by John McCormick
A suburban Chicago delegate backing Sen. Barack Obama is now expected to keep her spot at this summer's Democratic National Convention, reversing an outcome the Illinois Democrat's campaign had reported a day earlier.
“Ms. Ramirez-Sliwinski is an elected delegate and we respect her decision to represent the campaign at the convention," Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said in a statement.
On Tuesday, LaBolt had said the trustee in suburban Carpentersville had decided to step down after she used the word "monkeys" to describe two African American children.
“It is clear that the incident was a misunderstanding,” LaBolt said.
As an elected delegate, Ramirez-Sliwinski's decision is her own. Obama's campaign had been told on Monday that she planned to step down.
Whether Ramirez-Sliwinski stays or goes, it will likely have zero impact on Obama's delegate count because another one of his supporters would almost certainly replace her.
Police issued Ramirez-Sliwinski a $75 disorderly conduct ticket after her neighbors complained to police about the comment. She told the Tribune the word wasn't meant racially and she will fight the ticket.
A story in Tuesday's Tribune about the case is linked here.





Comments
Pathetic. Someone who calls black children monkeys is allowed to keep her post. Obama's hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Posted by: Jeff | April 9, 2008 2:08 PM
Pathetic. Someone who calls black children monkeys is allowed to keep her post. Obama's hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Posted by: Jeff | April 9, 2008 2:08 PM
Yeah Jeff,
It's almost as pathetic as the McCain supporter who called Obama the "Tiger Woods candidate" in front of a big crowd (including McCain) yesterday.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/09/countdown-mccain-supporter-disparages-obama-by-likening-him-to-tiger-woods/
Posted by: John E | April 9, 2008 2:35 PM
Oh please, a lot of people call kids little monkeys. People need to relax and stop being so overly sensitive and PC. It's ruining our country. I call my Siamese a 'monkey'. Should he call the ASPCA on me for racism?
Posted by: Mtichell | April 9, 2008 2:36 PM
According to the linked Trib story, the kids were climbing up a tree...like...well, monkeys. I don't think calling them little monkeys in this context is a racial remark.
Posted by: Lise | April 9, 2008 2:40 PM
To the poster "Jeff" above, the actual story did not quote her as having called the children monkeys. The two black children were climbing a tree and she told the parent who were letting them climb and damage the tree that the parent should not let their kids climb the tree "like monkeys". Stories like this always brings on knee jerk reactions and it's sad that it has to turn racial. It does not help the discussion of racism and only creates more animosity.
Posted by: Pete | April 9, 2008 2:44 PM
Obama's hypocrisy knows no bounds?
__________________________
You must be kidding me. Right?
....Obviously Obama should know what every delegate is doing at every hour of the day. Please!
The term "monkey' has been used to describe children climbing on things for YEARS.
Don't children climb on "Monkey Bars" on playgounds and parks? Where's the "hue and cry" for that piece of lexicon?
Interesting to note that the parent who was "offended" has vowed to involve the Rainbow PUSH Coalition if Ramirez-Sliwinski challenges the ticket.
Here is the link:
http://dailyherald.com/story/?id=168584
I'll let you mull that over.
Posted by: gangwise | April 9, 2008 2:46 PM
Seriously? Who doesn't call ANY kids monkeys? Tempest in a teapot, this one.
Posted by: Erica | April 9, 2008 2:48 PM
Jeff, you're obviously unacquainted with the Curious George books. 'Monkeys' is what lots of grandparents and parents call their kids when they're at that stage you have to watch them every minute. Please stop trying to spin everything into an anti-Obama rant. It's a beautiful day - you should be outside playing in the sunshine.
Posted by: Tom J | April 9, 2008 2:52 PM
This brief article does not fully represent the entire situation. Ramirez-Sliwinski was making a reference to the kids' behavior - the were literally hanging from her tree - and not, in my opinion, making a racial slur. It seems like she realized her poor choice of words immediately and apologized. This has been blown way out of proportion. It's ridiculous that she was issued a citation.
