The Knicks Fix

why is espn reporting that Marbury makes 20.8 mil this year when every knicks fan knows that it's 21.9?

reading fixers obsess with marbury reminds me of watching the republican party commit hari kari by making terri schiavo a big issue.

and on the basketball front:

LeBron James said on Tuesday night that he sees Knicks' coach Mike D'Antoni as an "offensive mastermind".

James played under D'Antoni with Team USA at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

"We got really close," James revealed. "Coach D'Antoni gave me a lot of freedom; he allowed me to play every position I wanted to play; I was the leader of that team, but I was also like the overseer of some offensive plays.

"He gave me a lot of freedom; it was great to be out there. I watched that system all those years in Phoenix; how they got so many shots and easy baskets. To be a part of that chemistry, be part of the offensive mastermind that Coach D'Antoni is, that was great."

yo alan,
there is another pic of you on knicksdefense. this time you're watching the game :D

OK Is it me or does anyone else see that Walsh realizes something is up. If Steph did so much wrong, then why is it a 1 game suspension and dock. Why isn't it stay away for good. 1 game maybe just maybe Walsh sees that coach is at fault as well. THe knicks which is owned by cablevision which also owns newsday have to do something with all the BS going on. THis blog and all the steph bashers need to remember we are only told what the PR department wants us to know and hear. If it was such insubordination as certain people claim i am sure there would be more than a 1 game suspension

You know, I sat down to respond to Alan’s post. This pretty much confirms what I wrote last night, and certainly makes sense from management’s point of view.

Then I started thinking about a feature piece TNT ran last night at about 1:30 am. About Wayman Tisdale. Do you guys know his story?

Apparently, he had a reasonably successful second career as a music producer (and performer?) after leaving the league . . . broke his leg one night walking downstairs for a glass of water . . . only to find out it was bone cancer. After an excruciating 18 months of chemo and rehab, he finds out . . . it didn’t work. They take it off, above the knee.

The point isn’t his troubles; the point is, his amazing attitude about his troubles. And I started thinking about Marbury – a guy who hit the starting line with as much physical talent as anybody. Yet, as others here have pointed out, his main interest isn’t getting back on the court. It’s just about getting what’s owed him. Again, that’s his right. But what a shame. And what a boring story.

Fascinating things are happening with this team, and I’m not just talking about 2010. (Hell, it’s headline news when they win a basketball game.) I’m also not so sure we downgraded in talent with these trades (assuming that Mobley can play, of course). On paper, Zach was probably the most talented player among them . . . yet Zach is nobody’s future. Craw’s talented too. But they have one thing in common. They play as if they’re alone on the court Yes, we gave up a lot of offense but got back at least some defense, and I wonder if the overall team may eventually function better now, in addition to clearing out all that cap space.

The point is, for the first time in years, there’s reason to hope, and there’s reason to watch. One of my hopes is that Walsh isn’t finished yet. If we’ve learned anything it’s that he’s slow, methodical, deliberate. He was criticized for bringing back, in effect, the Isiah All-Stars. But look at the results when he finally makes some moves. C’mon, guys – we’re 15 games into digging out of the Isiah Tar Pits. We knew it would take time. Yet, I’d say things are already improved beyond where I thought they would be so early in the season. There’s lots of cool stuff happening. Yet, for lots of reasons – some of his own making, some out of his hands - Stephon missed that bus. So be it. Wish him the best. See ya. Next . . .

Virgil:

While I'm sure that's right to some extent, you also have to go off of past events. D'Antoni never had a problem with his players anywhere else and Marbury has a history of being a greedy, selfish, coach-killing snake.

As far as Walsh ONLY dealing out one game, I think it's because he's playing it smart. If he goes excessive, the Players Association will have a case against the Knicks and the punishment will be rescinded and the organization might be punishable.

It's a very tight rope to walk. I can't imagine anyone defending Marbury, yet there are some who still do.

