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(Photo of Invesco Field from Invesco Field at Mile High website.)
by Doyle McManus
Gridiron fans, move over. The Obama campaign hopes to turn the last evening of the Democratic National Convention in Denver on Aug. 28 into a giant rally of voters in a football stadium.
The unusual move, confirmed by two sources, would be an echo of John F. Kennedy's acceptance speech in 1960. Kennedy delivered his address before thousands of supporters at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. Obama's big moment also would fall on the 45th anniversary of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech, delivered at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C.
The first three days of this year's convention are still scheduled to be held at downtown Denver's Pepsi Center, a basketball and hockey arena. But the Pepsi Center holds no more than about 19,000 people, and the Obama campaign thinks it can assemble a much bigger crowd for the acceptance speech -- making a more compelling television picture.
Invesco Field, home of the Denver Broncos pro football team, can seat more than 76,000.
Officials involved in planning the event said the challenge of filling the stadium didn't seem to be much of a worry for the Obamians, who attracted huge crowds during their primary campaign this spring. More worrisome, they said, were issues of logistics and security for all the Democratic dignitaries at the convention -- plus the possibility of afternoon thunderstorms in the open-air stadium.
The football stadium plan appears to be what officials had in mind when they said the Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee might shorten the party convention to three days instead of four.
Obama campaign officials didn't respond to requests for confirmation. Shannon Gilson, a spokeswoman for the campaign, told the Denver Post via e-mail simply: "We think Thursday night in Denver will be very special."

Comments
This guy is no John F. Kennedy, by a long shot. Oprahma, the great baloney slicer.
Posted by: therockofages | July 4, 2008 11:58 AM
This guy is no John F. Kennedy, by a long shot. Oprahma, the great baloney slicer.
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conversely, it would be wholly appropriate for mccain to accept the nomination in whatever manner george w. bush did ...
Posted by: Matthew RM | July 4, 2008 12:08 PM
Is that venue large enough to hold Obama's ego?
Posted by: Bemused | July 4, 2008 12:16 PM
therockofages: Seriously, I'm going to guess you're too old for childish goofs on candidate names. It's McCain and it's Obama. Grow up.
Posted by: Joes | July 4, 2008 12:17 PM
Bemused, the world is about to discover that it is not large enough to contain Obama's ego.
Posted by: JB | July 4, 2008 12:24 PM
Of course, it will echo JFK' speech since Obama's greatest strength is to poach other people's ideas. This man doesn't seem to be able to come up with anything original.
Posted by: Ryan | July 4, 2008 12:26 PM
There has not been as compelling a political figure in my generation. Everything about Sen. Obama's candidacy for president has been historic and unprecedented. This is a fitting way for him to accept the nomination for the presidency. It only makes sense.
Posted by: D.R. | July 4, 2008 12:39 PM
Might as well - he has no original ideas or thoughts anyway.
Posted by: Paul Frampton | July 4, 2008 12:40 PM
I guess the naysayers dont remember the scene in Oregon where 70+ lined up to hear him speak.
Deal with it. He's gonna be the next president of the United States.
Good riddence to the Republican nightmare.
Posted by: Ron | July 4, 2008 12:55 PM
Nothing's more unoriginal than putting someone down for being 'unoriginal.' You might as well say you just don't like the guy. But here's an original thought for you, since you're so hungry for one: "He who fills football stadiums, fills voting booths."
Posted by: Jonah | July 4, 2008 1:07 PM
Obama's arrogance and his supporters' fanatical devotion are indeed frightening. Instead of having well thought out plans to remedy all the messes we have in this country, Obama is determined to sell us a cult of personality. Canned speeches in front of thousands of adoring "fans" is less like a political convention and more like a scene from Hitler's Third Reich. America beware of this egomaniac!
Posted by: Marross | July 4, 2008 1:07 PM
This guy is doing his level best to be Kennedy-esque with one exception:
He is doing his level best to avoid any one on one confrontation, aka a series of debates, with McCain.
And there MUST be a reason.
Posted by: Terry | July 4, 2008 1:11 PM
Obama is the only hope for this country, how many more people must die? How many more people have to go bankrupt? How many more people have to lose their jobs and their dignity before anybody realizes that the Republicans are at fault? John McCain is a old, confused man who has no idea what he believes in anymore. Have you seen him on TV? It pains me to watch him embarrass himself. Do we really want another President who just does whatever the evil men around him tell him to do? If he's such a champion of environmental issues why has he voted against them repeatedly? Why, as a prisoner of war, is he against healthcare and benefits for veterans? Why does he want to fight a 100 year war that is bankrupting our nation and doing absolutely nothing except making a few evil men rich? Wake up America and get behind the only hope for our country.
Posted by: Chrissy | July 4, 2008 1:12 PM
Nasty, nasty....having lost the battle of ideas, McCain's supporters seem to be moving, in true Rovian fashion, to personal attacks. McCain (or is it Bush -- I always get the two confused) is left with the unenviable task of speaking about failed ideas to an uninspired party that is about to face a Landon-like electoral disaster...he'll be lucky if he can fill a junior high school multipurpose room for his acceptance speech. (Post election note to John McCain -- the spokesman job for Viagra has already been taken by Bob Dole, but Levitra may be looking for someone...)
Posted by: WeGo Ken | July 4, 2008 1:14 PM
Well, what can I say. It seems as if a few people here are afraid that Barack Obama's ego is an issue. As if any politico running for President of The United States could run without one. You have nothing to offer relative to his stands on issues and policies all you can do is make personal attacks? Well that tells me a lot more about you and the kind of person you are than anything about Obama. If you take the time to read his policy statements that are easily available on-line you might certainly disagree with them but don't pretend he doesn't have any. This is the politics of the old and the country is tired of it. Perhaps you have a hidden reason for your statements that you do not have the intestinal fortitude to publicly express? The usual tactic of the intellectually weak is to make personal attacks since they have nothing of substance to offer. It is likely that an event held at "Mile High Stadium" will be filled to capacity. If John McCain could fill a similar venue you don't think he would do it? Trolls!
