by Frank James
Sen. Barack Obama may be virtually tied with Sen. John McCain in Gallup's national tracking poll which seeks to gauge which candidate voters support.
But when Gallup asked voters who they believe will win the White House in November, the Democratic senator from Illinois has a clear advantage over his Republican Senate colleague from Arizona.
As Gallup reports:
PRINCETON, NJ -- Not only has Barack Obama recently opened a small lead over John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking of voter preferences for the general election, but he leads McCain 52% to 41% in public perceptions of who will win in November.
Reporting today on the results of a survey taken June 9-12, Gallup reports that "Democrats are slightly more confident that their presumptive nominee will prevail in November - 76 percent say Obama will win.'' Republicans are more bullish about McCain's chances -- 67 percent.
"What tips the balance of national opinion more strongly in favor of Obama is that, by a nine-percentage point margin, independents join Democrats in believing Obama is likely to win,'' Gallup's Lydia Saad writes.
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And, while Obama has attracted younger voters, they are not as hopeful:
"While one might expect younger Americans to be the most idealistic about the chances of the first black nominee for either major party winning the presidency, they are in fact the least likely to believe he will win,'' Saad notes. "Adults aged 18 to 34 are essentially divided between choosing Obama and McCain as the likely winner: 48 percent predict an Obama win vs. 45 percent for McCain. By contrast, the majority of Americans 55 and older say Obama will win.
"They say perception becomes reality,'' Saad adds "Given this, perceptions could be a lethal for Obama's presidential bid if voters believed he wasn't electable. But at this early stage of the general election campaign, perceptions are actually creating some wind behind his back, even among older generations of Americans and Southerners who are more likely to back McCain for the presidency.''
The results come from a survey of 822 adults conducted June 9-12. The possible margin of error is plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Comments
"Sen. Barack Obama may be virtually tied with Sen. Barack Obama in Gallup's national tracking poll which seeks to gauge which candidate voters support. " What???!!!! Is this a misprint
Posted by: Chuck Wilson | June 16, 2008 9:49 AM
Clinton may have been a joke. Bush may have been a worse joke, But Obama is a very bad mistake and perhaps the democrats wants to end our society as we know it. I'll be changing addresses to one in Europe if this jerk wins.
Posted by: Dirty Sanchez | June 16, 2008 9:49 AM
From the first paragraph in this article I can understand why Barack Obama is seen as the winner in the Gallup poll. Has John McCain distanced himself so much from the race that Obama is now running against himself?
Posted by: thomas | June 16, 2008 9:51 AM
"Sen. Barack Obama may be virtually tied with Sen. Barack Obama in Gallup's national tracking poll which seeks to gauge which candidate voters support."
More proof that Web journalism is run by robots, or maybe no one cares to proofread copy anymore. Egads.
Posted by: Scott May | June 16, 2008 9:51 AM
"Sen. Barack Obama may be virtually tied with Sen. Barack Obama in Gallup's national tracking poll which seeks to gauge which candidate voters support."
I really don't expect that to change, do you? Sen. Obama will always get the same support as himself, won't he? ;^)
Posted by: Stev | June 16, 2008 9:55 AM
This poll is an expression of the conventional wisdom that in '08 any Democrat should easily beat any Republican... given the unpopularity of Bush and the war, plus the public just likes to shift power from time to time.
However, according to this CW, Obama should be polling far ahead of McCain, but he isn't. They're virtually tied. And Obama should have gotten a substantial bounce when HC dropped out, but he didn't.
Democrats would do well to worry about the presidential race. The election is still Obama's to lose, and he could lose it.
Remember when Dukakis should have beaten Bush No.1?
Posted by: MJ | June 16, 2008 9:55 AM
im pretty sure thats a typo, line one.. looks like somebody has a case of the mondays.
Posted by: m kosempa | June 16, 2008 9:56 AM
well considering mc bush might sleep way past nov it s a good bet
Posted by: show me | June 16, 2008 9:57 AM
It would be a crying shame if Mc lame becomes our next president. If he does, I won't come back to the states until our country can elect a better leader. Until then, I'll just watch the country go down the toilet from afar.
Posted by: Christopher Powell-Bangkok, TH | June 16, 2008 9:57 AM
Sen. Barack Obama may be virtually tied with Sen. Barack Obama in Gallup's national tracking poll?