The guy is a perennial loser whose teams immediately improve upon excising him from the roster. Still, if there's some funny business going on at the Knicks end, I don't think I really object. I think it might be about time that Steph gets what he's been dishing out all these years.

RESPONSE TO COMMENT IN PREVIOUS BLOG

Alan, first off, if there is any hint in my previous comment that I believe someone else is writing your articles for you then I owe you an apology and want to be clear that I am not challenging your ability to write such a piece. I questioned whether it was you for three resaons only:

1. You now have a number of good writers posting and I do believe that a couple of times when it was someone else posting the “Posted by Alan Hahn” by line appeared at the bottom of the article as it might automatically appear if the name of the poster is not changed on the administration panel. Perhaps I am not paying enough attention.

2. I have been following your impressive work for quite a while (I believe when I really like something I freely say it) and I perceived certain elements which I don’t recall being part of your “style” in the blog post. It had nothing to do with my view of your capabilities; and

3. That Blog Post was the best damn support paper on Walsh’s position and what he intended to do that I have read or heard. It was better than anything Walsh has said in defense of himself and his actions. It was so much better than what has come out of MSG that they should hire you.

But because I liked it, doesn’t mean I agree with it.

With that said, I would never expect you to write an “over the top pro-Marbury” piece but I think it is fair to expect that the news pieces of a writer, who is rising quickly as an international voice of Knicksnewsdom, would provide a more balanced piece than his oft criticized nemesis at the Post. (And actually FI has been pretty balanced on this one. LOL). I am neither a supporter or fan of Marbury’s actions, but to suggest that this current situation is his fault alone is simply bogus.

I think you are certainly in a tough spot because you will always be criticized for working for Cablevision, because you do and they own the Knicks. Their influence is apparent in every article you guys write “the Knicks – who are owned by Cablevision, which also owns Newsday.” It’s gotta suck if you are interested in doing your best reportage. But the truth is you overcome that by being balanced and fair in your news articles at least. Your opinion of Marbury is clear and shared by many, many folks but some of us expect you to be fair as possible in your analysis and reporting even if you don’t have access to one of the principals.

From the cubicle I sit at the blog post was great; the article was not totally fair or balanced.

FINALLY FINED

Finally, some movement. Some answers. Many more questions. Marbury was not suspended for the first “refusal,” so was that a breach of contract? NO No action was taken by Corporate because they didn’t do it right the first time. He was never ordered to play the next two games or told that his services were needed. If so, he would have been fined and suspended. So that question is now asked and answered.

Marbury was suspended for the second refusal after D’Antoni “offered” him the starting job for the entire season instead of a chance to play spot minutes until Mobley was on board. Was that a breach of contract? According to Walsh he suspended Marbury because “he refused the coach’s request to play in the last game.”

Did D’Antoni order Marbury to play? Was D’Antoni required to order Marbury to play or was it enough just to ask? Did they outslick agentless Marbury, by changing the request into a promise that they would use his services for the remainder of the year? Did the Knicks, knowing that Marbury would not play and that D’Antoni did not want him to play, finally trick him into saving them $400,000, the amount of the fine/suspension to be taken out of Marbs pay? Is this a breach of contract or team rules? It looks like we now have an argument. But, it is probably not a breach of contract that an arbitrator would support under the circumstances. It is more likely a face saving move by Corporate so that they don’t look totally idiotic when they either release Marbury or send him home with “all my money” minus the $400,000 five finger discount.

Finally, when Marbury comes back to the team (my guess is he won’t be back) will he be told to play with Quentin and his new teammates? Juicy, juicy, juicy. And if Marbury is not allowed to come back will Walsh save the Knicks more than $400,000 or the $1 Million Marbury offered to forego?

Was all this worth a possible $400,000 savings to the Knicks?