Posted by: Picasso | July 4, 2008 1:17 PM
Oprahma? What, because one of a zillion celeb endorsers was a black TV host? That sounds a little, um, well, unreasonable, dont ya think?
In any case, what a great alternative we have in John McCain! He probably couldn't even find his way from the stadium dressing room to the field, based on recent instances of his mind's feebleness. It'd be like that scene from Spinal Tap... I'm still amazed he was the best the GOP had to offer.
Posted by: Doug D. | July 4, 2008 1:19 PM
Keep chirping all you haters - The McCain team and their followers use the same strategy - no good ideas, so just rip on Obama. Besides, McCain couldn't rev up a crowd of 50 people.
Posted by: YES | July 4, 2008 1:19 PM
You know... therockofages (false advertising), Bemused and JB et.al. bring to mind that, when you have nothing constructive to say and no answers for America's problems, you just turn childish and snarky. Just like the rest of the GOP.
Posted by: Dean | July 4, 2008 1:19 PM
Obama isn't a Kennedy. Neither is his wife. Neither of them has the experience that the Kennedy family has in business and government. McCain isn't much better, but at least he isn't pretending to be a member of the Kennedy family. HMMMMM, maybe that's why Obama wants Caroline Kennedy on his "pick the VP" staff .....
Posted by: kinda | July 4, 2008 1:28 PM
The bottom feeders are out today. Now it's an ego thing. Haven't they got any reasons to vote "for" McBush. What toads.
Posted by: bill r. | July 4, 2008 1:35 PM
Wow, several pro Obama comments in a row without the attacks from the right.
All pro Obama people: be pro active, take someone to the polling place who doesn't have a ride, convince a fence straddler that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Go Obama!
Posted by: Patrick Gequerdo | July 4, 2008 1:35 PM
The allusions to nazism should be a new logical fallacy and render all arguments using it ignorable in our discourse in the era of new politics
This idea of Obama fanaticism is so absurd. The excitement surrounding his campaign has less to do with the man himself than all of us think. I truly believe people are seeing the sum of 40 years of the right controlling the country's agenda. Carter and Clinton I do not consider anything more than centrists. People that believe in progressive ideas feel like this is thier first real opportunity to change the country, and therefore change the world.
Doesn't that sound like an exciting prospect? one that can rally millions of people to make their voices louder than they've ever been?
Our times have made it necessary for these people to be excited.
The true blind fanaticism is the hate and vitriol spewed on this comment board and similar outlets across the internet saying that the rise of the progressive movement is blind nazism. Which implies following blindly the ideals and actions of the Right that have gotten us to the situation we're in today. from 2001-2006 the Progessive movement was silenced by questioned patriotism, lack of representation, and being misinformed by those in control.
You darn right Obama supporters are excited. All of this damaged caused since the last real time of change, can end. just with enough of us speaking up and voting.
Posted by: keepitdark | July 4, 2008 1:37 PM
Nasty, nasty....having lost the battle of ideas, McCain's supporters seem to be moving, in true Rovian fashion, to personal attacks. McCain (or is it Bush -- I always get the two confused) is left with the unenviable task of speaking about failed ideas to an uninspired party that is about to face a Landon-like electoral disaster...he'll be lucky if he can fill a junior high school multipurpose room for his acceptance speech. (Post election note to John McCain -- the spokesman job for Viagra has already been taken by Bob Dole, but Levitra may be looking for someone...)
Posted by: WeGo Ken | July 4, 2008 1:56 PM
D.R. Either you are joking or you need to be detoxed from Obama. You are way over the top. He is just a normal man, I take that back, sub-normal man. Get a life.
Posted by: RFB | July 4, 2008 2:00 PM
Jonah, here is an original idea. 76,000 people at a stadium is just a drop in the bucket in a country with over 360 million people. You figure it out. Better yet here I go 360 million about half of those equals 180 million voters. That's about 4.2% of the voting population of this country. If that is all he can come up with, goodby Obam.
Posted by: RFB | July 4, 2008 2:08 PM
I am SO tired of the hate that the righties spew. Now McCain is filling his campaign with little Rove wannabes so that even more hate and fear can be generated. Have they noticed that there's almost no way to attack Obama personally? No, he's not perfect, but he's a huge improvement over what we have and what the Repubs are trying to foist on us. Let's get our country back. McCain supporters--do you REALLY want 4 more years of watching our country go into the toilet?
Posted by: Laraine | July 4, 2008 2:10 PM
We go Ken, if you are that confused, maybe you should stay away for the polls. You may end up voting for Michelle, you know their last names are spelled the same.
Posted by: RFB | July 4, 2008 2:11 PM
Picasso, sorry to disappoint you, but his stand on issues were copied from someone else. Not his!
Posted by: RFB | July 4, 2008 2:13 PM
The economy is going to suck till about 2011. Whoever wins is going to have the opposite party stating "The economy was lousy under...". The reality is that Greenpunk and the FOMC saturated the credit markets causing the Tech Boom and Housing Boom. Now that the markets are correcting themselves, Bush and Obama/McCain are screwed with a lousy economy. Both parties are screwed no matter who wins. McCain must be a real patriot to want to ride out this storm. Hillary and Obama made their point, but its really ok if they lose. The NEXT presidency will be the one to win, because the economy will be corrected and whoever wins can spin that they made the economy better....have fun over the next 3 years my unemployed libtards and neo-cons!
