There's been so much news the past few days. Thankfully someone filled in to blog Joe Torre's press conference yesterday, as I was quite busy with all the stories for the paper/website.
Torre was classy yesterday in his goodbye press conference, as expected, although he was clearly wounded by the Yankees' offer. It didn't seem to be the money as much as the fact that the Yankees thought he needed incentives to "motivate" him, and most of all that they would not guarantee him a second year. He didn't think any of the decisionmakers besides Brian Cashman and perhaps one other unnamed person really wanted him back.
Torre had lots of great memories of his 12 years, but doesn't know when he'll go back to Yankee Stadium. It wasn't a happy parting, obviously. He sounded open to the idea of managing elsewhere, if the right opportunity comes along.
The search for a new manager is underway. Cashman has already contacted Don Mattingly, Tony Pena and Joe Girardi to convey interest in the trio. All three are expected to interview next week, probably all in Tampa. There will be other candidates, though, and Hank Steinbrenner said he doesn't expect a decision to be made until after the World Series.
In other news, Cashman told the coaching staff they are free to look for positions elsewhere as he is unable to guarantee them jobs until he has a manager.
Third-base coach Larry Bowa already has an offer to be the Mariners' third-base coach. Bowa told me last night that he has not made up his mind whether to accept the offer or not. He lives near Philadelphia year-round, and his daughter is in law school on the East Coast. Said Bowa: "I had a great time here, great organization, it's the best organization. But there's no guarantees if you pass something up that something else is going to come along."
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In 1996 the Yankees payroll was only 4M higher than Baltimore and 7M higher than Cleveland.
In 1997 the Yankees payroll was only 5M higher than Baltimore and 7M higher than both the White Sox and Indians.
In 1998 the Orioles had the highest payroll, 7M higher than us.
In 1999 the Yankees payroll was only 7M higher than Texas and 11M higher than the Red Sox.
In 2000 the Yankees payroll was 9M higher than the O's and 11M higher than the Red Sox.
In 2001 the Yankees payroll was a big 3M higher than the Red Sox.
2001 was the first time our payroll exceeded 100M
It was Randy Levine Fault since He came to the Yankees in 2000.
If one reads between the lines, the most important thing that JT had to say yesterday is that the Yankees seem to have become a BUSINESS and not a baseball team anymore.
I discussed this very topic on here last winter. With the Boss fading out of the picture more and more, decisions are now going to be made not with winning at any cost in mind. The bottom line will become more important than winning.
In essence, decisions will not be made from a BASEBALL standpoint and what is best for the team player wise, but more from a FINANCIAL or marketing standpoint.
With that in mind, I think we are in store for many stupid decisions to be made that are not necessarily in the fans or teams best interests. This same mentality seems to be taking over baseball in gemeral.
Look at Scott Boras as a prime example of this BUSINESS mentallity. He is marketing ARod as something far more than just a baseball player. He figures a clients worth to a team based on the team having a regional sports network, etc. This whole nonsense is taking over baseball.
I forsee some really stupid baseball moves being made by the Yankees from here on out. Moves that do not make sense from a baseball sense. Beware Yankee fans, our TEAM is slipping away, and the BUSINESS is replacing it.
As a sidebar to my post above, I can see a couple of scenarios developing in the near future that I don't necessarily see as good ones for our team.
I can forsee an all out effort to extend AR at any cost just because of the added MARKETING factor he brings to the organization. Does his smiling face on YES actually win us more games?????
At the same time, I can see the business masters trying to lowball offer Posada and Mo much like they did Pettitte 4 years ago. This organization has a bad history of taking it's own homegrown legends for granted. See Pettitte 4 years ago and Bernie just last year.
Combine the feelings both of these guys have right now for management with the lowball offers, and I can see both of them being out of here too. Not sound BASEBALL decisions.
And, if these developments unfold, I can then also see Pettitte retiring and not coming back for his option year. Oh, I have one other one too. I see Mattingly being hired as manager because it is a good "marketing PR" move for the organization. It makes no sense for the team BASEBALL wise. He just isn't ready to manage.