Posted by: John | April 9, 2008 2:52 PM
What is pathetic is the action of the "African American" mother who over reacted, yes, that's right. She took it over board. I say to her, get a LIFE. Let's pass legislation to change the name, "monkey bars" so no one will ever hear the name again....NOT!
Posted by: Moi | April 9, 2008 2:54 PM
What is pathetic is the action of the "African American" mother who over reacted, yes, that's right. She took it over board. I say to her, get a LIFE. Let's pass legislation to change the name, "monkey bars" so no one will ever hear the name again....NOT!
Posted by: Moi | April 9, 2008 2:54 PM
My question is, was it wrong because it was African-American children? What if it had been Hispanic children or white children playing and swinging around in the branches of a tree or even a swingset? I have heard parents of all races make comments to their children to behave/calm down and stop acting like monkies.
As an African-American, and more importantly as a human being, I think racism is disgusting and should never be tolerated. But at the same time, I wonder if we as a group (humans; be we black, white, hispanic, asian, or other) have become overzealous and use cries of racism not to help stamp out true racism but instead to either garner attention or to further our own causes.
Posted by: Michael | April 9, 2008 2:56 PM
So what! My wife calls our daughter "monkey" all the time. It is not racial. Get over it... In no way should she be crucified for something so meaningless.
Posted by: k | April 9, 2008 2:58 PM
Jeff, you only sound stupid when you make a comment on part of the story, and how this even associated with Obama?
The lady wasn't being racist, it was just the neighbor being over sensitive, which was caused my tension between the two neighbors prior to this incident.
I am white and when I was a kid I had adults say:
"Stop monkey'ing around and get to your homework."
..or..."stop monkey'ing around in the tree before you get hurt."
...or..."you must be part monkey because you love climbing around on things."
So were those adults being racist? NO! Open your eyes pal.
Posted by: Doug | April 9, 2008 2:59 PM
She was calling CHILDREN climbing in trees monkeys - they just happened to be black. I'm sure, had they been white, she would have called them monkeys, as well. I have called my children and now grandchildren monkeys, because they too are climbers and they are white. Some of us are so focused on the race issue, that no matter how innocent the comment, we can make it ugly. What a shame!
Posted by: Barbara Wroblewski | April 9, 2008 3:01 PM
I remember when I was a kid, I liked to climb trees. My mom called me a "Monkey" all of the time, and I'm White. I think it's time for the folks in this country to stop being so oversensitive, and learn to take words in CONTEXT, rather than immediately jump on the "racism" bandwagon. It's ridiculous. Mr Obama is no more of a hypocrite than the stuffed suits in office now that made the defunct promises that got them elected. If anything, he's more honest, and he's got my vote.
Posted by: Bruce | April 9, 2008 3:02 PM
she didnt CALL them monkeys, she said they LOOKED like monkeys...
big difference..
Quit your whining
Posted by: MIke | April 9, 2008 3:02 PM
McCain has no business being a US Senator let alone a Presidential candidate.
This is Pathetic!
"Report: McCain's Profane Tirade At His Wife"
John McCain's temper is well documented. He's called opponents and colleagues "s-heads," "a-holes" and in at least one case "a f-ing jerk."...
Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt."
McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/report-mccains-profane-ti_n_95429.html
Posted by: John E | April 9, 2008 3:06 PM
I am happy that she did not quit. But Sliwinski should have apologized to that family if they were offended (and they clearly were - enough to call the authorities). Its not about intent, but actual cause. Its up to the family and children to decide of they were offended.
Its shallow to feel like you are above apologizing, or you should only apologize if YOU feel you were wrong. People have lost the capacity to put themselves in another's shoes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with protesting that your children not be called monkees, especially if they are black. And it should be handled amongst PARENTS and GROWNUPS, but when there is resistance to apologize and comply, then the authorities MUST be brought in. Especially where there is a history of bad blood. I have no problems with you making an unintended mistake. I have a problem with you NOT ACKNOWLEDGING IT. And then getting downright nasty about it, and unwilling to apologize. And that is the nuts and bolts of race-relations in America.
