One Tree Hill: A Proposal And A Sacrifice
We got to see Lindsey and Lucas's side of the proposal story, but it didn't turn us into fans of their engagement. Talk about a messed-up proposal! They were about to break up, and suddenly Lucas pops the question? And as for that ring... for sure it’s used. Does anyone else smell all kinds of trouble? Also, does that girl have any other friends outside of the Tree Hill crew? She’s asked Haley to be the matron of honor. Maybe Peyton can be the flower girl!
Speaking of not being true to oneself…
So Nanny Carrie pretends that she’s Jamie’s mom sometimes… that’s not really so creepy. Okay, it’s extraordinarily creepy. And then, when the girl got an entire evening at home with Haley away, she pretended to wipe paint off of Nathan’s face so she could take the opportunity to kiss him when his eyes were closed. Why didn’t Nathan stop her? That boy needs to man up and fight to keep his family from getting torn apart by this nutty nanny. But so far… we’re not seeing it. Sure he told her to stop flirting and skinny dipping after she apologized for being inappropriate at TRIC, but what will he say after she kissed him?
What we loved
How great was it that Alice got canned for getting busy? Apparently she was sleeping with an employee. Wink. Wink. Turns out that the programming director was not only having the sex with Marvin McFadden, she was boffing the entire staff. So the head honcho scrambled and since he liked Mouth’s audition tape, he asked him to cover the opening Ravens game as his first assignment. How perfect was that? Mouth seemed a little too lucky in this situation, and we can't help but wonder if Alice will pop up again at some point. Could he really have escaped such a sticky situation with no one knowing what they were up to? Regardless, we're happy that plotline is over.
We loved how cool Millicent was to stand up to Mouth and tell him she didn’t want to date him because he is the kind of guy who sleeps with his boss to get ahead. Then when he recorded the Moscow Ballet for her later to show her on their first real date -- what a stud he turned out to be. He won Millicent’s heart, and he won our heart back too! Welcome back, Mouth!
What we didn’t love
We did not love Lucas’s wedding proposal in the least. He will seriously go down in history as the worst proposer ever. He’s zero-for-two in that department. And he’s usually so eloquent! We really didn’t love the fact that Haley didn’t tell Lucas she saw him kissing Peyton on the very night he proposed to another woman.
No matter how much money Brooke has made, if she was interested in Owen she shouldn’t have insulted the boy’s car…or his profession. But she did both. So in order to make it up to him she attempted the “naked in the back of a boy’s car” trick again. But this time with a twist. This time she actually had clothes on and after she had him hooked, she told him that he had to earn the right to sleep with her. Bravo!
Can’t decide…did we love it or hate it?
Peyton got a sign from her mom at her graveside and decided to make the sacrifice that Keith made for Karen and just suck it up. After all, the most perfect act of love is sacrifice -- that’s what Keith did for Karen. He buried his feelings for her to be a good friend. So that’s what Peyton has decided to do for Lucas. On one hand, we love that she can find the strength to do this, on the other hand we hate that she isn’t going to fight for him.
Is Peyton making the right decision? What do you think she should do?
Comments
Peyton was great.
What would you do if you were her?
She must tell the truth to Lucas otherwise she would regret it for all her life.
Tears were in my eyes while hearing her saying she loves Lucas but will sacrifice this love if that's what Lucas wants.
Lucas is to blame. Why didn't he ask Peyton at L.A. why she said "someday"? someday does not mean no. He just took the first girl he saw, Lindsey...I don't like her at all, she seems to be just acting, good at anytime, pff...don't like Lucas and Lindsey.
Posted by: mimi | July 3, 2008 3:25 AM
Stop saying "bring brucas back"... you don't have a choice in how the show is going....Brooke and Lucas have been done for like 2-4 years.. so really..let it go..
Personnally i really love Lucas and Peyton.. and i like season 5 so far..<3
You LP fans are doing the exact same thing! You´re whining over lindsey all the time so give US a break. We´ve been going through alot more than you guys have. And since we 'don´t have a choice in how the show is going' why is "bring brucas back" bothering you?
Posted by: jessica | March 20, 2008 3:41 PM
omfg
peyton and lucas are
destined to be together
its a matter of life and
death.
Posted by: joann | March 15, 2008 12:19 PM
The show is going to many directions at once. I CANNOT believe this new comer Lindsey is going to step in and take what SHOULD be Peytons. Why does Peyton always get the short end. Now you want to bring back Dan??? Will Karen come back as well? Not quite sure I like this new episode. I think the writers strike clouded the scripts. Get Peyton back with Lucas.... We all know the ring is hers!!!! Thank god for Brook.
Posted by: Sherry | February 26, 2008 9:50 PM
Stop saying "bring brucas back"... you don't have a choice in how the show is going....Brooke and Lucas have been done for like 2-4 years.. so really..let it go..
Personnally i really love Lucas and Peyton.. and i like season 5 so far..<3
Posted by: OTHfan | February 24, 2008 2:47 PM
Brucas were just a highschool crush
LEYTON=TRUE LOVE ALWAYS!!!!!
Posted by: jess | February 24, 2008 5:51 AM
i know leyton were ment to be together since the begining, but brucas proved to be more than just a good friendship. they need to get back
Posted by: me205 | February 23, 2008 10:53 PM
Haley is a horrible friend to Peyton esp. after her tirade about getting in the way of Luc/Lind affair. Look whose talking, she left Nathan for so many months to pursue her singing dream and Nathan almost killed himself. And Peyton has been nothing but a good friend to her even letting her be involve with Mia's recording. My heart goes out to Peyton bec. w/o Brooke by her side she is totally left out of their HS group. They're all hanging out together and Peyton is not invited.
