying baddies on the planet be a sexy, beautiful, twenty-something female? WHO THE HECK CARES? It's the slobber factor that counts. Anyway, males are too stupid to wonder how that perfectly coifed, ruthless twenty-something hunter managed to get more experience than men who've hunted their whole lives. Hey, this is a war against hell itself! Geez, if George Bush's brain were in the same place as the CW's, those Pussy Cat Dolls would be bumping and grinding the enemy into dust by now.

Rule 5: Betray the fans. Remember the crazy nutcase in "Misery"? Perfect image of a fan. Sure, many have advanced degrees and try to come across as sober, intelligent people attracted to SN for its literary and artistic merits, but the CW (always thinking with its downstairs brain) knows better. It's the hot guys fans like--end of story. So if fans get a little ticked off at the news that the cast is going to be expanded to include hot chicks, pay no attention. As soon as the new season arrives, the brothers will be back and the hormone levels will steady out. The nut job fandom will get used to the female Sam and Dean because they'll have no choice. After all, the fool viewers worked like Trojans to keep SN on the air and up the CW's ratings. Nothing's going to change that. Besides, even if those millions of loyal fans do decide they'd rather not watch the Ruby/Bela/Ssm/Dean show, who
needs 'em? The CW has all those slobbering males out there just itching to take their place.

Rule 6: Treat your best series like the worst and visa versa. This is, perhaps, the most difficult rule to follow since it requires putting people at the helm who manifest tastelessness and ignorance of GARGANTUAN proportions. Fortunately, the CW seems to have such execs in abundance. Their main mission is to exercise their ineptness by (1)forcing their absurd ideas on creators of excellent shows (2)leading everyone to believe that a lack of T and A rather than a poor timeslot accounts for low ratings and (3) adopting and promoting trash television while doing their level best to reduce outstanding programs to garbage.

And, finally, Rule 7: Cut the CW's throat. This is instinctive. No elaboration is necessary.

First of all I do not underdstand why they have to introduce two female hunters in the series...Where there can be other oppertunities to introduce female characters like their lawyer, FBI agent, any victim....I just do not get why they have to be hunters..Dean and Sam have plenty of help from Bob and Ellen...

Any character who will do Job like Dean and Sam will not work, until or unless they are total evil like Meg...

*Taps computer screen* Hello? CW? Are you listening? *Crickets chirp* Well, I saw that coming. You know this network doesn't relaly care about the viewers, guys. it's all about impressing that oh-so-important male demographic becuase, you know, chicks don't deserve to get a show they like. You've gotta flash some femme skin to bring in the ratings, which is weird, becuase I thought the CW had this whole 'girl power' thing going. Isn't hot, skinny, female perfection degrading to the average-height, average-weight, average Janes out there?

The idea COULD work, if, as someone up stream pointed out, they were used to illustrate something about the guys at this point in their story. But the way the preliminary descriptions have been put out to media sources by the PR flacks ("Sexy mercenary... with a heart of GOLD!!!!1!1!" and "Slutty ruthless hunter more seasoned than Sam!!" Uh, these guys have been hunting their whole lives, who could possibly be MORE seasoned than that?) makes them both sound contrived, desperatee and unappealing. Supernatural has a steady and very solid core audience. The way to build on that is not to insult our intelligence.

That said, I have to wait and see how it plays out. And it bears repeating:

BRING BACK ELLEN HARVELLE ASAP. Samantha Ferris is smokin' hot and an incredible actor, and she was almost universally loved by the online fandom. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

This harebrained idea stinks of network interference! Come on, T&A alone won't increase viewership. Move the show to another timeslot, promote it... or better yet, Mr. Kripke why don't you shop around for another network?

From the beginning this show has consistently dared to be different with its: lean cast, very dull or no colorful background/scenery, totally unfashionable wardrobe, and 70's/80's classic rock blaring from an equally unfashionable 60s Chevy classic. But damn has that formula worked! It is so far (IMO) the only adult-friendly show in this tiny teeny-bopper "green" network. So why mess with the tried and tested?

If I wanted to watch hot female bods who think they are waaaay cooler than the male population, I'd rent Buffy or VMars. If I wanted to watch twenty-somethings-pushing-on-thirty-pretending-to-be-high-schoolers-mired-in-webbed-relationships I'd tune in to Smallville & OTH (and rent the earlier seasons).

One hot "recurring" chick I could live with, but two? Didn't last season's end provide new avenues for these storylines i.e. "was Mary special", "why did Mary know YED", "is Sam gonna turn evil"? And lest I forget, Dean's only got a year before he goes bye-bye.

Tsk tsk I pity the girls who will land the roles of Ruby and Bela. They better not wander into internet fandom unless they're thick of skin :-) Oooh the season premiere is still 3 months away and irate fans are still pounding away at their keyboards ...

I'm not at all bothered that SPN is choosing to widen its cast. I've felt for a while now that the show was too narrow and needed a female recurring cats member, although having two at the same time is going to be a little jarring. Let's not freak out until we see these actresses, and when they suck have at the venom!

Basically, if this is a Kripke idea, I'm all for it. If it's a mandate from the suits, I'm not so thrilled.

Either way, everyone involved should keep in the forefront of their minds one single thing: the Winchester boys, and their bickery, sweet, complex partnership, ARE this show. If these new characters are presented as "better" than our protagonists, we're gonna hate 'em. I guarantee it. If they take up time at the expense of dealing with the fallout of last season, we're gonna hate 'em. If, God FORBID, you people try to foist some sort of love triangle on us, I hold no fan responsible for their actions.

But if the characters are secondary, and their purpose is to draw out aspects of the Winchesters that we need to see at this point in their journey, then I'll enjoy the story. If, like Gordon, they're there to show us how you can go wrong as a hunter, that's fine. But don't try to shoehorn Buffy and Faith into my show, and emasculate my protagonists. It'll blow up in your face so fast, you won't know what hit you.

I must admit, this news comes as a shock to me like I see for so many other fans of the show. What has attracted me to this show has been the portrayl of family ties of the Winchester family, especially the relationship between the two brothers. The chemistry between the two brothers is amazing and if two new regulars are introduced, there will be less time to explore how the brother's relationship develops as they face new obstacles i.e. Dean's one year time limit. It would also be sad to see these two female regulars added to the equation just to add an element of romance in the stories because that is not why we watch the show. We have all come to love this show for the simple storyline of two brother's on a journey to hunt evil and I hope that the creators and exectuives remember this as they prepare for season 3.

I for one am not interested in regular LI's, it's one reason I watch this show, there aren't any! I watch it for the brothers, brothers together, not separated. I don't mind if these two are supposed to be advisaries, but not love interests for either brother.

I'm much more interested in seeing character development of Dean and Sam.

Two hot, sexy women hunters added regularly spell stupid show to me.

Wow if the CW doesn't get the point from all these posts I don't know what else we could do!

Heather

I have to say I agree (although not quite as strongly) with the other comments on here. Kripke has a potential disaster on his hands if this isn't REALLY CAREFULLY PLANNED AND EXECUTED. If the actors are half-assed, picked for looks over ability...they're going to be hated, that simple. Hollywood has taken feminism to a ridiculous level, writing in as many uber-cool, uber-tough, uber-hot babes into shows where they're simply not needed. Supernatural is supposed to be about the brothers, their relationship and their journey not some cliche gun-totting chick and her boobs. Plus Dean becomes a total moron around good looking girls and it would suck the big one if he spent most of next season in drool-mode!
Now I am allowing for the fact that these charcters might not suck, they might not be MarySue's...I think Ruby had potential to be a great catalyst for Sam going dark-side...only time will tell.
One final thing, I know Kripke probably doesn't bother with these boards, but on the off chance that someone he knows ever sees this...please, you have created a wonderful series that is interesting and amusing and great to watch! If we wanted to watch a romantic soapy full of angst and tension, we'd watch Grey's Anatomy or some crap like that. There is no need to mess with a formula that works so well. If it ain't broke...

I kept wondering why the CW would try to sabotage a great show, the best they have IMO. And then it dawned on me. The yellow eyed demon isn't dead...he's working at the CW. I mean first of all, SN is in the time slot from hell, right? And then, rather than keep the fans united or thank them for their support for season 2, they add two new REGULARS and cause a rift among the fans. I'm telling ya, someone needs to go to the person who had this idea and utter "Cristo" and see what happens.

Seriously, if they think T&A is the way to go on Thursday, they should put Top Model there. They won't though, because they KNOW it is the time slot from hell.

Okay, that said, I'll throw in my 2 cents worth. I'm with the majority, recurring characters sure, regular characters no. However, I have complete faith in Kripke, and even if this is network mandated, I think he can make it work. Maybe shades of Meg, a wonderful villian I thoroughly "loved to hate" and excellently cast. So if it goes that route, I'll not complain.

Bottom line is this: I will watch Supernatural as long as Jensen and Jared are in it. I love this show. It is the ONLY one I watch regularly. Even converted my ex-husband to the show...he's only seen 4 episodes of season 1 but got hooked in season 2. His take on the whole girl thing? "Why in the hell would they do that?"

Regardless, I'll watch. I want 3-4 more seasons at least...and it's gonna take a lot more than a couple of girls to take me away from this show.

I love those of you that say to have "faith" in Kripke.

Fans of X-Files had "faith" in Chris Carter too until he totally ruined Xfiles.

Fans had "faith" in J.J. Abrams too When Alias was still on,but J.J. went onto "Lost",Then MI 3,amongst other things.

To have "faith" in one persons creative genius can work against fans.
Of course the networks also play a huge role in the future developments of the shows. It is a buissness and it is all about ratings and money that SPN can make the CW.

So for me,the only true faith is that in the fans.

Please CW network don't add two new characters because it will just ruin the whole story of the show and If you do add them think how many fans you are going to lose and I want Supernatural to last for a long time. If you think the show is not getting much viewers promote more except adding characters and ruining it. Simple as that.

What exactly does regular mean? The only way I can see regulars working is... what? Carpooling? Random meets at hunting sites? Wild chases all over the country? Leave the boys alone and get back to the road trip story lines.

I don't think they need to add more "chemistry" to the show. I started watching the show to see a road trip between two brothers. I liked the stand alone episodes of the first season. You don't need to be like every other show out there by establishing relationship drama. Keep the road trip going.

Post script:

"Alas, Jensen hasn't confided to me who he's dating/married to/divorced from/heterosexual life partners with/otherwise partnered to. Even more vexingly, he has yet to stop by to confess his undying love for me. Get to it, Jensen!"
Hahaha...Sarah, that was rich! Also, liked how you covered all the bases. Still, my hope is that the CW will see the err of its ways, back off all this silliness and write Ellen back in, PDQ.

"Stick with the cool weapons and the cool ghost stories. The only "female" regular we need on this show is Dean's car and she kicks ass."
David? Word.

Most fans are pretty unhappy with this news.

They don't want their favorite show messed with.

I wonder if the CW will get the message?

I think that anything Supernatural does will be great... but i loved ellen. so as long as they keep up how well they have been ill be happy.

Am I the only one who is thinking maybe Dawn O wants the show to fail and there fore she wants to add characters knowing the people who watch it, might stop? (Yes, I totally think it's her idea and not Kripke's.) She has never really liked Supernatural and if it fails, she won't care one tiny bit and then have a reason to cancel it. I have faith in Kripke, but sometimes it might not be his choice.