Sure hope I'm wrong, but I can see the possibility of some really stupid BUSINESS/MARKETING moves coming soon that will ruin our BASEBALL TEAM. Stay tuned.
I believe the way H\H "handled" the Torre Fiasco, has also dictated the outcome of the A-OPT situation. No way A-OPT will seriously consider returning to the Yanks, knowing the current budgetary Yankee climate. He knows H\H will surround him with a "bargain basement" supporting cast. He knows the boos he has previously heard, would pale in comparison to what he would receive as the $30 million dollar "star" on a team of "supporting players". Not having the salaries of both A-OPT and Torre on the books, would "permit" the signing of possibly both Posada and Mo, but certainly 1 of the 2. If given the choice of only 1 of those 2 players, I would go with Posada. Chamberlain can replace MO. The Yanks currently have no one even close to Posada ready to "step in".
Everyone knows all the Stanks are good for is Buying the World series or making a Feeble attempt to do so! I hope Torre and ALL the Departing former Stanks (A-Rod, Posada, Clemens, Rivera, Etc, ETC.) do well with their New Team!
A decision that is bad for baseball is bad for business. The two go hand in hand. If Yankee baseball goes down the drain, so will the money. There was a time when the Yankees were losing and the fans weren't coming to the park. Bad baseball decisions are bad business decisions and the organization suffers.
The decision makers were wise not to give Torre two years and they acted in the best interest of the organization. They believed they made the best decision to HELP the Yankees, not to insult Torre. Let's get real and stop with the critical nonsense based on paranoia and/or Yankee hatred.
Mike:
Like most Yankee haters your comments make no common sense. You can't buy or try to buy wins. You pay great players great money and hope they have a great performance. The Yankees are a billion dollar franchise so they can afford to pay great players great money. It's not our fault other teams don't have the same attendance, the same sponsors, the same support system, and the same GENEROUS OWNER. That's where the money comes from that pays great players who you hope will bring faithful fans a World Series win.
Your comments about who you decided will be leaving are ridiculous. It's just a case of wishful thinking and Yankee envy. Too bad for you, dry your tears, and take a hike.
Every decision that is good for business is not good for baseball. For example, the way the present-day playoffs are set up is good for ticket sales but does not help make better baseball teams. The way the TV coverage is set up is good for TV viewership but does not make for better baseball games or better play or better conditions for players to play their best -- yet it is good business for teams that have their own networks. The same is true for long breaks for commercials and distracting cutaways to fifth-level 'celebrities' -- good for TV revenues, but slows the game down. Concealing information about the use of performance enhancing drugs was good for business but not for baseball. There are far too many examples of business interests and baseball interests clashing for me to go on boring you with them.
To equate baseball decisions and business decisions, whether good or bad, is naive.
Naive, Marianne? That was unnecessary, don't you think, especially since you're not following the train of thought. We are NOT talking about the MEDIA decisions -- we are talking about decisions made by the organization for the good of their own team. Two different things. Try to stick with the subject. Try to follow along and read for comprehension if it's not too difficult for you.
Sorry if the connection was unclear. For a corporation like Yankees Global (Somethingorother), media decisions are very much a part of their business decisions. Try to keep up. The team itself is only a part of their business structure, only one of their revenue streams. The brand is the key. Naturally they don't want a team of stumblebums that would besmirch the brand. That doesn't mean baseball excellence is their top priority. And people who are hired to take care of revenue streams, for whom baseball excellence is not their top priority, can justly be considered as not being the people best able to make good baseball decisions.
I am not implying, nor should you infer, that business and baseball are always at cross purposes. But to imagine that business-oriented decisions are just naturally in the best interest of good baseball is, I continue to maintain, simply naive.
I hope that that makes my position clearer.
Meantime I am aware that even if it is more clear, that does not mean you are more likely to agree, and that is fine too.
I'm repeating myself but it goes with the last decision made by the Yankee brass in regards to Joe Torre.
I doubt there are many fans of baseball who dislike Joe T. He is one class act who most players have no problem. I have heard negative comments from the likes of Sheffield, Lufton and Boges. Basicly disgruntled players who weren't getting playing time, etc. There are a City full who would love to play for Joe.
