At least they are having a substantive debate. Good for them. I like Ron Paul and Huckabee, but I think Ron Paul took that match.

Well, a debate at last, I am all for it. Fox News is pathetic though and should not be allowed to sponsor any debates. Rudy says on FOX Paul should debate Gravel, I wanna see a Rudy/Paul debate where constitutionally opposed positions are aired, of course Rudy would run far and fast.

It was a great exchange and stated both sides of the argument clearly. I still have to wonder why Republicans are offering Woodrow Wilson's nation building doctrine as their own. This is a traditional Democrat philosophy. I have to say the Ron Paul best fits a conservative view of this war.

Why is Ron Paul a Republican? He actually makes sense!!!!

Please rephrase your itemizing of Ron Paul as an "isolationist". He's not an isolationist at all, in fact he believes thoroughly in interacting with other nations and trading with them peacefully.

If the opposite of your sense of isolationism is nation-building then the United States is in very big trouble.

Ron Paul is far more intelligent than Rudy Giuliani and would run circles around him. I would love to see a debate between those two.

Correction:

Ron Paul isn't an isolationist. He believes in free trade more then any other candidate.

I agree. Ron Paul took the match up. 75% of America wants us to get out of Iraq. Do they not have honor? Honor was used to spin doctor the mistake that was made by going in.

For god's sake, realize what a mistake we have made by deploying troops to every country in the world. They don't want us.
If we had troops from Mexico all over our country, I would expect our people to carry out car bombings against Mexico. It is impossible to see past the vail of BS the President has put up.
Wake up!!!

Yes, Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee are fighters, both with very good positions from their respective perceptions.

Amazingly, Ron Paul seems to be emerging with the most logical anti-war arguments. Check out this article:
http://spirituallibertarian.blogspot.com/2007/09/ron-paul-most-popular-peace-candidate.html

"The fireworks were set off by Chris Wallace, who asked the isolationist Paul a question that led to Paul delivering an answer that sounded to many in the Republican audience as though he were blaming the U.S. for the 9/11 attacks, a position anathema to many Americans, even beyond the Republican base."

First, non-interventionism is NOT isolationism. Second, where is the part that sounds like Ron Paul "blamed the U.S. for the 9/11 attacks". I don't see that anywhere in Dr. Pauls response. He clearly puts the blame squarly on the shoulders of the neoconservatives and NOT the American people. Guess what, so do the American people!

It this what constitutes journalism nowadays?

Great transcript. My heart's with Ron too, but I know people feel differently. It's wonderful to see an actual debate - you can't have democracy without it.

Huckabee seems well-meaning enough, and he held his own in this match, but Ron Paul won. I also don't like Huckabee's tax record in Arkansas, and his implications that if you support upholding the laws on illegal immigration, you are somehow a "racist." He falls right in line with the Democrat party on that. Also, Dr. Paul seems to have a much better understanding of the separation of church and state and the ideas the United States was founded on. Ron Paul also has considerable knowledge in economics and has been called "The Taxpayers' Best Friend" for many years. Ron Paul was one of only 4 congressman to support Ronald Reagan for president in 1976, as opposed to the affable but centrist Gerald Ford. We're ready for another Ron in the White House. Real conservatives, let's do this thing and put the republica back in Republican. Vote for Ron Paul in the primary.

Honor like pride is only there for those who know how and when to grasp it. We have made mistakes lets grasp at the honor we have left and correct the wrongs vr. dying on the cross of pride it's just window dressing for saving face with the world and that isn't good for America's image. Dr Paul is Right.

Mike Huckabee totally Owned ron paul

I think the title of this article is at best uninformed, and at worst pejorative. Ron Paul is not an isolationist. North Korea is an isolationist country. The distinction between an isolationist and a non-interventionist needs to be made here. Being a non-interventionist means you respect the sovereignty of other nations by not "intervening" in their private affairs. We expect this from any other nation in the world when it comes to our nation, and we should respond in kind to the rest of the world. A non-interventionist nation can participate in free trade, diplomacy, and be very active on the international stage. Please in the future keep this distinction in mind.

Ron Paul was the only one who told it like it is, we are not winning, Sadam is dead, NO WMD, no nuclear bombs, what you have is a country figting what they see as an invasion, hell if we get invaded by china rusia or korea, i will fight too, then I am a terrorits according to the chinese.