Posted by: Keith Lifetime Southsider | April 9, 2008 3:06 PM
This outcome and the entire Black community postion about race is what I call 'selective idealism'. Only when it suits their agenda do they go after alleged racial slurs. If this were Imus; believe you me, there would be no backtracking and whimping out saying it was all a 'big misunderstanding'. It is no small wonder those that whine about racism 24 hours a day are largely ignored.
Posted by: TheRockofAges | April 9, 2008 3:07 PM
she did not call them monkeys only refered to like monkeys. Could have been any color. People need to get a life.
Posted by: manny | April 9, 2008 3:08 PM
This outcome and the entire Black community postion about race is what I call 'selective idealism'. Only when it suits their agenda do they go after alleged racial slurs. If this were Imus; believe you me, there would be no backtracking and whimping out saying it was all a 'big misunderstanding'. It is no small wonder those that whine about racism 24 hours a day are largely ignored.
Posted by: TheRockofAges | April 9, 2008 3:08 PM
What else is she supposed to call a couple of children swinging from a tree? Would you be happier if she called them "squirrels"? I understand the term is occasionally used racially, but this goes beyond good sense.
Posted by: Lance | April 9, 2008 3:11 PM
Pathetic? She called two kids playing in a tree "monkeys". It is a big stink about nothing.
Posted by: Mike | April 9, 2008 3:12 PM
Jeff,
If you read the whole story, the lady told the kids climbing a tree to stop acting like monkeys and come down. Why they didn't include that part in this blog is beyond me. It shouldn't even be news, sounds like a spat between neighbors.
Posted by: sara | April 9, 2008 3:12 PM
Jeff,
adults have always referred to children climbing in trees as monkeys. There is nothing racist at all about the characterization.
Meanwhile, black children are much more likely to live in poverty than white children. That's racism. Let's do something about really-existing racism instead of getting upset over imagined racism.
Posted by: Andrew Austin | April 9, 2008 3:15 PM
Aren't all children, especially those five and younger, "monkeys"?
While many of us understand the years of hurt that many blacks have had their family members (most learn of it by family stories), at some point black folks are going to have to move on (ie MoveOn.org). Gays and Hispanics feel that Blacks have had their time in the spotlight and it is now time for other groups to be dealt with. If Blacks have not progressed then may be it is that they have wasted their opportunities.
Posted by: Omega | April 9, 2008 3:17 PM
I love how the fact that the women had used the comment in a warning to the other mother that her kids were playing dangerously high up in a TREE is left out of this article. Guess it makes it less "newsworthy".
Posted by: Dave | April 9, 2008 3:18 PM
That Jeff is a piece of work. There is a gang of these posters too. Its funny...they always seem to get the first post. Wonder how that works?
Posted by: Keith Lifetime Southsider | April 9, 2008 3:19 PM
What's ridiculous is that the lady got a 75$ fine for saying this.
What kind of state is this... where you get fined for speaking "improper" words?
This is terrible. Every one of those people that made this law in that township should be jailed for treason against the US Constitution.... the part in there, oh I can't remember where... something about freedom of speech or something.
TERRIBLE that this woman, any woman can be fined like that. Fight it will all your power!
Posted by: Darryn | April 9, 2008 3:23 PM
This situation turned out exactly how it should have. It shouldn't have been an issue in the first place! I call my nieces and nephews monkeys all the time when they are jumping around and climbing trees - it doesn't matter what color they are. Monkeys jump and swing around in trees, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE.
Posted by: Therese | April 9, 2008 3:27 PM
Jeff aside, the First Amendment apparently does not apply in Carpentersville if you can get a ticket for this.
Posted by: jack | April 9, 2008 3:30 PM
As I indicated, this was a borderline call. It's all about context. Only the participants involved truly know the context in which the comment was made.
Posted by: D Chicago | April 9, 2008 3:38 PM
"Pathetic. Someone who calls black children monkeys is allowed to keep her post. Obama's hypocrisy knows no bounds."