Posted by: Joe | July 4, 2008 2:15 PM
"Everything about Sen. Obama's candidacy for president has been historic and unprecedented."
LOL, sorry kid, there is NOTHING historic or unprecedented in the political rise of Barack Obama other than his ability to bamboozle the masses into believing that he is not a stereotypical ego maniac politician who will do and say absolutely ANYTHING and throw anyone or any group (be they foes or supporters) under the bus to win an election.
Grow up and Wake up.
By the way, who is going to be opening for him this time so he can fill the stadium to capacity?
Posted by: ainnj | July 4, 2008 2:16 PM
Rumor is Ted Kennedy is going to introduce Obama. Will Ted call him "Osama Obama" this time, like he did in the Senate?
Posted by: Trunk | July 4, 2008 2:34 PM
Back in the olden days they called me a Maverick, I tell ya...
Now, GET OFF MY LAWN!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvpUqjXiTqA&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/4/85450/97510/694/546454
Posted by: OBAMA 08! | July 4, 2008 2:35 PM
RFB--Seriously, why would you vote for McCain? What ideas does he have that draw you? I'm not being snide, I truly don't understand why any American wants to continue the Bush policies. Any McCain supporters out there who want to talk about their candidate?
Posted by: Laraine | July 4, 2008 2:41 PM
-He's old
-He can hardly string a sentence together
-He's flip-flopped on vertually every issue he has
-He's so desperate that he recently hired Karl Rove
...but the man can still play a wicked guitar solo:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rOF-j1L0vE
Posted by: Barack and Roll | July 4, 2008 2:42 PM
Very smart move.
No doubt he could fill it twice over. He drew a crowd of 100,000 the night before the Indiana(!) primary.
He will draw Lindbergh size crowds in Europe if that trip is still on.
Repubbies, where did you go wrong?
How come your guy has trouble drawing dozens to his rallies, let alone tens of thousands?
Posted by: ornery | July 4, 2008 2:44 PM
What concertwill be held and will there be free beer ? Then Obama will rock the stadium. In Oregon they had a rock concert before Obamas speech , yet Obamas people keep telling people that 70,000 people came just to hear Obama. Illusions of grandeur run deep in the Obama campaign..too too funny !!!
Posted by: jimbo | July 4, 2008 2:47 PM
I'm sure Grandpa McCain will follow this up by doing his own stadium college tour:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IEcO82_2TY
Posted by: Obamamania | July 4, 2008 2:59 PM
I find it quite sad, and not unexpected, that Obama supporters are so outraged that their candidate might take a bit of kidding, but Obama people are outright nasty when it comes to personal attacks on McCain. As a real progressive and liberal, I abhor racism, sexism, homophobia, religious intolerance, and ageism. Obama supporters seem only to mind racism. Hey, all of you "change we have been waiting for" generation, you're the single biggest reason that so many are so turned off of Obama. Now go back to your parents' barbeque. Celebrate Independence Day - celebrate the diversity of ideas in America.
Posted by: Bemused | July 4, 2008 3:10 PM
Sen. Obama, was until last week, the definitive candidate of choice. There was a clear difference between his beliefs and those of the Republican candidate Sen. McCain. That was last week.
Last week Sen. Obama managed to alienate liberal and conservative Democrats by supporting Faith Based incentives, supporting the FISA Bill (one of the reasons for impeachment of our present President) and is calling for an increase in troop strength. As a liberal Democrat, this was a sickening blow which left me feeling betrayed and embarrassed.
Sen. Obama has been praised as a modern day JFK, or Bobby Kennedy; however, the comparison pales when you consider the time in our nations history and the circumstances that made those men great. JFK was elected versus Richard Nixon and praise the nation for making that choice; history tells us why. Bobby Kennedy was a true patriot, he was adamant about wiping out organized crime and cleaning up a government which became progressively corrupt and uncontrollable and he was clearly going to end the war in Vietnam. We will never know if he would have been successful.
Obama has promised basically the same things, clean up government, give America its respect back and end the war in Iraq. But now we see a different Obama that we didn't see in the Primaries. We see an Obama that will probably will become the next President, but will he do what he says? He's changed his position on several planks, planks of his campaign that make many in the Democratic party wonder if we really have the best candidate in this election.
This doesn't mean I'm running with open arms to Sen. McCain, I find him repulsive. I refuse to use the term “Flip-Flop” because it's a media term that softens the real meaning that a person cannot tell the truth, or tell the difference between right and wrong. Sen. McCain' had a great opportunity last week to agree with rather than scorn Gen. Clark. Clark's statements were not wrong and they were not flippant. I speak with authority when I say that no military man or women deserves public office because of injury, imprisonment or service...good or bad. It's not a qualification and if it were then we could criticize, but it's not.
My disappointment is insignificant, I'm just one voter. I'm one voter that has little to do in the next election than to select a candidate that least offends and that sadly is not what I was hoping for. I'm tempted to not vote, hoping that there would be enough jokers out there to vote for Mickey Mouse or as one comedian put it...”none of the above.”
Posted by: Ahsay - Tennessee | July 4, 2008 3:21 PM
Jimbo:
You don't know what you are talking about.
Yes, there was a local alternative band (still don't remember their name) that played a few songs for the beginning crowd as they filtered in to see Obama in Portland, Oregon.
After this band finished playing, however, people did not leave, but tens of thousands more entered. In fact there were so many people lined up to see Obama that thousands didn't even get in until the end of Obama's speech - and had to stand on the outskirts - because it took literally hours to get everyone in.
I was there, at the entrance/exit. Believe me, people did not come to see a "rock concert" - they came to see Obama. Do you even know the name of the group that played before the majority of the crowd was even there? I was there, and I don't.
If Bruce Springsteen had played you might have an argument. With this unknown (even to locals) group, however, you are way off base.