Posted by: roan | February 23, 2008 7:55 PM
OMFG OMFG I WANNA KICK LUCAS` ___!!!!!!!!!!!! i was like "SAY SOMETHING YOU _______" when peyton kissed his hand and turned to leave! I LOVE peyton more than EVER, she IS the show. Leyton is definitely destined to be together, no kidding, and i will always have a biiiig spot in my heart for them which sucks lol but I feel like if Lucas can cause Peyton so much pain after knowing how much shes already been through, he is so childish and Peyton deserves someone WAYYYY better a.k.a. Jake :) lol. But it really sucks because I wish after all these years Lucas would stop hiding from his love for Peyton, he has not grown at all, if not become more childish, in the past 5 years.
Posted by: Rachel | February 23, 2008 1:21 PM
im a huge BRUCAS fan but i do like Owen and Brooke together, if lucas cant wake up and relize he loves brooke then brooke deserves treated right
Posted by: Nicole | February 23, 2008 11:51 AM
I love Brucas,yet Lindsay and Lucas aren't a perfect match.And I love how Brooke has gotten over Lucas and tries to win Owen.But I don't see the fact that Peyton wont admit that she stills loves Lucas.If I were her,which unfortunatly am not,I would fight for him.But somehow,I think it's brave that Peyton isn't making a big deal out of it,yet you can tell she's heartbroken,heck,who wouldn't be?She lost the person she loved,AGAIN!
And as for Nanny Carrie,holy cow,she's creeping me out.She has to back away from Nathan asap. I mean,what will happen between the fabulous Naley? I can't stand seeing them fight,not over a stupid nannie that is.Seriously,creepy Carrie,get away asap.
But still,Lucas shouldn't have propposed to Lindsay,but to Peyton.Where is the old Lucas?The Lucas who we all loved from season 1 to season 4? The one who wasn't afraid to tell the people he actually loved that he loved them? The one who walked up to Peyton telling her it's her?The one who told Brooke that she was everything to him?
Posted by: Ashlee | February 23, 2008 8:15 AM
Okay, will you people just shut up about the whole "BRUCAS ARE OVER, GET OVER THEM" crap? Because that is pure bullshit. Instead of telling people to get over THEIR favorite couple? Why don't you guys get over Leyton? I'LL get over brucas when I want to, which is NEVER. (:
So yeah, just shut it.
And how was Brooke NOT selfless? You know, in my eyes, being selfless means actually letting something go WITHOUT telling the person. Oh, kinda like how Brooke let Lucas go, and just made up some excuse to convince LP that she broke up with him because of some whatever reason. She knew that if she told LP that she was letting Luke go, then they would feel damn guilty. But look at Peyton here, she TOLD Lucas, totally guilt-tripping him here. My God, she can't even do something nice without screwing up for ONCE. And in fact, Peyton wasn't selfless. She had NO CHOICE. That was why she let go. Because she knew she couldn't keep playing bitch anymore,if not EVERYONE is gonna hate her. Which isn't impossible really. :)
And do guys honestly think Mark will give us THREE seasons of back to back LP angst? Nah, I doubt it. =]
Posted by: Vanessa | February 23, 2008 4:46 AM
:(
Peyton and Lucas belong together.
They're the ones that actually made me believe in true love. Surley he wont go off marrying that ugly skank.
Posted by: Meagan | February 22, 2008 11:50 PM
i love brucas actually, but i am starting to like leyton especially because i hate lindsay and lucas together, wonder how long it will take before luke tells lindsay that that is peytons ring?
NALEY!!!!!! is the best
and theat carrie girl is a creepy beeottch
Posted by: Jessica | February 22, 2008 3:16 PM
ok i really do not like the Haley-Lindsey friendship. I get that Lindsey is Haley's bestfriend's gf (now fiance), but it still kind of weirds me out.
This episode may have been my favorite of the season so far. Hilarie Burton played Peyton out sooo well, and the Lucas and Peyton scene seemed so real and so deep
and I really, really wanna know where Deb is at
Posted by: je | February 22, 2008 2:16 PM
BRING BRUCAS BACK!!!
they belong together!!
But that bartender is Hot!!! :P
Posted by: Jaimy | February 22, 2008 7:54 AM
COME ON GYUS ... LOUKAS & PEYTON ARE PERFECT TOGETHER. THEY HAVE TO BE TOGETHER.
Posted by: tonyK | February 22, 2008 1:58 AM
i sure think that peyton and lucas were meant for each other. it just a matter of time. someday,true love will reveal and i hope lucas will patch things up with peyton. he know that he still madly in love with peyton and it will always be that way. good luck to LP.
p/s : writer,please get them both together again. life doesn't need to so suck when we have love.
Posted by: FARIDAH | February 21, 2008 10:55 PM
ummm okay Lucas can have whoever he wants if jake comes back ... bc Jeyton is WAYYYYY sweeter than Leyton will ever be its supposed to be Jake and Peyton anyone agree??