The all important central theme of Supernatural is FAMILY. Suddenly throwing two brand new regular characters into the mix just wouldn’t mesh and would feel completely contrived. That’s one of the many beauties of this show...situations evolve realistically over time...feelings, plans, relationships, personal issues, etc., just like in any real family.

Any potential new, untried, untested characters will not yet have earned our respect nor the right to be so closely or so frequently involved with OUR family...Dean and Sam, and by extension, Bobby and Ellen. I do not believe that anyone would have any real objection to having Bobby and/or Ellen appear a little more frequently...not as regulars, per se, but as more frequently recurring characters. THEY BOTH HAVE ALREADY EARNED OUR LOVE AND RESPECT. THEY’RE FAMILY. They’re hunters. They’re already integral to the story and for either one or both to disappear or fade away would be so wrong. Without them, the boys would truly have no other family.

Our Winchester boys would NEVER dismiss or blow off family members in favor of someone new, pretty and young, I don’t care who they were or why. Dean and Sam, of all people, truly understand what family really means. For them, family comes FIRST, which, according to Dean himself in Folsom Prison Blues, includes LOYALTY to FRIENDS.

i think season 3 should not have two new girls the cast is fine the way it is. i would however love to see more jo. what happened with her and would like to see how she is around sam after what he did to her.

i want jo back she rocken and ellen but jo mainly. i think she was great with dean. please bring her back

I personally think it's an awful idea! what's so ggod about this show and what makes it different from other shows is that it's a show about TWO BROTHERS! not a confusing show with a big cast, and to change that would make what makes the show so special, look like just another show. So please as many many fans like me have said, "if it aint broke don't fix it!"

I don't watch Supernatural for romantic story-lines, and the lack of them is part of what I love about the show. It's all about Sam and Dean not Sam, Dean and two girls (or any other two people).
I can't believe the CW would so far removed from self-preservation that they want to screw with the ONLY good show they have?
Crazy!

It sounds simplistic and trite, but consider: Jared and Jensen are likely to burn out with the hours they pull, and I think it's pretty critical that they are given a break. Adding two new females in the context I suggest pretty much alleviates the main fannish fear - Mary Sue characters. If cleavage is one of the motivating factors, then imagine the promise of girl-on-girl? Supernatural would get a lot of press, and it would definitely fill a void - I can't think of a good lesbian couple since 'Buffy.'

I would love if at least Bela was a lesbian. Imagine Dean thinking she's coming onto him with kisses on the cheek and so forth and then finding her taking about a woman...

"Did think you were my type?"

I was thrilled to see a lesbian character in the season finalie. As a homosexual, it's hard to find shows to deliver the kind of relationships I see in real life... (And another lesbian scifi couple would go a long way to alleviate the lingering pain of Willow's sudden hookup with Kennedy in the final season of Buffy. Way to undo some great work! "loloz, but she's a lesbian, m i rite? So even if her lover just died she needs to be with a gurl. Acting talent not required!" -- Okay, yes, I was offended and scathed. @_@)

Anyway! I'd be all for the lesbianism, obviously. And if it was handled responsibily on the show and not used as a gimmick I think it would be very promoteable in many circles.

I don't mind the idea of having women on the show. However, I think they need to be characters like a Meg or a female version of Gordan. To try an make the show in to a soap opera, isn't what people want. My husband and I have been watching the show since the Pilot. Personally, I like the scary movie idea every week. I must say this season hasn't been the best. Some episodes were great. Yet the beginning of the season w/the Roadhouse stunk! I really wish the writers would just stick to the original concept of 2 brothers on a road trip hunting demons!

WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU THINKING!!!!!!!!!! You have a great series here don't screw with it! I personally am so sick of the Hollywood stock "kick ass" women Frankly I think season 2 was a step down from season 1 because of the introduction of the Roadhouse.
What demographic are you trying to find? If I wanted to watch "Baywatch or Baywatch nights" I'd rent them. Don't screw with the concept. And no I'm not gay and lusting after Dean and Sam. Something I think you are missing is relationship between Dean and Sam, even if they weren't brothers, the camaraderie is great. Go after that demographic, I think anyone who's been in or serving in the armed forces or police/fire would relate to it. It is usually so poorly done in most productions but in SN it feels real. Don't screw with that by adding some "Hot Babes" Besides if you want realistic "mercenary/hunter women" think of the women who were in the movie "Aliens" Vasquez comes to mind. I also laugh at the beauty queens in shows running along with all types of weaponry, they just look silly.

The thing that truly burns me up is that the CW has told Kripke et al to lose the character of Ellen (since she isn't young and hot, and scares away young viewers says the CW) and have these two new characters instead. If you look around the net, you'll find a direct report.

Now, I was all set to give these new characters the benefit of the doubt, maybe they would be actual characters and not cookie-cutter bimbos put in for some stupid and pointless 'love-interest' plotline like Jo was, but since the PTB are telling Kripke to boot Ellen and put in these two?

NO FRIGGING WAY.

I hope the CW PTB see these comments, because there are a lot of good points made. All I really have to say is:

Leave the "new hotties" to the Chick of the Week roles.

*****BRING BACK ELLEN HARVELLE! *****

WHY????NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Please for the love of God, no!!!!!!
Supernatural is Sam&Dean only. No sassy bimbos, no other regulars and no ROMANCE CRAP!!!!!!
What happened to Bobby and Ellen, to the storyline of Dean's deal, one year to live, Sam must save him and all of that?
If you want some more female characters, then bring back Lenore, Meg or even the crossroad demon.
This show needs bad guys, action and the great Sam&Dean relationship.
Not teeny crap storylines.
Please please please no!!!!

Hot, Female, Hunter-babes... what a great idea! Why didn’t anybody think of this before?! Oh wait... the WB actually DID think of this before... in 2002-2003 with a show called Birds of Prey (punch in the title at TV.com if you have no idea what I’m talking about). Hot, female, 20-somethings, clad in black leather and ample cleavage. The PERFECT formula for high ratings and a successful series... what's that, you say? ... it only lasted 13 episodes and not even a full season? I’m absolutely shocked! Why in the world didn’t that magical male demographic tune in to stare at hot hunter-babes?!? Pardon me now while a go get a towel to wipe up my dripping sarcasm!

There are currently too many conflicting definitions of "regulars" in this case to set my mind at ease. The ONLY ones who have earned the honor and right to be labeled as "series regulars" are Jensen and Jared who have worked their as*** off for the past two years creating such multi-layered characters and excellent episodes. To baptize 2 newbies with such an honor is disrespectful to the work and talent of these stars.

Bring on the new characters, sexual tenison, ect. I think they'd be great additions to Supernatural main cast, I mean we've had two seasons of just Sam and Dean let's get a little variety. It will be a exciting and interesting season three thats for sure. I really hope Dean get one of them this season. It's Dean's time this season, Sam had his last season with Madison the werewolf it's Dean time to have his to make up for Cassie. I personally can't wait for season three.

I see it this way if you complain and stop watching because of the change you wasn't a real fan to start with, I bet Kripke & Co think the same thing.

I'm pretty certain that the best way to incorporate these characters is if they are lesbian.

It sounds simplistic and trite, but consider: Jared and Jensen are likely to burn out with the hours they pull, and I think it's pretty critical that they are given a break. Adding two new females in the context I suggest pretty much alleviates the main fannish fear - Mary Sue characters. If cleavage is one of the motivating factors, then imagine the promise of girl-on-girl? Supernatural would get a lot of press, and it would definitely fill a void - I can't think of a good lesbian couple since 'Buffy.'

In any case, I trust that Kripke et. al won't screw up the show, and I wish them all the best.

Well, well, well, and here I was thinking *I* was the only one who didn't particularly care for Jo! (LOL) Nothing against Alona, its just that we don't NEED and don't WANT sappy, ridiculous, drawn out, romances in this show! I mean, Jess, rest her soul, is a critical piece of Sam's history and I'm sure it's no shock to anyone that Dean has a rather colorful (no pun intended) past when it comes to women (i.e., Route 666). And please don't misunderstand this - I TOTALLY ENJOYED watching our boy Sam "relieve some tension" with the ill-fated Madison. I'm also 10000% in support of a*s-kicking females as evidenced by my top-notch, A#1 Halloween costume of choice, Lara Croft. THAT SAID, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", completely applies here! We've got our boys, their tension, an awesome ride, dark locales and creepy challenges galore - what more could we possibly need than that? (Besides, of course, a couple of autographed photos.....LOL) ;)

"Regulars" meaning "regularly recurring", right? I can live with that... as long as they don't show up more than we've seen Bobby do in the past then all is good. The fact that they're sexy female hunters throws me off a little bit, though, just because I've never been very interested watching or reading about females. Mostly because no matter how tough they are they always have that girly side to them. Anyway, let's see how the writers do...

To booboo: Jensen isn't married. He has a girlfriend but that is it. Still means that he's off the market though.

Alas, Jensen hasn't confided to me who he's dating/married to/divorced from/heterosexual life partners with/otherwise partnered to. Even more vexingly, he has yet to stop by to confess his undying love for me. Get to it, Jensen!

I just link to fun stuff we find on the web, which in this case was an online-only feature from People magazine that proposes Jensen as the single alternative to married David Beckham. And that's all I know.

Now, about the potential new regular characters -- I haven't read the sides (I avoid spoilers as much as possible, considering this is my job), so I can't comment on the characters as written. The sketchy news I've gotten mentions nothing about love interests, which is just fine. My completely unspoiled theory is at least one of the women in question is actually hunting the boys themselves, so one of the chick's hitting on Sam may not mean love interest so much as "Here I am using my feminine wiles to attempt to ensnare this potentially demonic and/or wanted by the FBI person." And hey, if one or both of the new folks are nemeses, that could be interesting.

But like most of you, I get a little wigged out by the news that these two new women are series regulars, which implies they may appear in quite a few episodes. That, I fear, will detract from the main story of two brothers on the road fighting the good fight -- unless, as I mentioned, they're hunting the guys, which opens up some possibilities.

So I'm tending towards disappointed, but trying to remain cautiously optimistic while I reserve judgment. How's that for covering all the bases?

I'm in the target demographic for this show, I believe (mid-twenties, female), and adding two new, untested characters as regulars straight-off makes me a little nervous. This show is a roadtrip. How are we supposed to add new characters to every episode, or even every other episode, without feeling like it's being forced?

The "girl" factor has never really been an issue, for me. I don't miss a constant feminine presence on Supernatural... I've loved shows about women, like Alias, and I love strong women on mixed-gender-focused shows, like Claudette from the Shield and Kay Howard from Homicide. But I guess it's just not a big deal to me, for this show. I love the characters we have, and think they're interesting and sympathetic "even though" they're men and I'm a woman. That's the mark of a good character, I think.

No, no, no, no, no and, oh, NO. What friggin' rocket scientist came up with this crackpot idea? Are you trying to completely destroy a good show? Supernatural is about SAM AND DEAN. ALONE on the road together fighting evil. It's not about Sam and Dean and two other REGULAR hunters. You will totally alienate the fan base with this disaster waiting to happen.

Do this in S3? You jump the shark. Period. It can not work. It would have been better if you had just canceled the show. At least one would have been left with good memories and not the slow, painful death this is doomed to.

I must agree with most people I'm not too impressed with having two new regular characters thrown in at the 3rd series. everything that the show stands for ie brotherly love, iscolation from others etc will be gone.