Posted by: Nancy from Portland | July 4, 2008 3:23 PM
Wow! This guy Obama is great. The convention is going to be a moment to remember.
Posted by: KEn | July 4, 2008 3:48 PM
Albert Einstein once said:"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."Einstein encountered opposition throughout his life. Beginning with the close-minded Nazi’s in Germany where he was born. The quote is appropriate. Obama is a good person with a "Great spirit" - no wonder small-minded people dislike him so much.
Posted by: dmga | July 4, 2008 3:57 PM
so many are so turned off of Obama. Now go back to your parents' barbeque. Celebrate Independence Day - celebrate the diversity of ideas in America.
Posted by: Bemused | July 4, 2008 3:10 PM
I've followed your posts for months and you're not a democrat you're a Republican "concern troll".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1382185
Get lost you hack!
Posted by: liar liar | July 4, 2008 4:00 PM
Ah the bitter tears of the Obama haters are sweet.
Crying because President Obama is going to give a glorious speech in front of tens of thousands (and no that is not a goof on my part)
Posted by: axt113 | July 4, 2008 4:14 PM
How very appropriate for Oprahma to be crowned in a venue named for an investment banking firm. He's all about money, after all. Just ask Tony Rezko. Ask Nadhmi Auchi. Ask the Oil Industry. Ask Agribusiness...
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 4:19 PM
Get all the hate out you Bushies. It's going to be a bad 4 months for you, so don't carry your anger inside. You'll be so frustrated you need to vent all you can.
Come to think of it, you GOP folks are going to have a bad 4 years!
Posted by: strut2k | July 4, 2008 4:24 PM
Could he BE any more arrogant? JFK... Yeah, get a life B. Hussein O!
Posted by: Mike | July 4, 2008 4:32 PM
Posted by: dmga | July 4, 2008 3:57 PM
Obamabot,
Now you're comparing Oprahma to Einstein hounded by Nazis?! It's no wonder that nobody takes you drones seriously.
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 4:34 PM
How very appropriate for Oprahma to be crowned in a venue named for an investment banking firm. He's all about money, after all. Just ask Tony Rezko. Ask Nadhmi Auchi. Ask the Oil Industry. Ask Agribusiness...
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 4:19 PM
No matter what post name you choose to use you always come with the weakest argument possible.
Here's a tip, the next time you Repuglicans pick a candidate, pick one that isn't fully owned by lobbyists and special interest groups like McBush is, ok?
"Why on earth would John McCain think Phil Gramm was remotely appropriate to be his economic adviser"?
"Because McCain knows nothing about economics. And just like his "pick a winner" foreign policy hodge podge, it's all about who might have a "reputation" among his pals who...quite coincidentally, I'm sure...also happen to be lobbyists for the very same industries would help to shape policy in a McCain Administration".
Cozy, isn't it? It clearly is for Phil Gramm. But it gets even cozier when you peek below the surface.
Think your energy bills are high now?
Meet Phil Graham, Enron's Senator from Texas, who makes self-dealing for pals and cronies a family affair:
"The one person in the Enron scandal whom congress is not likely to subpoena is its own revered Phil Gramm, the retiring Republican Senator from Texas. Gramm and his wife, Wendy, have tight links to Enron, Wendy being a director and Gramm the pusher of legislation that assisted the company during its troubles last year...."
http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/mccains-cronies-phil-gramm-r-enron-and-his-ubs-lobbying-problem/
Posted by: JedReport | July 4, 2008 4:38 PM
It would be quite embarrassing for Obama if the stadium turned out to be only partially filled. What a "compelling television picture" that would make. So there is an element of risk in choosing such a large venue. Obama's massive ego could be deflated, and his supporters disappointed, if high expectations such as filling an NFL stadium are not met.
Posted by: Mike D. | July 4, 2008 4:40 PM
Posted by: OBAMA 08! | July 4, 2008 2:35 PM
Posted by: Barack and Roll | July 4, 2008 2:42 PM
Posted by: Obamamania | July 4, 2008 2:59 PM
Etc, etc, etc...
John E
Nobody is fooled when you copy and paste the same unoriginal ideas, using the same phraseology and the same YouTube links. Sorry, blubber head. Nobody thinks that you are a groundswell.
Posted by: The Outer | July 4, 2008 4:42 PM
How very appropriate for Oprahma to be crowned in a venue named for an investment banking firm. He's all about money, after all. Just ask Tony Rezko. Ask Nadhmi Auchi. Ask the Oil Industry. Ask Agribusiness...
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 4:19 PM
No matter what post name you choose to use you always come with the weakest argument possible.
Here's a tip, the next time you Repuglicans pick a candidate, pick one that isn't fully owned by lobbyists and special interest groups like McBush is, ok?
"Why on earth would John McCain think Phil Gramm was remotely appropriate to be his economic adviser"?
"Because McCain knows nothing about economics. And just like his "pick a winner" foreign policy hodge podge, it's all about who might have a "reputation" among his pals who...quite coincidentally, I'm sure...also happen to be lobbyists for the very same industries would help to shape policy in a McCain Administration".
Cozy, isn't it? It clearly is for Phil Gramm. But it gets even cozier when you peek below the surface.
Think your energy bills are high now?
Meet Phil Graham, Enron's Senator from Texas, who makes self-dealing for pals and cronies a family affair:
"The one person in the Enron scandal whom congress is not likely to subpoena is its own revered Phil Gramm, the retiring Republican Senator from Texas. Gramm and his wife, Wendy, have tight links to Enron, Wendy being a director and Gramm the pusher of legislation that assisted the company during its troubles last year...."