I believe the contract was fair to Joe. It could have been worded by Levine in another way. Joe does not need motivation just as Wil Nieves did not need motivation. Joe came to the field everyday to win. I make no bones about that aspect of Joe T.
I have issues with his committment to players when they are not playing well because of injury, etc. He has no confidence in the younger player unless placed in position of using the younger player. He's not very good at managing his bullpen. How many burnt out pitchers have we had in the last few years out of the bullpen especially with our weaker SP. This in some circumstances canbe understood but if this is the case with weak SP than you use the whole bullpen not just 4 of them. Edwar Ramiez came onto the team and pitched very well. Joe doesn't us him for a week to 10 days. the kid gets bombed. He's sent down in tears. Joe tells him its not his fault. I forgot about you. Hello! Joba Chamberlin pitches in the second game of the Divison Series for 2 innings or and ining +. One day of rest, he's pitching 2 innings with a 5 run lead. No wonder the Yankee brass has some concerns and is not available for our elimination game. Playing Matsui as Dh against C.C. who had been hitting .188 the last 4/6 weeks of the season instead of Duncan, a RH. Boston's righty lineup is making C.C rethink his lofty status.
Joe is a geat manager but I believe his time has come to let another guy with maybe a different approach to winning games and using his entire roster to breed confidence in his players for a playoff run.
Joe didn't like the contract. Its his right to refuse. The Yankees didn't like Joe's managing and were in a tough spot. So they gave him an unsecured contract but a better total reward if he brought the prize home. Maybe they wanted to see the players (motivation) play for Joe and not thmselves and bring the trophy to the Bx.
To all Bloggers who feared for my life when I accepted a lunch date with Anthony, AKA, Ant Colony. He's a very nice guy. He has a pretty girlfriend.
I found Anthony to be very interesting person, journalist, college professor, photogrpher, fan of baseball and A Yankee fan.
He does travel about. So, If he gives you a holler to meet. You take the opportunity. It will be a good couple of hours.
And about his random comments, he has many thoughts about the game and life that just spill out in this forum.
Gammons- Yankees are still the Yankees
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http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=gammons_peter
A dozen years ago, Buck Showalter was fired by the Yankees, and those who knew what he and former GM Gene Michael had done in restoring the organization thought it was unfair and unwise. Then, George Steinbrenner was convinced to replace Showalter with Joe Torre. Anyone who spent time with Torre and observed him in St. Louis knew it was a stroke of genius.
The sun set on that relationship -- and as poorly as the public handling may have been, and as demeaning as the incentives may have been -- the job of managing the New York Yankees in 2008 may well be what it was in 1996: a great job.
Oh, is there pressure? Of course, as there is in Boston, where Terry Francona on Friday said, "We've won 101 games, and there don't seem to be many happy people around here."
Hank Steinbrenner said the Yankees' mission is to win every year, but acknowledged that impossibility, and if he is indeed as set on scouting and player development as he says, this can be a great opportunity.
Whether it's Don Mattingly, Joe Girardi, John Farrell or somebody else, New York is not going to be Pittsburgh with a mountain to rebuild. It's the Yankees, and the Steinbrenners will spend the money on the big-ticket players -- meaning Alex Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada or Johan Santana.
[b]What Torre and Brian Cashman did to rebuild the team by installing young players from the farm system (under the organization of scouting director Damon Oppenheimer and senior vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman) makes the Yankees far better right now than they were when they lost to the Red Sox in the 2004 ALCS. Torre nurtured Melky Cabrera to the point where he is an energetic, vibrant center fielder with one of the best arms at his position in the league. Torre and Mattingly brought along Robinson Cano, who is going to be a .330 hitter capable of 35-40 homers at second base. Shelley Duncan has legitimate power and plays the game with a youthful exuberance. And Mattingly still believes in Bronson Sardinha.