Snap ot of it! She called her own grandchildren "monkeys". There was NOTHING racist about the remark - unlike obama calling his own grandmother a "typical white woman".
Posted by: BDD | April 9, 2008 3:43 PM
Jeff is a "jerk" and so is the official who issued this lady a "$75 ticket?". Please, someone followup on this lady's success in quashing this absolutely stupid mess, and be sure it hits the national news!!! Grow up America! I can't believe I am hearing such nonsense from supposedly civilised grown up people!
Posted by: Norman | April 9, 2008 3:45 PM
Jeff is a "jerk" and so is the official who issued this lady a "$75 ticket?". Please, someone followup on this lady's success in quashing this absolutely stupid mess, and be sure it hits the national news!!! Grow up America! I can't believe I am hearing such nonsense from supposedly civilised grown up people!
Posted by: Norman | April 9, 2008 3:47 PM
Another one of Obama's ooops that are getting washed over the dam. He just couldn't bear to lose one of his supers. Poor baby!!!! However, that probably was one of the fastest turn arounds I've seen for obama so far.
Posted by: RFB | April 9, 2008 3:51 PM
Andrew, speaking as an adult I have NEVER referred to children climbing in trees and monkeys and since I have half a brain, unlike you and Ramirez-Sliwinski, I would NEVER refer to black children as "monkeys."
Just because you try to justify something by saying it's "always happened" doesn't necessarily make it so you sheep. The way you people will bend over backward to help anyone supporting Obama is priceless.
Posted by: Jeff | April 9, 2008 4:00 PM
Isn't it odd that a woman can tell her neighborhood kids that they are climbing trees like monkeys and an Illinois Representative can tell an atheist he has no right to speak and it is dangerous for children to even know his philosophy exists and the police ticket the woman in the first incident and no one does anything to censure the woman in the second one?
Posted by: Puzzled | April 9, 2008 4:01 PM
Obama was going to bring the country together right..?? Whites and blacks, republicans and democrats....what a joke....If he only knew how polarizing his campaign has been
Posted by: Karl | April 9, 2008 4:01 PM
I guess I better stop calling my youngest WHITE daughter a monkey when she's climbing all over the furniture and hanging upside down.
Posted by: Dad | April 9, 2008 4:01 PM
Puhlzzz. Monkeys. A derogatory remark about a monkey got former Viriginia Sen. Goerge Allen in trouble with his re-election bid years ago. Conversely, my sister and I (we are Caucasian) always had a good time at the monkey exhibit at a local zoo but never thought we were being racially prejudicial. I don't think segregation is an aspect of the animal kingdo.
Posted by: kay | April 9, 2008 4:08 PM
Maybe I'm just ignorant here, but is "monkey" a racial slur?
Posted by: Lynette | April 9, 2008 4:16 PM
This is ridiculous. I call my two year old twin boys monkies almost on a daily basis when they are goofing off or climbing around on something. I read the article and it was obvious there was a history of issues with her neighbors and they used this opportunity to make her out as racist. I get why black people might have a sensitivity to the word given that people have used it and other words similar to portray blacks as animal like or less than human. But this so obviously was not the case when you read the context it was said in.
Absolutely absurd and the fact she was fined even more so. Obama's campaign even bought into this being a race issue for a minute is very disappointing.
Posted by: Sue | April 9, 2008 4:16 PM
I hope she does challenge the ticket and I can't wait for Sharpton, Jackson and all the other loud mouth idiots to come to town.
Calling a kid a monkey is not racism.
Posted by: Kelly | April 9, 2008 4:25 PM
Maybe I'm just ignorant here, but is "monkey" a racial slur?
Posted by: Lynette | April 9, 2008 4:16 PM
Is "macaca" one?
Why don't any of you ask the parents of her neighbors who felt the need to tell the cops about it whether they felt "monkeys" was racially-motivated? Or isn't their opinion of what she said valid because they're not sufficiently Obama-supporting enough?
