On the Yankees beat

Possible Proctor-for-Betemit deal
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http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster

The Dodgers and Yankees continue to discuss a possible swap of pitcher Scott Proctor for infielder Wilson Betemit, a deal that would fill holes for both teams. Betemit, who just turned 27, could be used at first base by the Yankees, and give them some positional alternatives should Alex Rodriguez opt-out at the end of the season.

The Yankees tried to acquire Betemit, who is currently hitting .231 with 10 homers, from Atlanta last season. Proctor, a former prospect with the Dodgers, would give Los Angeles some help in middle relief. He is 2-5 with a 3.81, in a season in which he has again shouldered a heavy workload for the Yankees.

Earlier on Monday, the Dodgers were told that they fell short in their attempt to trade for Kansas City reliever Octavio Dotel. If the Yankees are unsuccessful in their pursuit of Betemit, they may complete a deal for Oakland first baseman Dan Johnson, or simply decide to stick with Andy Phillips as their first baseman for the immediate future....[/quote]

So Betemit will replace Cairo as Utility man off the bench?

We wouldn't even be having this discussion if these stupid relievers could just throw strikes!

I said it before and I'll say it again:
I DON'T GET FARNSWORTH!
This guy has lights out stuff and he just doesn't trust it. If he could get his slider over more consistently, his fastball would be devastating.

What is wrong with this guy's head!

Anon:

Betemit has an OPS of .830 and has 10 HR in only 156 AB. At age 25 a big upgrade over Cairo, altho I don't think he can play SS.

Roy:

Add to list of Cashman blunders:

Igawa over Ted Lilly, 11-4 with 3.46, who wanted to play for NYY!

It's an off day, so a couple of stats and trivia:

We have ZERO pitchers in the AL top 50 in K's.

Damon has 19 SB and 2 CS.
Jeter has 11 and 8.
Who has the most CS in MLB this year (no fair looking it up).

Who has the most wins of any reliever in MLB in '07?

Bill Robinson died yesterday. Anybody remember who the Yanks traded to get him?

Proctor is overrated. Love Betemi, get him here.

DFA Farnsworth if you can't find a sucker.

Yankees get: Gagne, AA prospect

Rangers get: Marquez, Gardner

Yankees get: Betemit

Dodgers get: Proctor

Yankees get: Johnson

A's get: Clippard

Toledo Mud Hens get:

Igawa, Farnsworth and Nieves

Yankees get:

a 1978 orange Yugo

Yankee GM Brian Cashman said "Our class A affiliate in Tampa needs a vehicle to transport their relievers to the mound. This trade makes us better as an organization."

The Mud Hens GM would get fired for a trade like that!

That Yugo can still run!

Sully:

Is there a nickname worse than "Mud Hens"?

I went to NYU where the nickname was "The Violets"

I guess the P*ssies was already taken

My school opened the '63 season against NYU, who were ranked #3 in pre-season polls. They had Barry Kramer, Happy Hairston and McClemore (forget first name, future NBA guy - McCoy??). We led at the half before fading. Big crowd.

We could get Mitre, Franklin, Gregg ... any one just get someone.

What's the problem with 16 young trading chips and all this money?

Sheesh.

Pull the trigger!

Big trade: We gave India nuclear technology for a better rate on Mangos. (You can look it up on line.)

Go Yankees!

Boston Sports vs. New York Sports
Kiwinator Post #1: 4:42 pm Quote | Report Violation
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What a great time to be a Boston sports fan.

Red Sox >>>>>>>>>> Yankees

Celtics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Knicks

Patriots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jets/Giants
h00p2 Post #2: 4:50 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 178 So true. Despite New York having more teams , they still can't compete against the Boston franchises. Even with all that money.... Poor NY.
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What a great time to be a Boston sports fan.

Red Sox >>>>>>>>>> Yankees

Celtics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Knicks

Patriots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jets/Giants

why didnt you include new york's other 7 teams?
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What a great time to be a Boston sports fan.