Okay... Here's what I think. The whole idea is gonna blow in their faces. Having not one, but TWO female hunters as REGULARS in the show will totally suck. Jo wasn't even a regular and most people disliked her, including me. Having two females to pick up the slack will surely be a total drag and people will so lose interest in the show. Especially if they make the boys look like amateurs. I mean, seriously... Charmed was the show for "female power". Why bring it in Supernatural as well.

The whole idea is messed up.

I don't mind an addition to the cast, as long as it doesn't take away screen time from the boys...but really, do they have to be sexy women? I'm tired of the cliche. Why can't they just be strong, average, non sex symbol woman for once?

I posted a less positive comment, earlier, but, dude, now that I've read that "series regular" only means they're contractually obligated not to take work that interferes with Supernatural, and won't necessarily be in every episode? (And after an interesting discussion on supernatural.tv about Joseph Cambell's "the Hero's Journey" which Kripke says the show adheres to.) I'm a lot more psyched about these additions! Color me eager...

It grieves me to say it, but I have not read a single thing about either of these characters that I like. "Sexy..." "Ruthless..." "Heartless..." "order[s] top shelf vodka which she kills in one drink..." "...make Sam and Dean look like the Hardy Boys..." I honestly don't anything unique or intriguing about them. The final description ("Hardy boys") especially grates me. I have nothing against strong women, but I have everything against women who try to upstage strong men. For heavens sake, what's so wrong with a man being the hero? The fact that Supernatural lacked such obnoxious women is one of the many reasons I loved this show in the first place. It is also one of the reasons why I support Jo. Don't get me wrong - I have great issues with some of the ways she has been written in the past, but one thing I cannot critisize is that Jo never tried to upstage the Winchesters, not even in No Exit. If Bela and Ruby are added to Supernatural, it looks as though they will introduce a most unwelcome cliche which Supernatural has henceforth avoided: irritating, emasculating women.

What disturbs me even more is that these women are intended as series regulars. I have already expressed why I believe Bela and Ruby will be disdainful characters, but to add such (apparently) dreadful characters to Supernatural as regulars is simply appalling.

Should they be added in Season 3, I will be happy to give them a fighting chance. Though I don't see it, I imagine they can be given some sort of interesting plotline in which they might serve a purpose. However, to be brutally honest, I hope these women never appear on Supernatural or, if they do, that their purpose in the plot is short-lived. With all due respect to Supernatural's marvelous writing team, I fail to understand how even you could make these characters worth watching.

Though I am excited to meet new hunters in Season 3, I encourage Supernatural's team to not abandon the characters introduced in Season 2. I fully agree with most fans that Supernatural successfully avoided the "Sophomore Slump," but I believe that Supernatural had (compared to Season 1) a sloppy sophomore year. One of the places this is most evident is with the Roadhouse characters. It seems that when the online fandom broke out in controversy over the new characters, Supernatural's team became intimidated and backed off of Ash, Ellen and most especially Jo. The result is that none of these characters were given a storyarc or purpose. We, the online fans, who have kept up with the Roadhouse debate understand the context of their lack of screen time, but the approximately 3 million Supernatural viewers who are not regularly online simply see 3 characters who were introduced but have yet to fulfill a purpose in the Winchester story.

Before I would encourage Bela and Ruby being added to the Supernatural mix, I would encourage the powers that be to give a storyarc to Ellen, Jo and yes, even Ash ("dead" though he may be). I'd love to see how much Ellen really knows about hunting, and what Ash's technology can really do to help. I'd love to see how Jo (who, with all do respect, cannot be held responsible for Supernatural's ratings woes) has grown in her year hunting alone both as a human being and a huntress. (Though some online fans will undoubtedly intially gripe, the timing has never been better to write Jo back into Supernatural as a character with altruism and a purpose.)

Bela and Ruby I see very little potential for. There are many recurring characters (Ellen, Jo, Ash, Bobby, Gordon, Missouri) whom I see great potential for and would love to see developed and given purposes in the war. Likewise, there are many characters who have not been introduced, but alluded to (Steve Wandell's friends, Gordon's connection at the Roadhouse), whom I'd love to see introduced into Supernatural's story.

All this is to simply say that I believe Kripke and co. would do well to scratch Bela and Ruby and re-focus their time and energy on characters who have already been introduced and/or alluded to.

When I first read this spoiler I was scared cause I didn't want my show to lose its loyal but comparitively small fan base.
And this whole deal with these female characters being REGULAR and not RECURING just makes me quesy in the stomach. If this is true then I just hope that they are well written and thought out. We don't need any Mary sues which are the central characters of many bad fanfictions. If this change is made due to the crazy schedule of Jensen and jared then I understand but they don't need to resort to this. They can always bring in bobby and Ellen. If Ellen doesn't come back then I will be very disappointed.
I don't like the idea of this new addition but I will make a judgement when I watch the episodes.
Is there any chance that This is a foiler? I hope to god that it is and another thing that I suspect that all this is the CW's doing. There's no way that kripke and co would try and pull something like this after the whole Jo debacle. Well I hope everything turns out well.

I was pretty upset when I heard the news, but then I got some more information and I'm really not too worried anymore.

I think Lola mentioned something about how ridiculous it would be for the girls to show up where the guys are all the time. I'd have to agree. The country is a pretty big place so them ending up in the same spot would be a little hard to swallow unless they planned to meet.

Sam, having come back as something different perhaps, might be the target of these girls. Also, nobody ever said these girls were together. Maybe the girls won't even know each other. Maybe one of the girls is just another form of a character we all know and love - Meg. I mean she IS a hunter in her own right.

As for being better than Sam and Dean? It wouldn't be hard to do if the girl only cared about hunting and the black and white of it. Sam and Dean are special because they care about the people they're helping and even about the beings they hunt. They aren't going after non-human things. They're going after bad things. There's a difference. To some of these hunters, there isn't. So maybe this girl is a better hunter because she's a (not nice word here) and that would mean she's not a friend of the boys.

Either way, I'll keep watching the show until the boys are told to go. Hate to say it, but if one of them is ever kicked off, I think the other would just tell the creators to drop dead and leave, too.

Or maybe it will go the way of Buffy and switch networks. As long as I can keep watching, I'll be happy.

I have to admit the news about the two new female's is disturbing. I'm a relative late comer to SN--just started watching half way into season 2. I'm obviously not the target demographic (female, over 40). SN is the only show I watch on TV at all. I can't stand the rest. The focus keeps getting younger and if I want to look at plastic surgery people I'll go check out my daughter's Bratz dolls.

I want this show to remain as it has been: about the dynamic of the two brothers and about their backstory. I enjoyed other characters they added over the season in recurring roles--but I think these two new chicas don't fit. I saw someone post on a site that maybe they could be a demon (like Meg) or an FBI agent pursuing the boys--that might work.

But another demon hunter? Better than our boys? While still being a "hot young chick" *snort* unlikely. I sincerely doubt they have the same training and experience as our boys do. I read the sides and wasn't too impressed. I'll try to keep an open mind but (as one fan has already said) the back of the Impala is for us, the fans.

I don't like the idea of adding two new series regulars. This show already has everything I need: uniquie premise, great writing, an awsome visual feel to it, not to mention two of the hottest guys I've ever seen who also happen to be great actors. To add this new chicks would mean taking away screen time from our boys which I don't like at all. I watch for Sam and Dean and their relationship. If they really going through with this crappy idea, it only proves what a crappy network CW is, it doesn't deserve a show of this quality, they clearly don't know what to do with it except ruin it. Anyone remember Sliders season three? They ruined that excellent show in its third season too, not only with crappy scripts but also with adding that awful chick (Maggie). And it only took one chick, not two. Overkill much? In the last two years of obsessing over Supernatural I had the feeling that it was too good tobe true.... seems like I was right. Please, please CW, don't do this to us!

Supernatural is the story of a family's journey. The Winchester's I do believe they're names are John, Mary, Dean, and Sam. Then you have the adopted family of Bobby, and even Ellen. I hope CW, cause I'm sure it's not Eric K. intentions, is not about about to make this into some soap opera with two Mary Sues with guns a blazing thinking they're Buffy and Faith...Don't make them better, faster, or stronger than our boys, I beg of you.

hi, i love the show and the cast who worked so hard on keeping this show alive, but my friends and I think it a bad idea bringing feamles on the show and especially who are better than our boyz isn't realy going ot work for us i mean everyone is jumping to conclusions and if they are getting such a bad reaction already imagine what wiil happen if they really do introduce them as regulars in season 3, than i guess we will just have to say goodbye to our favourite show, and i really really don't want that to happen i only watch this show and love to death its about the boyz and their family i don't want any females coming in and destracting the plot or even ruining the show....lets see what happens...

I started watching this show because it was something different. I loved the way it was written thought the brother relationship and the chemistry between the two actors is what hooked me. If that dynamic is going to be interrupted...and I can't see it not be if you're talking bringing in TWO new REGULARS. If we're talking the kind of screen time Bobby gets, and the characters are going to be WELL written, not another Jo disaster, I'm okay with it. If it's going to be a tit and arse show to draw the male viewers, I'm definitely out of here.

This whole thing feels terribly like the disaster Smallville turned into, where the main character has been shoved aside by all the noise they've brought in to up the ratings and make the show interesting. You will kill this show if you screw this up. I don't care how often Sam and Dean get laid, I'm not some teenie that can't bear the thought of the boys having love interests. However, anything that screws with the brother dynamic, the reason people have been watching the last two years, is not welcome.

I'd much rather see you do less episodes to give the boys a break, than ruin the show with unwelcome regulars. It probably would have been better to start with ONE new regular or to have the newbies as semi-regulars.

all in all, I have to say that I am terribly apprehenisve that this is going to turn into a major disaster, but will watch and hope that Kripke and co. learned from their Jo mistake.

If done correctly, this could be okay, but..... it really bothers me that the chicks are supposed to be better than Sam and Dean. Whose show is it anyway?

This just smacks of network interference.

I THINK THAT IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO ADD TOO MORE PEOPLE TO THE SHOW EXPECIALLY GIRLS AND REALLY HOPE THAT SAM GETS ONE OF THEM BECAUSE ITS ABOUT TIME HE GOT OVER JESSICA AND GOT HIM A GIRL BUT I SURE WOULD BE SAD BECAUCE I LIKE TO THINK THAT BOTH THE WINCHESTER BRTOHERS ARE MINE LOL BECAUSE THEY ARE SO FINE OH AND SMART AND BRAVE BUT MOSTLY FINE I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEW SEASON BECAUSE THE LAST SEASON LEFT ME WITH SO MANY QUESTIONS

Reoccouring's ok, regulars? NO. Please, for the love of the Winchesters, don't try to turn this into One Tree Hill or Hidden Palms(which I find dumb by the way)! That's the one reason I love Supernatural so much because it doesn't come across me as soap opera. Heck, any show who can have a friend of mines' Grandpa(no joke at all) hooked should stay away from the Greys or CSI factor.

Look, I liked Ellen just as much as the next person but that was just because she had a great story behind her(and she reminds me of my mom, but thats' another story), the discriptions of these two just come off as annoying. To me, it sounds like who ever came up with this has been reading too many bad fanfics.

If the network pulled a Hitler on that idea, I have to agree with most people when I say "It's Kripkie's show! Let him do what he wants!!!!"

Thanks for listening!
Paige N.

I'll just get to the point...

If they are well written, acted and have a lot of likeable spunk and charisma, I'm fine with it.