Posted by: Jeff | April 9, 2008 4:26 PM
its the militant attitude of "kieth lifetime southsider" that people who've had their precious feelings hurt MUST call in the authorities that causes this bad blood...COMPLY??? - who was it that got "all nasty about it". It was the mother of those kids not the women shouting at them - how? she called the cops!!! How has come to you looking over at me and thinking i owe you something? i could look up in the sky and it might offend you- so automattically I should feel compelled to beg your forgiveness? DREAM ON! And Carpentersville for having such an ordinance...COME ON people - take back your town and kick those morons making those laws out! This is where it gets stupid - the cops get to read my mind and decide whether I meant it this way or that way...HUH????
Posted by: spanky | April 9, 2008 4:29 PM
This is so dumb...Kids climb LIKE monkey's! They also eat LIKE pigs, swim LIKE fish, act LIKE dogs, sing LIKE canaries and sometimes smell LIKE goats! Isn't it time that everyone stops acting LIKE the horses ass!
Posted by: G. Wright | April 9, 2008 4:30 PM
Well you all are a bunch of racists.
Last time I checked, most monkeys, especially the ones in Central and South America (and Mexico), were brown.
Awfully racist of that black woman to assume 'monkey' meant black, and not brown.
My mother used to call my tanned hide out of trees all the time when I was little. At least she knew monkey's were brown.
What an overwrought excuse to accuse. What a farce.
Posted by: Toivo | April 9, 2008 4:32 PM
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! AMERICA NEEDS HILARRY! WE MUST NEVAR ALLOW HUSSEIN OBAMA TO REVERT ARE COUNTRY TO CIVIL WAR!
HILARRY 08!!
Posted by: STEVE AHN | April 9, 2008 4:33 PM
I think most people know that she did not mean anything racist by using the word "monkey". What little children aren't? But, about that $75.00 ticker, that is the stupidist thing I have ever heard of. What happened to freedom of speech. It's possible the 2 women did not like each other and the mother of the kids thought this was an opportunity to cause problems for her neighbor.
Posted by: dj | April 9, 2008 4:42 PM
Why don't any of you ask the parents of her neighbors who felt the need to tell the cops about it whether they felt "monkeys" was racially-motivated? Or isn't their opinion of what she said valid because they're not sufficiently Obama-supporting enough?
Posted by: Jeff | April 9, 2008 4:26 PM
Jeffy,
You are mis-representing this statement on purpose, a woman who says kids are climbing around like monkeys is not even comparable to Republican George Allen looking at a brown skined kid and calling him a racist slur "Macaca"....TWICE.
...and not only that, we've also got other McCain supporters out there like Jeff who are now calling Obama a "Tiger Woods candidate" it was done in front of a big crowd (including McCain himself) yesterday.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/09/countdown-mccain-supporter-disparages-obama-by-likening-him-to-tiger-woods/
Posted by: John E | April 9, 2008 4:42 PM
"RACISM SPEAKS"
STICKS AND STONES MAY BREAK OUR BONES BUT NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION BROKE ME, YOU, YOUR MOM, YOUR DAD, YOUR SISTER, YOUR BROTHER, YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR NEIGHBOR.
NOT A MONKEY! NOT A STONE, AND NOT A BONE.
BUT GEORGE BUSH DID!
Posted by: Roger Morris | April 9, 2008 4:46 PM
Clearly a no-win situation for Obama, even though he had ZERO (read: ZERO, people) to do with any of this.
The people who were complaining about Obama's campaign being too PC are not still complaining about PC because that's all they ever do.
It's time for everyone to realize that you can't just use words willy-nilly to inflame sentiments.
On the other hand, don't come crying to the media when someone knocks your teeth out for calling them a nasty word.