Finally a debate instead of sound bites. Hmmm...The Constitution. The Law of The Land. Ron Paul's entire political history is based on doing things in accordance with what and how that enlightened document says things should be done. I only hope and pray that this country will wake up and return to our roots before it is too late. We have allowed the USA to become an imperialist military aggressor and it's about to get worse as we will soon attack Iran. Wake up people.

I thought Ron Paul was the winner, hands down! I am so disappointed in our Propaganda Media not giving Ron Paul his due credit. Everyone I talk to in Florida is very receptive to Ron Paul. Why isn't the media? Propaganda, agenda, that's why. VOTE VOTE VOTE!

Ron Paul is not an isolationist. Isolationists believe that we should insulate ourselves from the world, and sustain the economy merely by our own means of production.

Ron Paul is a non-interventionist free trader. Remember that gentleman, Thomas Jefferson? He advised us that we should conduct commerce with all, and create alliances with none.

It seems given the current state of my party, and the world opinion of the United States, we should heed Jefferson's and Ron Paul's advice.

I have to say it goes to Paul for oration, but Huckabee to content. Anyone who thinks long and hard would realize that pulling out unequivocally means genocide, the resurfacing of underground jihadists, decimation of the police we've been training over there. What would be left of our foreign relations then, and how many new terrorists would that action create?

Yes, I know it has been said, but for a respectable journalist to mix up isolationism with non-interventionalism is disgusting. Every time i see another blatant smear of Ron Paul i am going to donate another $25 to his campaign.

"We should not go to war without a declaration" RONPAUL2008.com

This debate clinched it for me, I'm supporting Ron Paul from now on.

Are you kidding me BSun???!!??? You said in your article, and I quote "The fireworks were set off by Chris Wallace, who asked the isolationist Paul a question that led to Paul delivering an answer that sounded to many in the Republican audience as though he were blaming the U.S. for the 9/11 attacks..." WHAT DEBATE WERE YOU WATCHING... HMMM DIDN'T THAT HAPPEN IN THE LAST DEBATE AGAINST GULIANI!!!! Get your facts right... when did he EVER say the U.S. is to blame for the 9/11 attacks...???!!! That is such propaganda garbage. How about writing a balanced article.

BSun... you've been EXPOSED!

I am old enough to remember viet nam, and Nixon's "Peace with Honor" speeches. It probably cost us 10,000 lives, and made no change in the outcome, and we ended up without honor.

What ever happened to the idea of not spending "good money after Bad ? "

Second, where is the part that sounds like Ron Paul "blamed the U.S. for the 9/11 attacks". I don't see that anywhere in Dr. Pauls response.
Posted by: Jack | September 6, 2007 10:32 AM

Umm, that would come right here, Jack:

REP. PAUL: The fact that we had troops in Saudi Arabia was one of the three reasons given for the attack on 9/11.

He clearly states that he believes al Qaeda when they said that our presence on the Arabian peninsula provoked the 9/11 attacks. So, therefore, Rep. Paul blames the decision to station troops in the Persian Gulf region as a contributing factor for 9/11. If he did not believe this, why does he believe we should pull all troops from Saudi Arabia? I am not saying he is totally wrong. I am saying that you need to read transcripts more closely before making comments like the one above.

The most important reason to vote for Ron Paul is that he is the one candidate who understands the need to eliminate the Federal Reserve. The neo-conservatives are merely the puppets getting us into confrontations around the world - the puppetmasters are the international bankers hidden behind the scenes.

View "Money Masters" on google.com and decide for yourselves.

Rematches are more desired when the match is close. But, Ron Paul won the polls (again) in a landslide.

I watched the debate for about 45 minutes and then turned it off in disgust. After asking Ron Paul one question at the beginning of the debate, virtually all of the questions went to the favorites of Fox News. Gulliani, Romney, McCain and Huckabee were asked three or four questions each for about 30 minutes when they got around to asking Dr. Paul another question. He would do well to request that he be addressed as Doctor rather than Congressman. Doctor has some prestige about it. Congressman has very little. Chris Wallace's voice reeked of his distate for Dr. Paul's position against the Iraq War. Dr. Paul showed some disgust at the proceedings when he answered the question. He should have invited Brownback, Hunter, and (Tommy) Thompson to join him in walking out and made a statement as to how agenda driven and adversarial Fox News is toward his position. He would have won the debate, hands down, if he had. The next time I hear a Fox News newscaster use the term "Fair and Balanced" I may throw up!