Then, there's the pitching, whether they keep Chien-Ming Wang or not. Joba Chamberlain can do whatever they want, and Phil Hughes, Ross Ohlendorf, Ian Kennedy and Alan Horne are the core of a staff that won't require giving Carlos Silva a Carl Pavano-esque contract. They may have enough to get into the Santana sweepstakes. Humberto Sanchez will be on the radar by August, and Andrew Brackman by the following spring.[/b]
The team leader is Derek Jeter. When told how much fun Yankee-Red Sox baseball can be in cold weather, he answered: "If you think it's fun to watch, imagine how great it is to play." People like Derek Jeter make managing a whole lot easier.
If Cashman is allowed to run the operation -- and there is every reason to believe the Steinbrenner family understands his accomplishments and supports him -- whoever gets chosen to manage will have one of the best and brightest allies and partners in the business.
Because of the unseemly end to the Torre era, whoever replaces him will have the backing of the Steinbrenners and all the resources that backing guarantees. This makes it a more possible situation than following John Wooden or Dean Smith. The Yankees are headed into the gold mine of a new stadium. Unless they lose A-Rod, Posada, Rivera and Bobby Abreu, and Chamberlain and Hughes break down, they're not getting cancellations on the YES Network. They are the Yankees, and their fans watched them when Horace Clarke bobbled balls at second and Rick Rhoden DH'd and Mel Hall was drivin' people crazy.
Be it Donnie Baseball, Girardi, Farrell or whoever, the Yankees will be expected to make the playoffs. That -- and the resources -- sure beat places where the owner cares more about Bud Selig than his fans, or where the mission statement is .500, in due time.
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The Redsox have more mercenaries on their Team.. They're the one thats buys Championships. Don't tell me Ortiz, and Manny came from Redsox Farm system. Same with Lugo, Jd Drew, Coco Crisp, Beckett, Mike Lowell [former Yankees Farmhand], Lastly Captain of Redsox Jason Varitek who came from Seattle Organization.. Trot Nixon should be captain of Redsox instead They let him go for a draft pick. Wakefield is from Pirates Organization... So Stfu Mike..
Here's a link to a story about one big revenue stream -- the new Stadium with its multiple sponsorship opportunities and Yankee-run concessions, on top of the huge new amounts for luxury boxes:
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/10/news/newsmakers/yankees_stadium.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007081011
Here's a quote from Fortune about the value of YES, another revenue stream, written two months ago when there were rumors that the network was up for sale:
"And what might a "full and fair" price be? Try a cool $3 billion to $3.5 billion. At that price, one could argue that the true gem of the Yankees business empire isn't the team itself but YES.
The team hasn't distributed profits to owners in about 10 years, two Yankees insiders say. (Responds Yanks chief operating officer Lonn Trost: "There have been distributions in the past and the expectation is there will be more in the future.) Meanwhile, YES brought in $340.5 million in revenue in 2006, up about 6 percent from the prior year, according to Kagan Media Research estimates. (YES doesn't release official financial data.) John Mansell, a prominent sports analyst, believes that 40 percent of that revenue - about $136 million - translated into cash flow.
The cash flow, of course, is the key to YES's valuation. Mansell notes that stakes in other regional sports networks have traded hands recently at 19 times cash flow. So if YES, which is the cable home of the Yankees and Nets, can grow its cash this year by 8 percent or more - as Mansell thinks it will - a $3 billion valuation seems well within reach."
No, Marianne, YOU try to keep up as difficult as it's becoming for you. The media decisions you named specifically are not made by ball clubs -- they are made by TV stations who only care about the money resulting from viewership and sponsorship. You keep missing the original real point though that bad baseball decisions that have a negative effect on the team can't be good business decisions. Any decision that hurts baseball, that hurts the team, that hurts the organization is not good for business. Common sense. How hard is that to understand? Please go bake some cookies if you can't keep up.
Even if the Anonymice can't grasp corporate finance (and its influence on some sports), I think it can help many of us here to understand the decision-making processes that affect our team if we remain aware that the team itself is a subsidiary of a much bigger business worth hundreds of billions, run by men whose business it is to make even more hundreds of billions -- men like Randy Levine and Hal Steinbrenner, whose understanding of 'winning' is very different from Joe Torre's. That doesn't mean that everything they do is harmful or bad, just that they come from a different world and have different motivations. Times are changing in Yankee-land and it can't hurt to be aware of some of the major currents that may influence the corporation management and its team's future.