Posted by: Leah | February 21, 2008 10:03 PM
come well u guy lay of haley. she was perfect who else is there to tell luc an peyton to wake up an stop playing with other ppl feeling . i have love haley chaerter since the 1st show. and lucus 2 . there my favorite ccharater .peyton is becoming a drag. every thing seen to just happen 2 her . and is naley alway gone be couple with married trouble come on they need new story line where the drama in show: accident,betral.murder,hate,angry ,love, friendship the charter need more emontion there all depressing rite now
Posted by: rehana | February 21, 2008 6:00 PM
I really want to see Lucas and Peyton back together. GET RID OF LINDSEY! Can't wait to see Peyton show her down in the next episode!
Posted by: Savannah | February 21, 2008 4:37 PM
ok I´ve already left a really long comment.. but reading all this other comments made me want to say something :P
first of all, I´d like to say that I started watching OTH when I was like 14 or 15, and this show made me think about stuff that I jad never thought about before.. it made me see what´s really important in life, and I know it´s just a TV show, but it sends really good messages, so I have to say that I´m really glad I decided to watch the pilot that day 5 years ago, cause it really changed my life in a good way :)
so first of all I have to say I´m a Leyton fan and have been since she almost ran him over with her car in the pilot, and I really hope that they can find their way back cause they made me believe in true love, but despite of that I have watched every single season, even the Brucas centered ones.. and I did that cause I love this show no matter what, and I see more in it that just two possible couples to ship.. we need to start looking into the soul touching scenes and realize how deep and meaninful they really are, and we need to think that this characters aren´t perfect, neither of them.. they´ve all made mistakes and some point, but isn´t that what life is about? making mistakes and try to learn from them?
anyway, I know this was really long, but I just thought that this was important for me to say..
so thank you :)
Posted by: mari | February 21, 2008 3:47 PM
Brookes storylines haven´t been fair since season three. And i´m totaly pissed how they´re presenting brooke as this superduper LP shipper. It´s all b*ullshit! Last time i checked we were watching one tree hill not freakin' leytonshow! You know i really love peyton i do. But she´s driving me crazy at times. She has to be such a bitch, always wanting Lucas when he´s not availible.
To the leyton fans: If we want to lay off the whole brucas thing or not, that´s our decision. There´s no need to tell us to "get over yourselves" and whatnot. Just because we know that leyton is going to end up together doesn´t mean we´re all of the sudden going to ship LP or whatever. We´re still hoping for brucas and that´s it. Mind your own buissnes.
Posted by: jessica | February 21, 2008 1:51 PM
We need Brucas Back!!!!
THey are the one who makes us wanto watch this shoe, and they have greate chemstiry<333
BRUCAS FOREVER(L)
Posted by: Janni | February 21, 2008 1:02 PM
wow was this an episode or what!! im soooo upset i want lucas to marry peyton not that stupid witch!! AND the nanny, i hate her!! nathan and haley are supposed to be together 4ever they are like my idol couple. i heard that they are going to get a divorce!!! a divorce!! i hope thats a lie! i hope that they fix this show immediately cuz there gonna ruin it
Posted by: Tina | February 21, 2008 11:48 AM
Brucas totally belong together! Brooke is Lucas soulmate, Mark please don't forget he made the shot in 307! She's the one for him and everyone knows it!
Posted by: Anonymous | February 21, 2008 11:42 AM
I could rant on and on about how much this season sucks,Mark should be ashamed of himself for tearing down Brucas the way he has.This is stupid I dont care which couple he likes better although I feel the need to point out how writers arent supposed to be so blatently onesided and diss one fanbase ;) just to get their way.Oth has become a joke in so many ways I feel like Im watching the LP show incase its escaped peoples attention its one tree hill and now Im beginning to wonder if actually anyone else exists on this show as everything revolves around two characters and to hell with the other characters its seriously unbelievable
Posted by: WTF? | February 21, 2008 9:46 AM
Lucas=Peyton
Nathan=Haley
Mouth=Millicent
Carrie=annoying and go away
Lindsay=go away
~ thats all there is to it
im so with u there carrie is an huge skank and lindsay is in the way of leyton...they r meant 4 each other!!!
Posted by: Frankie | February 21, 2008 8:52 AM
Hilarie was so wonderful...with her interpretation has touched my hearth...
Posted by: Silvia | February 21, 2008 8:42 AM
What Peyton did was not in my mind at all selfless. It was one last move to manipulate Lucas by bringing up Keith's name, and to stir up some old emotions, so that maybe, he would feel the love for her again. I didn't like that at all. Lucas totally proposed though because she found the ring, re-gifted engagement ring? I mean come on. Peyton has become pathetic, and so has he. And now for something completely different...Nathan needs to fire that nanny IMEDIATELY. I mean who does that? She is risking her job, and possibly a lawsuit. Seriously who does she think she is telling Jamie that she fantasizes about being his mother and then kissing Nathan? what a psycho!
Posted by: Ashley | February 21, 2008 6:18 AM
lucas only proposed to lindsay because she found the ring cause everybody knows that leyton forever. no matter how peyton wil try and move on she will always love lucas and lucas knows
Posted by: michaela | February 21, 2008 6:07 AM
Bring Brooke and Lucas back. Thats all I have to say.
Posted by: vortex | February 21, 2008 3:34 AM
As an LPer last nights episode was completely heart wrenching, and when Peyton kissed his hand before walking away I burst into tears, and almost threw my remote at the TV when he didn't chase after her!!! But at the same time LP wouldn't be who they are without all the angst, and it's only a matter of time before Lindsey realizes that she will never have all of Lukes heart.