I would really, really, *REALLY* like to see a Ron Paul / Mike Huckabee one-on-one debate on this issue.

Attenion old media - here's your chance to make some advertising bucks off of the Ron Paul popularity surge.

I (Ron Paul supporter that I am) think Ron Paul won the intellectual points, but Huckabee won the emotional points. I don't agree with Huck's view, but many in the neocon GOP will lap that up like butter and brown sugar.

Mike Huckabee embarrassed Ron paul and his army of spammers and lunatics cant handle it hahaha

www.mikehuckabee.com

Mike Huckabe 4 President 2008!!

I like Huckabee but he's no Ron Paul!
Ron Paul owned that debate and the text poll results are proof!

Ron Paul is not an isolationist, he is an anti-interventionist!

Your distortions are only going to fool people who did not bother to watch those debate. Those people will not bother to read about the debate the next day either. Ron Paul is not an isolationist nor does he blame America for 911. Do you work for Faux News or something? I think next time Huckleberry will thing twice before calling Dr. Paul out for a one on one.

Ufcama, your comments are typical of those on the Left. You are wrong to assert that the Iraqi people are fighting American troops, they are not. In fact, the Iraqi people are largely cooperating with the American troops. Also, in Anbar province, where there HAD BEEN much trouble with so-called insurgents, part of the recent success there are the Sunnis outing the so-called insurgents and Al Qaeda terrorists to the U.S.

Regarding Ron Paul, not he is not an isolationist in the true sense, but in many respects he is. He wants us out of anywhere in the world. That is just not practical or feasible. Another poster also blamed the "neo-cons" for Sept. 11. How exactly is that correct? And, if that is the belief, then does that make Bill Clinton a "neo-con" too since we were in Saudi Arabia the entire length of time in the 1990s?

Ron Paul was wrong on several fronts in my opinion, or took points of view and took them to an extreme.

Also, another asked why Ron Paul is a Republican. Mr. Paul has been a Republican and a member of the Libertarian Party before rejoining the Republican party again. Libertarians are for very little government, with some advocating doing away with the FBI, CIA and a while bunch of programs and departments near and dear to the liberal Democrats.
While Mr. Paul is not an isolationist in that he is for free trade, he is an isolationist in that he believes our participation in the rest of the world should be very minimal. While that may be great on paper, it is not practical in the world that we live.

It's plain as day;

Pauly = Thoughtful, insightful

I ♆ Huckabee = Simplistic 'base boy'

Of course our troops staying in Saudi contributed to the motives of OsB's reasons for attacking us.

But Paul is doomed. He has dared to shout out the truth in America.

Mr. Huckabee insulted those who have served with honor in Iraq, by implying that they will lose their honor if we continue to do the dishonorable thing as a nation by refusing to admit that we made a huge mistake in starting this war. The character of a soldier's service on an individual level is not affected by the rightness or wrongness of the war he has been called to participate in. The honor of those who served is solely a matter of how they acted from moment to moment at the time of their involvement, and cannot be diminished by any considerations of what course things might take at a later time.

If there is a realization that it was unwise to try and take a particular enemy position, and the effort to do so is abandoned, that does not diminish the sacrifices made by those who may have been injured or killed in that action. High level command decisions like this have to be made all the time, up to and including the kind of decision Reagan made to retreat from Lebanon. In fact, it takes a lot more courage to admit having made such a big mistake, and stop compounding your losses, than it does to continue blindly on just so you don't have to face the charges of "cowardice", "cutting and running", ad nauseam from jingoists like Huckabee.

Ron Paul continues to make fans and speak truth to the masses. All of us who have been disillusioned with politics as usual have found a voice of reason and clarity. It is amazing to see his campaign grow from the ground up. America needs a Ron Paul Revolution.

-B.A. Political Science - International Relations, UCSB

Correction on article: Many were NOT calling McCain the winner. This is false as after debate voting by Fox News confirmed that most of those watching said Ron Paul was the winner.

Kudos to you for recognizing how much impact Ron Paul has on this election. In a time when people complain of crooked politicians, here is one who is principaled, articulate, passionate, and makes sense.