Sorry, hundred of 'millions', not hundreds of 'billions' (though the billions are multiple).
Marianne
"Anonymice" LOL Sully is funny.
Anyway...
After reading your exchange with the individual who shall remain "nameless"-(I REALLY HATE ANONYMOUS!!! ALL OF THEM!!!)
I think you may have misunderstood what I think "Jon Doe" was trying to accomplish with his Baseball/Business argument which has you two at odds...I believe he was just trying to tell the "Panic Twins"-(Rick and Roy) to chill out.
It seems these two are always of a doom and gloom philosophy regarding our blessed yankees and they are quite sure of their pessimistic analysis.
Are you gonna make cookies? LOL
PS. ANonymous no need to be disrespectful to Marianne..
Thanks for the peacemaking efforts, Michael.
Cookies, no. More of a pie-maker myself, and I just got a parcel of fresh pecans straight from the grower. Grillmeister does love him some pecan pie. He's been wearing himself out watching one of those more thuggish sports that he prefers, so I think I may need to revive him with some baked goods...
Marianne shouldn't be calling people naive because she can't grasp a point. She sets herself up for fiery rebuttal.
Now Marianne what you say is true and there is no argument about the hierarchy of control in all baseball organizations in that each entity has different goals and different responsibilities. But again the point is that on all levels good baseball decisions must be made for the good of the team. If you destroy the team with bad baseball decisions, you destroy the organization and the money doesn't follow. While you and many others may feel that certain decisions are not in the best interest of the team, you and they are not aware of the many considerations and nuances that go into making decisions at a level above your understanding. The bottom line is that all decisions need to be made for the good of the team, boiling down to good baseball decisions, in order to maintain its success and continue bringing in necessary revenue that helps support the team. I hope this has become abundantly clear even though you consider me naive because your understanding is lacking.
Hah Lucky Grill Meister. ;-)
Larry, and is it true she looks like Faith Hill? No... wait a minute... that was the wife... was she there, too? I remember -- the girlfriend is more Reese Witherspoon.
I get confused with Anthony and all his Hollywood 'lookalikes'. Guess I'm getting old.
Hey buds!
What are you doing tonight? Watching a great game on FOX? Or will the Red Sox coming back to win the ALCS bring up too many bad memories?
Next year will be the best. You in last place in your last year at the old Ballpark!
How appropo!
Can't wait! maybe Joe can throw out the "last ball" on the last day when your in last place!
That would be AWESOME!!!!!
ANONYMOUS
Do you work at the post office?
Chill out.
(Slapping my hand on my forehead)
Thanks Yankee Fans: Ha Ha.
Way to make my life easier on this board!
HAHAHA
I usually hate the "drive by redsox fan" who wishes to rub our faces in our misfortune, but I must admit that whole "Last Ball/Last Year/Last Place" was kinda clever.
Ignorance abounds here tonight.
red sox fans make the most idiotic comments. Even Mets fans are more intelligent and make more objective statements than red sox fans. I am becoming more convinced that red sox fans are hatched from sick chicks.
I resent that!!
Grandpa: Anthony indicated Reese Witherspoon. I don't watch Entertainment Tonight or read People magazine. His girlfriend is a nice looking girl.
Thanks for clearing it up Larry, I think I got it. Wife = Faith Hill, girlfriend = Reese Witherspoon, and its all his students who look like that other heifer, Scarlet Johansen maybe? no... somebody help me out...
Gramps,
There was a Liv Tyler thrown in there somewhere too. It seems our boy Ant hangs with the honeys!
Young minds to the rescue! Thanks Jim A., my memory is slipping. Liv Tyler. Yep, six or seven of them, all his students. Whew!
Carmona is Homo
Wears me out just thinking about it.
Gramps,
Don't forget Faith Hill...whoever that is.
If you can't stand watching the game you can switch back and forth between Hitchcock's The Birds and the great documentary Winged Migration.
I love to look for these movie juxtapositions. Like the old game of best double feature titles on the movie marquee.
Faith Hill? Country singer, you city boy!