Posted by: Stacy | February 20, 2008 10:09 PM
Hilarie was so wonderful in this episode!! I found myself so wrapped up in her performance. Just Great!
BP moments are so nice! Hilarie and Sophia have such great chemistry! even when their characters were fighting!
I'm glad that Haley relented a little in the end saying how she felt lousy about saying those things to Peyton and Lucas. I love Haley I don't want her to look so bi**y. The whole NH story is kind of weird, it's like they are just existing together - no affection at all. Bring Naley back (after booting Carrie)!
I still don't see Lucas & Lindsey chemistry! and the proposal! - OMG that was ridiculous. She was ready to leave him and he had just kissed Peyton, What The Heck?!
Love Jamie and Brooke - sweet moments!
Looking forward to a fiery Peyton next week - no more crying!!
Posted by: marin | February 20, 2008 10:08 PM
omg let me start off with leyton! last episode made me soo mad! i can't believe lucas asked lindsey to marry him, he and peytona are meant to be and the only reason he's with lindsey is bc he feels obligated and since peyton poured her feelings out to him he realized how much he still does love her he went back and wants to get married sooner, obviously bc he's scared to admit he does love peyton and he's scared he's going to back out and not marry lindsey. open your eyes lucas you and peyton are meant to be! hilarie burton's performance was soo amazing she made me cry..twice!
btw who does haley think she is lecturing peyton on what's right and wrong! SHE KISSED ANOTHER GUY WHEN SHE WAS MARRIED! AND SHE LEFT HER HUSBAND FOR MONTHS......did she forget that?!?!
Posted by: alexa | February 20, 2008 9:39 PM
Honestly I found this episode to be the most depressing yet. Hilarie Burton was soo amazing and her tears were so real. I really felt for her. I think that Lucas proposed to Lindsey just because he felt too bad to have her find the ring, and obviously the reason why he is rushing into getting married is he wants to get it over with before he falls in love with Peyton again. I loved Brooke's last move with Owen, I really think she showed how much she has grown up since her years at Tree Hill High. And Carrie...I absolutely can't stand her...she's totally ruining Naley!
Lastly, what I loved most about this episode was Brooke's loyalty to Peyton...when she told Peyton "and now you're going to cry on my shoulder for as long as you need it" I died...I thought it was so beautiful and really showed off their friendship.
I can't wait until next week!!
Posted by: Kayla | February 20, 2008 9:28 PM
How was Peyton being selfless by TELLING Lucas she still loved him and that she was going to be selfless? In order to be selfless, you need to be doing something for someone, not doing something/saying something to make yourself look good.
Regardless, though, her "selflessness" comes too little, too late.
Leyton have never been believable as a couple, and never will be. Brucas will always be a better match.
Posted by: Summer | February 20, 2008 9:22 PM
Okay I'm going to start with Lucas. It's in incredibly poor taste to give your current girlfriend a ring meant for your ex. I don't care if Peyton saw it or not. Brooke most certainly did and I wonder how long it is until Lindsay finds out she's wearing a ring not only meant for one of his ex girlfriend's, but also worn by another one of his ex's.
And the character most out of character in this episode...Brooke. I cannot believe Mark Schwann had the audacity to write Brooke telling Peyton to go after Lucas, after what it did to her. No way do I believe that Brooke would ever encourage someone to cheat after what it did to her.
So Haley let Peyton have it. Do your real friends always tell you what you want to hear? No, they tell you the truth and that's what she was doing. Peyton never wants Lucas until she can't have him. Then she has all these feelings. Haley and Lindsay probably are friends. We have been led to believe that Peyton hasn't really been around the past few years. No crime in befriending your best friend's new girl. I do find that while Haley can see everything else going on, she can't see right through her nanny.
Posted by: Lysa | February 20, 2008 8:45 PM
OTH is by far my favorite out of all the shows on the cw. This season has been amazing but hard to follow sometimes. The back and forth through 4 years is distracting, especially when it goes for an entire episode! Dont get me wrong this season is great!!
What i dont like is Lucas and Lindsay. Yeah Peyton didnt accept Lucas's proposal but she didnt say no either. Lucas took what she said the wrong way and ruined it. Peyton is to blame in a way too because just because youre engaged doesnt mean you have to get married right away. In Lucas and Lindsey's case i think Lucas wants to tie the knot before he has a chance to back out or doubt his intentions.
The whole nanny Carrie situation is a little creepy. First of all if i were Haley i would be more careful from the start. I wouldnt have Carrie living with me.
Im proud of Mouth, i think he and Millicent will make a great couple!
The only problem i have with the show is Lindsey. No one likes her!!
what i have been wondering is this...
what happened to Bevin and Skillz?
Chase and Brooke?
Rachel?
where is Lucas's mom?
where is Nathan's mom?
theres soo much that i am dyingg to know about!!!
Posted by: Rita | February 20, 2008 8:40 PM
I think Peyton made the right choice. She wanted to be with Lucas since forever and she came back for him. And ever since then he has been giving her mixed signals. She tried to stay away and finally she just opened her heart up to him, even though it wasnt the best time because he was Lindsay but she had to do it or she would suffer the rest of her life for it. Then they kiss each other and then he proposes. She begs and pleads for him. So the only thing left for her to do it just wait, and if he wants to be with her ( which he does, but he is trying to be stronger and is in denial and such) he will be, eventually. Peyton is so selfless and Hilarie Burton is the best actress on the show hands down.
Lucas and Peyton will find their way back to each other, their true love is undeniable.