I'm completely amazed that anyone is taking Ron Paul seriously. You could hear the snickers of the other candidates anytime he opened his mouth. He's an embarrasment and should not be on the same stage as the other candiates.

"Rep. Paul blames the decision to station troops in the Persian Gulf region as a contributing factor for 9/11."

He states that because that was one of the reasons given by bin Laden. Quoting bin Laden doesn't mean Ron Paul is blaming the US.

Ron Paul is stating the fact that our foreign policy led to the 911 attacks. Denying the facts and continuing the mistakes will cause more 911 type attacks.

Ignoring the reason bin Laden gave for 911 means the other candidates are not qualified to be president. Facts are facts.

Don't blame the messenger because you don't like the truth.

Ron Paul an "isolationist"? Ha...political hackery.

Ron Paul won this one with his facts, brains, and his trustworthiness.....Huckabee "seemed" very sincere in throwing the word "honor" around. Shakespeare once said, "words, words, words!" The word honor means the evaluation of a persons TRUSTWORTHINESS, and FAIRNESS. Where is the HONOR for the American men and women soldiers, and the majority of the American people who really see that this is an unjust war, and want out? Ron Paul has TRUE HONOR for the American people!

I see that most of Ron Paul's 50 supporters have computers and are once again spamming this comments section.

He has every right to run and I hope he does. And after he gets his 1% of the vote, he will return to TX.

Well, MD, I have to agree. Ron Paul, the one lone principled contender, does not really seem to belong on the same stage with a bunch of jingoistic vote-whores. And if he embarrasses you, then well you should be embarrassed, considering the company you prefer to keep.

For me the most telling moment of the evening was when boos could be heard directed at Dr. Paul after stating the following:"No, I am saying we should take our marching orders from the Constitution."

The fact that Americans would boo the man after making this wonderful response to a very loaded and inflamatory question is very disturbing to me. Americans seem to be in need of a few lessons on Constitutional liberty and I see no one more qualified for this task than the good Dr.

Ron stated facts, Huckabee cited his mother.

Richard Brodie,

Good comment. "Jingoistic vote-whores". I'm gonna remember that one. We are seeing alot of that.

I prefer humility over grandstanding, right over wrong, Paul over Huckabee. May true patriots stand-up for what is right, which at times means admitting wrong and stepping aside. May God bless Ron Paul, America, and the world our power-play policies have damaged.

The brainwashed corporate robot brained warlovers vs The free thinking independent minded humanistic peace lovers. This is fun. Go Dr. Paul

I (a Ron Paul Supporter) agree with ron, (duh), but, it is possible, I've found, for two opposing points of view to be correct; Ron Paul is right in the fact that we should never have gone into Iraq or Saudi Arabia. Mike Huckabee is right (I beleive) that even though we shouldn't have gone in in the first place, we're there now, and simply leaving would kinda screw things up a little; we did break it, and even though I agree with Ron Paul's Non-Interventionalist foriegn policy, I'm starting to agree that leaving prematurely would inadvertantly hurt a whole bunch of Iraqi's that essentially bet their lives to support our presence there. What to do? I'll still vote for Ron because Romney's a flip-flopper, Guliani repulses me, and McCain, well, I could have a beer with McCain, I just can't vote for him.

For the last time... Ron Paul is NOT an isolationist! He is a NON-INTERVENTIONIST!

There is a BIIIIIIIIIG difference. One wants shut borders and high tariffs or no trade and total self-sufficiency...the latter wants free, non-tariff trade and a defensive military that does not INTERVENE in the sovereign activities of other nations.

It's gotten to the point where I can almost point out the Ron Paul haters or at least those who are still ignorant to what he really stands for by their insistence on the misapplication of the term "isolationist". Get it right next time.

Ron Paul kicked butt, I'll bet the Nascar Party won't even let him speak at their convention in Minneapolis because the truth scares the Wingnuts.

Furthermore, why are you including the "applause and cheers" indicators in your transcript for Huckabee, but only do the same for Paul when his responses included both "cheers and boos"?

He got a pretty loud cheer after his final remark and was clearly the man who had done so by not reverting to rhetorical tactics and pseudo-patriotic grandstanding about vague concepts of "honor" in the face of massive wrong.

I encourage people to watch the debate for themselves to see what really happened. At this point, you can find it on YouTube or elsewhere.