Posted by: Roger This | April 9, 2008 5:02 PM
If Ms. Ramirez-Sliwinski were not an elected Obama delegate, and just a neighbor, would this "story" see the light of day? I can decide for myself what should draw my outrage. The only portion of this story that is bothersome is the fact that someone in this country can be fined $75 for pointing out that children were behaving like animals (Can I say "animals" or is that word fineable as well?). If she had said they were behaving "improperly" could she still be singled out for singling out minorities (even with being one herself)? Is there a list somewhere of excusable offenses based on race/creed/disability? Is it "improper" of me to suggest there be such a list? In my defense I'd like to say I made the suggestion because I'm an "idiot" and I would now like to claim "idiot" as a disability and have it included on that list.
Posted by: George W Brower | April 9, 2008 5:09 PM
Shame - I wasn't aware that the States was bogged down with all the Political Correctness nonsense, too...all the "Baa baa, rainbow sheep..." & suchlike nonsense. People're just too touchy!
Posted by: Bob Lowe | April 9, 2008 5:30 PM
I've got a better idea. Let's pursue charges against this mother for being racist. Obviously it is she who believes that Black Children can be called monkeys in a racist context.
Posted by: Rhonin | April 9, 2008 5:32 PM
AMERICA does need this dialogue. Ask African Americans if they call their children MONKEYS. WE DONT. Its a NEGATIVE part of our culture. And there has been a racial stigma to certain words coming from certain people. Its about respect for someone else. If they feel offended, respect their feelings. Thats not too hard is it?
Posted by: Keith Lifetime Chicagoan and Southsider | April 9, 2008 5:37 PM
1. Obama has no problem taking money from men who call women b*****s and h*s in their music.
2. Obama's own supporters have likened him to Tiger Woods without a whimper from the press or other liberals.
Posted by: Dan C | April 9, 2008 5:39 PM
John E, explain how it's not? Both of them looked at younger people that you so elogquently called "brown-skinned" and called them words that mean monkey. What's the difference? The only difference I see is that the parents of the monkey kids in this case were so mad about it that they told the cops.
Posted by: Jeff | April 9, 2008 5:41 PM
She didn't call them monkeys, or say they looked like monkeys.
She told these kids, who were climbing trees and being noisy (as all kids will be) to stop ACTING like monkeys.
There is not now, nor was there before a racial aspect to this comment.
This has been typical whinority bull sh*t.
Posted by: D Palmer | April 9, 2008 5:52 PM
John E, as usual, your severe partisanship just about kills your credibility. You are all attack, attack, attack and no discuss, no evaluate. You are the left-wing equivalent of Ann Coulter. Congratulations......
Did it ever occur to you that the "Tiger Woods" remark was little more than some GOP dope referring not to Tiger's racial heritage, but to the dope's opinion (entirely wrong and out of touch as it is) that both Tiger and Senator Obama are flashy young hotshots who appeared to come out of nowhere and appeared to be more sizzle than steak? No, you, apparently didn't consider that, being a froth-at-the-mouth partisan.
Posted by: Tim1979 | April 9, 2008 5:55 PM
2. Obama's own supporters have likened him to Tiger Woods without a whimper from the press or other liberals.
Posted by: Dan C | April 9, 2008 5:39 PM
Really Danny? I support Obama and I've never heard that.
Is that the way all Republicans feel or did you just hear that down at your local KKK meeting today?
Posted by: John E | April 9, 2008 6:12 PM
John E, as usual, your severe partisanship just about kills your credibility. You are all attack, attack, attack and no discuss, no evaluate. You are the left-wing equivalent of Ann Coulter. Congratulations......
Posted by: Tim1979 | April 9, 2008 5:55 PM
Really? and what does that make you, Timmy?...a "non-partisan" Wingnut?
And what's so special about 1979, is that the year you dropped out of high school and joined the GOP fulltime or something?
Posted by: John E | April 9, 2008 6:26 PM
She told kids climbing in a tree to "stop climbing in the tree like monkeys" - please stop the Political Correct stuff. This is a normal thing to call any kid climbing in a tree. I call my dog a monkey sometimes! Can we be civilized and not so quick to crush people?
Posted by: R | April 9, 2008 6:42 PM
This is truly ridiculous. I used to call my caucasian nephew a "monkey" and myself a "monkey's uncle" because he used to climb on anything he could. I guess I'd better resign as an uncle.
