Bush loses Ag sec'y, holds press conference

"Follow your heart, and check your desk drawer for an envelope."

Great, just what we need in the Senate, yet another brainless Republican Bushworshiper. They're like cockroaches, you spray and squash and clean, and they just keep popping up.

Mike, you will be a great addition to the wing nuts.

Remember, those "Poor" farmers are counting on you to bring home those welfare dollars!!!

Nebraska should only have one Senator, Nelson, because the state is worthless!!!!!

Oh Raving Loonatic, Nebraska has more to offer this country than the embarrassment that is Illinois. We have two of the worst senators in Little Dickie Durbin and Barack "No Experience" Obama. We have the worst governor in the country in Blablooeyavich. The worst run state in the union.

And Thomas Westgard, I'd love to use that cockroach spray on the Loony Lefties, truly the most worhtless beings mankind has to offer. You folks make Japanese beetles seem like bumblebees.

Amen, John D.

The Attorney's Soviet Socialist Republic of Illinois is at its best a zit on the butt of Nebraska. The best thing that could happen to this state would be a giant meteorite randomly falling on the capitol during a fully-occupied State of the Mistake address by the boob who calls himself governor.

Democrats/Liberals in this state consists of two groups: 1) a small group of evil people who know what they are doing (namely, anything to retain power over other people, for that is what they lust for) and 2) a large group of poorly educated morons, who follow them around and suck at the state teat.

Oh, for the day when I can leave this godforsaken place.

John D,
I think Johanns is leaving because like everyone in the BA, his chances wane with every minute he is associated with that neo-fascist, i mean, neo-Con Bush. Just think about how much MORE freedom you have now.
Just think about how manny MORE rights you have now. Think about how SMALL our deficit is now, and how GREAT our economy is now. All Republican values right?
Fascism is NOT freedom, think about it.

Democrats/Liberals in this state consists of two groups: 1) a small group of evil people who know what they are doing (namely, anything to retain power over other people, for that is what they lust for) and 2) a large group of poorly educated morons, who follow them around and suck at the state teat.

Oh, for the day when I can leave this godforsaken place.

Posted by: Bill T | September 20, 2007 11:20 AM

Sounds like the Republicans who infest DuPage county.
What's holding you up, Bill?? Take John D. with you.
Oh, for the day Bush is no longer President.

Jeff M.,

I know it's become "common knowledge" in the last few years, and quite fashionable to assert, that America has become a fascist nation since January 2001. So I want to hear from folks on this board (including you, Jeff), precisely how you believe the Bush administration has restricted YOUR freedom or taken away YOUR rights. This is an honest question. I am simply seeking to know.

The Bush Administration informed local law enforcement officials that it was permissible to set-up road blocks and checkpoints outside of apartment complexes, and to search the cars and check driving records of everyone leaving or entering the premises, without cause. This has been done several times, in good neighborhoods as well as bad, in various cities. I've lived in two apartment complexes where this has been done. Most people cannot afford the attorney fees to "challenge" such actions in court, so they must comply or be arrested, by default.
A law-abiding Republican, I find this practice abhorrent and invasive.

It is amazing what masochists that Republican'ts are ... the handful of hangers-on are sooo diluted that they actually believe they have even a shred of a prayer in the next election cycle. Republicans are retiring in droves and heading for the hills and this character thinks that he can run a successful campaign after serving in the administration of the worst president in the history of the planet. Sheez.

Simple enough...

1.) My right to privacy (blanket wire tapping/record seizures all with gag orders on them)

2.) My right to freely assemble (political and peacful dessenters are denied their legal right to attend Bush events) (When protesters are allowed to assemble (peacfully) they are confined inside chain link fence enclosures blocks away from a reasonable location)

3.) My right to a free press (any tough questions asked of the presedent gets the reporter AND network black listed and denied their legal access) (The White House publishing fiction as news)

4.) My right to freedom of speech (illegale gag orders etc)

5.) My right to a speedy trial by my peers (The president on his sole discretion can define ANYONE as an enemy combatant and hold you as a prisoner of war)

6.) My neighbors right to Habeus Corpus (non-citizens, even legal ones no longer have this right even though the constitution specifices Person not citizen)

I can go on and one if you like.