Oh okay, yeah, I've heard of her. I don't like country music but I've heard of her. She yelled at some girl for grabbing her husband's.....yeah, I remember her.
Sully,
Did J.D. Drew just "become a Red Sox" (or is it Red Sock)?.
Coulda been Reese she was yellin at. Or Liv.
Too much excitement for me, I'm an old man.
It's always "Red Sox" even in the plural!
Get use to putting a 2007 World Series Champs in front of it.
We rule Carmona in the 1st.
JD Drew earns his Sox!
Maybe that was a good deal after all?
Thanks Yankee fans for having a good sense of humor on the Last place thing!
Sox in 7....and you know it. As much as you don't want to admit it!
A film freak friend of mine said his favorite double feature marquee was "The Man Who Came Back" and "He Ran All The Way".
I think he made it up, though. They were made 20 years apart.
Carmona looks like Wang right now. And not because they both throw "sinkers"
I really thought the indians would kill schilling tonight but Carmona kinda let the air out of the balloon ala Chien Ming Wuss in game 4.
Cut f*cking payroll down by 50% . Trade garbage disposals like Giambi and Damon. Promote Brett Gardner to majors.
Fire Randy " clown " Levine or Assistant Gm Jean " Randy's Levine' Lover" Afterman and Promote Damon Oppenheimer to President or Assistant Gm...
50%
HILARIOUS!!!
WHY NOT 75% I'm sure we could all drive hybrids to the stadium while were at it!!
WOW I HATE BOSTON WAY MORE THAN I HAVE IN YEARS RIGHT NOW
Exactly 3 years to be exact...
The frickin Indians better get there act together real quick!!!! Now I understand what it's like to be a Tribe fan.
If I kill Dane Cook would I qualify as an "Assasin?"
Hey look it's one of the Panic Twins!!
I'm just playing with you commish...
How much are you selling those WS tickets for?
(Provided there is a WS in Cleveland..)
Finally the answer. Brett Gardner.
What were they all thinking?
I'm Brett Gardner and even I have never heard of me.
Relax, that's why we have the Anonymi, Brett, to educate us on you.
This is really starting to emotionally set in now.
Listening to these fans is beginning to make me very jealous.
PS..If I hear the name Wilson Betimititit in the same sentence as 3rd base next year I may start taking other subway.
//WOW I HATE BOSTON WAY MORE THAN I HAVE IN YEARS RIGHT NOW//
You're gonna hate them even more when they sink Cleveland in 7!!
JD does it again.Another RBI 5-1
Carmona done for the night. That's how you get things down Yanker fans!
.....bugs or no bugs!
//WOW I HATE BOSTON WAY MORE THAN I HAVE IN YEARS RIGHT NOW//
You're gonna hate them even more when they sink Cleveland in 7!!
JD does it again. Another RBI: 5-1.
I'd say it's his night! Wouldn't you?
Carmona done for the night. That's how you get things down Yanker fans!
.....bugs or no bugs!
Another run coming up! Hold on!
The performances of Sabathia and Carmona make you wonder how the Yanks ever lost to the Indians. Carmona was terrible as a closer last year and he had that same face on tonight- total fear in his eyes.
I do believe the Sox will win this series and the WS too, as I predicted before the season began. I don't like it, but I predicted it.
Even their F$%KING ROOKIE IS KNOCKING IN RUNS!!
WHY AM I SUBJECTING MYELF TO THIS!!
Told you.
.......6-1
Dice-K will be on a very short rope tomorrow night if he hangs himself early.
and that would be 1 run.
Beckett will finish the job!
Oh yes Beckett will pitch tomorrow night.
If you're a betting man....I'd bet on that!
2 more runs 8-1
wow...
Here's something to chew on...
Lets say Theo ponies up this Elsbury fellow and that young hotshot no hitter kid in a trade for the almighty Johan Santana..
Like I said I may have to take the N train next year.
//The performances of Sabathia and Carmona make you wonder how the Yanks ever lost to the Indians//
That's because the Yankees suck stupid!
ooh it stings...
John Farrel knows Indians Personel very well like CC and Carmona . Besides Trot Nixon's who's rat and spy working for his former team Boston Redsox so He could help his team win.......