For me the most telling moment of the evening was when boos could be heard directed at Dr. Paul after stating the following:"No, I am saying we should take our marching orders from the Constitution."

- Absolutely sickening how constitutionally illiterate the American people are. They can't tell u a thing about the bill of rights but they sure as hell have an opinion on invading a country like Iraq, which they probably couldn't even locate on a map. We're dealing with pure ignorance of what America is really about. Most people believe America is a "democracy" for goodness sake. (shakin' my head)

Maybe Ron Paul should debate the field. Naw, that still wouldn't be fair, what with his Constitutional logic. I can't wait for him to tie into Crown Princess Hillary. She will be dead meat.

John D, you speak of "Iraqi's" as though they were a monolithic block of people with one mind and one interest in the outcome, there is a broad diversity of cultural and political factions, basically segmented into Sunni (the minority once represented by Sadaam Hussein), the Shia (the once repressed majority) and the Kurds (who are happily running what amounts to their own country in the north). The Sunni's and Shitte's are going to be at each others throats for generations, just as they have been for fourteen hundred years. This generic label of Al Queda is just that, a label intended to homogenize any kind of radicalized Islamic violence in the minds of the American people to associate this struggle with the 9/11 attacks and it's complete hogwash. We are mediating a civil war here and there's no use in pouring anymore lives or dollars into it.

Every chance Ron Paul has to set the Iraq debate in the larger context of overall foreign policy he will suffocate his opponent. None of them can breath the air at that altitude.
Re: Huckabee vs Paul - this should be organized by the respective campaign staffs with distribution by Youtube. MSM and 20th century foreign policy get to share a chapter in the history books.

REP. PAUL: The people who say there will be a bloodbath are the ones who said it would be a cakewalk, it would be slam dunk, and that it would be paid for by oil. Why believe them? They've been wrong on everything they've said.

The truth hurts doesn't it John D and Bruce. Then again you guys are so brainwashed that no amount of reason can penetrate the Kool-Aid induced haze that blinds you. Ron Paul makes a great deal of sense which is why republicans won't vote for him. What a shame. Republicans reclaim your party. Don't let neo-con swindlers hijack conservatism and it's principles. John D your heros have failed you and brought shame upon the United States of America!!!

FOX News made another concerted effort to discredit and embarass Ron Paul. He handled himself pretty well in spite of this.

Of course, to anyone that has studied history, it is obvious that Paul is correct and the rest of the Republican contenders are rabid militarists.

After seeing last night's debate, I immediately donated to Paul's campaign. The Republican party and this country need Ron Paul to win the nomination.

"take our marching orders from the Constitution." was for sure one of the best lines of the night.

Huckabee responded to Ron Paul's tunnel-vision kindly and admirably.

Ron Paul won the debate hands down, just like previous debates. He's the voice of reason among the Republican candidates and he has a groundswell of support from the people.

I really wish the media would give him more even-handed coverage and stop downplaying his popularity with the people!

Ron Paul is great for keeping the other Republicans on their toes. Thanks to his remarkably sensible (and controversial) views, the Republican debates are worth watching. Without him, I wouldn't bother.

I think Huckabee is our best response to what the Democrats have to offer AND I think Huckabee represents best what Republicans want to offer AND what the American people want offered.

Huckabee's tax record in Arkansas is really the only weak point, and criticism of his record here is only successful on the surface. Many of the tax increases in Arkansas were either due to court orders (mandatory increase in educational spending in a state with very limited resources to begin with) and one in particular was supported by 85% of Arkansas' voters AT THE POLLS.

Huckabee is very conservative on social issues. That's the main place I want a rightwinger. Everywhere else, Huckabee is "moderate" in philosophy which simply means he's open-minded enough to do what works rather than stick to a party's age old line on something that maintains the status quo.

R. Paul was so adamant about our representative government correcting mistakes of the executive branch, but really this is what Huckabee would allow to happen. As a moderate, Huckabee has to believe strongly in representative government, because the people's voice is a big factor of input into a moderate's decision making (unless you want a lazy moderate who ends up not really accomplishing anything). The point Huckabee was making in the debate was that as a leader, he understands "the buck stops here." With respect to that authority, he would take great care to avoid mistakes. However as Ryan Cowles, points out Huckabee also understands that there are consequences of leaving a mistake "unfixed" if we pretend it didn't happen, and simply walking out of the store than there will be if we stay in the store and fix it as good as we can before we tell the owner of the store. "Hey, I'm about to leave. You take care of the rest."