Perhaps if the African American mother of the tree climbing children did her job and watched her kids, they wouldn't be in the tree potentially injuring themselves.
Posted by: Karl Damisch | April 9, 2008 6:47 PM
Finally! A sensible response to a neglible, inane incident that should NEVER have become an issue. Of all the B.S. campaigning we've been through, this may be the impetus for me to actually vote for Obama.
Posted by: Dewey Cox | April 9, 2008 6:57 PM
I’m a true believer in History repeats it’s self. The Civil War was fought North against South . It was black against white if we call it what it really was.
Obama gets in and we will see another Civil War. White against black…. Nobody should be shocked by it. Obama will split this Country…… Look at all his lies and racism, he’s what’s referred to as a Slick Willy…..
I call my grandsons monkeys all the time it means nothings they are kids and I love them.. I'd never vote for Obama for president, black people have been raised with a mentally to scream racism every time they open their mouth. White people have been afraid to call it the way it is, maybe now people will ignore their phony racist rants. America vote white before it’s to late, see what’s happening……..
Posted by: Mary | April 9, 2008 7:30 PM
I just want to say that I - a white mother - call my white daughter "monkey". Its her nickname. Why? Because she has a lot of energy and climbs and hangs from things like a monkey. I know that people used the word as a racial slur decades ago, but I thought we were LONG past that. And where has common sense gone? Its pretty obvious if a word is being used as a slur or not, and I highly doubt it was meant as anything other than a comment on the goofy, energetic behavior of kids - kids of any color. This isn't even newsworthy, for goodness' sake. When/how did we devolve into this playground mentality? Where have all the grown-ups gone?
Posted by: Tracy | April 9, 2008 7:43 PM
Kids climb trees, I climbed trees as a kid. I lived in trees. My Mom called me a monkey.
My kids climb trees. They have a tree house. I call my 6 year old a monkey. He is the best tree climber I have ever seen, besides myself of course.
Monkeys are great, they are our cousins. I love monkeys, and I love kids.
One time at the library my 6 year old climbed the tree and the lady at the library came outside and said "We just can't have kids climbing trees".
What a shame, taking climbing trees away from these adroit, agile little creatures.
Posted by: Anna | April 9, 2008 7:57 PM
I'd like to see if Jesse Jackson will be courageous enough to stand up and declare that this isn't a racial issue at all, and tell the neighbor that she is demeaning the civil rights movement by making this an issue.
I'd like to - but I won't hold my breath.
Posted by: Russell | April 9, 2008 8:06 PM
My kids thought their name was little monkey until they were about five. My son is now known as Ape.
Only the MSM special interest groups are trying to make a racial issue out of this.
Posted by: Web Smith | April 9, 2008 8:32 PM
I have never seen a monkey that did not have straight hair and thin lips. She meant it racially:
"Latino Immigrants Come to the U.S. with Negative Stereotypes of Black Americans, New Study Shows
Durham, N.C. -- Latinos bring negative stereotypes about black Americans to the U.S. when they immigrate and identify more with whites than blacks, according to a study of the changing political dynamics in the South.
The researchers concluded that Latino immigrants may bring their feelings about the racial hierarchies in their own countries with them to the U.S. The researchers noted that previous studies on race and Latin America, especially Mexico, identify blacks as “representing the bottom rungs of society.”
The study also looked at the racial group with whom Latino immigrants most identify. More than 78 percent feel they have the most in common with whites, and 52.8 percent said they have the least in common with blacks."
From a study by researchers at Duke University.
Posted by: Hedcutter | April 9, 2008 8:52 PM
Why were there no citations issued for the children for disorderly conduct as well? The local ordinance provides for a citation to be issued for actions that disturb or alarm other people and the kids climbing in the tree obviously disturbed this woman. Of course they could have cited the parents as well since they were allowing their kids to damage the tree by climbing in it. People need to stand up when someone damages other peoples property.
