Obama: Apply 'real pressure' to Iran: The Swamp
 
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Posted September 24, 2007 1:34 PM
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by Christi Parsons

Sen. Barack Obama had harsh words for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today, but the Illinois Democrat didn't backtrack from his commitment to meet personally with the leaders of such hostile nations if he is in the White House.

In a written statement he sent to a rally outside the United Nations this afternoon, Obama condemned Iran's "sponsorship of terrorism" in the Middle East and its pursuit of nuclear weapons "in defiance of the international community."

"The terrible atrocities of the Holocaust are historical facts, and their denial is offensive and outrageous," Obama's written remarks say. "We know that the most powerful way to confront the statements of President Ahmadinejad is to shine the light of truth on his hateful lies . . . Let President Ahmadinejad learn, here in America, that we are united in rejecting Iran's support for terrorism, its pursuit of nuclear weapons, and his comments which offend Israel, Jews, and all people of goodwill."

Obama set off a controversy during a Democratic presidential debate a few weeks back, when he criticized the Bush administration for what he said was a lack of diplomacy with hostile nations. He suggested that he would be willing to meet personally with their leaders.

In the same debate, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) said it was "irresponsible" to make such a commitment in advance and without preconditions, and the two presidential candidates have traded exchanges on the topic off and on since.

On Monday, Obama reiterated his call for "direct diplomacy," adding that it should be backed by economic divestment and other, unspecified means of "real pressure."

"It's time to do more than condemn Iran's actions," Obama said in his remarks. "It's time for our own actions to apply real pressure on Iran. We will never waver in the face of President Ahmadinejad's rhetoric. We should never worry that his message will defeat ours. We must unite to make it clear that the future does not belong to hate, it belongs to hope."

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Apply "real pressure".

Such as...?


Barack Obama - that's leadership.


Such as the bill he proposed to make public, the list of all companies that do business in and with Iran.


Barak is going to huff and puff and blow the bad guys away and the polls don't mean anything cuz he's going to win and the wingnuts are afraid.

!AMABOG!


ok, so you'll notice in the picture being circulated that Ahmadinejad is getting out of a BOEING 747 made in the good old U.S.A. Obviously we sell them parts for it. Haliburton was still pumping oil in Iran this year. Makes me think of the words of a wise Republican:
"Is there any man, is there any woman, let me say any child here that does not know that the seed of war in the modern world is industrial and commercial rivalry?" - Woodrow Wilson


"Obama reiterated his call for 'direct diplomacy,' adding that it should be backed by economic divestment and other, unspecified means of 'real pressure.'"

A bill to make public the list of companies that do business in and with Iran speaks to the "economic divestment" part of the foregoing. It tells us nothing about what he means by the other "real pressure". Hence, the use of the word "unspecified".


Obama to apply "Real Pressure"? I have a feeling this guy is all talk. Talk to get him elected. Talk is cheap pal. Either someone kick the Iranians leader's ass or shut up.


And the "real pressure" IS?

So far as I can tell from his rambling comments, the "real pressure" equals more Obama talkie-talk.

Which Obama talkie-talk is, as we know. the magic missing ingredient that can cure the world's ills.

The scary fact is, Obama might actually, seriously, believe what he's saying.


Just when I think the Republican Party can't possibly sink any lower, they fool me again:

"Republicans Hail Ahmadinejad For Gay-Free Iran"
Mon Sep 24, 2007 at 01:09:09 PM PDT

AP -- New York -- Leading Republicans excoriated Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today for what it characterized as threatening statements against Israel, for denying the historical veracity of the Holocaust, and for pursuing nuclear weapons for Iran, but reserved praise for Ahmadinejad's claim that Iran does not have any homosexuals.

"Much as I think the little bugger is a raving lunatic," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, "and as much as I think we need to bomb his country into miniscule, carbonized fragments as soon as humanly possible, it is quite a pleasing revelation to hear that his country has managed to solve the G-A-Y problem."

Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) suggested that the revelation of the absence of homosexuals and homosexuality in Iran presented opportunities for diplomatic solutions with that country.

"I'm certainly no expert on Iranian society or sexuality," Hatch commented, "but clearly we need to better understand what makes them impervious to the gay. Is it something in the water? Is it the fact that neither 'Will and Grace' nor 'Designer's Challenge' have ever aired on their television stations? Are they spanked more or less frequently than Americans? I don't know. The point is that they have much to teach us, and perhaps we should postpone a thunderous cruise missile attack until we have learned all there is to know here."


Comedy Central asks:

What would a diplomatic trip to Iran by the Bush Twins look like?


INT. MEHRABAD INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT - DAY

At Mehrabad, the international airport in Tehran, Iran:

SAMIR BANNOUT, Iranian Secret Service Agent, meets the Bush Twins, JENNA and NOT-JENNA, at the baggage carousel. The Bush Twins are travelling undercover as co-hosts of E! Television's 'Wild On..', filming an episode in Tehran. National Security Advisor STEPHEN HADLEY poses as their Producer on the shoot. Samir greets them warmly.