That was quite a dust-up between Paul and Huckabee, and I believe it made both of them stronger. Both showed some passion for their positions and neither sounded "fake" or "canned" at all.
I'd really like to see a "cage match" debate between Guliani and Paul with no moderation, just let them go head-to-head and argue their positions before the people. Then we will see who comes out on top of a good old fashioned bare-knuckles debate.

I consider myself a hard left democrat... but when Ron Paul told the truth.... that a small group of fascist "NeoCons" had hijacked the Republican Party and THEY and their narcissistic greed and hubris were responsible for the invasion, deaths, mass murder of hundreds of thousands of innocents.... I thought, Finally, a true, honest genuine conservative....

The response of FOX news to Paul reveals (again) they are a NeoCon propaganda machine... not a news organization

But the stock market is booming--if you have enough tax cuts to afford to invest... and are invested in defense contractors....
It's not about "national unity; or that there is even a hope of leaving with honor after making a horrific sociopathic level of mistake --it's about looting the country, and eroding the constitution at home....

Mussolini defined Fascism as the use of the military power of the state for the benefit of private corporations.... Ron Paul was the only non-fascist on that stage.

Since when has the Constitution taken a back seat to running this country?

Ron Paul makes perfect sense.

How can you have a war on terror with no limits without a decleration of War from Congress?

The People fighting swear to protect the Constitution
from all threats as do our representatives.

So why are they abandoning it?

If they like this war so much let them go over and fight it for what honor they feel they need to preserve--not our young kids following orders.

Like Viet Nam this war is about MONEY--Not honor--and not America security.

Security is when you have control of your own boarders--not other countries boarders!

Conspiracy seems to flow from the Presidents mouth at every opertunity--and goes against the facts.

While we fight all over the world--little attention is being given the takeover of our country through Agreements behind closed doors. NAFTA, and the SSP to turn us into another part of the World Order without a vote.

DR. Paul is the only candidate to offer a true resolution to this. Without
the ability to make money out of thin air through the Federal Reserve they would not have power over our government.

The Ron Paul Revolution has just begun. Let's take our country back!!!

P.S. Deport hillbilly Huckabee back to Arkansas or wherever he's from.

Only in the GOP can you be free to be you. Ron Paul is a libertarian whack job but, he could freely say he wanted out of Iraq.
When the Democrats have a debate they are controlled by leftist kooks like MoveOn.org, People for the American Way, George Soros etc.The Democrat Party owns defeat in Iraq they pretend to support the troops but, that's just rhetoric. When they debate on CNN, the Clinton News Network,they must say defeat in Iraq cut and run.
Republicans don't play stupid games and we debate everywhere the Dems hide their true feelings with political correctness. Jerry White, Springfield, IL

John Galt:
I too am old enough to remember "Peace with Honor". To my fourteen-year-old ears, that sounded so noble. Now, it just sounds sad and pathetic. Someone has said, "Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it". Have we learned nothing from our Vietnam experience?

Ron Paul absolutely speaks the truth, and he has the facts.

If I were to have a problem with a my neighbor and ask him to keep his dog out of my yard. After numerous attempts to have him get his dog out of my yard, I might have to resort to kicking his dog physically out of my yard. How ignorant would he be to say "I don't think he's upset with me over the dog...it's just he's jealous of my BMW and success".

That is essentially what the field is saying. Ron Paul is saying...they say they are mad at us because we have our police force all over the world, and in particular in Saudi Arabia.

Why would we not listen to the list that our enemy compiles.

By the way, we are dealing with terrorists that we used to fund and train ourselves....something else that Ron Paul and the constitution are staunchly against.

Go Ron.....save us from those who would further expand our troops around the world, while we claim we can't secure our own border.

Your reporting stinks. Ron Paul is not isolationist. Ron Paul is for "commerce with all nations, alliance with none". Shame on you for not even understanding Ron Paul's foreign policy but reporting on it.

As a life long Democrat who supports Ron Paul for his positions on the war, taxes, Federal Reserve, and avoidance of meddling overseas, he won the exchange with the so called reporter and with his opponent Mr. Huckabee.
When politicians talk of honor, I am reminded of Mark Antony's speech, "...So are they all honorable men..."
Bipartisanship may be the worst thing that ever happened in foreign policy. As mistakes can never be rectified or stopped.