And Lucas and Lindsay, I feel so badly for Lindsay. I believe they do love each other, she loves him very much I know but Lucas proposed because he had to keep her. He does love her but he knew what he did was wrong and he couldnt lose her, yet. He couldnt lose another girl, and when she said everything he wished Peyton said three years ago he did what he thought was right( which was of course wrong because he kissed someone else like 10 mintues ago) but I still think he was on some level happy, but it was just wrong because he def. loves Peyton. He is just trying to be something else, a different guy.
And the end when LP were on BC- omgosh so beautiful. The handholding, gosh love them so much. Lucas then runs to Lindsay and wants to get married sooner, even though all of us could tell from the tears in his eyes the saddness he felt because there is no one else besdies Peyton. So now he is trying to move on and he thinks the sooner they get married, once he is married he wont have to worry about loving Peyton.
But Lucas think straight, and end things with Lindsay or at least tell the WHOLE truth. Lindsay is a great person, she desrves better. And fight for Peyton, because God knows how horrible you treated her and everything she has went through for you and the mistakes and heartaches she has endured.
thank you (:
my 2 cents.
p.s i gave up the forusm for lent and so i have no where else to talk! Hhaha
Posted by: courtney | February 20, 2008 8:26 PM
I think it sucks that Lucas is marrying Lindsay because i am a HUGE Leyton fan. But I am so proud of Peyton. I think if she fought for Lucas, she would win. But she doesn't want to be known for stealing Lucas again and again and again. Lucas still loves Peyton and i dont think he will go through with the wedding and if he does Lindsey will realize he still loves Peyton and say no. and I disagree with Jenn because every episode of One Tree Hill is amazing no matter what happens. I like Molly because she is different and happy and loves peyton and lucas. And Peyton wasn't comparing them to Karen and Keith she was using their love as an example. and no matter what happens i will stay with One Tree Hill. Although I am hoping for Lucas and Peyton to be together I will always watch One Tree Hill. and jenny i agree with you 100%
Posted by: audreanna staley | February 20, 2008 8:04 PM
Lucas=Peyton
Nathan=Haley
Mouth=Millicent
Carrie=annoying and go away
Lindsay=go away
~ thats all there is to it
Posted by: carly | February 20, 2008 7:56 PM
I agree with who said that it's not true about Brucas being a "bump in the road" toward Leyton. So untrue, they were in love like no one else and I'm sick of this Leyton crap. Let me tell you something Lucas and Brooke, you don't jsut decide one day to break up and then be like, "oh, go marry my best friend!" It's fake, and EVERYONE knows the only reason its happening that way is becuase of the Chophia break-up.
I've got more to say, but I'm too frustrated.
and FYI, Leyton was over since season 1, but Mark brought it back so what makes you think he won't bring Brucas back?!
Posted by: Jessica | February 20, 2008 7:39 PM
I am so completely proud of Peyton. She has shown so much strength in the face of adversity and even though like you guys I really want her to fight for him, I think it's time that he fought back for her a little.
It's always Peyton that has to make the first move and I really want the next time they get together for it to be mutual.
I really disliked Haley this episode, she has this holier than thou way of talking that just rubs me the wrong way. She needs to get off her high horse and focus more on her own marriage and her psycho Nanny!
Posted by: Nadia | February 20, 2008 7:28 PM
I have been watching OTH since the pilot, and I don´t think I´ve ever cried as much as I did with this episode, it was one of the most beautiful episodes, ignoring the nanny storyline, cause I didn´t enjoy that :P
I really want nathan to be honest with haley, he owes her that!
I really love the Mouth and Millicent storyline, they seem to make each other happy and they´re really sweet :)
I absolutely loved the Brooke and Peyton scene, I honestly believe that their friendship is one of the most important things on this show..
and about leyton, I just really loved hearing a bit about what lucas wrote on his book, his words were beautiful and I´m not ready to believe that they are really in the past now..
I think Peyton did the right thing letting him go, she wants him to be happy and she´s willing to sacrifice her happiness for his..
anyway, this episode made my love for Leyton even stronger.. I know they´re in a bad situation right now, but their story is too epic to be avoided, so I really hope they can find their way back to each other..
LUCAS + PEYTON
TRUE LOVE ALWAYS
PS: btw the music on this episode was amazing, from the susie suh song, to ashes and wine.. perfect songs for the scenes and situations!
Posted by: mari | February 20, 2008 7:00 PM
Oh Dear!!
That was some episode...
First of all Nannie carrie needs a beat down but that will come in time!!
Lucas is a nastiness!! The same ring.. That is nasty. And all the people who talking about Peyton being out of place to compare her self to Keith!! We all love Keith but even he had his shortcomings... Didn't he sleep with his brother's wife? As evil as Dan is Keith was still wrong. What a conveneient memory we have.Didn't we forgive him.. What because he died he is a saint? I wanted him to be with Karen and was sad when he died but at the same time he made mistakes too!
Tell me something, Didn't Lucas at the end of last season encourage Peyton to pursue the career? Some support.... Lucas is acting like a little boy! He is not nearly a man!Where in the hell does it say that Peyton at nineteen years telling Lucas someday she'll marry him was rejection!!
And where the hell does Haley get off? Hello!!! Chris Keller? But i want to hear her high and mighty self when she realise that somebody walk off with her man and son! I hope she can look herself in the mirror and say 'well haley, Nathan fell in love with sonebody else, why are you trying to take that from him'! I think Nathan is wrong and carrie needs a bitch slap but i just want haley to come off of her pedestal!!