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http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/mccains-cronies-phil-gramm-r-enron-and-his-ubs-lobbying-problem
Posted by: JedReport | July 4, 2008 4:50 PM
Bush has blood on his hands and if you voted for Bush, especially the second time, so do you. The blood of 4,000+ American soldiers and 100,000+ Iraqis are your responsibility. I'm not surprised that you criticize Obama who opposed the war and wants to stop the killing. You enjoy it too much. It's time for Republicans to stop acting as if they value human and begin to value human life. Or maybe just go out and kill a fellow Republican which would be an act of patriotism after the last 8 years.
Posted by: dawg | July 4, 2008 5:02 PM
So there is an element of risk in choosing such a large venue. Obama's massive ego could be deflated, and his supporters disappointed, if high expectations such as filling an NFL stadium are not met.
Posted by: Mike D. | July 4, 2008 4:40 PM
Maybe you should quit "concern trolling" about Obama and start trying to figure it how John McBush is going to ever fill out anything more than a small high school gym:
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http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/InsultComicDog/?action=view¤t=McCain.gif
Posted by: McCain = Third Term of Bush | July 4, 2008 5:03 PM
Not to be tedious, but we still don't have an answer from any Repub on why John's their man. "..full of sound and fury--signifying nothing."
Posted by: Laraine | July 4, 2008 5:19 PM
"No matter what post name you choose to use you always come with the weakest argument possible."
Posted by: JedReport | July 4, 2008 4:38 PM
"Jedreport",
Unlike you, it seems, I only use one postname -- MJ -- except on the rare occasions when I post a joke.
Secondly I noticed that absolutely nothing in your incoherant screed DEFENDS OBAMA! That's because you simply can't. Which leads to...
Thirdly there is nothing "weak" about my arguments at all. They're very well documented. Obama is a corrupt Chicago Machine hack, bought and paid for by large corporate interests. Here are 2 links for you. I can post many more if you want to be further embarrassed.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/184540,122306obama.article
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/aug/21/Obama-lobby/
Posted by: MJ and nobody else | July 4, 2008 5:26 PM
Mom said if I copy and paste lotsa stuff from DailyKos people will think I'm smart. I don't understand the stuff but I copy and paste anyway.
Mom said if I copy and paste YouTube and photobucket links people will think I'm clever and funny. I don't understand them but I copy and paste anyway.
Mom said if I change my post name every time nobody will know it's always me. Tee-hee-hee!
copy and paste, copy and paste, copy and paste...
Posted by: JE | July 4, 2008 5:36 PM
- The economy in a tailspin
- The price of oil the highest it has ever been (with TWO oil men in the top two governmental positions of power-how strange a coincidence)
- A war waged against a nation that had nothing to do with, well anything, whilst the STATED enemy is pursued with only a skeletal force
- A housing crisis that was allowed to happen under the watch of the current administration....with no adjustment to the laws governing such transactions
So what do all those who knock Obama have to offer? What is listed above is a small sample of what the right has to offer as its list of 'accomplishments' of the last eight years. There is nothing wrong with disliking a candidate; however offer a tangible idea instead of empty rhetoric and simple-minded name-calling.
Posted by: Its TIme for something else | July 4, 2008 5:48 PM
McBush will be lucky to fill a locker room. Cracks me up when you see him give speeches on T.V. I think my 5th grade class had more attendee's and I went to a real small grade school. Yep, I'm sure going to miss oh Bushies photo ops giving his speeches at a Hanger or some other military installation. He never did those walks amongst the people like on Mainstreet Anywhere, USA like Clinton did so many times.
It will be nice to have a President who will work for us instead of Big Oil or other Corporate interest...
OBAMA in 08!
Posted by: David Myers | July 4, 2008 6:05 PM
Posted by: Its TIme for something else | July 4, 2008 5:48 PM
Glad you brought up the matter of housing. Here's an interesting read for you:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 6:20 PM
Cmon' Mark, post my response to that clown racist MJ's post...
Posted by: John E | July 4, 2008 6:55 PM
Obama should not count his chickens before they are even hatched. The SUPERDELEGATES still have time to come to their senses and nominate HRC. Obama will never win this Presidency without her...HRC 08' . I am sick of his comparisions to JFK. It is an insult to JFK...Same with Michelle to Jacquline Kennedy..Let's cut the drama America..Obama has not earned anything yet...So far just rhetoric and it is getting boring ...........
Posted by: kaye c. | July 4, 2008 7:15 PM
John McCain Debates Himself on Supporting Bush:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg
Posted by: JM | July 4, 2008 7:31 PM
Chrissy, many people have died to make this country great, and safe for all of us!
Those who go bankrupt must take responsibility for themselves, it isn't the governments fault.
As far as how many more will have to lose their jobs? Thank the greedy corporations in this country for sending American jobs to other countries, at the expense of American workers. This didn't just start in the past 8 years, it has been on-going for many years through both democrat and republican terms!
If obama is our only hope, I really have fears for this country and for the American people. I don't want a president who has NO experience. I don't want a president who admits in his own book that a communist was his mentor. I don't want a president who has muslim leanings. I don't want a president who, in a video, declared that he has visited 57 states while campaigning. I thought, my God, doesn't this man know there are only 50 states. But then I read that there are 57 Islamic states, guess he was confused as to his audience.
obama will be a total disaster if elected. I'll take McCain any day over the smarmy obama.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 4, 2008 7:53 PM
Cmon' Mark, post my response to that clown racist MJ's post...
Posted by: John E | July 4, 2008 6:55 PM
When have I ever made a racist statement? Cite one example. Just one.
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 7:56 PM
Over the weekend, Senator McCain said, "this election is about trust and trusting people's word and, unfortunately, apparently on several items, Senator Obama's word cannot be trusted."