Red Sox >>>>>>>>>> Yankees

Celtics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Knicks

Patriots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jets/Giants

And why did you list teams that play in NJ?
34toten Post #5: 5:13 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 110 i said it before and i will say it again Boston will always be second to new york forget the standings now see how it will end up in October
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i said it before and i will say it again Boston will always be second to new york forget the standings now see how it will end up in October

2004 says "hi".

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Rangers>>>>>>>>>>>Bruins

Knicks============Celtics (Until I see an official trade)

Patriots>>>>>>>>>>>>Giants/Jets

Red Sox>>>>>>>>>>>Yankees (ATM)
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Rangers>>>>>>>>>>>Bruins

Knicks============Celtics (Until I see an official trade)

Patriots>>>>>>>>>>>>Giants/Jets

Red Sox>>>>>>>>>>>Yankees (ATM)

Nobody cares about hockey but that's pretty much all you have. And Knicks = Celtics? Haha, give it up dude. Your best 2 players are two fat players who play no defense.

I never understand surveys and articles like that

New Yankees Stadium is three months behind schedule
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As The New York Sun notes, construction on Yankee Stadium is three months behind schedule in some places, according to people working on the site. The Sun reports:

http://www.nysun.com/article/59377

On the other side of town, at the new Yankee Stadium, the heavy metal extending skyward, toward the baseball gods, is less visible. The concrete façade that will form the exterior of the stadium is constructed behind home plate, and workers are expanding it along both base lines. However, it extends just a short distance toward left and right field, and the steel framework for the upper deck is constructed only in the area behind home plate.

An ironworker who was working at the stadium this weekend and did not give his name said the construction of the concrete façade is three months behind schedule. He also said the portion of façade he was working on yesterday was supposed to be up by April.

The Yankees organization refused to participate in this article. A spokeswoman for the Yankees, Alice McGillion, denied that the concrete façade is behind schedule. “We are not behind. Absolutely not,” she said. “We are different than the Mets. We are not following the Mets’ way of doing things. We are doing it our own way.”[/quote]

I must say... for an off day, this has been a hell of a day for the board

There are reports circulating of Gagne deal to New York

By the way, Joba stuck out the side in his one inning of relief tonight.

The plan is to pitch him on Wed again.

Betemit is 27 not 25, but still delivers value. He has shown flashes of brilliance at times, but needs consistent at-bats (just like Philips). If you look at prospect listings from a few years back, Betemit was a highly touted prospect. If you ask me, giving up Proctor is a no-brainer. Not because Betemit is great, but because he's young, he has potential, and he's versatile. On the contrary, Proctor doesn't provide much of anything. He's a hard-thrower, yes, but Mark Wohler was a hard-thrower. Proctor is very sporadic and has a tendency to fall-apart later in the season. JT has overused him for several years now and at 30 years old, he's 1. not young and 2. "mature beyond his years". In short, there are a number of young arms that could do the job that Proctor currently does. While Joba may be great, let's first see how he does in relief at Scranton. As far as other "live arms" to try in the bullpen, we could give Scott Williamson a shot or Chris Britton. Both have been successful in the past and might be able to regain that fire. If not, that's ok, there are other options. I'd like to see DeSalvo pitch out of the bullpen, since I don't see him as a starter for the Yankees at any time. For that matter, how's about a lesser known name, Ben Kozlowski. The guy can strike batters out. Why not promote Scott Paterson to SWB and see if he can keep up his Trenton numbers?

Thanks for the update Viper. I watched him pitch a few times down in Trenton. It really was impressive to watch. At times, it was reminiscent of the 11 year old with a full beard dominating the rest of the playground kids.

Hughes,

Yeah and eventually the other bearded kids kick him around and then its a sad thing to watch.

Hey, I just read that the Mets got a second baseman. I guess Cashman is really holding those cards tight to his chest driving up the price of his numerous chips he has to play before the trading deadline. I expect a massive deal for the Yanks. Cashman is really holding tight with that squad he has so all stars should be raining down upon the Bronx any minute now.

Or maybe he is outmatched again...for the sixth consecutive year...and the Yanks will still be what they are...and next year they will wither away even further.