Peyton doing what she did takes courage, trust me and until you are in that situation you wont be able to understand that!!
Posted by: Quicha | February 20, 2008 6:33 PM
Way to go Peyton for being the better person! If only she would have taken the high road when Lucas was dating Brooke. Peyton is a good person, and I think that they need to reflect that from now on. Stop sending Peyton after sloppy seconds, she's too good for that! Bring back Jake, Rachel, Chase, and hopefully...BRUCAS!!!
Posted by: Sara | February 20, 2008 6:16 PM
Sigh...where to begin? That episode last night broke my heart. I felt like I was reliving Dawson and Joey which is not good coz they didn't end up together! I agree with Peyton because at this point what is she going to do? Everywhere she turns there is someone telling her to move on and it makes sense. It did break my heart though coz the poo girl can't catch a break. They belong together...Lucas knows it, Peyton knows it, Lindsey knows it (she looks so desperate right now) and everyone watching (residents of Tree Hill and TV Land) know it so when is Lucas going to admit it! Right when he is at the altar I am guessing.
Nanny Carrie needs to go take a long walk off a short pier...and Nathan should join her soon coz he is doing nothing to fix this situation! Fire the nanny and call it a day!
One last thing (I could do on forever, just ask my sister) but Hilarie Burton has impressed me lately. That last scene with Lucas last night made me cry and it was all her. Well done, Hilarie Burton.
Posted by: Arleen | February 20, 2008 6:03 PM
I did not like the proposal.I hope in the final season,Lucas and Peyton find a way to get together
Posted by: Chieu Nguyen | February 20, 2008 5:56 PM
well i agree dan send carrie it fit or either she is a sicko . love lucus total hale she his number 1 and hale tell peyton off but she need to dis lucus 2 . and nathen tell carrie to stop i think and hope he tell hale abt kiss or his marriage is finish .hal + luc= bestfriend for life . naley cutes ever bu were the love there fost married coupple den dan an deb , bring karen back what with haley storyline boring
Posted by: rehana | February 20, 2008 5:46 PM
I LOVE! one tree hill
but I didnt like th
episode well the whole season becuase of the Leyton thing,
Like Haley said Peyton had her chance and now is over. She should move away from one tree hill and leave Lucas alone.
She is always trying to take someone elses man.
First Brooke and Now Lindsay.
Lucas and Brooke were ment to be together and Lucas need to realize, that Brooke is the one.
Peyton has to realize that her and Lucas's love wasnt the real thing that she need to go back to jack and stay there.
BRING BRUCAS BACK!!
True love will always find there way in the end and that is what Brucas is all about.
One Tree Hill is nothing without Brucas, Naley, & Jeyton
Posted by: Melanie | February 20, 2008 5:39 PM
i am ticked off about the whole thing, i cannot believe that Lucas would regift a ring that was bought for Peyton, I was so mad after last nights episode!! Honestly Leyton has been trying to get together since the show started, so please just put them together already so that we can see a little of what their lives are like together before the show goes off air!!!!
Posted by: shannon | February 20, 2008 5:00 PM
Okay on the Brucas/Leyton thing:
It has been 3 years: and Brooke does not Love LUCAS anymore. GET OVER IT BRUCAS people.
I really liked Jake & Peyton together-I kinda wish they would end up togeter in the end--but it is GONNA be Lucas & Peytons....
Posted by: Cissy | February 20, 2008 4:49 PM
brucas is lame, how is brooke selfless? She left lucas coz she knew hed never love her like he loves Peyton. Peyton WAS selfless, because we all know if she didnt end it with lucas he would keep acting stupid and go betwen her and lindsey and act stupid and confused. I hope leyton find their way back, BRUCAS SUCKS and LUCSAY sucks even WORSE
Posted by: Anonymous | February 20, 2008 4:33 PM
Lucas and Peyton will definitely find their way back...I think that this time, Lucas will realize the mistakes he's made, and will really fight for Peyton, which a lot of us have been waiting to see since season 1
Posted by: susan | February 20, 2008 4:29 PM
I dont understand why Brooke Ships Leyton. Im sick of it BRING BRUCAS BACK.
Posted by: Tom | February 20, 2008 4:22 PM
One of the most beautiful episodes for the couple Lucas & Peyton. Not because they're back, cuz obviously they're not, but because Peyton showed what love is really about, usually people say that love is blind, but it's not; true love is clairvoyant.
Who can sacrifice himself for someone he's not in love with ? No one can.
About Lucas, I think I can understand his decision, our hearts are difficult to follow sometimes, and even when we do, people can get hurt. I really think he's in love with Lindsay, even if he still have feelings for Peyton.
Thank you to all the creators, cast, post and pre-production staff for all this amazing work, this year has been awesome!
Sincerely,
Jenny
Posted by: Jenny | February 20, 2008 4:08 PM
I want brucas together. I just love them. I want naily, brucas and jake and payhton together. I hope that brucas get back together after ep 12. And that they will have a baby;)
Posted by: Lovebrucas | February 20, 2008 3:54 PM
ok. so this is getting ridicoulous. i love one tree hill and have been watching it since the first episode, but really im hating this whole lindsey and lucas thing. its getting annoying to watch peyton get angry and upset ever scince she came home. lucas shouldnt have runn off in LA and peyton should have ran after him. if there is a girl living in her house telling peyton how she feels about their lifelong love story, then obviously there is a matter of time before they get back together. WHY DIDNT NATHAN TELL HALEY ABOUT THE KISS? i love this show but this is getting really cheesssy.