Go Ron Paul. Why is it so hard for the Pro-War candidates to grasp that the U.S. has lost and can never win the Iraq war? Isn't it interesting that Ron Paul has received the most donations of any of the candidates from active service men and women. They clearly want to come home too!!!

Bruce posted that Ron Paul has only 50 spammers supporting him.

hmmmm.

Bruce if 75% of Americans want us out of Iraq that would go to logic that 55-60% are Republicans. The math doesn't work any other way.

Who is that 55-60%'s voice on the Republican ticket?

The rigged polls and the MSM want status quo. America kicked the Republicans out of the majority in 2006 because of Iraq. The Democrats have not supported that mandate.

The truth is Dr. Paul has a lot more support than you give him credit for.

Those who imagine in their terrified isolationism that the overwhelming support for Ron Paul unseen by the pollsters is simply a few hackers in their basement are destined to lose all credibility. The day is quickly approaching when much of the media will discover it sold its credibility for a few more ad dollars supporting a criminal elite who launched an illegal invasion.

Ron Paul rEVOLution

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.deaths/

words such as bloodbath are tossed around by folks who know not what 650,000+ deaths feels like in the context of their own culture, community, and lives. stop pretending to speak for sovereignty and actually act upon it.

I thought that Huckabee scored high points with conservatives by both reminding us of McCain's service and then systematically dismantling Ron Paul's narrow view of the constitution.

This was not Huckabee's best debate showing, but it certainly set a whole new low for Ron Paul.

I am a lifelong Republican who voted for Bush for Texas governor and in 2000 for president. I voted against him in 2004 and will likely never vote Republican again if Ron Paul does not get the nomination in 2008. The snickers from the other candidates while Dr. Paul was discussing serious issues like war, torture, civil liberties, habeas corpus, and shrinking a bloated and nearly bankrupt government show me that none of them belong to the Republican party I always thought I was voting for. Also, in a sense I agree with Huckabee's talk about honor, but he needs to realize that the neocons already lost America's honor when they launched an unjust, illegal, and immoral invasion that had nothing to do with defending American freedoms.

Frank James:
You're misinformed, illiterate, unfit to do any journalist work and a puppet. Just get out and get another job. Shame on you!

He's definitely not an isolationist

GO Ron Paul Go 2008

Ron Paul believes that Muslim terrorists should dictate US foreign policy. Most Americans think otherwise.

Paul cited the US's stationing troops in Saudi Arabia as something he wouldn't have done, for fear of inciting the terrorists. Most Americans think the elected government of the US should decide where our troops are stationed.

The Muslim mobs that stage a rent-a-riot every time somebody publishes an internet cartoon they don't like, the fatwa-issuing clerics and their murderous disciples who've forced authors into hiding, are the enemies of freedom. They can be ignored, resisted, or surrendered to. Ron Paul prefers the latter. Most sensible people don't.

Ron Paul was the only one digging into the issues. Huckibee had to come up with some totally unrelated analogy about his mother to even have something to say.

Ron Paul speaks the truth to those who attempted to steal and burn up someone else's honor as their shield.

Dr. Ron Paul by far makes the most sense.

Ron Paul is our only hope. His message is simple - follow the constitution and protect individual liberties. He slapped down Giuliani in another debate and last night it was Huckabee's turn. When will they learn? The Fox News poll results were clear - Ron Paul was the winner. People who are familiar with Ron Paul like him. There is a massive movement toward constitutional government and Ron Paul is awakening that movement right now. Join your local Meetup group and take some control of your life. Freedom is Popular!

"decimation of the police we've been training over there."