My personal freedoms have not been affected whatsoever. The problem with anyone who thinks their freedoms have been taken away have yet to understand that some of these so called freedoms, or rights, are actually privileges. For example, it is not a God-given or constitution-given right to be able to board a public airplane without being searched. It is not a God-given or constitution-given right to come into this Country illegally, or to even drive a car. Voting is a privilege that can be taken away if you commit a felony. There is no guarantee that you will maintain a good job, or have a good job, and it is not your right to expect to be taken care of by the Government. Perhaps the Bill of Rights should be replaced with a Bill of Non-Rights that explains what things are not guaranteed to you as a US Citizen. We do have the opportunity to take advantage of these privileges, and to work hard and pursue our dreams, but attaining those dreams is not a right.

John, I want to see something about roadblocks outside of apartment complexes in which people and their cars were searched. And I want to see a link that the Bush administration gave the go ahead for local communities to do this.

And JB2, you present a laundry list, please show me where U.S. citizens have been prevented from peacably assembling because of Bush, where a U.S. citizen was denied a speedy trial (and what is a speedy trial? I mean R Kelly has been a free man for over 4 years making millions while fighting his child sex charge.) What neighbor or U.S. citizen has been denied habeous corpus? Where has the Bush administration obstructed the freedom of the press? And what U.S. citizens have been illegally wiretapped and had their privacy usurped by the Bush administration.
You Loons love to throw out your spittle with anything and everything that would never stand up in a court of law.

And then we have those talking about Republicans retiring in droves. I'm not going to say everything is hunky dory in the Republican party right now, but it seems to me Johanns is leaving to run for the Senate. It's also toward the end of the Bush administration and folks always leave the last year of an administration. It happened under Clinton, Reagan, Johnson, etc. Tony Snow is leaving because he wants to do other things and seemingly make as much money as he can. He is a dying man after all. Rove was with Bush for years (before and during the administration). He was in the White House for seven years. What Clinton operative stayed that long?

Bill T, don't let the door hit your gigantic butt on the way out.

Oh Johnny D - don't you remember during the 2004 election how demonstrators could not assemble in any place except for a fenced in area controlled by the local police? How many people were tossed out of Bush's speeches for wearing a t-shirt that did not praise Georgie as God's gift to us Americans?

How about the time he came to Atlanta to the King Center, and they lined up Atlanta busses so that he did not have to see or hear all the demonstrators there?

And don't forget the marching orders coming out of the White House as to how to keep the anti-Bush groups from even being seen or heard by the boy prince??

And why won't he come out and talk to the American people? When he gave his little pro-surge speech at the White House the other day, he made sure that the only people watching him were his fans. It took the Democrats to make sure that the opposing view of his little adventure in Iraq was told by the ones who were there.

And JB2, you present a laundry list, please show me where U.S. citizens have been prevented from peacably assembling because of Bush

-Republican National Convention...look it up

where a U.S. citizen was denied a speedy trial

-There have been a number of cases of "Extrodinary Rendition" and other similar practices where US Citizens have been held without access to concel or a court

(and what is a speedy trial? I mean R Kelly has been a free man for over 4 years making millions while fighting his child sex charge.)

-Typically one year however it can vary some based on the offence however you are ALWAYS allowed council

What neighbor or U.S. citizen has been denied habeous corpus?

-The rebuplican congress passed a law shortly before the switch over that stripped Habeous Corpus from all non-citizens. This law will probably be seen by the District Courts in the next year.

Where has the Bush administration obstructed the freedom of the press?

-Denied access that the press is legally permitted.

-Publishing fiction as News (specifically ruled on as a violation of the free press when done by the government)

And what U.S. citizens have been illegally wiretapped and had their privacy usurped by the Bush administration.

-Bellsouth just announced a few weeks ago that they were ordered to give up phone records and tap customers phone lines with no warrant, no court review and only after the Democratic Congress came to power was the gag order from the White House over ruled. Shortly afterward all major communication firms made similar announcements.