Ummmm..Johnny baby...are ya sitting down? Here's a few of your own words that lead all of us to distrust you overwhelmingly, every day! You're an embarrassment to yourself, McSame! This is the age of the "Internet(s)" and "the" Youtube using Bushian malaprops. We've got you on record, McFlip/Flop! Facts are just silly things that get in your way...ehhh, McSame?
Gentlemen and Gentleladies...start your engines:
Signing of the GI Bill: McCain is now enthusiastically for it... after it passed. Previously attacked the Webb Bill. Didn't even bother to vote on it.
Campaign reform: On political reform, McCain last January opposed a grassroots lobbying bill he once supported. In 2006, the "New York Sun" reported that his presidential ambitions led McCain to reverse his support of a campaign financial bill called McCain/Feingold.
Alien Minors Act/Immigration: Last October McCain said he would vote against the development, relief and education for Alien Miners Act that he co-sponsored, and then said he would vote against an immigration bill that he introduced.
Gay Marriage: In 2006, McCain said on "HARDBALL," quote, I think that gay marriage should be allowed. Then after the commercial break he added, I do not believe that gay marriages should be legal.
Abortion: On abortion, 1999,McCain publicly supporting Roe v. Wade, privately opposing it in a letter to the National Right to Life Committee. In the 2000 debates, he would change the GOP platform to permit exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother. May 2007, "flipped", ABCNews.com reported.
Nuclear Waste: No Storing Nuclear waste at Yucca mountain earlier..McCain has now flipped
Negotiating with Kim Jong-Il: McCain said Negotiating with Kim Jong-Il not acceptable until President Bush did it last week.
Negotiating with Cuba/Castro: McCain said no negotiating With Fidel Castro is acceptable in 2000, in 2008 he flipped
Negotiating with Hamas/Terrorists: ...with terrorists appropriate when Colin Powell went to Syria and in 2006 when McCain said sooner or later well talk to Hamas, but not appropriate now re: Obama's willingness to use diplomacy.
Pakistan: Unilateral action against suspected terrorists in Pakistan; "Confused leadership" when Obama suggested it, not when Bush did it, McCain supported Bush
Warrantless Wire-taps: Six months ago, presidents had to obey the law, not anymore and McCain supports this
Torture: Torture detainees, no way, except for the CIA. Hold them indefinitely, McCain disagreed with this in 2003, says it's the right move in 2008.
Iraq War: The Iraq war, McCain says Bush/Rumsfeld are on the right course 2004, stayed the course with them 2005. Today, McCain say he has always been a Rumsfeld/Bush war critic.
Tax Cuts: In 2001, McCain could not in good conscious support them. In 2008 McCain supports them.
Estate Tax: 2006, "I agree with President Roosevelt who created it". In 2008, McCain calls the estate tax "most unfair" to rich people
Balanced Budget: In February 08, McCain promised a balanced budget in four years, In April 08 he changed it to eight years..
Windfall Profits Tax: In May 08, McCain was glad to look at the windfall profits tax. By June 08, McCain said that was Jimmy Carter's idea not his.
Offshore Drilling: In 2000, McCain said no new off shore drilling. Last month, McCain said it would take years to develop. This month, McCain says it would be very helpful in the short term.
Coyotes..Bush Big Time Fund Raisers: The Bush fund-raisers- McCain called them coyotes who were breaking the law in 2000. By 2006, these "law breakers were co-chairing McCain's fundraisers.
"Agents of Intolerance": McCain called his buddy Jerry Falwell...an "agent of intolerance in 2000". In 2007, McCain was a featured speaker/guest at Falwell's intolerant university.... The Reverend Hagee and Parsley were in as McCainiac's, then they were fired as McCainiac's just this year alone.
Martin Luther King Holiday: In 1983, McCain opposed Martin Luther King Day. Today, while running for President, he's all for it.
Confederate Flag: In 2000, McCain defended South Carolina's confederate flag as a symbol of heritage. Two years later, McCain flipped, calling it, quote, an act of political cowardice not to say the flag should come down. Quote, "everybody said, look out. You can't win in South Carolina if you say that."
Posted by: NJ | July 4, 2008 7:58 PM
Why the hell isn't my responce to MJ's post being posted at 6:20? What the HELL is wrong with it?
THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: JedReport | July 4, 2008 8:05 PM
Calm down John E. You're going to burnout your exclamation mark key.
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 8:13 PM
You know, everytime your good friend "MJ" posts that Obama is arrogant of egotistical it is code from the rightwing that Obama is a scary black man and don't vote for him and fucking MJ does this time and time again under various post names and yet you let that little piece of shit continue to get stuff posted on here while blocking all the good responses to him??!?!
Posted by: John E | July 4, 2008 8:18 PM
Filling a stadium with Democrats is a good idea. Crime, pollution and foul odors will decrease elsewhere in the city.
Posted by: sangell | July 4, 2008 8:25 PM
Posted by: John E | July 4, 2008 8:18 PM
Well you sure made one of us look stupid, didn't you?
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 8:56 PM
I guess it will be paid for out of his Presidential Campaign Funds that he flip-flopped for, instead being paid by the DNC that he is destroying. Did the DNC run out of money to pay for the whole convention? I guess donations are down.
Posted by: Not Fooled | July 4, 2008 9:43 PM
John McCain has famously said that he would rather lose an election than lose a war. He seemingly sacrificed his Presidential ambitions in favor of our national interest.
In Barack Obama, it seems that we have the converse. He had declared the war lost and withdrawal an imperative when it was politically expedient. Now it seems that the reality on the ground (both polling in the US and the security in Iraq, in that order) has shifted, and Barack Obama is about to change his position.
Where John McCain put the war above his election, Barack Obama puts the election above the war, and everything else.
The lesson here is that Barack Obama is willing to sacrifice anything and everything for his political ambitions. No friend is too close, no promise so (seemingly) heartfelt, no principle so great will get in the way of his election.