Posted by: virginia | February 20, 2008 3:25 PM
I definitely think that peyton made the right decision. It was the perfect act of selflessness. She has already fought for him hard enough. She poured out her heart plenty of times, even begged, and Lucas hasn't even said a word. It's his turn to fight.
Hopefully, Peyton's act of sacrifice will remind him how much he misses her, and he will finally reach out to her (like we all know he wants to!!) so he won't lose her for good.
I'm still rooting for leyton! but Peyton is being very mature in her decision to let it go. If he truly loves her like she loves him, he will come back.
Posted by: Nikki | February 20, 2008 3:22 PM
Well, the only redeeming quality to this episode was Haley. We got to see her backbone resurface in this episode. I was so happy with what she said to Peyton. It's almost an extension with what Lucas told Peyton in the previous episode (before the kiss, that is). Yes, you were in love, but that was three years ago. If you wanted him then, why didn't you fight for him?? Why want him when he's happy with someone else? He's moved on, Peyton.
And what really burned me in this episode is how fans of Brooke and Lucas are supposed to accept the fact that their relationship was just a "bump in the road" towards Lucas realizing his "true love" is Peyton. Nope, not gonna happen after there were two seasons of Lucas declaring his love for Brooke, showing how they were meant to be together, he was "the one" for her.
And Brooke being the new LP cheerleader? Yes, Peyton was like that in Season 2 and most of Season 3, but neither Brooke or Lucas was with someone. They were single, unattached. Now with Brooke this season, her relationship with Lucas was in the past, but saying that their relationship was wrong, it was a distraction..now that is something I don't want to believe.
And the nanny just needs to completely fade away. Nathan...why didn't you fire her after she kissed you?? I would have said pack your bags, you're outta here..even before the kiss. It's just so sad that Nathan and Haley can't have one season where there drama is not going to cause a huge strain on their marriage. I'm not liking this direction.
Where is this fresh start with the four year time jump? It kind of started out that way. Why go backwards when the whole point was to go forwards.
Posted by: Ali | February 20, 2008 3:00 PM
Why can't we get Brucas back :(
Posted by: Lucy Lou | February 20, 2008 2:47 PM
So tired of Layton! Seriously already they dated in high school and lived on different side of the country.. More on Naley, Skills,Brooke and Mouth. Nathen needs to step up and take care of that skank nanny Carrie. Much like he did with Rachel.
Posted by: Beth | February 20, 2008 2:42 PM
you guys have to get over BRUCUS.. thats been over and done with since last season !
peyton and lucus were supose to be together and it sucks it ended up this way.. haley is being a bitch to peyton, shes been friends with her since hs and now all of a sudden takes lindsays side. i understand lindsey is engaged to lucus but come onnnnnnn.. the girl is fighting for her man.. she can do w.e she wants.. its lucus who is in the wrong. he shouldnt have kissed her if he didnt love her and he shouldnt be acting the way he is. peyton isnt lindeys friend.. she doesnt owee it to her to be a good friend. but haley does. esp. when she did the same thing with the whole chris keller thing. how come brook isnt taking lindeys side? .. maybe cus shes being a good friend to peyton. unlike haley over here getting her nose into everyones business.. she should worry about her own marriage which might get distroyed b.c of this nanny situtation.
once again, u people have to get over brucus. its been over & done with.
they never had a connection like lucus and peyton ever had. he wrote a goddamn book about the girl!
Posted by: rita | February 20, 2008 2:27 PM
Cant get enough on OTH right now.
Ok so Carrie is creeping me out, I hate her.. lucas and lindsey should not get married,(LP 4 EVER <3) Hilaire/peyton is an awesome actress but in this episode she really does deliver, its such a sad scene but one of my favorite scenes, when Peyton and Brooke are at the fire place and they burns the book.
Its nice to see Brook lending peyton a shoulder to cry on, I guess its true what they say.. its through the rough times you really know who your friends are.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 20, 2008 2:24 PM
we NEED to have peyton and lucas back to gether it is the only way
Posted by: beth | February 20, 2008 2:09 PM
Bring Brucas back!
Leyton suck!
Plus, this is so out of character for Brooke to be all pro-LP.
Peyton needs to find her own manm why not Jake? Lucas is with Lindsay now. She only wants him when he is in a relationship. This is not true love at all. And pluh-ease ?? Peyton, selfless like keith was? Go talk to Brooke instead She gave up Lucas for her bitch of a BFF.
Posted by: marylin | February 20, 2008 2:03 PM
Ignoring the nanny storylinge, this episode was my favorite of the season simply because of Lucas and Peyton. The symbolism, the music, the quote from Lucas' book, and Peyton's voice over were awesome. LP will find their way back to each other eventually, I have no doubt. Wonderful performance by Hilarie, I was crying with her every scene. Lucas needs another moment of clairty (and a slap), but until then, LP's love will be burning fiercely below the surface.
Posted by: Erin | February 20, 2008 1:18 PM
You know what, I love Haley but she was acting like a real bitch in the last episode. Sticking up for Lindsay? Oh please. She has absolutely no right to judge Peyton! Hello! Wasn't she the one who was making out with C.Keller while being MARRIED to Nathan!? I understand that Lindsay is her friend too, but Peyton's been her friend since high school. She knows Lucas still loves P. and she knows Peyton still loves Luke so she should try to encourage them to get back together because she knows they're the most happy when they're with each other. Again, I love Haley but she's being a lousy friend to both Luke and Peyton!
