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And Con, just a little quote for you, taken right from this little blog entry.

Sam: You've got choices, Jesse. But if you make the wrong ones, it will haunt you for the rest of your life.
Jesse: Why are you telling me this?!
Sam: Because I have to believe that someone can make the right choice -- even if I couldn't.

Looks to me like Sam knows he's made bad choices. Or am I reading this incorrectly? Don't bother saying that I am reading it incorrectly, I already know I'm not.

I was so friggin' pissed at Castiel in this episode, you have no idea. I just about punched my fist through my television screen when he was like, "You didn't!" SAM DIDN'T KNOW EVERYTHING! Grrararar. I honestly believe that if Sam had KNOWN that killing Lillith would start the Apocalypse, he wouldn't have done it. But he didn't know. Because he was manipulated. By the angels, including CASTIEL! Friggin-A, Cas is the one that let Sam out of the panic room in the first place! They all lied to Sam, made him think that Lillith was going to start the Apocalypse, and that killing her would fix the problem. So Sam did what he thought he had to do to save the world. It blew up in his face, but who was to blame for him not knowing everything? Castiel! And the angels and Ruby, but still. Cas had his own part to play, and I'm just waiting for the day when he finally admits to it.

Just so y'all know, I adore Castiel, except for that little tidbit. =]

One more thing.... JARED PADALECKI SAID MY LAST NAME! He was talking about Jesse Turner, and I just about died.

I liked the episode, but I'm getting somewhat doubtful of Castiel. I don't exactly know where his character is going towards anymore. I liked it when he was a questioning angel but still tied to heaven.

Let me clarify; I don't hate Sam! However, I am very frustrated with the character's behavior and the obvious contempt he has for his brother.

I could easily forgive Sam for everything he did last season if he were truly apologetic for ALL of it. He isn't! He wants to pick and choose what he should be sorry for. And I could actually respect him again if I saw some positive changes in him. I don't! He is still tunnel visioned, dismissive, and has a general scence of superiority. I was hoping to see Sam stronger and yet humbled by his experience. But instead he is still ego driven.

Sam did have a choice! He consorted with a demon who told his brother she "wanted to watch the flesh sizzle off his bones and listen to him scream" in hell. He let his vices rule him and look what happend because of it. I don't blame Sam for the apocalypse because there is enough blame to go around, but I do blame him for every bad choice, every betrayal and for the pain that he caused others along the way (Dean, Bobby, the nurse, the ghost boy etc.).

Sam is not some harbinger of evil! He's a man who's flaws have gone unchecked for most of his life. So maybe it's a bit unfair to expect him to change overnight. But I do want to see change. He also needs to put as much effort into rebuilding his relationship with his brother as it took for him to destroy it. It would be a real shame not to use the circumstances of season 4 for growth and change. Let's hope that the writers agree.

Here's my view: Sam is trying to atone for what he's done, but it just doesn't seem like it's enough for Castiel.

They are both different characters and are entitled to their respective opinions. Ultimately it was Sam who saved the day with his words, but to be honest, Castiel's option seemed more practical.
I guess Castiel just needs some more time to recognize that a child can be shaped by nurture and it's not always nature. Battle between nature v nurture was also in Davis' on Smallville's situation, but I won't get into that since Smallville killed him in the worst way possible.

Not bad ep. Jess T brought up a good point. I'd also like to see the return of the scary Supernatural had in the beginning of the series.

oh yeah and screwing an angel is soo much better.
sam thought ruby was good.
people need to shut up cause if angels could be bad than demons could be good.

its ALWAYS what SAM does wrong but lets face it if dean didnt break the first seal, the last one wouldnt be broken either

i mean it was BOTH of their faults so get over sam screwing ruby

anyway i think all the episodes of the fifth season all deserved a's

I am not a Castiel fan at all, he needs to get off the pedastal he's put himself on and realize that he had a massive hand in this apocalypse. For christ's sake he was the one who let Sam out knowing what it was going to mean. Sam had no clue what killing Lilleth really meant. I hope Sam lays the smackdown on him really soon because his hypocrisy is getting ridiculous now and Sam does not deserve it.

Hi folks,
is it really necessary to post comments in such a derogaroty fashion?
Let's not forget: these are fictional characters.
Your lack of civility does you no credit.

Shut up Castiel, seriously. Before I tolerated him thinking he was aiding the story now I think he needs to go fall over a bottomless cliff. He has some nerve to come at Sam and blame him for everything, saying Sam made the wrong choice, uhhh hello Sam didn't get a choice at all. He was manipulated at every turn and thought he was saving the world, Castiel has no such excuse. He knew very well that killing Lillith would be releasing Lucifer and he let Sam out of that panic room anyway he seriously needs to stop with the Judge Judy nature and the blame game.

Sam is the only one who's stepped up and owned his mistakes and apparantly everyone elses like a man this season and I am ridiculously proud of him.