But at least the attendance is good, huh?

I heard Joba struck out the side in AAA. How many wins does that translate into for the Yanks?

For Chip who thinks players play to the numbers on there baseball card every year.

1998 Phi 151 497 68 155 29 6 17 74 84 133 19 10 .312 .409 .497 .906
1999 Phi 152 546 118 183 35 11 20 93 109 113 27 9 .335 .446 .549 .995
2000 Phi 154 576 103 182 42 10 25 79 100 116 28 8 .316 .416 .554 .970
2001 Phi 162 588 118 170 48 4 31 110 106 137 36 14 .289 .393 .543 .936
2002 Phi 157 572 102 176 50 6 20 85 104 117 31 12 .308 .413 .521 .934
2003 Phi 158 577 99 173 35 1 20 101 109 126 22 9 .300 .409 .468 .877
2004 Phi 159 574 118 173 47 1 30 105 127 116 40 5 .301 .428 .544 .972
2005 Phi 162 588 104 168 37 1 24 102 117 134 31 9 .286 .405 .474 .879
2006 NYY 58 209 37 69 16 0 7 42 33 52 10 2 .330 .419 .507 .926
2006 Phi 98 339 61 94 25 2 8 65 91 86 20 4 .277 .427 .434 .861
2007 NYY 103 396 73 107 23 2 8 61 50 78 14 4 .270 .351 .399 .750
Total -- 1588 5672 1024 1702 398 46 213 944 1053 1259 285 88 .300 .408 .499 .907

Thats Abreu's numbers that are radically inconsistent, but Chip thinks its an example of playing to the number on the card. I Guess there are enough different numbers there that you can say he is playing to some number, so Chip is covered with his no thinking procalmation.

Nudge -
A - I don't see how the Mets getting Castillo has anything to do with the Yankees

B - If you'll recall (and if you don't I invite you to go back and look) when I posted it I was talking about specifically his BA and OBP both of which have been around .300 and .400 respectively for about 9 years - the flux in his power numbers is well documented and was not part of my argument.

On that note - isn't it past your bed time?

some trade dealine...

pull the trigger of farnsworthless tomorrow?

Sully,

I see where you have achieved the dignified level of being accused of being me. Thats rarified air my friend. Many of these thin skinned, weak minded Yankee fans have convinced themselves that all opposing opinions are actually coming from one person under 50 different names. When in reality they use 50 different unimaginative monikers to try and insult and offend those with opinions they cant handle or counter. See most of them are little kids who have probably never been to a real baseball game because their moms won't let them out in a place like the Bronx. For all their talk I have been to 10 times the number of Yankee games as them their best read of the team is todays standings. So they resort to the personal assaults and false accusations. The try to perform psychoanalysis and flagellate themselves about how smart they were by being wrong over and over. Then they accuse you of doing what they do. That called projecting. They insult and name call and gripe and moan about everything you say. Eventually they try to bring out 1961 or some other day they wern't even born to argue a point about the wild card or something before they lose it and start making up names for themselves, including your own and posting jibberish while saying that YOU are losing it.

It a hilarious thing to watch.Usually occurs about once every 2 weeks, or Yankee losing streak whichever comes first.

I love this country! Where else can you get stuff like this for FREE!!!

Chip,

Good to hear from you. Yes thats is what you said and the facts disprove anything you claim. Abreus BA has varied 50 points(thats 16.667%) over his career. How is that consistent with the number on the back? Did you look this up before you posted it or just think everyone would be impressed because you cut and pasted a link. Thats about the worst example to support your argument I could think of.

Can you imagine if a surgeon varied 16.67 % in his mortality ratings. Or how about the Pilot or your airplane varying 16.67 % in where to land the plane safely.

Or in your job Chip. What if circulation numbers next year were down 16.67 %. Would your company say...no big deal, thats close to the number on the card. No they would fire the management.

But baseball is not like that. Player NEVER played to the number. Thats a fact. Like I said another myth busted.

Jeters Numbers..