Rafael that is!
Do you think Cleveland's a beaten team yet?
10-1
Rookie of the Year: 3 for 3
Youk uses his noggin!!!!!
Youkillis belongs on an Alaskan Crab boat not a major league baseball team.
Garko has big a mouth for a "nobody"
Don't let Youk hear you say that. He might take a shot line drive to Joba the Hut's head!
Sox in 7 baby!
Oh yeah!
WOw all my Yankee brethren have forsaken me to a solemn misery...
I'm left holding company an ecstatic Redsox fan..
Shame on me.
I think I'm gonna do something else now.
The Yankees won 10-8 against Redsox this year. According to Redsox Fans, It doesn't count and useless right. Yup The Redsox are far a better team. It wasn't for Midges in Game 2, The Yankees could probably beat Redsox in Alcs and win the world series this year.
Where is everybody?
Oh I know!
They're all glued to there FOX channel watching the BEST TEAM in BASEBALL march their way to another chamionship!
Boy how much is that going to suck in Yankeeville???
Yup Best team all time 26 Yankees
Redsox = 6
:)
//If it wasn't for Midges in Game 2, The Yankees could probably beat Redsox in Alcs and win the world series this year.//
Keep telling yourself that! It will get you through the long cold winter!
Maybe you can have a few pickup games this winter and practice against Tampa Bay and Baltimore. Make sure you bunch up your schedule next year so you play every last place team all in a row to give your fan base false hope!
Hey you beat us 10 games to 8! There's something you can hang your hat on. Maybe they'll make you a special little flag that you can run up your flag pole next year at Yankee Stadium that says:
"We beat the World Champs: The Boston Red Sox 10 Games to 8 and all me got was this lousy flag!"
That should make you proud!!!!
Rock on loser!
Living in the past again.
Was waiting for that typical card you losers play when you get beat to a pulp!
I'm sure you're real proud of those 26 titles that your daddy's Yankees teams won.
You: Maybe you have witnessed 1
Seven long years!!!
You'll never win another in your lifetime!
Pats 6-0
Bruins: 4-2
Celtics 3-0
BC: #2 in the country
and the Red Sox:
Beat the Yankees in 2007 to theh AL EAST Pennant!
and on our way to another WS Title!!!
See you at the Roll'in Parade through the #1 place to be in all of America. The #1 sports town: BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!
Redsox and their fans are loser for 86 years until curse ended in 2004 not the Yankees.
Suddenly Redsox Fans become arrogant, Redsox won a world series for a first time.. Whoop de dooo!! Yet they still complaining that Boston have never won in 86 years. How about Celtics who 13 championships and Pats won 3. Please erased Underdog mentality Redsox Fans. Thanks to Larry "Lucifer" Lucchinno who made that stupid statement "Yankees are Evil Empire" , Lucchinno please look at yourself at mirror before making that statement...
How do you feel as Jets and Knicks Fans like myself who never won fourty years without a title?
Redsox and their fans are loser for 86 years until curse ended in 2004 not the Yankees.
Suddenly Redsox Fans become arrogant, Redsox won a world series for a first time.. Whoop de dooo!! Yet they still complaining that Boston have never won in 86 years. How about Celtics who won 13 championships and Pats won 3. Please erased Underdog mentality Redsox Fans. Thanks to Larry "Lucifer" Lucchinno who made that stupid statement "Yankees are Evil Empire" , Lucchinno please look at yourself at mirror before making that statement...
How do you feel as Jets and Knicks Fans like myself who never won fourty years without a title?
Okay class repeat after me:
The Boston Red Sox: 2007 American League Champions!
Keep practicing. You have 24 hours to get use to that. Tell all your friends!
12-2, 8th inning. I don't need to tell you whose winning!
Thanks to Terrorists aka Redsox Fans who terrorized World Trade Center killing 1000 people. If you want to know what happen during 9/11 I suggest you read the book.. It all summarize The Terrorist aka Redsox Fans who came from Boston Logan Airport. The winning karma and mystique went away from Ny sports team goes to Boston Redsox and Patriots.