SAMIR
Miss Jenna, Miss Not-Jenna, I am Samir. I am the Iranian Minister of International Nightlife Relations. We are most grateful that you have decided to take this important step between our two countries.

They look at him blankly.

JENNA
Totally.

NOT-JENNA
Totally totally.

Samir eyes Stephen suspiciously, then smiles with pleasant nonchalance, extending his hand.

SAMIR
I am Samir Bannout.

Stephen extends his hand uneasily.

STEPHEN
I..I'm Homer Simpson. I'm the producer for E! on this segment.

SAMIR
A pleasure to meet you...Homer Simpson.

Samir looks at him in a more-than-slightly intimidating way, then, to Stephen's relief, releases his hand and turns his attention back to the Bush twins.

SAMIR
We feel that the Iranian people, their society and their government have been misportrayed and are as a result not as well-understood by your Western audience as we would like. Hopefully your visit will correct that.

JENNA
We think that's like, so important.

NOT-JENNA
It's pretty much a priority and stuff for us.

Samir stands for uncomfortable moments waiting for them to elaborate. The twins chew gum with bored impatience.

SAMIR
Well, allow me to escort you to your minivan; President Ahmadinejad anticipates your dinner this evening with profound eagerness.

CUT TO:

INT. MINIVAN - MINUTES LATER

The twins and Stephen Hadley sit in the passenger van as it pulls away from the curb.

STEPHEN
My stars, I thought he was...

Jenna SLAPS a hand over his mouth and nods to Not-Jenna, who pulls what appears to be a handheld personal massager out of her purse. She flips it ON and smiles.

CUT TO:

INT. SURVEYLANCE VAN – SIMULTANEOUS

Agents SCREAM and tear off their headphones; we hear loud FEEDBACK coming from their earpieces.

CUT TO:

INT. MINIVAN - CONTINUOUS

NOT-JENNA
Homer Simpson?

JENNA
Hadley, I hope you're not going to be dead weight on this mission the whole time.

STEPHEN
Look, I'm sorry, I got flustered. I'm not a quick-thinking man--and he was beastly.

JENNA
Damn right; he's one of ours. He infiltrated the Iranian Ministry of Information--

NOT-JENNA
(correcting)
Savama.

JENNA
You think this slobberhead knows that? (TO STEPHEN) No offense. Anyway, he's been in place since Grandpa was President.

Stephen motions to the DRIVER.

STEPHEN
What about him?

JENNA
Haji, is that you?

HAJI
Indeed it is, Miss Jenna.

NOT-JENNA
We haven't seen you since, what was it, the Damascus situation?

HAJI
Yes, Miss Not-Jenna. I am honored that you remember. You saved my life and the lives of my men; never have I witnessed such courage and excellence in the field.

JENNA
Now, now; it was a team effort. We never could have rescued you if you didn't fall blindly into the Syrians' trap. Now, can you tell us anything we should know?

HAJI
(solemnly)
They have triggers, Miss Jenna.

NOT-JENNA
I knew it! Krytrons or Spytrons?

STEPHEN
Krytrons?

JENNA
Are you, like, Dumb? These are triggers for nuclear devices. One's bad--and the other's worse.

NOT-JENNA
The Krytron trigger uses a weak beta emitter: nickel-63. It is extremely reliable, but less so for large detonations than the Spytron trigger.

STEPHEN
Is that what we use?

JENNA
Doy! We use plutonium-239 triggers. I can't believe Dad trusts you to walk Barney. (TO HAJI) Well, what's the verdict?

HAJI
Bad news: they have secured the Spytron.

JENNA
Oh my!

STEPHEN
But the UN Inspectors haven't found any weapons labs!

NOT-JENNA
(snorts derisively)
Hear that, Haji? (TO STEPHEN) Those imbeciles couldn't find Waldo in a bin full of Waldo dolls, for heaven's sake.

JENNA
What can you tell us about the Presidential Dinner tonight?

HAJI
Little has been said to distinguish it from any other State dinner.

NOT-JENNA
Well, we'll make sure it will be distinctly memorable for them.

HAJI
(smiling)
I am confident you will, Miss Not-Jenna.

CUT TO:

INT. PRESIDENTIAL PALACE - EVENING

In a dining room appointed in delirious luxury, Jenna and Not-Jenna, along with a nervous-looking Stephen Hadley, sit with Iranian President Ahmadinejad.

JENNA
Oh. My. God. These drinks are so delish! (TO SERVANT STANDING NEARBY) Can you bring us another pitcher, please please please?

The President NODS and the servant is dispatched.

AHMADINEJAD
I believe your visit will mark the beginning of a robust friendship between our two nations. The time has come to put the bad feelings behind us.

NOT-JENNA
(slurring)
Let's be total BFFs!

AHMADINEJAD
B..F..Fs?

JENNA
Best friends forever!

AHMADINEJAD
Ah, yes.

He raises his glass in a toast as the new pitcher is poured.

AHMADINEJAD (cont.)
As you say, to BFFs!


John E,

It's sort of ironic that the guy who thinks 2 X 0 = 1 is making fun of another person's intellgence.