1995 NYY 15 48 5 12 4 1 0 7 3 11 0 0 .250 .294 .375 .669
1996 NYY 157 582 104 183 25 6 10 78 48 102 14 7 .314 .370 .430 .800
1997 NYY 159 654 116 190 31 7 10 70 74 125 23 12 .291 .370 .405 .775
1998 NYY 149 626 127 203 25 8 19 84 57 119 30 6 .324 .384 .481 .865
1999 NYY 158 627 134 219 37 9 24 102 91 116 19 8 .349 .438 .552 .990
2000 NYY 148 593 119 201 31 4 15 73 68 99 22 4 .339 .416 .481 .897
2001 NYY 150 614 110 191 35 3 21 74 56 99 27 3 .311 .377 .480 .857
2002 NYY 157 644 124 191 26 0 18 75 73 114 32 3 .297 .373 .421 .794
2003 NYY 119 482 87 156 25 3 10 52 43 88 11 5 .324 .393 .450 .843
2004 NYY 154 643 111 188 44 1 23 78 46 99 23 4 .292 .352 .471 .823
2005 NYY 159 654 122 202 25 5 19 70 77 117 14 5 .309 .389 .450 .839
2006 NYY 154 623 118 214 39 3 14 97 69 102 34 5 .343 .417 .483 .900
2007 NYY 104 428 67 142 27 3 7 50 41 60 11 8 .332 .401 .458 .859
Total -- 1783 7218 1344 2292 374 53 190 910 746 1251 260 70 .318 .389 .463 .852

Another inconsistent player I guess huh Chip.

A-Rod...

1996 Sea 146 601 141 215 54 1 36 123 59 104 15 4 .358 .414 .631 1.045
1997 Sea 141 587 100 176 40 3 23 84 41 99 29 6 .300 .350 .496 .846
1998 Sea 161 686 123 213 35 5 42 124 45 121 46 13 .310 .360 .560 .920
1999 Sea 129 502 110 143 25 0 42 111 56 109 21 7 .285 .357 .586 .943
2000 Sea 148 554 134 175 34 2 41 132 100 121 15 4 .316 .420 .606 1.026
2001 Tex 162 632 133 201 34 1 52 135 75 131 18 3 .318 .399 .622 1.021
2002 Tex 162 624 125 187 27 2 57 142 87 122 9 4 .300 .392 .623 1.015
2003 Tex 161 607 124 181 30 6 47 118 87 126 17 3 .298 .396 .600 .996
2004 NYY 155 601 112 172 24 2 36 106 80 131 28 4 .286 .375 .512 .887
2005 NYY 162 605 124 194 29 1 48 130 91 139 21 6 .321 .421 .610 1.031
2006 NYY 154 572 113 166 26 1 35 121 90 139 15 4 .290 .392 .523 .915
2007 NYY 104 384 97 116 25 0 35 103 63 82 11 2 .302 .412 .641 1.053
Total -- 1850 7151 1455 2183 389 26 499 1450 883 1486 252 62 .305 .387 .576 .963

Not doing well on the consistency thing. Maybe he wasn't Booed enough into consistency.

Giambi....not a good one for you Chip...

1996 Oak 140 536 84 156 40 1 20 79 51 95 0 1 .291 .355 .481 .836
1997 Oak 142 519 66 152 41 2 20 81 55 89 0 1 .293 .362 .495 .857
1998 Oak 153 562 92 166 28 0 27 110 81 102 2 2 .295 .384 .489 .873
1999 Oak 158 575 115 181 36 1 33 123 105 106 1 1 .315 .422 .553 .975
2000 Oak 152 510 108 170 29 1 43 137 137 96 2 0 .333 .476 .647 1.123
2001 Oak 154 520 109 178 47 2 38 120 129 83 2 0 .342 .477 .660 1.137
2002 NYY 155 560 120 176 34 1 41 122 109 112 2 2 .314 .435 .598 1.033
2003 NYY 156 535 97 134 25 0 41 107 129 140 2 1 .250 .412 .527 .939
2004 NYY 80 264 33 55 9 0 12 40 47 62 0 1 .208 .342 .379 .721
2005 NYY 139 417 74 113 14 0 32 87 108 109 0 0 .271 .440 .535 .975
2006 NYY 139 446 92 113 25 0 37 113 110 106 2 0 .253 .413 .558 .971
2007 NYY 45 149 19 39 5 0 7 23 25 35 1 0 .262 .380 .436 .816
Total -- 1667 5769 1036 1678 340 8 357 1167 1114 1166 16 10 .291 .413 .538 .951

Damon...but he doesnt count I guess because he played for the Red Sux huh?