Wow. Virtually tied, huh.
Which half of Obama has the edge?
And do "journalists" actually read what they write first?
Posted by: Zigler | June 16, 2008 9:58 AM
It would seem in your rush to elect maybe he is running against Him self like a Doctor doing his own brain surgery. “Sen. Barack Obama may be virtually tied with Sen. Barack Obama in Gallup's national tracking poll which seeks to gauge which candidate voter’s support”. Who is in the tank for whom? God Help us all, "no change here".
Posted by: Gary | June 16, 2008 9:59 AM
Sen. Barack Obama virtually tied with Sen. Barack Obama, you say?
Posted by: Alex | June 16, 2008 10:00 AM
"Sen. Barack Obama may be virtually tied with Sen. Barack Obama..."
I'd be willing to bet that they're tied. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that they'll stay tied throughout the entire race. Anyone want to give me odds?
Seriously. Check your work before you post it for everyone to read. Disgraceful.
Posted by: Justin | June 16, 2008 10:03 AM
"They say perception becomes reality"
Go tell that to President Howard Dean.
Posted by: Buck | June 16, 2008 10:03 AM
"Sen. Barack Obama may be virtually tied with Sen. Barack Obama in Gallup's national tracking poll...."
I certainly hope he is -- since this is a matter of logical necessity.
Posted by: Paul | June 16, 2008 10:07 AM
- Barack Obama is the 'last clear chance' for American citizens to reestablish our original constitutional principle of 'government for the benefit of the people'.
- It is unfortunate that American presidential politics has become like the "American Idol" TV show.
- We are electing an ideology not just an 'individual'.
- The 'arithmetic' is simple:
McCain (Republican) = Corporate Interests
Obama (Democrat) = True democracy for the benefit of the people.
- If the 'best man wins' then Barack Obama is going to be our next president. His motivations are clear and powerful. His goal is to restore our democracy and to take back our government from the powerful business interests that have infiltrated Washington during the present Republican administration.
Posted by: John Charles Webb, Jr. | June 16, 2008 10:10 AM
I think it will be funny if Obama wins. It will prove to the world that Americans are dumb and we deserve whatever we get. Just goes to show someone with no experience who says empty words can get elected if the media backs them and if they write good speeches. Pretty sad what America has become when media decides elections and the election becomes like an episode of American Idol.
Posted by: Cryos | June 16, 2008 10:12 AM
Who are they polling? There is no way that empty suit can win.
Posted by: brigitte | June 16, 2008 10:19 AM
How come I am never asked to take a poll? Most everyone I know that lives in states where you do not have to claim which party you want to vote for in the primary choose Obama because they hated Hilary so much. But in truth they are all Republicans. So guess what Obama, you are really not going to get that many votes come November! Good Luck! Go McCain!!!
Posted by: ILREPUBLICANGIRL | June 16, 2008 10:20 AM
Given the state of the nation, almost any Democrat will win as a vote of frustration against the last eight years. I give Bush some credit, for keeping the US safe, ending some unfair taxes (marriage penalty, a few educational credits for middle class), but the corporate sell out (big oil, big banks, credit card companies, health insurance companies, etc) has most people hurting like never before. Some big adjustments are in order, and soon will be here.
Then there is the expense of Iraq....
The US can no longer do the heavy lifting for the world. I hope Obama can focus on US issues first. Yes, he is inexperienced, but the critical decisions will be who he selects as advisors. He needs not just experienced people, but a balance of viewpoints. This is another area Bush stumbled with.
Th
Posted by: Liz | June 16, 2008 10:28 AM
At least Obama is not beating himself, LOL.
Posted by: Tom in NC | June 16, 2008 10:28 AM
I'll be changing addresses to one in Europe if this jerk wins.
Posted by: Dirty Sanchez | June 16, 2008 9:49 AM
Let me know if you need any help.