The only things I don't want to see is them occupying the back seat of the Impala, or being better hunters than Sam and Dean.

I think they could add something fresh to the show, but I'm comfortable with the way it is now...I just hope they don't lose sight that it's really about brothers! I have faith Kripke will make it work though.

ahhhh let me add, not regulars!!! I don't want to see them every episode!! lol

This sounds like an awful idea! I've read the sides for Bela and Ruby and I think they just ruin the brotherly dynamics of the show, the conversation Sam has with Ruby should be with Dean! Maybe if they showed up VERY occassionally I could handle it, but if they're regulars I don't know if I could bear to watch. I'm actually starting to miss Jo (and that's something) at least with her we got Ellen aswell.

Adding two regular characters will be disastrous, there is no other way it can go. The focus of Supernatural is suppost to be the two brothers. Two pretty little girls is merely a distraction. This isn't the O.C. We don't need a bunch of teeny boppers running around. Now, of course, ass kicking women are great. So make them pop up on occasion, as Ellen and Bobby do. This way, it fuels the acting skill of Jensen and Jared rather than take away from the root of the show. I don't believe for a second that the casting of two females was purely coincidental and that there is no attempt at birthing relationships. The addition of too many new characters has been the downfall of a lot of great shows. Don't let it become the downfall of Supernatural.

The idea of having those two new characters added to the show makes me want to throw up. Hopefully it won't end up ruining our favorite show, because honestly Supernatural was just perfect the way it was. Whoever thought about this, and I know it wasn't Kripke, should come out and apologize if the show goes straight to hell.

No i don't think anyone would be forgiving.

Anyway, I wish SPN luck, because I love this show and I'm praying real hard for those two to go away or if they're around, to stay that way, just around. Sam and Dean ARE the show, they don't need anyone else.

Good Luck, Mr. Kripke! I have faith in you in this battle against the dark side and as 'someone' would say: May the force be with you.

May the force be with all of us! Stay Strong SPN.

Oh God no. This information has depressed me so much! I agree completely that Ellen rocked, but Jo made me cringe everytime she came on screen! The main thing I'm worried about is how it will effect the relationship between the brothers - cos isn't that why we watch the show?!? Other characters might get in the way of that. Also I'm all for women being kick-ass of course, but on tv they tend to over do it a bit, by having the girls be better than the boys at everything, and the boys are our heroes! They need to be the best. Anyway, overwhelming opinion - BAD IDEA!

Please Leave the show as is. If you want to add some reoccurring roles that would be fine.. great even. But Regulars... oh the sound gives me bad chills....no regulars. The show is about the boys and I don't wanna have to spend time watch some stupid other people that I don't care about just to get to the guys. I feel added these "regulars" is going to really hurt the shows ratings and that it will lose viewers. I know a lot of people who watch the show and don't have the internet, so they have no place to voice their opinions but the ones I know all hate the idea of regulars and think it might affect their viewing of the show. Jensen and Jared do an amazing job and I love ever minute of them on screen together. Please leave it like that, for the fans.

I've got to join the rest of the fans here in saying that the idea of new series regulars makes me blanche. I've got absolutely no problem with these two female characters. I've got no problem with recurring sexual tension in the show as long as it doesn't distract from the point of the thing -- two brothers busting ghosts. I've got a huge problem with some network exec jamming two female characters into every episode to slog down the jam packed action and the journey of the Winchester brothers.

What Supernatural needs isn't new characters. It's to be promoted by its network. The Search for the Next Doll only scratched at maintaining our ratings with about 10x the promotion and on an easy night. Imagine what a proper SPN campaign could do for the show.

Ok, my vote is, these two hot chicks, on better hunter than Sam and Dean, screw you, noboby is better than Dean,and to make one hunter better is a big mistake right there. Nobody likes their heroes upstaged.

I would feel this idea would be as stupid had they inserted two hot guys in there too. We have two great hunters and hot, so, the chicks are for what? To satisfy a tiny section of fans that like to Mary Sue their way in the back of the Impala? And this is progress? Not likely. I'm tired of shows dominated with kickass females and this one is so much better than the guys and isn't she so kickass, yada, yada. The main thing about Supernatural was, its male leads. They're hot, but more, they're talented and they give the show a unique quality that hasn't been seen in television in a long time.

So, let's ruin it all by making this show into another teeny bopper super chick flick that is saturating the television programs today. Yah, to draw what, maybe a handful of male viewers while at the same time risk losing the core fans who not only tune in every week, but invest in the merchandise and promote the show?

If they want to give the guys a break hey, good idea here, how about some flashbacks? How about exploring Bobby, Missouri, meeting Jefferson and Joshua, and there are a million other ways

If this has to be, how about not making them regular because you know what, the idea never, ever works and the show dies a slow and horrible death.

If the CW wants more viewers, here's a new concept, get it out of the timeslot of death and promote it more. That works a heck of a lot better than adding some T&A that's not even necessary.

This smacks of an attempt to bring in males viewers with the liberal use of cleavage. Secondary characters can be useful and entertaining if they are intelligently presented and further existing story lines, but sufficiently interesting characters already exist in the "Supernatural" world without adding new ones. Ellen and Bobby are the best by far, and there are others as well.
I hope the writers are VERY VERY cautious and inventive with this idea, or they run the risk of alienating existing fans.

I don´t understand the need to mess up with the show. The show, as far as I know, It´s about TWO BROTHERS. nothing else, I think people like Helen or Jo would be fine, like they were last season, but regulars...Come on!!! if this guys weren´t good actos, it wouldn´t matter if they are goodlooking, would it? At least, not for me. I don´t want to see another soap opera.
I read something about they work long hours. Well, I´m sure lots of actors would love to be in their place right now. They knew what was going to be.
Anyway, I hope the show continues as it is now. If not...

(dont kill me for this!)
I might be up for the new characters. I mean the show could use a little change. but then again it might be a bad idea. honestly, I'll just have to wait and see. thats if the CW sticks with their new idea.

I think it robably wont work but who knows. I hope season 3 rocks!

DON'T MESS WITH A GOOD THING!!!!
Simply put! SPN is great the way it is. You add two new female leads it messes with the already great dynamic of the story being told just to add new eye candy to the mix for what "maybe" better ratings! Don't think so!

If anything it will turn fans away! Can we say X-Files Season 8 and 9!!!

I cannot get across how much I HATE the idea of two female characters being brought on the show. Hell two male character being brought on the show would piss me off too. New characters just don't fit. With all the plot line they left us with in Season 2, there is absolutely no room to waste time on anything else. Dean has one freakin' year to live, Sam still might be evil, Mary could possibly be one of the special children, is Ellen evil? What does Dean's amulate mean? Why did his eyes bleed? The list goes on and on. There is PLENTY of plot line to work with, why bring on two new characters that will just get in the way??? AND last but not least, the main reason I'm so pissed is this: I watch Supernatural for the brotherly relationship between Sam & Dean and I don't want anything to mess that up, and I fear that these new women will do just that. I'm also pissed cause I heard that the CW MADE Kripke add these two characters? What the bloody hell, CW??? Please let Kripke write the show the way that he first intended it to be like. In Kripke We Trust!!!!!

I don't care about the girls.
Please bring John Winchester
back. If they can bring
Sammy back from the dead,
they can bring John back.
Kripke said this is a show
about family and that includes Papa Winchester.

Please, this is such a bad idea.
I beg the CW to scrap this, the show is about Sam and Dean.
Many fans are already thinking of not watching anymore, please don't do this.

To make it so bad, he wasn't in a magazine called people, even though they said jensen and davd beckham are off the market hotties. I happen to bought that book, i didn't see jensen or david in there whatsoever, I am so mad about that because some stupid fans said he were going to be in there and it turns out he wasn't. They must be in a married celebrity magazine book, because neither of them sure wasn't in there. I don't think david or jensen would ever get in a single book because hello, there both married.

2 words.....BAD IDEA!!!!!
I think everyone else already said the same things everyone else is thinking so I won't post a letter!

Jensen ackles and david beckham is the only off-the-market hotties that they are talking about. Off-the-market means they are married and infact unvailable, ask your mom sarah if you don't know what that mean, not trying to be rude or harsh i am just saying it how it is. Jensen ackles and david beckham are married and yes they are happy with there spouses, so woohoo to the happy couples.

If they do this, I'm buying my Season 2 DVDs, and pretending the show ended there. My daughter and I actually had a household meeting over this, and decided we'd let ourselves be fannish until the new season starts, then rip the band-aid off rather than -- once again -- watch a beloved show (and one more successful than it has any right to be given its time slot) morph into something unrecognizable because of Network tinkering in the quest for a different demographic. (And, no, I don't for one minute think this is Kripke and the vision he had mapped out for the show.)

Because, no matter how well they do it (if they do it well), the show that results won't be the same one we love right now, as is. It can't be. The dynamics will have to change, the focus will have to change to accommodate two additional regular characters, and that show won't be our show.

(And that's if they do it well. Given what I've read of the sides, and given the fact that Ausiello describes them as "insanely doable," I'm pretty sure I know in what direction they're trying to go....)

Sad for us, since this show and Battlestar Galactica are the only two television shows we watch. (Mostly, we mess around online.)

hey guys i have to say im very cagy about this idea i mean even the script slides available on the spoiler trend are dodgy especially the one with sam its just so unrealistic that these girls would turn up in the third series after never been mentioned before. we always knew that there was other hunters predominately male as has already been said but when the guys first went to the roadhouse they were surprised that it was a haunt for hunters and also at how many were there. with the likes of bobby you didnt have to waste time develing into him history to see how he became a hunter he just is but with two girls both aged in there 20's that is probaly going to be necessary as we are going to want to know how they found out about deamons and the like and what got them involved in hunting. this all takes time and we will loose time that could have been spent going deeper into the impending war, the fight to save dean and also how and what exactly mary knew about deamons and sam and his visions. they have so much material for season 3 as it is so why try and enforce two knew characters on the show which are most likely just going to confuse things and lead to under developed plots due to lack of screen time

I like the idea about these women but not as regulars..but as recurring...:)

As others have said, it's the 'regulars' part that has fandom exploding. Regular means the showing staring Jared, Jensen, girl1, girl2. However you spin it, that's going to significantly alter the dynamic of the show.

Personally, I'm not against the show introducing more characters and even love interests so long and the focus is kept on Sam and Dean.

This just smacks of network interference and that's never a good thing...

As a postscript to my earlier post-- 'a hunter so tough she makes Dean and Sam look like the Hardy boys'
I'm just curious- who thought this was a good idea?
I am serene in the knowledge that Dean Winchester, my hero, is the toughest person in the room. (yes, yes, also flawed and vulnerable and all that) If anybody makes him look like a Hardy Boy it will only be because it says so in the script as a device to 'prove' how tough the new hunter is.
I HATE THAT.
There's only one exception to Dean being the toughest person in the room--Sam angry beyond thought. Then its a draw.

DO NOT ADD THEM AS REGULARS. For the love of money, the moderate success of this show, the cast and crew and all of those loyal employees, DO NOT ADD THESE CHARACTERS AS REGULARS.

Familiar with the phrase "jump the shark?"

ithinkthecwoughttogotthemessagebynowbadideasimpleasthat

Why is it that the suits feel compelled to inject inappropriate changes to a tried-and-true formula that has earned its show the reputation for being uniquely sublime? What is wrong with the current roster of recurring characters Bobby, Ellen, Jo, Hendricksen, and Gordon? If the reason is to provide relief to Jensen's and Jared's horrendous workload, then refer to the previous sentence. If it's an attempt to increase viewership, WRONG ANSWER!