1996 KC 145 517 61 140 22 5 6 50 31 64 25 5 .271 .313 .368 .681
1997 KC 146 472 70 130 12 8 8 48 42 70 16 10 .275 .338 .386 .724
1998 KC 161 642 104 178 30 10 18 66 58 84 26 12 .277 .339 .439 .778
1999 KC 145 583 101 179 39 9 14 77 67 50 36 6 .307 .379 .477 .856
2000 KC 159 655 136 214 42 10 16 88 65 60 46 9 .327 .382 .495 .877
2001 Oak 155 644 108 165 34 4 9 49 61 70 27 12 .256 .324 .363 .687
2002 Bos 154 623 118 178 34 11 14 63 65 70 31 6 .286 .356 .443 .799
2003 Bos 145 608 103 166 32 6 12 67 68 74 30 6 .273 .345 .405 .750
2004 Bos 150 621 123 189 35 6 20 94 76 71 19 8 .304 .380 .477 .857
2005 Bos 148 624 117 197 35 6 10 75 53 69 18 1 .316 .366 .439 .805
2006 NYY 149 593 115 169 35 5 24 80 67 85 25 10 .285 .359 .482 .841
2007 NYY 93 340 60 84 16 1 5 38 52 52 19 2 .247 .347 .344 .691
Total -- 1797 7110 1248 2042 377 86 159 818 717 841 325 87 .287 .353 .432 .785

How bout one of my favorite Yankee hitters Jorge...

1998 NYY 111 358 56 96 23 0 17 63 47 92 0 1 .268 .350 .475 .825
1999 NYY 112 379 50 93 19 2 12 57 53 91 1 0 .245 .341 .401 .742
2000 NYY 151 505 92 145 35 1 28 86 107 151 2 2 .287 .417 .527 .944
2001 NYY 138 484 59 134 28 1 22 95 62 132 2 6 .277 .363 .475 .838
2002 NYY 143 511 79 137 40 1 20 99 81 143 1 0 .268 .370 .468 .838
2003 NYY 142 481 83 135 24 0 30 101 93 110 2 4 .281 .405 .518 .923
2004 NYY 137 449 72 122 31 0 21 81 88 92 1 3 .272 .400 .481 .881
2005 NYY 142 474 67 124 23 0 19 71 66 94 1 0 .262 .352 .430 .782
2006 NYY 143 465 65 129 27 2 23 93 64 97 3 0 .277 .374 .492 .866
2007 NYY 98 343 54 114 28 1 11 58 46 71 2 0 .332 .413 .516 .929
Total -- 1386 4651 707 1277 290 8 209 829 738 1112 16 18 .275 .378 .475 .853

Wow thats pretty inconsistent with the number on the back of the card isant it?

It must be tough being Chip now. Having gone out of your way to proclaim proof of your argument that is 180 degree from what you argue. But I expect it since no one ever checks Chips info. he gets away with all kinds of garbage...except when the Nudge is on patrol.

Nudge/Sully
Yes that's what they call it---projecting and that exactly what you are doing.

The symptoms of a character or personality disorder is usually seen in the drug addict or chronic alcoholic. A insecure person who does not feel guilt about his bad behavior. Irresponsibility and a combative nature are often indications of this type of disorder.

Yankee bashers on a Yankee blog? Yup,you fit the profile.

Get so

Certainly looks like a major Chip smackdown day. I like to hear from Chip but he does post up numerous things that I think are suspect. i just dont have the time to research whether its right or not. I guess I will check more in the future and challange him. For fun of course, because thats what this is all about.