Posted by: bill r. | June 16, 2008 10:42 AM
In 2000, the people of the United States wanted change in a big way...they didn't like how the country was being run, didn't like the Clintons, and didn't like Gore (Nobel Prize anyone??). They wanted change, they didn't care what kind of change...they wanted change. They didn't care that Bush was inexperienced, they didn't care that mistakes were made in the past, they wanted change. We got Bush...fast foward to NOW...The citizens of this great country want change AGAIN. Many will vote for NOBAMA. They don't care about his inexperience. They don't care about his racist past, they don't care that he didn't win any of the major states in the primary. They want change...Has anyone seen NOBAMA's ideas on the economy, taxes and healthcare?? Increase the death tax to 45%, increase taxes by 15-20% to pay for his socialized healthcare, decrease services for the elderly, etc...
Also, isn't it a little suspect that 90% of one ethnic group votes for him? Now in the paper today, I read that an extremely large number of conservative Republican African Americans are going to vote for NOBAMA. Any reverse discrimination going on here?? If 90% of the Euro-American voters voted for the white Presidential candidate, what do you think the papers would say the day after the election..."America the home of the (discrimatory) brave",,,
just thinking........
Posted by: NOBAMA | June 16, 2008 10:53 AM
as we saw in the Gore/Bush & Kerry/Bush 2000 & 2004 election, polls are not very accurate !
Posted by: Steve | June 16, 2008 10:54 AM
Sen. MacCain is old and out of touch, Sen obama is young and has the support of the youth. America vote Obama, vote for change.
Uzoma
(Nigeria)
Posted by: Uzoma Charles | June 16, 2008 10:54 AM
urrah!!! OBAMA OBAMA rah rah rah!!!
Posted by: fernando canavati | June 16, 2008 10:55 AM
Obama is a joke, wake up people. Only McCain has the experience to run the country.
Barack Hussein Obama shouldn't even be a Senator, let alone a President. The only reason he is a Senator is because he ran againt a bigger no name loser then himself in Alan Keyes.
Posted by: Gallo | June 16, 2008 10:59 AM
the Dems are so desperate to have "Obama" beat Obama!!
Hope so, the wife needs to have another "Proud" moment...
Posted by: frank | June 16, 2008 11:00 AM
If Obama wins we are all in trouble...he has no experience. All of our taxes are going to go up in order to pay for his "government programs".
Posted by: Neil Vogel | June 16, 2008 11:02 AM
They also thought John Kerry was going to win... whooops!
Posted by: Joe | June 16, 2008 11:11 AM
No worries, Obama will not win the election, it aint gonna happens people no matter how much the press wants him to it just aint gonna happen.
Posted by: Kevoh | June 16, 2008 11:30 AM
I suspect McCain will be taking steroids to keep up with the young man.
Posted by: frank | June 16, 2008 11:31 AM
It is supprising but seemed to be a reality that the work of Dr. King continues to elevate his race. If history erases that far of the system and leads Sen. Barak Obama to that top of political figure, it is more likely that he will win the presidential seat and possibly change the African-Americans way of life and of thinking as well. Sen. Barak Obama as the first to occupy an office as President, hopeful will be the rest of us. Parents will invest more in their children, divorce rate will drop along with domestic violence, because every single African-Americans or every unprivillege individuals
will have hope that one day things could change for the better to them, for racism is walking to its end. This is what I call "democracy." Without equality, could democracy exist? I doubt it. We may try to bring it to every part in this world, but if we do not have it with transparency in here, our effort to promote democracy around the world will be fruitless. You may call him a "jerk", but with Mrs Clinton by his side, we will experience the change that most of us are waiting for.
Posted by: A. Hall | June 16, 2008 11:32 AM
They also thought John Kerry was going to win... whooops!
Posted by: Joe | June 16, 2008 11:11 AM
That's a good point joe. There was no way I thought Bush would get a second term but it just goes to show how easily scared people can get. Hopefully the "boogie man" approach won't work this time but we certainly need to keep our eye on the ball. Thanks for noticing.
Posted by: bill r. | June 16, 2008 11:34 AM
In Response to Nobama's comment: Why is it suspect or racist for 90% of African-American's to vote for an African-American candidate? All candidates until now have been white male candidates and All Euro-Americans, as well as African-Americans, have had to choose a vote between two white male candidates. Did you think it was suspicious when Euro-American's voted overwhelmingly for the Euro-American candidate? Did you think it was suspect when Bill Clinton received 90% of the African-American vote? Or are you suspicious only when 90% of African-Americans vote for an African-American candidate?
Signed: A Proud American!!