I, like the majority of devoted fans, did not commit myself to mindless soapy, operatic, sex-induced drivel, or I'd have tuned to (God forbid) "Grey's Anatomy" already.

CW, please, do not rock the proverbial boat and lose the only show on your roster that has the potential of putting you on the adult's list of "must-see TV." Really, it's not too late as filming has yet to begin. Jensen, Jared, Kripke, all the wonderful writing and directing talent and hard-working crew truly deserve more than this.

I don't adore Ellen, either. Why do we need shrine for her?

And another series regular just sucks. I don't care about the love interests but I do care about my focus on relationship between Winchesters.

People don't get mad because of the possibility of love. They hate the posibility of losing our characters.

I can't believe they think it's just jealousy. God.

It’s a royally disastrous idea. The characters we love on Supernatural are Sam and Dean Winchester, not two "hot chick demon hunters". The truth of the matter is that the CW has been ignoring fans for some time in search of some mythological demograph that really never existed. Fandom ranges ages 10 to 50 now a days with any given series. Supernatural appeals to that range because its heroes are 20-somethings, not teenagers, with Dean on the cusp of turning thirty. Even the younger end of that fan base is stating that they are not interested in seeing regular female characters added. Young male viewers want to see male characters to whom they can relate, and even my husband enjoys the show because he finds Sam and Dean believable, and Dean’s “guy” behavior particularly easy to relate to. But the execs remain clueless and continue to insult our intelligence by expecting us to accept two cliche, unoriginal and unbelievable characters such as these new female hunters have been described. If they really wanted to raise the ratings, they would move the series from its fatal timeslot to a better night and spice up the add campaign.

On the issue of love interests (since, yes, it does come up) I’ve got no problem with the boys having a love interest now and then. I personally had no problem with any of the interests they've had along the way so far, even Cassie (some people may call me on crack for saying that), and it's a pity that it wasn't considered bringing back Sarah for Sam now and then. A great deal behind the fandom outcry is because of this issue of are they going to be "regular" characters or "recurring" characters. Most seem to say they're fine with recurring characters, but regular is a whole other animal that means taking screen time away from Sam and Dean. And frankly, if I want to see butt kicking chicks in lead roles, I'll go turn on Aliens or Serenity, because at least those have believable women who came with the mythos from the start. Introducing new regulars to Supernatural will do nothing but upset the established dynamic, take away screen time from the characters we want to see the most, and dumb down the writing.

As we've been saying all along, it ain't broke, quit trying to fix it!

I have major problems with this.

First, if the CW is so worried about attacting new veiwers to Supernatural I got an idea for them. How about they try promoting it instead of changing it.

Only way to get more male viewers is with hot hunter chicks? Give me a break. New flash. Guys already watch this show.

See in Supernatural's world something happens that doesn't happen on any of the other CW dramas. Guys actually act and talk like guys.

If the CW wants to add some cardboard hot chick characters to one of their shows go add them to the Reaper, since it already "knows it's a crappy horror show".

Leave Supernatural alone.

Supernatural is great just the way it is. Sam and Dean are the heart and soul of this show. No new regular cast members/characters are needed, male or female. All to often I have see shows I love add new characters that push that aside the orignal characters or show them up. This only ruins the show or cause it to lose sight of what made it great to began with. Look what happen when Lost added all those characters that took the focus away from the main cast. The ratings took a nose dive.

Supernatural has rich, layered, likeable and believeable characters in Sam and Dean. Putting new people in there will change this and not for the better.

Sometimes all shows need to attract new viewers is time. Look at the X-Files.

The network need to be patience and trust the show. They also need understand what makes the show good and why current fans watch it.

Look at TV history and some of it's successful shows.

Sex and the City, The creator and network knew the driving force of the show wasn't the sex it was the relationship and friendship of the four women. So none of the male actors were ever listed in the opening credits or as part of the regular cast.

Friends at it's basic core was a show about the friendship of those six friends. It never added a new friend to the cast. It started and ended with the same six friends.

Two shows that have stood the test of time and only had two cast members for their entire run, are the Odd Couple. (A show who formula has been copied over and over again) and Quantuim Leap. The relationship and chemistry of main characters and actors were the heart and soul of the show and why people tune in every week.

Supernatural is the same way. So please leave Sam and Dean alone.

I guess I'll ultimately reserve judgment on the addition of these two new characters. The key will be in the casting. I can't stress how important it is that they look beyond the CW stable of pretty but bland girly-women actresses to find some real talent out there. And whoever they cast must have chemistry with the Js or this thing will just never work.

I have to admit that I'm nervous about such major tinkering to a formula that I think worked perfectly well i.e. two brothers, played by the incomparable Jensen and Jared, on the road kicking all kinds of supernatural ass. I'm guessing that the addition of more females was a condition of Supernatural's renewal which tells me that the network really doesn't get the show at all. If they wanted better ratings, they should have moved Supernatural out of its killer time slot instead of trying fix what just ain't broke.

Ok so I've been fairly hesitant about posting my opinion about the 2 new female character spoilers, but I just gotta say this...

PEOPLE HAVE FAITH IN THE KRIPKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand all the fears, I really do. I for one do NOT want another Jo, but I have enough faith in Kripke to believe that he won't give us another Jo. I mean he listened to the fans this season and didn't allow a Jo/Dean relationship to blossom, and he's said that he has no plans to bring her back.

Now I don't know if the spoilers are true or not, but I do know that none of the spoilers say anything about these new characters being love interests. And we all know that most fans do NOT want love interests. And I also know that for the most part fans are mad because these new characters have been deemed new "regulars", which means less Sam and Dean and the possibility of the show straying from the core story of two brothers. This thought has bothered me as well.

BUT again I say we have to have faith in the writers. Who's to say that these new characters won't add depth and interesting plot lines to the show. The show always has and always will be about the Winchesters, and I don't think that will ever change, regardless of character additions. And for me I love this show because even though the supernatural atmosphere is fantasy based, the relationships and human emotion is very real. And we've seen that there are other hunters out there and the boys are bound to come across a few.

Now back to the fear that we are just gonna be given two new "Jo's". I really don't think this is gonna happen. Even if it is the CW Execs pressuring Kripke to add these charcters, I truely believe that he and the other writers won't let us down a second time. I hated Jo! For one, I hated the fact that at first she was merely brought on as a love interest. I wouldn't mind a love interest for either of the boys... eventually. But last season wasn't the time for one. And I feel that a female character must first be brought on and developed with her own story and her own purpose before any kind of relationship can be developed. But like I said nothing as been said about these new characters being love interests. In fact if you read the supposed leaked sides, it really seems like these girls are being written with their own purposes in mind.

Now for my personal thoughts. Do I think we need this new characters? No, I don't. I think the show would be fine without them. I think the core plot would be just as exciting and enthralling without new characters. Am I gonna get my panties in a twist over the new characters? Fuck no! First of all I haven't been introduced to them yet. I haven't seen them on the show yet, I haven't seen how they're being developed within the bigger picture of the season, or how they interact with the boys and the plot. I'm not gonna freak out over sumtin that hasn't happened yet. And second of all and most importantly I must reiterate that we must TRUST THE KRIPKE!!

Which brings me to the whole point of my rant- y'all really gotta think long and hard before you act. I've read about all these campaigns to bombard Kripke and The Cw with your complaints and I gotta say that its a risky move! Seriously do you really wanna piss of the people who gave us a third season?!? I mean yes the show is for the fans, and if it weren't for the fans there would be no show but we can't just throw a hissy fit everytime we don't like something now can we? And OMG don't get me started on these campaigns to actually boycott the third season! I'm not surprised we SN fans have been called fickle. Boycotting? Seriously people? Can we say ASANINE?!?! True fans will be loyal and watch and real fans will at least wait until the friggin season as started and we've actually met these characters before we send the hate mail.

*breathes in and out* Ok so all I'm saying is that people really need to take the time and be grateful that we get another season of a fanfuckingtabulous show that the awesome Kripke and crew have made for us. So take Frankie's advice and RELAX!!

*steps of soapbox, turns off megaphone, and hands out huggles and cookies to all that stayed and listened to my well intentioned rambles*

Thoughts, opinions, rebuttles? You got em? Go ahead and send em my way. I respect differing views and look forward to reading them... But I should warn you, I deliver a mean Chuck Norris roundhouse kick to those who disrespect! LoL!

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Wow, if the CW exec's really wants to bring new viewers to Supernatural they should try to actually promote the show.

I love how studio exec think they know what's better for a show than the people who created it and live and breathe it everyday. I mean it worked so well for Veronica Mars.

I love and watch Supernatural because it's original and different and doesn't have the same old same old sexual tension and love interest storyline that every show today seems to have.

If hot females, sexual tension and love triangles is the only way CW thinks it can pull veiwers away from Grey's Anatomy than maybe they should move One Hill Tree or Smallville to the timeslot. Instead of trying to turn SN that. or better yet, maybe they should just put the Models or the Dolls in this time slot since those are the only shows they seem to know how to promote.

Supernatural isn't broken so quit trying to fix it.

Wow, here we go again, everyone yelling & screaming without really knowing what the plans are. I'm not saying these new characters are a good idea or a bad idea, because I simply don't have enough info to know yet. Whether this is Kripke's or the network execs idea doesn't matter, I trust Kripke to make these characters work & if they don't then he will fix it. He has too much invested into this show, his baby, to let it go down the drain.

I have to admit I am really worried about these new cast members...I was freaking out at first but I have calmed down...I'm trying to be optimistic...I just don't want these two new chicks in EVERY episode...I wouldn't mind if they were just recurring roles but adding them as regulars is going to harm the show. The dynamic of the two guys on the show is what makes it so unique so these new characters is going to just throw that off and make the show like every other show on television.

I Hate this idea,and it screams 'Jo' all over again. Dont get me wrong i have no problems with love interest,but series REGULARS no way will it work. The show is about the brothers and the brotherly interaction,not the brothers and a couple of hot chicks,or a couple of buddies. I wouldn't have a problem seeing more of Bobby or Ellen. The storyline potential with those characters are endless,especially after the season ending. I just have a problem with the CW trying to ruin my favorite show by sexing it up. I watch the show for the brotherly interaction ,and the cool and creepy stories not for who sleeps with who. Don't they realize if thats what i wanted i would watched grey's anaytomy? Have they learned nothing from the 'Jo' debacle? It wasnt the actress it was the character,none of us want anyone riding in the metalicar with our guys with the exception of Bobby or Ellen. Sex doesnt sell when it ruins the story,and the format of the show. The show works because its excellent writing ,and incredibly talented actors.The CW obviously has no idea about how to handle an incredible show ,and cant learn to keep their paws off. I feel that this show in the hands of another network would thrive,but i have fears for it in the hands of the CW.

I'm cautiously optimistic. This is my favorite show so I'm not going to just stop watching but the female characters need to come in as something more then just love interests because yeah that could be a good thing but not right away. I mean I didn't like how they just threw in Jo and others. So if these females are there as more then just love interest and then turn into that its okay. What I don't get is why now because I mean we still have a ton of plot that was left open from season two like Dean has one year left, whats Mary know about the demon, is Sam really all Sam, ect. So why bring in two new characters. I'll survive though as long as they don't take away from the brotherly connection and as long as they don't upstage the boys. And if the boys aren't in all the eppys it would not be cool because the show is about them and yea so as long as that doesn't happen I'll survive. So atleast give the new characters more of a purpose then just love interests but don't let them upstage the boys!!