Posted by: Arya* | February 20, 2008 12:17 PM
Hey guys...let me just say I love this show! I am glad to see Lucas moving on and not playing Peytons games...it seems like she only REALLY wants him...when someone else has him. I know that people love that couple but if Brooke cant have him I dont think Peyton should either...I know their relationship isnt gonna pan out but its still nice to see something a little different for once. As far as Nanny Psycho...I think she is just a nut...I dont think anyone sent her but the devil...the real devil not Dan...LOL...I think Nathan needs to man up and tell Haley whats been going, suffer the consequences and let the girl HIT THE ROAD! It will be better off in the end. OH and by the way...I loved how Haley told Peyton off. I dont know how well that friendship is gonna be now but I dont care. Someone needed to tell her what was up.
Posted by: Lindsey | February 20, 2008 12:16 PM
I dont know if this had been said before, but we have to stop hating Carrie. I really think Dan has sent her. He did the same thing to Kieth. And the episode that Carrie really turning it on, was the same episode Jammie Jam was having nightmares about Dan. The very first shot of the epsisode is the shot of the prison and Dan. THat is a hint and a shadow. So its Carrie that is enslaved somehow to Dan and she has to do this. Why else would she try so hard?
Posted by: Danniel | February 20, 2008 11:48 AM
HELLO!!to all one tree hill fans!i am from greece and i download the new episodes every thursday,so i han't watch this episode yet!till now i have to admit that nothing interisting happened!and i can;t understan how lucas forgot so easily brooke!they are meant for each other!and if you watch previous seasons you can tell that he is very in love with her!i don't want the triangle again,but the chemistry between them was obvious!and mark just erase that love..i am very disappointed,but happy that see them....lov u all
Posted by: maria | February 20, 2008 11:14 AM
Okayy, this episode was very angering. Peyton had no right to compare herself to keith in any way (and when you say your sacrificing your love....you dont tell the man!!!) That nanny has got to go, she has no right doing what she does with nathan (and why hasnt he fired her yet???)
Lastly, the one good thing that came from the episode was haley sticking up for lindsay, i really do feel bad for the girl and haley was able to see that the peyton lucas love triangle is so high school and they are ruining this poor girl. All i gotta say for next week is that it is has to be interesting(cry little rich girl---jealous because your the only poor girl there P...hmmmm??)
Posted by: Lana | February 20, 2008 11:11 AM
Peyton is just in a crappy situation. She can't really keep going after Lucas because then she would be the cheater again, and it sucks for her if she does bary her feelings. I think she is doing the best thing for now to try to be his friend.
and Nathann. come onnnn! if he doesnt tell Haley now she will eventually find out and wonder why Nathan never told her in the first place. All he is doing by keeping Carrie around is tempting himself and putting himslf in a bad position.
Posted by: je | February 20, 2008 10:54 AM
I'm really proud od Peyton! She wants Lucas to be happy. But I'm also sad because she just let go. I'm not really sure what's up with Lucas - we know he still loves Peyton, we can see it in his eyes, so why oh why did he propose to Lindsay then. How can he look into Peyton's eyes and let her cry suffer like this?!
Posted by: Arya* | February 20, 2008 10:45 AM
I like Lucas and Lindsey cause if he gets with Peyton I think brooke shouldnt be friends with them anymore since its like so what with Brooke. Brooke rocks maybe Lucas should leave the show and everything would be fine.
Posted by: Colby | February 20, 2008 10:45 AM
I absolutely hate Nanny Carrie. Although Nathan is not falling for most of her tricks he is not doing much to stop them! She needs to go away. I do NOT like Lindsay at ALL!!! I want Peyton and Lucas back. It broke my heart when Peyton told Lucas that she was basically giving up and going to let go because that is what keith did for Karen. I think when she said that to Lucas it hit him hard and he started thinking about things, such as the past. Because of this I think Lucas is scared he will do something that will Lindsay and that is why he told her that they should get married right away. We all know that he still loves her even though he won't say it! I just hope that something messes with Lindsay and Lucas so she can leave and let Peyton and Lucas realize that they are made for each other and nothing is going to change that. Just like the girl that lives in peyton's room now, I dream of a romance like lucas and Peyton's. Their story is amazing. Hopefully things will work out the way I want them to, because everyone around me knows I am not happy with the way things are going right now in the new season of OTH!
Posted by: Jenn | February 20, 2008 10:20 AM
I really disliked this episode because one they keep making Brooke out to be this big Leyton shipper like she and Lucas never had history together and keep saying how they were wrong for each other and other random things like that. I really didn't like how they made Brooke do the naked in the backseat with Owen because that is such a Brucas thing and I could have sworn that Brooke said in Season 3 that it was so two season ago. I don't like that new Molly chick because is she is to preppy and happy, and that fact that she lives off a book and a door is pretty weird.
Second Peyton is not selfless and she can't compare herself to Keith because she is no Keith and it was wrong to even try and compare her relationship to Lucas, to Karen/Keith. I loved Haley because she told Peyton as it is and I hope she doesn't talk to Peyton any time soon because she doesn't deserve it!
Bring Brucas Back!
Posted by: Marc | February 20, 2008 10:02 AM