Posted by: A Proud American | June 16, 2008 11:50 AM
A Hall, and water will turn to wine, and mana will fall from the heavens, and oceans will part, and Lazaras will be cured, and the blind will see again, and the cripple will walk and Obama will be our saviour.
Posted by: RFB | June 16, 2008 11:54 AM
A great American speaks do us all a favor never come back - I'd rather have people come/live here who want to make a difference.
It would be a crying shame if Mc lame becomes our next president. If he does, I won't come back to the states until our country can elect a better leader. Until then, I'll just watch the country go down the toilet from afar.
Posted by: Christopher Powell-Bangkok, TH | June 16, 2008 9:57 AM
Posted by: MinisterR | June 16, 2008 11:57 AM
The Swamp will find room to report this but not the most recent Gallup daily tracking poll that puts McCain within the margin of error (44-42, Obama). You guys are doing a heckuva job over there at the department of making things nice for Obama.
Posted by: Jeff | June 16, 2008 12:01 PM
Polls at this point are like dead skunks....they both stink. Don't believe them; they have usually been incorrect. I think they are meant to brainwash the American voters. I will not participate if I am asked to take a "poll". Just junk.
Posted by: Clyde Nugget | June 16, 2008 12:04 PM
You should have signed your comment as "uninformed Proud American"
The following is completely in error
Why is it suspect or racist for 90% of African-American's to vote for an African-American candidate? All candidates until now have been white male candidates and All Euro-Americans, as well as African-Americans, have had to choose a vote between two white male candidates.
Posted by: MinisterR | June 16, 2008 12:04 PM
Obama has big plans that will take the nation in the wrong direction. You don't need more taxes in recession. This has been proven many times over. His economic plan will push the nation into a worse recession. Why are we seeing Obama 4 times as much as Mccain.
Posted by: Archie Hampton | June 16, 2008 12:08 PM
The fist line is obviously a subliminal ploy/faupaw to try and dictate a media influential direction.
I belong to a forum or 24,000+ members where we had a thread for people with a poll to vote as to who they are going to vote for and Obama lost by a very wide margin.
The Gallup poll was probably was probably an indication of the fears of those 822 who expressed that opinion, not the way they themselves would vote.
Any fool who votes for Obama doesn't know the facts. Not only does he lack any kind of experienced in politics, he would have very little influence as a president with the senate.
He is a virtual newb to politics and the older die hards would not give him the time of day.
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Posted by: We The People Of The United States | June 16, 2008 12:20 PM
Hey Drity Sanchez, you want to move to Europe because of Obama? Do you even know the political climat in Europe is more liberal than Obama? Good luck adjusting. Ciao!
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | June 16, 2008 12:24 PM
You should have signed your comment as "uninformed Proud American"
The following is completely in error
Why is it suspect or racist for 90% of African-American's to vote for an African-American candidate? All candidates until now have been white male candidates and All Euro-Americans, as well as African-Americans, have had to choose a vote between two white male candidates.
------------------------------------------------
Did I sleep through a general election that had a candidate that wasn't a white male?
Posted by: Shelly | June 16, 2008 12:32 PM
"If 90% of the Euro-American voters voted for the white Presidential candidate, what do you think the papers would say the day after the election..." They would say what they always have - And the winner is... In case you forgot Euro-American voters have bested your scenario in every election so far. They voted 100% for the white candidate. Why are you so afraid we now have a candidate who is 50% white and 50% black? May the best man win. Let's talk issues - it's the 21st century.
Posted by: Discerning Voter | June 16, 2008 12:35 PM
I dunno, Scot, there's always England. Plus he could move to Bratislava or some other place where government regulation of "business" is non-existent. Either way, it's better than Canada. Speaking of which, why isn't Alec Baldwin there now. I volunteered to help him pack after the last election!
Posted by: Jeff | June 16, 2008 12:37 PM
"Not only has Barack Obama recently opened a small lead over John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking of voter preferences for the general election"
This is just a rank falsehood. The latest Gallup Daily Tracking Poll is Obama 44, McCain 42, within the margin of error of 3. What bounce?