Misnomer,

Sounds like your in with us then. Projecting and all. How long did you spend on Google looking that up to sound like you knew what I knew off the top of my head? Not only are you projecting but you are posing as aperson with some level of knowledge on a subject you know nothing about(like Chip and baseball). Come on...you are Chip aren't you?

Fess up now and we can all have a good laugh before your milk and cookies come from mommy.

And Misnomer is a really weak name to hide behind. But weak is as weak does.

This just in on Foxnews...

In face of overwhelming evidence contrary to his argument today... Chip changed monikers to Misnomer and assumed a new identity to escape the mass ridicule of being exposed as a complete fraud. Chip has gone underground and authorities are interested in his where abouts since his mother saw him last heading out on the street wearing only his Spiderman Jammies and carrying his baseball card collection muttering something about the "damn numbers" letting him down. Anyone with knowledge of Chips where abouts are encourage to call Creedmore Institute and instructed NOT to approach the suspect as he my mean to do harm to himself.

Just a public service on my part. We all love Chips nonsense...it keeps smile on all our faces and we REALLY miss him. Come back Chip, Farnsworth misses you, Pavano misses you and Myers miss you.

No I dont miss you...but I hate to see anyone down! I mean you post some good stuff here and there but everytime I think you are about to make good sense its like you have to prove you are out there in left field. You go on some off the wall argument and post evidence that disproves what your saying and then get all offended that other call you to task for it. Just suck it up and keep it real......OK if it helps...I miss you too Chip. Dont be Misnomer, he is as bad as Chip without the following. Just put the baseball cards down and listen to people who know more than you. Thats how I learned! I didn't become the expert at 18 years old. It took 30 years before I could speak with knowledge. Wait your turn...your time will come.

Nudge
Your one-man band is ending up in smoke.
You have made a buffoon out of yourself. My guess is that your a recovering alcoholic and engage in this peckersniff behavior because you need a drink.

Concerned said not to used this blog as a form of therapy. Hell, he should of realized that your a lost sop. Jump back into the jug your tricked out.

Nudge,

Do you like talking to yourself?

You've rambled on like this before and you want to insult others?

Find another hobby.

FYI, I'm still not Nudge

Viper
You describe Nudge's talking to himself as rambling...
Nudge calls it verbal intercourse.

Since we are cutting and pasting random players...

How about Wayne Tolleson?

Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG *OPS+ TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
1981 25 TEX AL 14 24 6 4 0 0 0 1 2 0 1 5 .167 .200 .167 9 4 0 0 0 0 0
1982 26 TEX AL 38 70 6 8 1 0 0 2 1 1 5 14 .114 .173 .129 -13 9 3 0 0 0 1
1983 27 TEX AL 134 470 64 122 13 2 3 20 33 10 40 68 .260 .319 .315 78 148 7 2 0 2 8
1984 28 TEX AL 118 338 35 72 9 2 0 9 22 4 27 47 .213 .276 .251 46 85 9 1 0 3 12
1985 29 TEX AL 123 323 45 101 9 5 1 18 21 12 21 46 .313 .353 .381 101 123 9 2 0 0 6
1986 30 TOT AL 141 475 61 126 16 5 3 43 17 10 52 76 .265 .338 .339 85 161 13 4 0 2 6
CHW AL 81 260 39 65 7 3 3 29 13 6 38 43 .250 .342 .335 84 87 9 3 0 0 3
NYY AL 60 215 22 61 9 2 0 14 4 4 14 33 .284 .332 .344 86 74 4 1 0 2 3
1987 31 NYY AL 121 349 48 77 4 0 1 22 5 3 43 72 .221 .306 .241 49 84 6 0 0 0 3
1988 32 NYY AL 21 59 8 15 2 0 0 5 1 0 8 12 .254 .338 .288 79 17 1 1 0 0 1
1989 33 NYY AL 80 140 16 23 5 2 1 9 5 1 16 23 .164 .255 .250 44 35 3 0 0 1 3
1990 34 NYY AL 73 74 12 11 1 1 0 4 1 0 6 21 .149 .210 .189 13 14 2 1 0 0 0

Sully
Of course your not Nudge...
Your Ru-Paul the switch hitter...Da cross between Andy Dick and Rosie O'Donnell...Da Bob Uecker stalker.