Posted by: Jeff | July 4, 2008 10:36 PM
Are John E. stark raving rants typical of all Obama supporters? I was the one who brought up Obama's ego, not MJ. As I recall, John E. and other Obama supporters accused Hillary of having an oversized ego. I don't recall how that would be equated to racism. And now calling Obama an egomaniac is racist. The fact that one can't criticize Obama without being called racists is exactly why he shouldn't be president. It's very American to criticize our leaders. To try to stifle dissent through playing the race card, while a favorite trick of Obama and his crowd, is a sickening perversion of our democracy. This Democrat will never support a crypto-facist cult of personality that is team Obama.
Posted by: Bemused | July 4, 2008 11:22 PM
McCain or McCane?
McCane has had more plastic surgery than any other presidential candidate in the history of the US.He's so old that in the next few years, he'll need a McWalker and then a McWheelchair.A young buck like Obama is what this nation needs!! New thinking. Not a bridge to past failed policies, a bridge to the future and Hope for tomorrow!!http://bush-mccain08.com/images/bush-mccain-hug.jpg
Posted by: jth20 | July 5, 2008 12:06 AM
Your right Obama is a God. Let's here it now Obama is a God. All liberals get down on your knees and say Obama is a God. Everyone who thinks there will be no new or high increases in taxes say Obama is a God. To all those that say Obama will make peace in Iraq, Iran, and all over the planet earth say now Obama is a God. To all those that think Obama will reduce unemployment in the U.S. to zero say Obama is a God. To all those who dislike and put down people who do not like Obama say after me Obama is a God. To those that know Obama will bring the races together say Obama is a God. To those that know that the media has favored Obama say now Obama is a God. Lastly for all the blacks who will vote for Obama because he is black say now that Obama is a black God.
Posted by: Clarence | July 5, 2008 12:31 AM
The televent will look and sound exactly like JFK's speech. Ted Sorenson is writing BO's speeches just as he wrote JFK's (in addition to ghost writing Profiles in Courage), and has already written BO's inauguration speech. BO has obviously scrutinized every film archive of JFK in order to mimic his mannerisms, voice patterns, facial expressions...he just can't mimic the Boston accent. BO has already spoken about "a new generation" of Americans" and what he feels they should do for their country. Deja vu all over again.
Posted by: Sharon | July 5, 2008 12:33 AM
This is a bad idea. Colorado in August is guaranteed rain during the afternoon. Obama should think twice before he does this at an open aired stadium.
Posted by: John | July 5, 2008 1:05 AM
Football stadium to accept the nomination. A closet could certainly contain all of his discernible accomplishments, again, if we exclude "great speeches" as discernible accomplishments.
Posted by: Hamlet | July 5, 2008 1:54 AM
Please, can not compare John F. Kennedy with Obamablablabla,
Kennedy was president and special politician.
- Everyone knows who was Kennedy, nobody really knows who is Obama.
- Kennedy was a Catholic (Christian 100%), nobody believe Obama christian,his mentor is a religious fraud.
- Kennedy spoke in his own words, Obama always copy the speech of others and not with their own words
- Kennedy had a wife who was proud of his country, was a special woman to a man special. Obama has a wife who just now is proud of their country and she isn't for anything special.
- Kennedy was and will be unique, no one will be like him. Obama wants to copy Kennedy and nobody knows what he really wants to do for USA.
Stop, end this parallelism Kennedy - Obama, this is a disrespect to the memory of one of the most beloved presidents in U.S. and around the world
Posted by: Nuccia | July 5, 2008 5:58 AM
Ta Da!
Rumor has it that Axelrod Productions will have Sen. Obama SYNCHLIP JFKennedy's Nomination Acceptance Speech too!
Posted by: concerned | July 5, 2008 7:49 AM
Hussein Obama is what he is - an empty suit!
Posted by: brigitte | July 5, 2008 9:50 AM
Creepy...Creepy...and Creepy! Yeah...this move has all the flare of another egomaniac - Adolph Hitler!! BEWARE AMERICA!
Posted by: NOBAMA | July 5, 2008 10:12 AM
This is sickening.....Obama is so full of himself...
Posted by: DAWN | July 5, 2008 10:44 AM
What an insult to the Broncos. I mean the football team, not he horses who know how to avoid manure piles.
Posted by: Chuck | July 5, 2008 11:24 AM
Yeah Obama is just TERRIFIED to debate the sharpest of all sharpies, John McCain. Television debates were admittedly not Obama's strong point going into the primaries, but he's better now and after holding his own against Hillary, a great debater, I'm guessing he'll mop the floor McFused.
Posted by: Brad Burklow | July 5, 2008 11:25 AM
The comment by "Nobama" about the huge Hitler rallies with tens of thousands out brings to mind the humongous crowds for Castro. It's hard to imagine Obama wanting to duplicate such images. Filling stadiums is not hard; it's done every fall at colleges and later in every bowl from soup to cheese snack sponsors. Add free beer and pizza and shazam! But the Hitler/Castro images are inescapable...and disturbing.
Posted by: Pietra | July 5, 2008 11:35 AM
He. is sooo sickening.
His head has become so big but still empty he can't even agree to a townhall debate with McCain. Now he wants his cult followers in that venue. Wake up america - he is not the messiah!!!
Posted by: ynnepsocal | July 5, 2008 11:39 AM
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
And I'm a lifelong Democrat.
Posted by: yuck | July 5, 2008 11:57 AM
Obama haters need to temper your language because you're falling off a cliff and you're inspiring the nuttiest among us to desperation. Many of us are enthusiastically anticipating Obama's speech at the convention and hoping that he's our next president. As far as I can tell, McCain doesn't have an overarching vision for America. Obama's vision is clear but you'd have to be inclined to see it.