Posted by: Jeff | June 16, 2008 12:46 PM
This is accurate for how the election will turn out. The Republicans know it. Why do you think McCaine is the best they come up with. They have already accepted that Bush 2 for 2 terms makes it impossible for a Republican to win. With a war of aggression and the oil companies ripping people off for the biggest profits they have ever had and Americans' earning power and position in the world at such an incredible low. With Terrorism being given its biggest boost since Russia invaded Afghanistan making the world much less safe. They just hope they can complain for the next 4 years so the American people forget how they were used by the Republican party
Posted by: dave | June 16, 2008 12:49 PM
Oh God how funny just another
"Typical Obama Kool Aid
Drinker Obamafool",who is
unable to put the toxic kool
aid down long enough to
type up the right poll numbers
for the right candidates no
less.So was this done by one
of the 6000 Young Obamabots
or Obamafools now then?
Posted by: Ralphinphnx | June 16, 2008 12:51 PM
Obama should win, and his words aren't empty. Look at his journey, his belief, and his intellect. If you want a thoughful leader then vote Obama. If you want Status quo with a war monger old school backward leader, vote McCain. Don't be afraid of change!
Posted by: Michael | June 16, 2008 1:10 PM
Most of the people that I have talked to at work are switching parties, and are voting for McCain, most have been long term Democrats. So I don't know where they got their 822 voters from, and when, but I have serious doubts about Gallups accuracy and their so-called "unbaised" poll taking.
Posted by: Darkwater | June 16, 2008 1:25 PM
"Obama should win, and his words aren't empty. Look at his journey, his belief, and his intellect. If you want a thoughful leader then vote Obama."
Notice how he conspiculously left out looking at Obama's record! If you want a fairy tale vote Obama. If you want experience and leadership, vote McCain.
Posted by: Jeff | June 16, 2008 1:29 PM
1. The general election has not yet really begun.
2. Just what is this vaunted experience that we are constantly be told is held by Senator McCain?
3. Experienced politicians such as Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft, Rice, etc. ???
4. The estate tax is NOT the death tax. It only affects a small % of the population, who have estates worth millions which they are allowed to pass on to their heirs.
The REAL Death Tax is that paid by those who have worked hard all of their lives but made too much to receive any assistance, but not enough to pay for the exorbitantly high costs associated with long term care, who must divest themselves of all their assets (except for the $2000 that a single person is allowed to keep, $3000 for a couple) before they can receive some assistance, which all too often is in the form of an "abandoned hospital, minimal care" facility. They do not get to pass on to their children, the fruits of their labors and sacrifices.
4. You prefer the economic policies of the past 7+ (at least) years,???
5. You do have one piece of evidence which does somewhat legitimate your fears of having inexperienced public servants. That would be George W. Bush.
6. Ask those who receive the benefits of Social Security, Medicare or live just across the border in Canada if they would prefer to give up their access to "socialized medicine, etc."
Just sayin'.
Posted by: roncypert | June 16, 2008 1:29 PM
It's still a long way between now and November. Hopefully, by then, more voters will wake up to the fact that Obama doesn't have enough experience nor strenght to be the president of this country. My prediction: Senator McCain will be the next president.
Posted by: Ryan | June 16, 2008 1:33 PM
The Junior Senator from the most corrupt state in the Union - elected with the support of the most corrupt governor and mayor in Illinois history - good job America - way to use your heads! What has this guy done for Illinois, much less what can he do for this nation? Americans are uneducated idiots - pick up a book and read for once and then your choice for president should be clear...very clear.
Posted by: Bill | June 16, 2008 1:39 PM
You must work at a scary place, theres no special reason for anyone to be so hating Obama. Besides, right now we only need an ideological figurehead that can re-gain the respect of other nations and he's the one to do it, not McCain. No one has ever gone into a first term with presidential "experience" it's a rediculous notion that people love to buy into. It's too unique a position for any politician to "train" for in any sense.
Posted by: whatevs | June 16, 2008 1:46 PM
Most of the voters, you say? I doubt it very much. Most of the voters I've "pooled" are overwhelmingly for McCain,
a lot of disgruntled democrats looking for a change but sick of typical dirty Chicago politicians. I'm tired of hearing about Obama's "journey" of advancing using affirmmative action. Check out McCain's journey if you want a compelling story of a true patriot. Obama is a perfect example of what's wrong with this country - lots of talk, lots of promises without any substance other than RAISING TAXES.