Posted by: Ken345 | April 9, 2008 9:35 PM
When I was a kid, Mann Park on the southside of Chicago had a pipe structure on the playground called The Monkey Bars. We'd play on that all the time. The neighborhood was white. The kids playing on The Monkey Bars were white. We climbed and swung from The Monkey Bars like a bunch of monkeys.
Now, it's racist to refer to black kids climbing and swinging in the trees like a bunch on monkeys - monkeys!
Duh!
Posted by: Bob | April 9, 2008 9:37 PM
I am white and my son is Mexican. I used to call him Monkey Boy when he was little, should I have been fined? Obama's "associates" and spiritual advisors are all very radical and racist. I have always told my kids that they are guilty by association, based on those they choose to associate with. Hummm....Obama would be very scary as President of the United States! Based on those he choses to associate with I wonder if reverse racism and lack of common sense would prevail.
Posted by: Michele | April 9, 2008 9:37 PM
PLEASE PROVIDE HANDBOOK! Apparently I cannot use the word "lucky" or "monkey" anymore.
Posted by: veracious | April 9, 2008 10:09 PM
John E, thanks for addressing me as "Timmy" and injecting your own hate-filled theory on the significance of 1979. And thanks for addressing Jeff as "Jeffy"---you illustrated my point beautifully about how when given the opportunity to evaluate, discuss and contribute to a mutually respectful civic discourse, you typically choose name-calling and ad hominem attacks. Your record remains perfect. Thanks!
Posted by: Tim1979 | April 9, 2008 10:31 PM
She did not mean it racially, hedcutter.
She calls her own grandchildren monkeys. One of the two mothers took it personally because the two of them have had problems before.
As written up in the original story.
The reason this is an issue is because the Obama campaign tried to force her out so this wouldn't become an issue for THEM. I think some of the local people on the board took it hard because she was the only Hispanic trustee and had worked on important issues. Meanwhile, another fellow on the board is a felon and wife-beater and no one was trying to force him out!
So the Obama campaign was forced to back off when their cover-up attempt became public. Their bad for trying to force her to quit in the first place.
Posted by: Zee | April 9, 2008 11:27 PM
Your'e all funnier than a barrel of monkies! That's an expression older than the hills. Can you deal with it? I don't think so. If Barack Obama is our next president, we are signing up for 4 years of this crap. And it's all your fault! Forget about the war, the economy, health care and our children's future. Hey, hey we're the Monkies!!!
Posted by: Kat | April 9, 2008 11:50 PM
This whole "scandal" reminds me of the first season of "The Apprentice" when one (white) contestant said, "That's the pot calling the kettle black" in response to Omarosa, who then called the commentor a racist. Honestly, I have 7 nieces and nephews, a few are black, a couple are Asian, and the rest are white, but when they're climbing the tree in the backyard, we call all of them "monkeys."
Posted by: Kai | April 9, 2008 11:57 PM
John E, well done. Thanks for the chuckle, and thanks for illustrating everything I wrote about you.
Posted by: Tim1979 | April 10, 2008 2:16 PM
It would appear that Jeff is either just not going to get it, or he's purposely trying too stir things up! It is very obvious that the term "monkey" was refering to the action of hanging on in the trees and not anything to do with the boys' race. Even after being told this, Jeff still insists on making these idiotic statements (Jeff: I said your statements were idiotic, not that you were an idiot).
And for your information, I am NOT an Obama supporter!
As for the way the story was written, it did show a bias since it did not give all the facts. If were had read only that story and not know about the whole thing ahead of time, I would have believed it, myself
Posted by: Jon | April 10, 2008 4:35 PM
Posted by: Anna | April 9, 2008 7:57 PM
Anna, this is great stuff. I'm still laughing, and I got some monkey in me. Letterman references them quite often in a neutral kind of way.
Me, some small part monkey man, is working to keep da blud pressure in check. Just going to flow with it. The problem, though, is that so many innocuous things have made it into the dems PC box. Now everybody's has to be in on the act. Well, going to monk on that guitar, tonight. Look out now!
Posted by: Scott - Houston, Tx | April 10, 2008 5:05 PM