I am very nervous about these two new characters joining the show. First of all, it might change the whole basis of the show, which is Sam and Dean (and sometimes Papa Winchester) against the evil of the world. The whole show is based on brotherly and family dynamic, and well, some major demon butt kicking. Sam and Dean are supposed to be some of the best in the business (hunting), right? So they're going to bring on these two new female hunters and make Sam and Dean seem like "The Hardy Brothers?" It just doesn't seem right. I think the show has a loyal and intense fan base, and I think that some of us may feel as if we're being let down. I also feel as though the CW thinks they need these new characters to draw in viewers, when all I think is going to happen is that the loyal fan base we have right now is going to be confused and might even stop watching the show. All I'm saying is please reconsider this... for the fans.

There are a couple basic things that bother me about the 1) Its the 'regular' part that gets to me. Recurring I have no problem with -- depending on the character, of course -- which brings me to:
2) The 'kick-ass demon hunter' that is part of the description of the characters being bandied about.. We have our kick-ass hunters already -- Dean and Sam. I don't want any other characters to do the 'saving people, killing things, family business' stuff that is at the heart of and IS the soul of the show. -- Most likely adding these characters is a bid to increase ratings, probably in the male 18-24 demographic. And pragmatically, the ratings do need to go up -- adding new characters is a prevailing network way of trying to boost them. (despite the fact that it doesn't seem to actually work)

I cannot come up with an add-a regular-hunter scenario that does anything but make me gag. And cringe. (Jo redux!! anyone?**shudders** Buffy wannabe? Mary Sue? Tagalong? Love interest? Tough chick teaches those Winchester boys a thing or two?**barfing now**)
Even if she's a good character, so what? -- we don't need her. The positions of kick-ass demon hunters on Supernatural have been filled-- with Dean and Sam Winchester. Start with Logistics -- how are they going to get from place to place together?
In the Impala?
NOT IN MY BACKSEAT!!!!!!

This is not to say that there isn't a place on the show for recurring (NOT REGULAR!!) female characters. Or male recurring characters, for that matter. One real good reason to have additional characters is to give the two leads some relief from their hellish shooting schedules. I'm all for that. I don't want to see the boys burning out.
Sides for the characters also leaked (check the spoiler thread on the CW Supernatural Boards)
Anyway--I wasn't horrified by the 'Bela woman without a conscience' sides. For a couple of reasons -- there is apparently already some history between her and the boys -- which is good. One of my complaints about the Roadhouse (last season's attempt to add characters) was that they went from 'Who the hell are you?' to "Let's call Ellen for advice' in a matter of moments. Very out of character. And second-- Bela's apparently an adversary - that's all good --- no backseat unless she's bound, gagged and/or unconscious. \o/

Now the 'Ruby' character --this is apparently the kick-ass demon hunter, who incidentally is coming on to our Sammy -- uggggh. Hated it! But . . .make her a recurring kick-ass FBI agent and I'm so cool with it its kinda scaring me. Sexual tension? Bring it on. Handcuffs? Captures!! Escapes!! Even stolen kisses!! It practically writes itself.

But the minute somebody climbs in that backseat? Its all over. The backseat of the Impala is reserved for us fans. Nothing should mess with that relationship.
Supernatural is the best show on TV -- whatever happens w/ these characters - you know that JA&JP and Kripke & Co. will work their butts off to keep it that way.

This just makes me sick....why is it that they feel we have to have sex in a show to watch it??I watch this show for the brothers and if these to girls are the way that they are saying they are i for one will not be watching eny longer...i get so sick of all the shows that just have to have sex.

If they were doing this for J2 to have more rest then they could have kept the players that we have now...instead they are going to push them aside so that we can turn this wonderful show into the love boat with guns...sorry not me.

From what I've heard, this is not and has never been a part of Kripke's 5-year plan for Supernatural. This is the result of pressure from the network to sex things up.

From a business point of view, I can understand why Ostroff and others might be concerned that the male viewers won't tune in without hot females to ogle. From a fan point of view, I think it's a mistake. As many others have pointed out, this show is about family - two brothers 'saving people and hunting things'.

I've read the sides for Bela and Ruby. Aside from the fact that the names alone make me cringe, it reads like every bad Mary-Sue-centric fan fiction story I've ever seen cluttering up the internet.

One of the main reasons this show works is that Kripke has tried to give it a basis in reality - to make it a bit believable, so that we, as fans, can look at this and say: "Yeah, who knows? Maybe that really could happen." It's gritty and that's my favourite quality.

These women, from what I've seen, are just so forced. If we're lucky, they'll turn out to be part of this season's Big Bad arc and they'll be a worthwhile addition to the show. Right now, they're little more than over-the-top eye-candy.

I love this show because it's different. It isn't like other ensemble dramas and was never intended to be. It's intelligent and funny and scary all at the same time.

I understand that Jared and Jensen do 90% of the work. They carry the show but if they're insisting on having help, why not use the kick-ass, fan-adored characters that are already established? Like Bobby and Ellen? Hell, even Jo works when she's used correctly, like in BUABS.

'No Exit' is a classic example of what not to do. They tried to shove Jo and Dean down the collective fan throat and it didn't go down well. What does the CW expect to achieve by repeating past mistakes?

Please. Tone it down. One hot hunter female? Yeah, I could have bought that. But two? That's so blatantly contrived and so overdone by hundreds of thirteen-year-old fangirls living out their fantasies through fan-fiction.

Mr Kripke, I know you'll probably never read this but if you have any choice whatsoever about this decision, PLEASE FIX THIS! Don't let the CW do to your wonderful show what they did to Veronica Mars.

I dont see how they can incorporate any new regular characters, (trust me ive been trying to imagine it for myself and nothings been working, lol)but the recurring characters sounds good plus most people like it better than the regular idea. if they are just trying to add more male viewers they might lose all their female viewers and trusted watchers. i think its a good idea, though, to add some recurring characters to take off some of the pressure on jensen and jared.

Usually I'm pretty calm about most things and try to see the good in them, but seriously, no one should tell me to calm down. The key to this show, what makes it WORK, is the relationship between Sam and Dean. I don't mind recurring characters that are there to support that--mostly plot necessitated with a good dose of personality to make it go down smooth. However, series regular? And the way they're described (not to mention the sides)? It's too much attention away from the boys. Worse, the sides have them separated. Like these two don't have enough going on to fill an entire season. There's enough debate amongst fans about how much attention each brother gets, and now they have to compete with two new characters?

Disaster, waiting to happen. And it depresses me to no end. I was finally looking forward to Sam possibly getting a little more depth and humanity, but now it apparently looks like he won't.

O and to add on to my recent blog intry I think that HOT singles should have HOT girlfriends RIGHT and they should get drunk one night on the show and STRIP ON A POLE and take their shirts off.

OOOOOOOOOOOOO SEXY SEXY yeah awesome more HOT villians and HOTTER hunters YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! my dream has come true well besides the dream where Dean(Jensen Ackles) and Sam(Jared Padalecki)do a srtip tease for me along side Lucas(Chad Michael Murray)and Chase(Stephen Colletti)and Johnny and Cliffe and Tom Welling(Clark Kent aka SUPERMAN)and also Chris Lowell(PIZ) oooooo YEAH there's more Gary(Wesley Johnathan)well I cant remember ALL 52 of the HOT superstars.

Whilst this decision makes sense with the guys insane schedule the thought of it makes me cringe. I enjoy supernatural due to its focus on the brothers relationship and on the hunting. Introducing two new female characters really hints at the formation of relationships and that takes away from what the show is about. So many shows on introducing focus on sexual tension or relationships really start to go down hill in my opinion. I will watch it - supernatural is my favourite show and I won't not watch it but if it comes to a ridiculous level between the characters I will be gone and live in a happy world where season 2 is the last season 2. Denile I can do very well.

I agree with the new hunter, but that the boy will have a relatioship with them not!!.
I will like the idea that the Winchis find a familiar lie a cousin, a uncle o something like that.

I am sickened by the news, as I think it will be the demise of my most beloved show. I am all for giving J&J a break, because god knows they need it and deserve it. But...I think recurring characters is the way to go and not 2 regualr bad ass chickies. I love Bobby and Ellen. I think it's terrible that Ellen is going to be sort of phased out so that they can appeal to a younger audience. Give me a break. Just because some of us are over 30 doesn't mean we aren't important! We support the show too.
This show is about the brothers, their love for each other, their bond, their entangled lives and the destined life they lead as hunters. There is no room for bad ass chicks that are going to show them up or mess around with them. THat is just plain wrong. Bring in an occasional hunter like Gordon. It could be female, that's fine, but regulars? Pleasseee don't do that!!!!
I think it was bad of them to lose Ash because he could have really had a great role in season 3. That was a big mistake.
I agree with another poster about female demons. Bring them on. Most people didn't take to Jo (myself included) so why would they try this again!
I hope you are listening Kripke!!!

I really don't like the idea of "regular" characters,it's about 2 brothers.not 2 brothers and 2 females,not 2 brothers and 1 female but "2" brothers. You can bring in "guest" female hunters but not regular.

So, soooooooooo..........disappointed in the talk about 2 new season regurlars. It will destory the show, in my opinion.. But I really think thats what the CW network wants!

I'm all for lightening the boys' load, but there are better ways to go about it. Why not explore the characters who have already been established? Let's learn more about Bobby, or Mary's background. Why not have an appearance by the as-yet-unseen Joshua or Jefferson? Tell more stories via flashbacks of the boys as children? Adding two brand new "series regulars" only serves to take time away from what we've all come to know and love, and that's the brothers and their bond. "Love interests" or not, I can't imagine the addition of two new regulars attracting more viewers. If anything, people will be tempted to stop watching. I know I don't want that for my show.

I was extremely disappointed in hearing that they intended to add two female hunters to Supernatural. It is completely unnecessary. The show was about the Winchesters, and I'm still pissed off that they killed off John as well. I will not be watching Season 3 and I think they can kiss any chances of getting Seasons 4 and 5 goodbye.

Please please please CW drop this idea!
Please no new regulars.
PLEASE I'm begging you!

I wondered about that too, jas, and I hope it's just that. It would be more prudent to introduce these two new female characters as guest stars then make them regulars if fan reaction is favorable.

I wasn't as into the first season of SPN as most. A good friend of mine got me back into the show. I watched the whole first season and stuck with the second and now I'm totally hooked. I love the shows dynamic. Family above all. Sam and Dean are the untimate characters. Their story is something that we haven't seen on tv in a good long while. Supernatural is a quality show that television has needed for the past what feels like 5 years.

Now I'm hearing that they're trying to "up the ratings potential" by adding two "hotties" who just happen be better at what Sam and Dean do than Sam and Dean?

What the hell? That's BS and I would be saying that about anyone who just came on the scene and outshown the regluar characters. I'll say this, as many, I did not like Jo. And if the slides that I've read pretaining to these new girls are legit, then SPN is about to take a long fall of a steep cliff.

After the finale, I was all gung ho about the show coming back for a third seand with Sam and Dean dealing with all this stuff, the Feds on their tails, Dean's year as well as the Demons that escaped hell. Now this.