Posted by: noneoftheabove | June 16, 2008 1:46 PM
Unfortunately, the ugly head of racism, already raised by the Clintons, will rare up before all is said and done and, like the "swift-boating" of 04, the Republicans will try to excite the fears of the voting public. Most of those older voters who voted for Hillary will in fact vote for McCain that is, for four more years of Bushism. It will be very close in any case.
Posted by: george watson | June 16, 2008 1:58 PM
If you can't get enough of high gas prices and want the Iraq war to drag on for another 100 years, pray for McCain to win.
Posted by: Lisa Bessolini | June 16, 2008 2:03 PM
I bet you had more to with these issue going awry than McCain.
I always seem to be in the minority I was against the Iraq war (first and second time and I served during the two and the previous IRAN/IRAQ war) but over 70% of the population and congress were in support.
You and Obama (if he actually ever does his job in the senate sub-committee he chairs or ever gets access to real intel) will find out that we are not leaving Iraq any time soon and when we do there will be a permanent foreign force there to support them as there is in many other post war countries.
Your little swipes are inaccurate and disingenuous to say the least and the comments of an uniformed and immature mind.
You said - If you can't get enough of high gas prices and want the Iraq war to drag on for another 100 years, pray for McCain to win.
Posted by: Lisa Bessolini | June 16, 2008 2:03 PM
Signed - a 43 yr old father of two, husband business owner, educated, 15 year Navy veteran, mediocre tri-athlete, born and raised in Hyde Park (south side of Chicago) minority supporter of John McCain
Posted by: MinisterR | June 16, 2008 2:18 PM
The Junior Senator from the most corrupt state in the Union - elected with the support of the most corrupt governor and mayor in Illinois history - good job America - way to use your heads! What has this guy done for Illinois, much less what can he do for this nation? Americans are uneducated idiots - pick up a book and read for once and then your choice for president should be clear...very clear.
Posted by: Bill |
Obama was elected because he is a very smart man who seems to care about people in a very dumb age when our government and its leaders only care about themselves. (Why has no one questioned or criticized the fact that, although Iowa is under water, President Nero is off enjoying his last tour of Europe? Wouldn;t anybody who cared - as they should care - have cut the trip short to get back to Iowa, at least to show solidarity with and support for the Iowans? Not our George. Of course, what should we expect from him after Katrina?)
Nobody should want four more years of anything like this. It is an age typified by non-goverment and not caring about anybody. Obama at least shows signs of wanting to do something about inequity. I would very much expect efforts to bring the economy back up to speed. What are George and his ilk doing? Nothing.
Obama has nothing to do with Blago and his cronies. He has navigated remarkably well and is not tainted by the "Chicago way."
To answer your question: it's not what Obama has done for the country so much as what Bush - and McCain - haven't done and won't do for the country. If you like things the way they are - bad and getting worse - please do vote for the status quo. On the other hand, I hope that all who do so will forsake any benefits they might derive from an Obama administration.
Posted by: george watson | June 16, 2008 2:23 PM
I bet you had more to with these issue going awry than McCain.
I always seem to be in the minority I was against the Iraq war (first and second time and I served during the two and the previous IRAN/IRAQ war) but over 70% of the population and congress were in support.
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This is simply untrue. The country was divided in 2003 about the Iraq war but because the Bush administration felt that its 51% was 100% went ahead with the war even though nearly half the country was against it.
Congressmen, many of whom have changed their stances, because they, like many Americans, were taken in by false intelligence reports given out by the Bush Admin. Scott McClellan's book simply confirms the lying that went on. Many people seem incapable of believing that their president will lie to them. I lived through the Nixon years however and know better.
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You and Obama (if he actually ever does his job in the senate sub-committee he chairs or ever gets access to real intel) will find out that we are not leaving Iraq any time soon and when we do there will be a permanent foreign force there to support them as there is in many other post war countries.
************
This does not have to be. It is only the idea of McCain - and the Saudis and Israelis - whose interests we're protecting by being in Iraq.
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Your little swipes are inaccurate and disingenuous to say the least and the comments of an uniformed and immature mind.
You said - If you can't get enough of high gas prices and want the Iraq war to drag on for another 100 years, pray for McCain to win.