That being said a Sam/Castiel angry relationship is better than the writers having him just ignore Sam. I hope Sam and he have massive tension and he learns from Sam's example this season.

Don't know how I feel about Dean letting someone hurt Sam either, he never ever would have stood there and let someone blame Sam in the past and I don't like seeing it now.

I liked the last half of the episode definitely. I didn't know exactly what to think about the tooth fairy because that was disgusting to be truthful. Seeing a guy in a tutu with wings is something I should never have to see again. I kind of miss only seeing the shadows of the supernatural. Kripke was right. Some things if you don't see the actual form is more scary than seeing the monster in flesh. Though it was there to illustrate a point, I didn't really enjoy the kids lies that come true. I was hoping to see some more of the real creepy stuff Supernatural dealt with in the earlier seasons. The beginning seemed like a joke (which it was probably meant to be) but I would have rather seen it as a scary/creepy type of scenario.

Onto the main portion of the episode: All in all, I enjoyed most of it because I liked the relation of a seemingly monster-of-the-week case incorporated into the apocalypse mythology. Agreed with Con as to Sam's eyerolling at Dean. I don't think he gets that luxury after all that's happened.

The kid acted well. If he gets a return episode in the future, I'll be all for it. A lot of times the kids can poorly act their roles especially on dramatic scenes. (cough* that kid on OTH. cute, but definitely not a good actor)

Castiel... Loved him tearing down Sam. Sam deserved it. Castiel has the right to want to kill the Antichrist. Knowing so much about his power, Cas chose the lesser of two evils. If I were an angel in that position, I would do the exact same thing. Remember that Castiel is an angel and his first priority is to his own brethren. Even though he's rebelled, his loyalties lie with Heaven and towards his father so I think no one can blame Cas for acting as he did.
IF you think that Cas was generally powerless against Jesse, I think you'd be mistaken. First, Cas appeared before him as a warning. This gave me the impression that he truly was a little uncertain about killing a child. Castiel would probably do a sneak attack like he did in 5x01 Sympathy for the Devil. He sort of just appeared before Jesse talked with him before giving a forward stab (easiest to counter when you can see it clearly in front of you -__-)

I did like how Sam convinced Jesse and pulled him away from the demon. That was good. Good job Sam. Hopefully Jesse got the message and it'll stay that way, but only time will tell.

One thing that bothered me (but this is probably just me) is that Sam and Dean were crouching down to talk on eyelevel to Jesse near the end when explaining about leaving his family. For a kid, that makes them feel really small. I was annoyed when my relatives did that to me. Lol a fun fact about me haha.

Besides the not-so-serious cases in the beginning, I generally enjoyed this episode. I would really like to see that Kripke puts more of the creepiness from Season 1 and 2 into this season. It seems that Supernatural is losing some of the roots it originated from.

Oh, great, first comment I read and it's the usual Sam bashing. God, I'm sick of that. Neither Sam nor Dean are perfect, both are to blame for different things and Sam has plenty of good in him as well as the bad, just like Dean. It's getting to the point where I don't want to read comments at all because of all the vitriol against Sam. If you hate him that much, stop watching the show. As for last night's ep, that makes two disappointing ones in a row for me. I did like parts of the Jesse story line, mainly the discussion with Sam and Dean when they came clean to him; and parts of the MOTW stuff were okay. But for some reason the writing for the boys still seems 'off' somehow and the ending in the car just seemed stilted and awkward, as if something more desperately needed to be inserted there at the last but all we got was long seconds of dead air before the fade to the end credits. I feel somehow dissatisfied with the caliber of discourse between the boys these past two episodes, even allowing leeway for the fact that they ARE still struggling to reconnect. I do get that; but even with that caveat, I'm just not happy with the writing for them.

It wasn't as bad as last weeks but I still wasn't impressed.

First of all I would be supremely happy if I never saw Sam's disapproving eyeroll/bitchface combo EVER again!!!!!!!!!! For a guy who was weakwilled, disloyal and stupid as well as depraved for screwing a demon in a dead girl's body (demon sex/necrophylia=sick) and treating Cara like a sperm depository, then ditching her without even saying goodbye; he sure has alot of nerve for being all disapproving of innocent acts such as flirting with a girl or eating a ham. What is wrong with him anyway? Does he still not realize how damn lucky he is that he is getting a second chance with the brother he betrayed? A chance that he didn't earn nor does he deserve! I guess that I just need to accept what other people have been saying. Sam is back with Dean out of necessity, not because he wants to be!!!

The kid who played Jesse was great. He really held his own.

I loved Castiel calling Sam out on his crap (I was glad someone did this episode). Having said that, I think Cas is still rather hypocritical and needs to realize and admit his own culpability in all of this mess.

I adored Dean. I still love that despite all that he has been through, he still finds joy in little things.

Lastly, the boys wish John had lied to them. I agree. But John did lie to Sam in order to protect him for as long as he could. John had already ridden Dean off as damaged goods at age 4/5 so he never got the lie.

Anyway so so ep. I give it a C+.