Just this morning I heard General Petraeus say on the radio that the entire police force in Iraq should be dismantled and rebuilt from the ground up because it has been infiltrated by sectarian militias, so this argument falls flat. Our boys are fighting and dying to defend the borders of a nation arbitrarily carved onto the world map by Britain over 50 years ago. Why? This is hubris. And Huckabee's invocation of honor rings hollow. What about the "Lives, Fortunes and Sacred Honor" that the founders of this country risked in order to bring our nation into being? Are we going to throw away their sacrifice and principles, discard the Declaration of Independence and bury the Constitution, then cede our sovereignty to the U.N. and a North American Union for purposes of political expediency? Huckabee, if you pick our pockets and sacrifice our Constitution on the altar of an unjust foreign war, where's the "honor" in that? Is that "more important than the Republican Party"? The tunnel vision belongs to those mindlessly cheerleading for this war. We either live by Constitutional law or we are not a free people.

the real terrorists are in washington and tel aviv they have murdered over a million people in iraq wake up america

This YouTube clip says it all about Fox:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUxQadgSkoA

Enjoy

Captain UnAmerica, no, 650,000 Iraqis have not been killed since we invaded that country. Earlier this year the UN claimed about 30,000 Iraqi were killed in 2006, which was stated to be the most in one year since 2003. So, if we go with the highest number of 30,000 and multiply it by 4 years, we come to 120,000. In reality, the actual number is more like 80,000.
Compare that to the apprcximate 1 million Saddam Hussein did kill in his country alone.

It's great to see that there is a Republican who still believes in the US Constitution and stands for something besides corruption and maximizing his campaign contributions.

Bruce you are dumb as dirt. Why are in the Saudi Arabia anyway. One word oil. Our US foreign policy has affect cause the death of many people. If our enemy told us the reason why they hate should we not listen and understand why?.

Dr. Ron Paul, Veitnam Vet,
(flight surgeon) consistant voting record, Christian, anti abortion, constitutionist, tells the truth, more freedom less goverment, gaurd our own borders, less taxes, right to bear arms, oh what a scary man !

"Most Americans think the elected government of the US should decide where our troops are stationed."

This might be the problem. Perhaps if Iraqis had a choice of whether our troops would be stationed there or not, there would be much less bloodshed.

Ron Paul might not have said it as well, but he was the only one making sense when you think about it.

We will lose to Hillary honorably!

Is this what passes for the Republican battle cry these days?

It's interesting that Sean Hannity kept saying the Paul supporters were resending text votes for the winner of the debate.... I tried to vote twice, and the system in place would not count my second vote! I got an email saying you can only vote once. It's despicable that the democrats and their media weapon (abc cbs msnbc) and the rest of their party embrace someone/something new (Barack Obama) while conservatives snuff their innovation out with the lies and corruption that we accuse the left of doing.

Bruce says: "The Muslim mobs can be ignored, resisted, or surrendered to. Ron Paul prefers the latter."

Hmmmm.... let's just check the facts.

The neo-cons say that we were attacked because of our freedom. They then go on an unConstitutional rampage and practically gut the Bill of Rights. They next refuse the Taliban's offer to turn over Osama to the world court for trial. (Remember that?) They then launch an undeclared war against Afghanistan while giving Osama time to escape to Pakistan. For a grand slam they next attack Iraq, fighting to overthrow the one country in the Middle East that Osama had declared top of his list to be overthrown because of its secular government.

All these statements are easily verufied. Google them now if you weren't paying attention then.

And you accuse Ron Paul of surrendering to terrorists?! Good God! This so-called War On Terror is now five years old and the neo-cons have not even gotten around to securing our borders!

Big FYI: Paul isn't an isolationist, as he wants to communicate and trade with every country in the world. His foreign policy stance is neutrality, which was advised very strongly by the writers of the Constitution.

In addition to Paul creaming Huckabee in that exchange, he later creamed Sean Hannity when discussing history, which Hannity apparently skipped in high school.

But the worst part was Fox News keeping Rudy's mic open when Paul spoke. Is Rudy in 9th grade? What a pathetic loser.

I see no honor in supporting a war which was sold to the american people as lies. Mike, Do you really know what honor is? Honor is supporting issues which are correct and the Iraq was began as a lie. The bible states lies are a foundation for sand.

Ron Paul won the debate and the exchange with Huckabee. Huckabee had nothing to offer but a lame analogy "break it you bought it" and pure pandering. Ron Paul's argument was, as usual, full of substance and good sense. Ron Paul also showed more guts than the rest of them put together, including John McCain.

JB, Wake up you idiot. Ron Paul did not blame the American people. He is putting the blame on the politicians in Washington who decided to mess around in the Middle East. NOT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES! You need to read closer before you defecate out of your mouth!

Ron Paul is NOT an isolationist. Please look up isolationism in a dictionary. Dr. Paul is about as far away as you can get from being an isolationist.