Posted by: Lisa Bessolini | June 16, 2008 2:03 PM
Signed - a 43 yr old father of two, husband business owner, educated, 15 year Navy veteran, mediocre tri-athlete, born and raised in Hyde Park (south side of Chicago) minority supporter of John McCain
Posted by: MinisterR
What does any of this, other than being educated, have to do with whether you can weigh the issue thoughtfully? That's what we as Americans must all also do. Indeed, as you point out, we should think more and talk less before we think.
Posted by: george watson | June 16, 2008 2:40 PM
McCain winning will be because the US isn't as ready for change as the Democrat's think/hope it is. Although Hillary was a long shot because of her being a woman, Obama is even more so because he's black. "Experience" notwithstanding, racism is the true demon the he needs to overcome. And it's a pretty big demon. McCain won't win because he's the better candidate (and yes, I have a bad feeling that indeed he will win), but because people can't/won't embrace all the change the Obama being president would represent.
Posted by: Freddy C | June 16, 2008 2:43 PM
Um Jeff, tell me, what do you know about Canada?
I happen to live in canada at the moment and these people couldnt be any more generous and humble than they already are. I kow most Americans - out of ignorance - believe Canada is a socialist country. Why? Because the have socialized medicine, which quite frankly seems to be working just fine. And one other point for you Jeff (and Heartburn Im sure) Canada has troops in Afghanistan helping that country towards democracy. Why? because Bush abandoned them for Iraq! Also, you might want to be nice towards your good neighbors to the north as they have the most natural fresh water in the world, that it appears America is going to need one day soon! So if you have any comments about Canada bring it on!
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | June 16, 2008 2:50 PM
To george watson | June 16, 2008 2:40 PM
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 107th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114 )
Vote Number: 237 Vote Date: October 11, 2002, 12:50 AM
Vote Result: Joint Resolution Passed
Measure Number: H.J.Res. 114
Measure Title: A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.
Vote Counts: YEAs 77
NAYs 23
A USA Today/Gallup Poll indicated that 75% of Americans felt the U.S. did not make a mistake in sending troops to Iraq in March 2003.
You said inaccurately This is simply untrue. The country was divided in 2003 about the Iraq war but because the Bush administration felt that its 51% was 100% went ahead with the war even though nearly half the country was against it.
Posted by: MinisterR | June 16, 2008 3:01 PM
To Dirty Sanchez:
Promise?
Please promise me, honey...
Posted by: Emily Gonzalo | June 16, 2008 3:23 PM
Can anyone explain or give a reason other than he has been campaigning why Obama has failed to do his job in the US Senate? This was his chance to "fix" what he claims is a broken America and broken American policy in SW Asia. This is his real experience not all the fluff that may never come to fruition.
How is that for unbiased fact
Doubts about Barack Obama's presidential credentials have crystallized ... over his stewardship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Subcommittee on European Affairs, which has convened no policy hearings since he took over as its chairman last January 2006
Ambassador John Ritch, who served for two decades as the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's senior staffer ... Ritch points out that as subcommittee chair, Obama could have examined a wide variety of urgent matters, from the role of NATO in Afghanistan and Iraq to European energy policy and European responses to climate change -- and of course, the undermining of the foundations of the Atlantic alliance by the Bush administration. There is, indeed, almost no issue of current global interest that would have fallen outside the subcommittee's purview.
Posted by: MinsiterR | June 16, 2008 3:25 PM
Todays comments from my wing-nut friends who live on the dead-end, right-wing St are amusing. I guess when your running "a proud liberal republican, conservative republican. Hello easy there." John McCain
Someone please help this old man figure out what he is, after all he's flip-flopped so many times even he can't remember what vacant ideology he supports. Is he the maverick of 2000 or the PANDER BEAR of 2008???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6fmyH_Yh2c&feature=user
Posted by: Anton Chigurh | June 16, 2008 3:33 PM
Of course American youth are disillusioned with hopeful news in the political arena. This is a generation that saw the election of Bush twice after reported "groundswells of support", particularly among youth, for the Democratic candidate. We spent a lot of time telling these kids that their vote was going to be what changed the face of politics, but as soon as the numbers came in they found out that it was business as usual after all.
Nothing makes a young person feel powerless faster than telling them they are in control and then yanking the rug out from onder them in the two elections they were old enough to vote in or experience.