No Ellen! Come on. Who's gonna be there for the boys should something come up? Who's going to take care of them, becuase regardless of how long they've been in the game, they may have seen alot, but they couldn't have seen it all.

Ellen may not have been a core character, but she was, is, an amazing character and the possibility of not having her around the next season to make room for a this "series regulars" is complete and total BS.

I watch this show for one reason and one reason only. Sam and Dean. Them as brothers and the lives that they grew up in. If this netowrk thinks that people are going to stick around and wait out the histories of these new characters while they take away from Sam and Dean, then they re in for more than and rude awakening.

Let Kripke and his people continue to do what they have been doing. It's because of them that we have this quality tv show in a world of gameshows that have no business on primetime. People are actually excited to sit down with their families and watch this show becuase of it's quality. Trying to make SPN something that it's not is only going to ruin it for the rest of us.

I am completely against this whole thing. If you read the sides too, it's blatantly obvious these girls are potential love interests. The girl Ruby is trying to seduce Sam. I can just see them having Sam see something good in Ruby or think he can change her in some way and hooking up with her. Either that or he will be go down a morally depraved pathway because of her. I will be very disheartened if Sam actually takes her up on her offer and I will lose all respect for him. Bela doesn't sound much better in the sides either and I would hate to see Dean get mixed up with her as well.

I watch the show for the brothers and the only relationship I want to see is their brotherly bond. This show does not need romance to be good. The boys just don't have time for it either what with 200 demons on the loose and both Sam and Dean's souls on the line.

The fact that these characters will be regulars makes me sick. The only regulars I want to see are Sam and Dean. If they were recurring characters, it would not be as bad. I don't like that we will have to learn about these girls' background and time will be spent fleshing them out when that time could be given to learning more about Sam and Dean. We still don't know everything there is to know about them. Even if these girls are villains, I don't wish to see them on a consistent basis.

I heard the network wants these changes to be made and it was not Kripke's idea. Why do networks have to mess with a show like this? They convince writers to make all these changes saying it will make ratings go up. Well I say quality over quantity. I don't care if Supernatural is as big as other shows, as long as I get the great storytelling every week. I am very sad to think that next season could be the last season I watch the show if these changes are as bad as they sound.

I've always been of the wait-and-see attitude when it comes to any new characters. But these two are described as SERIES REGULARS!! The only series regulars I want to see are Jensen and Jared. Period. To annoint these two newbies as regulars when they haven't proven their likeability factor (especially in view of the Jo debacle) is a royal disaster. "Series regulars" implies a majority of episode and actors with contracts who will be hard to dismiss if the chemistry and fan reaction goes south. This is NOT Kripke's vision. This is the CW's misguided attempt to tap into the hormonal 18-25 male demographic, which I could live with if they were just occassional recurring characters... but the words "series regulars" nauseates me.

"We're all for chicks who can kick ass and take names"? Speak for yourself. I'm sick to death of watching females with gender problems imitating males. Like most viewers, I watch "Supernatural" to see a road show about two MEN hunting demons and monsters. I suspect that "Supernatural" attracts one of the strongest fanbases in television history for the simple reason that viewers want to see a MALE dominated, serious horror show. Like me, they're tired of watching series about women who act like men and men who act like sissies. Do the CW execs think they can improve ratings by shoving female versions of Sam and Dean down viewers' throats? They're wrong. "Supernatural" isn't "The X-Files," "Buffy," or "Charmed." It's a one-of-a-kind series. Change the basic formula by introducing regular female characters, and you'll destroy the series.
Any fool should learn from past mistakes, but apparently the Jo debacle has taught the CW nothing. So here's a warning for execs. Keep messing with "Supernatural" and not only will you alienate your most powerful fanbase, you'll endanger your entire network.

This is the worst thing they could do.

I'm a guy and I think the women guest stars and the demon chicks are plenty enough to look at. I don't want to see two girls running around with them. You just know at least one of them is going to have a relationship with one of the guys at some point. I like this show because it DOESN'T have that nonsense.

This is a cool show. I don't understand why they want to mess it up.

Stick with the cool weapons and the cool ghost stories. The only "female" regular we need on this show is Dean's car and she kicks ass.

Another decent show is about to bite the dust.

I JUST HATE THE IDEA OF THE 2 NEW REGULARS. I AGREE WITH THAT SN DOES NOT NEED TO BECOME SOAP OPERA THE SHOW IS GREAT AS IT IS. DO NOT TRY TO FIX SOMETHING HAS NOTINGH WRONG.GIVE THE BOYS SOME CREDIT FOR THEIR HARD WORK, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY REASON I WATCH THE SHOW AND DRAGGIN ALL MY FRIENDS TO WATCH TOO, FOR THE DYNAMICS BETWIN THE BROTHERS WHICH MAKES THE SHOW SO UNIQUE.PLEASE DON'T RUIN IT.

Jensen's certainly hot no question, but he's not really single. He's been dating Danneel Harris from One Tree Hill for a while now.

Screw pinch me I'm dreaming I think you have to beat me with a bat wake me from this nightmare.

OK maybe that was a little harsh but first thing i thought immediately after reading that was "oh look S3 is gonna be written by an incredibly unoriginal, unimaginative, fanfic writer" because honestly can anyone say marysue? if this is supposed to bring in viewers it seems to be having the opposite affect as everyone who ive told seems to be repulsed at the very prospect.

I truly hope this is a mere ploy to catch attention and gage a response becuse this is bloody awful. I have put my faith in Kripke an his team and i didnt not fight for my show so a bunch of Execs could massacre it. This season should have Sam trying to spend as much time as possible with his brother in light of recent events, not ending up in unneeded sexual tension with a woman (who by ive read) i dislike very much and find rather sleazy.

The fans love SPN for the bond this brothers share and the chemistry they have on screen, adding new characters is just going to take away from that. People watch this show for the originality, and speaks of terrible cliches. We watch it because there are really no one night stands with co-workers and the akward conversational drama the next morning that seems to happen once if not twice and episode in the shows we see today. Please make this all a sick joke.

First of all, making Sam and Dean look like the Hardy boys is bad. The show is about the boys. Not two girls who are tougher than them. Second, I am so sick of anorexic girls whose only purpose is to show their stomach's and act tougher than they really are. And it's not just because it's too females. Even if you added two more regular's who were male, it still wouldn't be the same. Bobby is awesome but it would be a whole different thing if we was with the boys all the time. The show is about the boys. I know how hard they work and how tough it is for them, but they make the show. Female regulars are gonna be annoying.

I, for one, am not thrilled with adding two new characters as series regulars. In fact, I downright HATE the idea. Why can't they be reoccuring roles, like Bobby and Ellen. And what's up with not having Samathan Ferris reprise her role as Ellen. I like the show because of the focus on the relationship between the brothers, emphasis on family, and what each other will do to save the other, etc.... Adding new regulars to the mix is totally going to take away from that. With the upcoming demon war I kind of expect some other hunters to appear in the storyline, but NOT as regulars.

It is ain't broke, don't fix it!!!

One of the things I like about the show is the way recurring characters turn up in episodes where the addition of said characters is appropriate to a given episode. I feel that the show should center on Dean and Sam only because the show is about their family. As long as the addition of two new regular characters doesn't detract from Sam and Dean's air time and take the focus off of their family saga, I will be okay with it. But, really, the unique aspect of Supernatural is anchored in the sibling relationship and that should not change.

Is it REALLY necessary to add TWO female hunters to Supernatural?? Can you asy: WAY TOO OBVIOUS??

We don't want love interests! We want female hunters we can like and THEN they can become love interests... what's the point of adding TWO new characters if their only purpose is to look hot and create a lot of Sexual Tension?? Nah, I just don't get it...

I'm quite pissed off at the moment... I've been waiting a year for the show to add a cool female hunter, and now I'm gonna have TWO female hunters whose only purpose os to be Love interests!! Is that all women are for Miss Ostroff?? She thinks there can't be a Female hunter who's not, let's say, HOT??!

Please!

So frustrated right now... I will NEVER understand why exec ALWAYS want to tell the creative minds what to do... Supernatural is NOT the kind of show that will get more audience if you add a little sexual tension!

Uhm... you want the show to get more rating?? How about... PROMOTING THE SHOW??! Or what about buying ONE DAMN Emmy Magazine page to PROMOTE YOUR OWN ACTORS AND SHOWS??!! Winning an Emmy might help, you know?? And Jensen Ackles was AMAZING on the Season Finale... *shakes head* I'll never understand it...

The hell they're not love interests! Do they really think we're that stupid?
One marysue is already trying to get in Sam's pants by episode 2 or 3. VOMIT!
And if the CW and Kripke know this will upset fans, then why do it?

Anyone if a brain would understand what kind of backlash this will create. Hell, it's already happening.
The show WAS about the relationship between two brothers and IS now a relationship drama.
We can all say goodbye to the magic that was Supernatural and the wonderful Sam and Dean relationship.
It will be now another crappy soap.

This spoiler was, to say the least, phenomonally disappointing. When I want jiggle, I'll look at some jello, thanks.

Adding these women in any other way than antagonistic, would be dumbing down one of, no wait, you're only show with any sort of real brain to it. Which is why I'm fairly convinced this is not a move Kripke was planning to make.

You've got a thoughtful and intelligent show. One that frightens and makes you think. Goes beyond the "prettiness" of it's stars and brings out the nitty-gritty of society throught the demons they face.

Adding a "jiggle" factor, is an insult to the integrity of the show's core, the fan's intelligence and even to the fans you're trying to bring in with some "hot eye candy."

I was under the impression that you as a network were supposed ot bring us the programming we wanted. You added 7 new reality series to your lineup next year. Trust me, you've already brought down the IQ points there. Don't further degrade the network by reducing your best and smartest show to hot chicks with guns. Buffy has been done, and done very well. Don't even attempt it here.

Eric Kripke, the creator of this show, once told us, during the Jo fiasco (something the network clearly has learned nothing from) to keep writing. That if something isn't working, he'd fix it. He kept his promise with Jo. What exactly is it you as a network can promise us? A blind eye? A deaf ear? Because this sure doesn't have the touch of Kripke on it. It reeks of a network looking at the bottom line... and apparent the DD line too.

Please, CW execs, for your own integrity, please stop this nonsense.

Of course Kripke hasn't mentioned them as love interests. After the furore this time last year over Jo being a LI for Dean Kripke wasn't going to make that mistake again. But...no doubt about it...love interests and all the wearingly boring drama that goes with these scenarios will be polluting this show very soon.

And I just needed to add..all the men I know who watch this show all watch it for the MOTW busting action, the humour, the music, the Impala and like us women, the brotherly relationship. The last thing they want to see is soap opera drama revolving around love interests and sexual tension. Believe me, they are happy enough with the chick of the week to gawk over.

"The first one is described as a beautiful, funny and confident mercenary who lacks a conscience, and the other is an enigmatic demon hunter who is sexy, brutal and ruthless. So ruthless that I hear she's going to make Sam and Dean look like the Hardy Boys.”

Can it get any stupider. The descriptions make me shudder, they sound like bad female action characters. I mean BAD! Whoever said read the sides, they prove my point

Why don't we just get a bunch of covered wagons so all the regulars can start a huntin' train out west? Dude, the inherent difficulty in a roadtrip show is that you just can't bring in a bunch of new regulars... the boys have to sit still too long so everyone can get screen time and you can have all this superfluous interaction... or everyone has to tag along, and yay! caravan! That's really inconspicuous with the FBI chasin' ya.