Posted by: Olga | July 5, 2008 12:09 PM
Leni Riefenstahl the film maker and producer of Hitler's Nazi Party rallies in Nuremburg would be proud of the DNC and Obama for their imitation of her and Dr, Joseph Goebbel's work!!
Mass rallies at night with banners and search lights and teenagers Hitler would proud of Obama!!
Posted by: lboucher | July 5, 2008 12:12 PM
It's astounding that anyone would compare a Presidential candidate to Hitler. What is the matter with you people? Disagree on the issues, disagree on the personalities. That's what democracy is all about. But to compare Senator Obama to a man responsible for the deaths of millions is a disgrace. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted by: TMW | July 5, 2008 12:40 PM
Posted by: concerned | July 5, 2008 7:49 AM
Posted by: brigitte | July 5, 2008 9:50 AM
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Posted by: DAWN | July 5, 2008 10:44 AM
concerned + brigitte + NOBAMA + DAWN = MJ
Posted by: The outer | July 5, 2008 12:54 PM
Posted by: John E | July 4, 2008 8:18 PM
Well you sure made one of us look stupid, didn't you?
Posted by: MJ | July 4, 2008 8:56 PM
Yes, you certainly do look stupid and you were never going to vote for Obama from the moment you found out what color of skin he has.
Posted by: John E | July 5, 2008 12:57 PM
GET A LIFE PEOPLE !!
How could you complain about allowing as many people as possible to see his speech.........WOW! Trust me, if Senator Mccain could do it, he would(and you'd think it was a great idea).
I have no problem debating issues, however, this is a NON-ISSUE!
For all you Senator Obama Haters, you are doing your candidate no favors by showing your ignorance in this matter.
Bottom Line, in the words of President Reagan , " Is America better off than it was 4 years ago?" If yes than vote for Senator Mccain, if no then vote for Senator Obama(period, full stop!).
Posted by: Kent | July 5, 2008 1:10 PM
For all you obama supporters who think he will pull all the troops out of Iraq are really gullible. He's changed his opinions on it dozens of times...saying the troops are coming home on his first day in office...too three months later...to 12 months...now to 16 months..seems like he is an ordinary politician who will say anything to get elected.
Especially since we are now winning the war against terror.
But what do I know I am just one of those idiots from Pennsylvania that "clings to guns and religion and am bitter about this" great country we live in.
Posted by: Truth About BHO | July 5, 2008 1:33 PM
Wow. This guy is clearly all "show". Let's try and portay that EVREYONE loves his by putting on a big spectable.
Just like the "big" speech in Oregon during the primary...yet those people were there for an outside CONCERT.
If he's so loved, why is he so close in polls to McCain? Too funny.
hellnobama.com
Posted by: Jane99 | July 5, 2008 1:33 PM
ainnj: LOL! My thoughts exactly: "historic and unprecedented" indeed! The Obots have gotten alot of mileage out of the media scenes of mass crowds...even though these crowds did not translate into overwhelming votes for "he who's middle name cannot be named." I suppose they are hoping this strategy will persuade the 46% diehard HRC voters who will not vote for him to come over to the dark side. Like you, I am wondering who the opening band will be....
Posted by: pumas.are.gathering | July 5, 2008 1:33 PM
Choosing between McBush & Barack is analogous to comparing a rotary dial desk telephone to an Apple i-phone. McBush is an ancient warmonger that should be tossed into the dust bin of history whereas Barack is the visionary leader that the world so deperately needs.
Posted by: shiva8 | July 5, 2008 1:46 PM
Just as "parking Nazis" and "soup Nazis" diminish the historic criminality of Hitler and the Nazis, so too does making that comparison to comparing ANY American. Those who do so insult the veterans and war dead of WWII who faced a real and vicious enemy.
We would all do well to think of our political opponents as the loyal opposition -- people who want good for America, though not in the same way we do.
Posted by: just pixels | July 5, 2008 1:59 PM
The thing that makes me nervous about Obama is his followers' fanatical devotion. Women cry in his presence, and men get all starry eyed. It makes me wonder what his followers would do, or worse, how bad Obama would have to be to convince his followers that he won't be a good president. Kill a guy? I don't know.
Someone made a Hitler/Obama comparison earlier. That's not fair, but I they have two things in common: a fanatical following and stadium rallies. And, we should be wary of any movement or person that can inspire those sort of things.
Posted by: N Ealy | July 5, 2008 2:20 PM
Republicans are discouraged after 8 years of Bush policies.
Democrats are excited about the possibility of real change.
That is the reason for the difference in enthusiasm for McCain and Obama.
Posted by: Mike S | July 5, 2008 2:39 PM
I continue to hope that my Republican friends can somehow pull themselves out of the rut hole of low expectations they have created for themselves and truly recognize someone as special as Barack Obama. Otherwise, it will be a long eight years for them.
Posted by: David Odell | July 5, 2008 2:46 PM
The comments about Obama being arrogant are silly. Can anyone name 1 politician that is not arrogant? Its hard for anyone to say their the best person to pick in a popularity contest like politics and not be arrogant. Obama seems pretty level headed in this situation where most people would let their ego get the best of them(Hillary).
Posted by: jason | July 5, 2008 3:18 PM
I will not vote or support a candidate who argued against revotes in MI and FL, pulled his name from one state because they allowed for an uncommitted vote, then argues for 1/2 votes and steals 4 delegates from his opponent. OBAMA is worse than politics as USUAL, but CHICAGO politics as usual.
NOBAMA! NOWAY! IT AIN"T OVER, we are calling super delegates today, tomorrow and until the convention because 255 superdelegates that supported OBAMA overturned the will of the people...NOBAMA, NOWAY!