John E,

It's sort of ironic that the guy who thinks 2 X 0 = 1 is making fun of another person's intellgence.

Posted by: Terry | September 24, 2007 7:10 PM

Scary Terry,
You're right I do need to work on my math, so I vow that from now on everytime I hook up with your wife we will spend the first ten minutes on math....and then.


John E,

I'l' pay you $1,000,000 X 0 if you start walking east and don't stop until the your hat floats... Hee hee hee...


Terry,
I hired your wife to help me with "math", thanks buddy :o)


BC and Doogie Zook like to call me a liar. Yet, their mascot, the Demented and Deranged John E. lies about a son in Iraq and lies about him being sent to Iraq. Then he posts a bogus AP story.

Tribune censors, how come the fabricated AP post from John E at 4:28 as well as his nonsense about the Bush daughters got posted here?


Anonymous, I'd actually give John E $100 to keep walking East until his hat floats and then some. That would be the most he ever made in one day too.



Voice of America and Fiasco at Persian Service.
Millions of dollars are spent in Persian Service of Voice of America but the end result is nothing but scandalous way of management and programming.
It is hard to believe but the Persian Service which supposed to be an organization to convey the policy of the U.S. has become a free platform for hard-line terrorist group of communists who attack the United Sates!
I have the documents in writings to prove that these were done with the knowledge of the management.
I used to work there and as I said before, I have all the documents in writings.
The manager is a woman called Sheila Gandji who can not read and write Persian. Therefore, in order to hide this shortcoming from the higher management, she has hired an eighty something man called Kambiz Mahmoudi who has a lengthy background as crook and in charlatanism.
You expect a doctor to be in charge of a medical clinic. You expect an engineer to be in charge of an engineering department. You expect a plumber to fix your plumbing.
So why you expect a person who has no education in Iran or the language of that country should be in charge of publicity, literature or politic for such important position?
Sheila Gandji falsely pretended and presented herself as educated with background in journalism. These are all fabrications. Nobody in Iranian communities inside or outside has any knowledge about her being a journalist then and now.
Her partner, Kambiz Mahmoudi is a hateful and despicable person whose activities as crook are widely known through out Iran. Can't the U.S. government appoint somebody without such shameful background?
Don’t think that this is a personal vendetta.
Let me quote you a view from another media:
"The Iran Steering group concluded that much of the anti-American perspective that is broadcast is the result of decisions made by station managers in Washington D.C. and Prague. Sheila Gandji, the manager of Persian service has faced sharp criticism, particularly for her decision to stop VOA shortwave radio program in July, 2006 in order to focus on television broadcasts, which are more susceptible to censorship, since the government regularly confiscates satellites dishes in order to prevent the infiltration of foreign broadcasts."
This is not the only one. The mismanagement at the Persian Service of Voice of America is the subject of hundreds of sites and articles indicative of disgusts and ridicules in the world.
The bizarre situation at the Persian Service of Voice of America caused even the Republican Senator Coburn to write a long letter to President Bush about the fiasco there.
It is only in America where the government pays to be insulted. Really, why Voice of America is doing this harm to our nation?


Math Whiz,

What I would expect from child.


Dear Christi Parsons,
I am a senior majoring in political science at the University of Southern California. I find many of Barack Obama’s ideas on how to deal with adversarial foreign leaders to be quite astonishing. The occasion of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to Columbia University has been a platform for many of the 2008 presidential candidates to voice their opinions on foreign policy issues. It has turned out to be one of the few topics, where many of the Republican’s and Democrat’s have agreed that it would not be wise for the Iranian President to visit. Even though “Obama condemned Iran's ‘sponsorship of terrorism’ in the Middle East and its pursuit of nuclear weapons…” and also said “... he would not have invited Ahmadinejad to Columbia,” Obama stood his ground Monday on his controversial remarks earlier this year that he would meet with the Iranian President. I can’t help but find it odd that he would agree to have “direct diplomacy” with President Amadinejad, the leader of a state which sponsors terror and is fighting a proxy war against America. There are a number of problems with his “direct diplomacy” approach; first, I think he is overambitious. Sure if the world was a perfect place, and there weren’t insane leaders who wanted to use the press and take advantage of America openness for propaganda purpose, having one-on-one talks with all foreign leaders would be ideal for the President of the United States. But have any other world leaders been successful trying to reach a détente with Iran? Have other leaders received direct and truthful answer’s from Ahmadinejad? Second, “direct diplomacy” by America with somebody like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a dangerous foreign policy. It has the potential to raise the Iranian’s stock in the Middle East. Iran has been a destabilizing influence since the late 1970’s. They are an avowed threat to Israel and other Muslim states. Overall, Senator Obama’s naive approach to foreign policy is really scary!
-LG
You can


"Posted by: John D | September 24, 2007 8:56 PM"

John D, "the Joseph Stalin of Streamwood", I'll give you $100 if you can post PROOF POSITIVE that I said that John Edwards wears $299 suits purchased from Men's Wearhouse, as you claimed in an earlier Swamp post.


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