Seriously Longfellow, let it out. Tell us what's wrong

Oh Sully,
What's with the we $hit...Nudge was doing the cutting and pasting and yes I know your not Nudge
because he has the personality problem and your the one with the character disorder..

Um... OK?

Please make an attempt to make sense. It would make your insults more pointed.

Seriously Silly,

Stop being a cockatrice...
Nudge is now back in the closet and the symposium of one continues.

Was it the BLOW that caused the flame out?

Hey Silly,
No offense but if it quacks and walks like a duck.

Wow... um... you got me?

[Cuckoo Clock Sound Effect]

petty drama....yawn

No retorts Silly....
I guess you called it a night and are now out molesting your neighbors dog.

DG, I don't even know what he's talking about.

I get it NOW!
I'm a dog molester!

Good one.

Have a good night everyone.
Tomorrow we'll talk baseball.

Tonight... DOG MOLESTING!

These "one-liners" are very reminiscent of middle-school AOL chatrooms or the since removed Yahoo chatrooms. It's an important time for the baseball community and this is what an otherwise solid board has been brought to? I don't post often, but I'll say that most of the posts I read are appropriate, but sometimes, these rants and personal attacks ruin the site. The debates, I think those are great, because the board is about opinions, but I feel like this board has become repetitive. The same people, delivering the same message with some "flowery" fluff surrounding it to try and make it sound like something new. The truth be told, the Yankees are within striking distance of the playoffs and that's a good thing. Those that say they need to play good teams should look closer at the numbers. In the first half of the season (at the All-Star break, not the 81 game mark) the Yankees had a better overall record against teams with a .500 or better record than they did against below .500 teams. This team generally rises to the occassion and each year chooses one bad team to let beat them (it's been Tampa Bay the past few years, but seems to be Baltimore this year). It would be nice to get Gagne and in considering the trade, the draft pick to be received after he signs elsewhere should be considered as part of the package. It's not a prospect for a reliever-rental, it's a prospect for a reliever-rental & a draft pick(s). The second half of the equation could make a straight up deal better.

Funny, last year there was talk the Yanks would do the same thing with Abreu that they did with Shefield (pick up the option & trade him), but does anyone think there is a team in baseball that would trade for Abreu at his $15 million option? How much do you think he could get as a FA?

You "numbers crunchers" need to "watch" the games. Abreu's problem is he blows hot and cold. He'll have a good week, and then go "stone cold" for a week. The Yanks can't afford having their 3 hole hitter do this, especially when they are playing "catch up" in the wild card race. Stop looking at numbers and start watching the games.

Actually, you are sadly mistaken. People DO care about hockey, its the greatest game on earth!!

Far more interesting than baseball, although i am a Yankees fan. But I'll take hockey over baseball any day of the week.

No one cares about hockey , period! Soccer may be the only sport less cared about in the good ole USA!

Giambi report: To all fans who believe Giambi is the answer to the Yankee power shortage. Playing DH in high A ball against the Reds farm team in Sarasota before a hugh crowd of 467 people. Jason struck out twice and popped up to second against the starter. He singled to center the next two times against different pitchers.

Jason's desire to comeback quickly may take a longer route.

Hello there, My Boyfriend Sully.

Any chance baseball...more specifically, trade deadline can be discussed today? instead of the BS that was posted all last night?

Sully- read some rumors today that Sox are after Dye and Gagne, and have revised the offers to both teams.

any idea if either /or delcarmen, lester, hansen, ellisbury are included?

Sure hope so...I'll be in training all day and bored; this can be my saving grace!

Miguel
If you want to find out about Sox trade rumors you need to go to a Sox Blog.
This is a YANKEE blog.

"One GM said that, from what he’d been told, the Sox had the best offers on the table for both Dye and Gagne. It remained in question, however, if either player wanted to join the Red Sox because of how they would be deployed. Dye, who has to waive his no-trade rights, understandably is concerned about how much playing time is available for him because of the presence of fellow right fielder J.D. Drew [stats], who is in the first year of a five-year, $70 million contract. "

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=1014354

Zander, Pettitte is number 22 in the AL in K's right now, with 86.