You Loons love to throw out your spittle with anything and everything that would never stand up in a court of law.

-Everything I have mentioned has already been ruled on BY courts to be violations of the freedoms specifically reserved for the PEOPLE.

..."Oh, for the day when I can leave this godforsaken place.

Posted by: Bill T | September 20, 2007 11:20 AM"...

...I'd be happy to take up a collection for you...how far do you want to go...can you say "Amtrak"...

Forgot to mention:

What neighbor or U.S. citizen has been denied habeous corpus?

-Section 9 of the Constitution deals with Habeous Corpus and the writ specifies Person NOT citizen. Even illegal aliens have the right of habeous corpus

(mind you it won't do them much good since there is just cause to hold them as they are illegal aliens)

Again, JB2, you provide no proof. You are right about the press printing fiction as news. CBS and Dan Blather did it with the fake National Guard memo story. NY Times prints falsehoods day in and day out about the economy, the country, the war on terror, Republicans, Bush. They also printed Jayson Blair's made up stories. There is a laundry list of fiction published and aired by the left-controlled media in this country and basically throughout the world. But the press is freely publishing and airing fiction, not Bush.

..."Forgot to mention:

What neighbor or U.S. citizen has been denied habeous corpus?

-Section 9 of the Constitution deals with Habeous Corpus and the writ specifies Person NOT citizen. Even illegal aliens have the right of habeous corpus

(mind you it won't do them much good since there is just cause to hold them as they are illegal aliens)

Posted by: jb2 | September 20, 2007 1:59 PM"...

...hate to burst your bubble...Habeous Corpus is not a right under the Constitution, its a privledge, (says it right there in the article)...

...privledges can be taken away...rights cannot...

Johnny D:

Tell me what falsehoods the NY Times prints about all the things you said day in and day out. List one.

Now if it were Fox News or the Washington Times or the NY Post you were talking about, that would be true.

Remember, it was the NY Times that was one of the cheerleaders for this idiotic war in Iraq.

However it cannot be Permenently suspended and it can't be suspended for a particular group or person (the next paragraph deffinition of "attainder")

We have the RIGHT to the privildige of Habeus Corpus except for extremly limited accasions (natrual disaster etc).

The use of the word privildige is based off of the English Law. Habeous Corpus was originally reserved for English nobles and was reffered to as an INHERENT privelidge of the nobility.

Since US law is based off of English Common law, this phrasing was maintained to avoid legal confusion while still expanding it to all people. Read the federalist papers...

Also I would point out that ALL the Rights like Voting, Cross state lines, Assemble etc CAN be temporarily suspended for convicted criminals...Just because it can be suspended doesn't mean it isn't a right.

You should research the Bush National Guard piece...

It is absolutly accurate. What was proven false was NOT the content of the story but rather their source. The document they procurred as proof was a fake that said exactly the same thing as the original. It was a brilliant move by Rove (yes there is proof that he did it) to immunize Bush against that story.

You can look up my proof on Fox News. They covered how the US government, through the CIA, hired private PR firms to create short films in the format of a news piece and then distributed them to news agencies as a real piece.

As for the printing of fiction, you didn't read what I wrote...the presenting of fiction as news is ONLY a violation of the press if the government does it. Otherwise it is free speech. Under the constitution, the federal and state governments have no right to free speech, that right is reserved for the people.

So the thrust of your argument has no merit.

However I would like to address your attempt at distraction as well... All news agencies run by human beings make mistakes AND let their personal opinions through on occasion. The real question is how do they treat the information they receive. The so called left wing media is actually extrodinarily fair to both sides of any issue They use proper journalistic practices and principles to prove their stories before they are published.

It isn't the fault of the news agencies that under accepted journalistic methodology the "left" side of the story tends to be more factually accurate and persuasive.

While the vast right wing media are far more like opinion echo chambers. They have almost no checks on the information they publish as news and are proven false more often then they are proven right.

To actually hear "left wing" news you need to listen to Air America Radio and the like.

Now I would like you to put up some facts...what economic etc falsehoods does the NT times publish on a daily basis?