I unbashedly adore Ellen. And the very idea that she's being shouldered out of the picture in favor of 20-something fresh meat insults me to the extreme. I now imagine that the CW execs must be sitting around saying "If you're over 25, then you're not good enough to watch us. Pfft!"

But aside from the fact that I just really loved Ellen and Samantha (the actress), at the very least, she was a character that was already an important part of the boys' lives. And now we're just going to completely ignore an important part of their lives, their support group, the new family they've cobbled together out of hunter bits (basically the story we've spent two seasons investing in) so that we'll have new characters who look hot in leather and the gratuitious undie scene. (And, no, I have no hopes that these gals will be suitably layered up in hunter plaid and flannelette.)

And, okay, let's assume I eventually got past all that and could actually welcome the addition of two new regulars... The sides made me throw up a little. I've rejected character profiles for RPGs that were more original than "Rubella." 1) Wow, I don't think the sides said hot sex enough... I'm so comforted that it's their empowered sexuality and hot hottie hotness that are pushed to the front of their list of important attributes. 2) Female hunters? Despite not buying the love interest angle for Dean, I did buy Jo as a character. She was born to the life, and despite having been raised around it, she was still classified as an "amateur", which is tons more acceptable than inexplicably gorgeous, sexy, hair-never-mussed, impossibly young Artemises, one of whom is "better" than our anomolously marine-trained brotherly duo--who are the exception in the hunting world and not the rule. Let's make the boys less special... afterall, the show's not about them.

And this is a great time in the storyline to stop everything and start romances. I'm sure that hooking up is totally going to play second fiddle in Sam's "more loyal than Rumsfeld" bent to the 24/7 research it's going to take to get Dean's soul out of layaway. And the fact that the gal who looks suspiciously like his new love interest screams She-Dean? Mmmmm... 'cesty. I have racked my befuddled little brain trying to think of a love interest that would be more inappropriate for Sammy and all I've come up with is: Bob Barker.... and I still like him better.

And let's be honest, if you're trying to "sex up the show" to get the attention of the demographic the network apparently values most, then (here's a secret) that demographic doesn't need Regulars... just spin out a promo promising a new, random, exciting shag-n-bag in every episode! Honestly, those guys get bored seeing the same chick over and over again. Guest stars... briefly recurring... that's the way to go, you know, if you're going for a demographic that will follow T&A like a zombified co-ed follows gray matter.

If this is some twisted plan of the Mad Genius, then I'll close my eyes and cross my fingers for a good S3 with believable storylines and endearing characters, as is his way (but *kick in the shin* for making me worry so...). If this was an unavoidable move to relieve pressure from the J's so they could produce even better work (even though what they do is gold) in fewer scenes and actually sleep once in a while, then I trust the writers will make this work. However, if this is straight interference to grab that illusive Hooters-lovin' demographic, then I expect Kripke to be dutifully curled up in bed right now lamenting the ruins of his carefully mastered third season, in between, of course, heroic campaigns to save something from this potential disaster.

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I HATE the idea of these new characters. The reason I love this show is Sam and Dean and their fantastic brotherly relationship. We need to know so much more about Sam and Dean and adding new characters will take away screen time from them. I could tolerate them if they are evil and out to harm our guys and only if they are in 3-4 episodes. But absolutely no love interests, no UST or RST and no midseason redemption which turns them into good guys.

I was so happy we got season 3 but now I'm dreading it. This could turn out to be so awful.

This has got to be a freakin joke. This sounds like the worst addition possible, cliche to the max. I say work with the characters you got, that means guest characters also!. Ok, we have a demon hunter and mercenary women added as regulars, and you have to input that into the already building open ended storyline. Can someone say crash and burn possibility. Dont read the sides, just dont read them. The writing is cringe worthy of these two women and guess what we get a new myth. Sam shoots people without remorse, "rolleyes", way to screw up the character. Supernatural is slowly drifting away from its roots, which can only lead to trouble. There is a way to evolve a story keeping the uniqueness of the main characters and the main theme of the show. If season 3 brings a totally different show, dealing tempting the winchester, im out. Fans dont need drastic changes they need sensible ones.
Hey, I am all for the love stories or addition of female characters when there done right. You cant just slap cliche "bad/mysterious" regular and hope for a good show. Why let go of Ellen, she was a good character and a well-written individual. Bring the lawyer back from folsom prinson blues or another female guest character, someone with back history. This is just sad :( I can just picture the beginning of the season, you can pretty much guess where this was headed. I was right about Jo, to quote Dean "akward!"

I was looking forward to Season 3 of Supernatural. Seasons 1 and 2 have been riveting and it has grown into a class show that unfortunately is not recognised by the CW as such. I respect the hard work of Jensen, Jared, the writers and the crew. But I have to say I really hate the thought of two new regulars. Their characters aren't needed or wanted. I don't want to see Supernatural change from the class act and introducing these two "hunters" will do that. I will continue to support SN but just fast forward the bits the girl hunters are in!!
I hope the CW reconsiders its position.

What were the options ?
"cheering at the news, cautiously hopeful, slightly disappointed, full of despair, or reserving judgment"
Definitely not cheering...
Definitely not hopeful (cautiously or not)...
Way past slightly disappointed...
FULL OF DESPAIR is pretty close to it.
Reserving Judgment to try to be reasonable about the whole news.

Seriously, I can't believe they are doing this. I don't want to believe that this can be a move from Kripke or the other writers... The show is about the Winchesters ; their story, their history, the brothers' relationship, the upcoming problems they have to solve together.

I know Jensen and Jared have to much work right now and won't be able to keep at that pace for very long. I agree they need some support. Well I guess there is some support right there next to them if you just turn around : Bobby, Ellen, Jo... Why bring 2 new huntresses (?)... we haven't seen Jo for some time now and it looks like Alona Tal has a new show coming up and apparently Ellen is "too old" for the show. *sic* Nice move there guys... So what's the next move ? If Ellen is too old, then waht is there to say about Bobby !!!
So would that mean that the 2 new female "regulars" and supposed to be casted "hot and sexy" are gonna be brought in as eyecandy for males... wow !! Are they going to be the female equivalent of Sam and Dean ?? Do they think that male viewers are gonne tune in because of some pale-Buffy-imitation ?? OK maybe... but are they willing to take the risk of gaining an unknow number of new viewers while loosing the true Supernatural fans that have been loyal for the past 2 years. We (at least I) don't want to see any new serie's regular added that would throw the whole show's dynamic completely off balance... Are they trying to bring a male audience or are they trying to attract a shipper audience ?? Are they trying to make some 4some gang : 2 guys and 2 gals... how many possibilities ? Supernatural is not a teen show, not a shipper show ; there is OTH for that (not lessening the show in any manner). They want a mix of teen ship and action, there is Smallville (here again I have no problem with SV). So please please... don't turn Supernatural into something it is not meant to be. :)

I'm not saying that I am totally objecting the arrival of new cast members. No I guess I understand the need to bring some fresh blood to the show, but that has to be done very cautiously. Recurent/guest characters, I go for it. Regulars, No.

If this whole new character stuff is Kripke's idea then I trust him to make the thing run smoothly. I have faith in him.
In TETIK I trust.

From what I've heard the main reason to bring in new regulars is to get a handle on Jared and Jensen's crazy schedule....

From everything I have heard, the reason for the change is to 'sex the show up'.

A few occasionally recurring characters like Bobby and Ellen could have easily been used to give the boys a bit of a break if that was why. Going by how Season 2 ended, with Jensen, Jared, Jim and Samantha, and a few of Kripke's comments in interviews from February and March I believe this was Kripke's plan.

The two hot kick ass chippies(whom I would not like any better if they were men) is network dictated. Of that, I have absolutely no doubt.

Well survey says... Bad idea! Okay I'm sort of torn. On the one hand, you have two of the hardest working guys in television, both extremely talented. One who definitely does'nt get the nods he deserves, but doesnt go out of his way to seek. They're not getting the recgonition they richly deserve already. Now on the one side, these poor guys really need a break. Shouldering 90% of this show is too much to expect long term from these humble gentelman. So more characters dividing screen time, sounds like a much needed break for these guys. On the other the network, if it was their decision, is saying all their hard work is'nt good enough, and they can't pull off a quality show w/out females jumping in. I disagree.
If this was strictly Kripkes' idea and part of his 5 year plan for this show, then I'm all for it. I'll even look forward to it. But if he has to sacrifice his plans for this season to compensate for these women, then I mourn the unavoidable loss of my show. Bobby,Ellen,Ash and even Jo recurring added to the quality and diversity of the show. Recurring is good. Regulars is not. Especially regulars that are insinuated as showing them up. "Makes them look like the Hardys boys." I like romantic entanglements. But lets face it, at this point in their lives, women for more than a wham bam would be totally unrealistic! A regular, how about another kick butt demon, even female, like a meg and her daddy? Keep the evil villian in play, that works for this show. These eps get watched and watched again. Except "No Exit" Majority didnt watch or never wants to see it again. Why? Becuase the interaction between Sam and Dean was massively lacking. I personally loved Jo in that ep and found new respect and more annoyances in that ep all at the same time. But thats just one out of 22 and people hated it. No real brotherly angst,bond,interaction there. Add 2 female regulars and this becomes too easily the norm.
I cut my cable becuase reality tv,soap operas,teen dramas, and comedies washed out good drama. I didnt want,need,or miss my cable for four years. Then I heard about this amazing show w/Jensen Ackles and Jeffrey Dean Morgan and I had to get the DVDs to check it out. 2 weeks later I had cable. I wont leave this show no matter what I just pray its not sabatoged into be cancelled by the end of the season. I let my 5 kids watch this becuase of the family aspects of it. I certainly wont them near Greys or CSI.

From what I've heard the main reason to bring in new regulars is to get a handle on Jared and Jensen's crazy schedule. I'm all for that, it makes sense, but...

It means that either we'll have these new female ass kicking regulars having their own episodes without Sam and Dean, which I don't really think will go down very well with the fans.

Option number two is that the brothers are for some reason separated and they get one ass kicking female each.

Both options sucks royally but personally I'd rather take option number one. Option number two screams of sexual tension and horribleness without end.

There is always option number three, all of them in the Impala... or rather Sam and Dean in the Impala and the girls in the other classic shiny cool car they're gonna introduce that is much more expensive and special and pimped out than the Impala. Hunting together or you know just rubbing up against each other while panting.

Option number three is probably what we'll see for a few episodes before they split up.

I don't mind female recurring characters, not even ass kicking hunters. The better than Sam and Dean parts only really rubs me wrong because it screams Mary Sue and horrible all over the place.

I watch this show for Sam and Dean, their wonky relationship, inability to talk about anything important and the angst that follows them around like a lovesick puppy.

I have a lot of faith in Kripke, but I don't think this was his call. Not once in interviews or elsewhere has he hinted that he meant for this show to have a huge cast. I mean come on they seem to introduce their characters just to kill them off.

I really hope I don't end up hating the ONLY show I watch. I would have to find another one and that seems like work.

I just thought of something. Let me know if it makes sense.

I wonder if Kripke leaked this info (this early) on purpose to see what the fan reaction would be. Why? In the case of major negative feedback, as is the case, leaves time for script alterations.

hmmm

It's like a really bad dream.
This show was doing everything right IMO, I'