Bill Robison was traded from Atl to the Tankees fro Clete Boyer

Bill Robinson was traded from Atl to the Tankees fro Clete Boyer

Yankees traded Clete Boyer to Atl for Bill Robinson

NUDGE SUCKS !

For the record I have never once posted under any name other than Chip.

I usually do not post except during work hours - last night was an exception because I wanted to see if there was any trade info up and caught Nudge's comment.

That being said; Nudge, this obsession you have with me is getting a little old. You don't like my comments, fine. But lets call a spade a spade - you cherry pick the aspects of comments that you respond to and ignore those aspects that prove you to be completely and totally incorrect or hypocritical in your beliefs.

I'm sure you have your reasons for frequenting this site, though I can't quite fathom what they are. Certainly you must have SOMETHING better to do than post all day (and apparently all night) on a message board for a team you don't like. As I have stated before, it is almost sad to me the way you operate. Trying to start arguments with people you don't know and will never meet. You are meaningless to me, your comments neither make me feel insulted or justified.

I am certain I am not the first person to utter the thought that a player will, in most cases, live up to the numbers on the back of his baseball card - will they be exact, of course not - but they will be approximately the same - Giambi's chemical aided performance not withstanding.

Anyway, enough of that nonsense - onto the important stuff:

I'm guessing that by close of business today Proctor will be gone (though I would prefer Kyle Farnsworth - and I still think if the Yankees can't find a taker they may cut him loose)

I don't know anything about Wilson Betemit except that he's young (27) and while his average is low he has hit for power. I don't know what sort of fielder he is - but I think if the team can get a young switch hitter like him for an inconsistent middle reliever, they should do the deal.

Chip You are just as much as to blame because you continually respond to the messages. Do you really care what he has to say to you, or about you? If so, continue to respond. If not, IGNORE! Whatever the content of your messages, opinions, comments, proclamations, its your right to post them. You don't have to justify them, especially to a person who obviouslly is severely deranged and dillusional.

the force is with stick.

CHip is a fine Jedi in training

KEYmotions(EMOTIONS) must be tamed on line

Come on Yoda, it would be, "A fine Jedi in training Chip is." But I also think Yoda would remind him not to let anger get the best of him.

Stick

You're right - if you feed a stray dog it will never leave.

Cashman and his insistence on not trading Chamberlain, have put the Yanks behind the "8 ball". The Yankees must have Gagne, and are now bidding against several teams to get him. Cashman could have had both TEX and Gagne if he had been willing to part with Chamberlain. Hopefully, he can still get Gagne. The Yankees will end up with no TEX, and the price for Gagne will be exorbitant. Dumb.

yoda dammit I am

Talk any way I can

not my cup of tea KEYmotions Is

disrupt yoda you DO NOT!

Roy.

Why "must" the Yankees have Gagne?

If you believe his is a team altering player, that's one thing. If, however, you believe that he is just the best available pitcher in a down pitching market, then that is something else. Like I said yesterday, Carl Pavano was the most sought after pitcher when he hit free agency because of how bad the other pitchers out there with him were. I'm not convinced that the same is not also true of Gagne.

Roy is a bandwagon Yankee fan. Always wants the high-priced, exagerated players. Wanted Texiera, and now he's not available. Next is Gagne. Roy cant sit still and accept nothing at deadline. That is why he is a bandwagon fan.

Postings last night made a lot of sense.
1-Sully/Nudge/casual observer
2-Good cop/Bad cop/clown.
3-All anti yankee.
4-All blog at the same time.
5-All are quick to agree with and defend each other.
6-All will bend and twist words to win an argument.
7-All seem to have a memory lapses and anger issues.
8-All when confronted engage in crass and boorish behavior.

Like the blogger said yesterday....stop using this blog as a form of therapy and get help. Obviously there has to be something wrong when all you have to offer is criticism.