As to the perception of victory, I could see that going either way. Being an underdog could rally the conservatives to the standard, even when they are less than thrilled with the candidate.
Then again the prospect of the idealistic candidate actually winning may make the real silent majority in this country, those who choose not to vote, suddenly take an interest like they haven't in years past.
I think this falls into the category of interesting but meaningless without further information
Posted by: Conn Buckley | June 16, 2008 7:56 PM
Here is another comment of mine that will not get in. This is to all the woman, and middle age voters. During the primary Obama didn't give a DA*N about us, he had his young voters, his college kids, and his blacks now that he needs us to win he is all over us. Keep this in mind when you go to the polls to vote in November, and pass up his name like he passed us up in the primaries. Let him see how far he will get with just his black vote and the vote of his young followers.
Posted by: RFB | June 16, 2008 9:17 PM
Polls are very very accurate. Remember the polls that had Kerry with a big lead over Bush just before the elections? Remember the gallop poll that had Kerry well over Bush? Ya, thats what polls are worth. A waste of time, money and brains.
Posted by: Tim | June 16, 2008 11:26 PM
are white americans going to choose the white just coz of the colour of the skin? are they not going choose black even if he is best?so we the peoples from yhe rest of the world will wait and see coz it is very very interesting game sooooooooo if american like they can kill the goose that lays the golden eggs
Posted by: kabiru maga | June 17, 2008 6:31 AM
When asked who is likely to win, the voter's response filters out their own intent. This is typical of decisions where racism and prejudice are the main drivers. This explains the apparent dichotomy of the polls.
It is regrettable that whites are not confronted by the press more insistently about this issue. Even though racism will install McCain in the White House it is unlikely that any analysis of some depth will ever happen. It will take the international press to do the post-mortem.
Posted by: Domingo Tavella | June 17, 2008 11:13 AM
ear Mr. Sanchez (I will be moving to Europe, etc)
Got news for you : you are not welcome in Europe . Europeans will go to sleep better knowing Obama will be the President and many Americans will go back to America, knowing that for the first time, they can be proud of being an American. so keep yourself at home. not welcome here.
Posted by: enn | June 20, 2008 3:15 PM
Most voters, it seems, are in a state of denial. Winning does not mean getting the most votes, it means getting the largest number of electors. Electors are determined primarily by rural districts, which are populated by mainly uneducated, racist whites. McCain can't possibly lose this one, regardless of what polls say.
Posted by: Domingo Tavella | June 20, 2008 6:18 PM
I do not have a problem with voting for a black man I just have a problem with all the news of his background as to religion, his use to be pastor and a lot of the words his wife has said that is my problem with obama
Posted by: bob | June 25, 2008 4:14 PM
Clearly american youth live in a hostile separatist time warp to this very day: contrary to all of the notions of midwestern Law Enforcement and others citing 10 years of hiphop "black face" these are truly damaged people who confuse the internet with the history of america... homophobic, racist and duplicitious they have used every silly device to spread this pathology worldwide just as my travel has revealed in a mulitiude of settings.
Posted by: r.k.j. | June 28, 2008 4:39 AM
McCain is old and tired.
Obama is fresh and he will win.
Posted by: Candy | July 10, 2008 5:10 PM
One may think Obama will win, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to vote for them. This poll is flawed because it skews the question. Had they asked who they think will win, and then asked who they'll vote for, I'm sure the poll would be taken more seriously by me.
IMO, McCain is going to be the next president, not because he's white, but because he's more qualified for the job, and that is a fact that all the libs will not acknowledge. Why the loony-left nominated a junior senator with little experience in the real world a shot at the presidency still confounds me.
I don't think America's going to buy Obama's empty rhetoric in November, and once again, we'll all have to hear the democrats whine for another 4 years. I hope that will show them that they cannot keep nominating these radical far-left democrats, because America is not going for it and they haven't for the past 8 years. The only reason Clinton won IMO is because he wasn't that far left, he was considered a moderate for the most part. That's what the dems need, not this socialist-marxist nominee.
Posted by: nitrain32 | July 11, 2008 6:50 PM
i am voting for obama . america does not want or need 4 more years of mc'bush .
Posted by: Luke | August 16, 2008 4:57 AM