Note: Keep in mind that Marbury has been receiving advice from the NBAPA attorneys every step of the way here for the past few weeks. Would they advise him to breach the contract? Was that offer for full playing time legit or a smart, albiet transparent, chess move to set Marbury up?

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O.K., let’s go to the contract. For some odd reason, I happen to have a copy of the Standard NBA Uniform Contract (No I am not an NBA player. LOL.). I don’t have a copy of Marbury’s contract, but it should have the following clauses in it:

Paragraph 20(b) reads, in small part, “The Club may terminate this contract upon written notice to the Player (but only after complying with the waiver procedure. . .) If the Player shall do any of the following:

(3) at any time, fail, refuse or neglect to render his services hereunder or in any other manner materially breach this contract.” and

(e) If this contract is terminated by the Club during any playing season. . . . the Player shall be entitled to receive as full payment hereunder a sum of money which, when added to the salary which he has already received during the season will be [all his money], plus the reasonable traveling expenses of the Player to his home.

Now what about this suspension. Is it legit? Will the Knicks win? Paragraph 4 of my outadate contract says:

“For any violations of [the Club’s reasonable rules for government of players subject to the NBA/NBPA CBA] or for any conduct impairing the faithful and thorough discharge of the duties incumbent upon the player, the club may impose reasonable fines upon the Player. . . .If no Grievance is timely initiated [by the Player], the Club may deduct the amount thereof from any money due or to become due to the Player during the season in which such violation and/or conduct occurred. The Club may also suspend the Player for violation of any rules so established. . . .When the Player is fined or suspended, he shall be given notice in writing, stating the amount of the fine or the duration of the suspension and the reason therfor.”

So now we look forward to the interesting parts:

1. Will they terminate the contract and pay him all but the disputed $400,000 dollars?
2. Can they terminate the contract and simply not pay him since he won’t play?
3. Will Stern step in to resolve this one like he did the Knicks-Larry Brown debacle despite the CBA?
4. What will the press say if the net savings to the Knicks is only $400,000?
5. Will the Knicks bring him back and offer him another opportunity to play and lose $199,400 per game.

I look forward to seeing this play out. But it looks to me as if the Knicks blew it the first time they offered playing time and figured they could get him on a second fake offer. Does anyone believe that D’Antoni would surrender his team and the season to Marbury? Can anyone convince an arbitrator that the Knicks, in the throes of buyout talks, were legitimately offering to change their status with Marbury regarding playing time? I gotta see this. This is hilariously vaudevillian. But thank God they finally made a move.

SCAM ALERT!

The New York Knicks have Docked Marbury one games Pay.
Another Scam by the Walsh/D'Antoni. The truth is they have
paid Marbury "Hush" money to go along with this Sharade.
Not only will Marbury Keep "suspension Money" the source
could not determine the amount Marbury will be paid to go along
with this PR Scam and Divert the attention away from " The New
Bridge TO NOWHERE" constructed by WalAntoni INC.

Quote of the Year from the NY TIMES:

D’Antoni told reporters Wednesday that Donnie Walsh, the Knicks’ president, would “overturn every rock and try to get us better.”

I’m not sure that what you find under a rock is going to help the Knicks.

Quite true, Peace.

Whatever piece of geology someone rolled over awhile back to scrape off the ooze that was your ancestors clearly proved, as you show us daily, to have no benefits for mankind.

thanks for the post TRANE, a good read.

Bobby
I am not totally defending stephon. But Dolan refused to buy him out, Walsh lied and said EVERYONE has a clean slate and Dantoni lied about everything from playing him in preason to not speaking to him to telling q whats going on. I manage people and if I talked to another employee about someone else, I am in trouble with human resources . Regardless of his PAST, we are talking about the PRESENT and presently he did nothing wrong. If a person even my boss gives me a choice to do something and I don't want to do it, that is not insubordination. Now if my boss tells me or orders me to do it, I may not like it but if I don't then it is insubordination. Dantoni should ve been a man or boss and demanded he play not ask him if he wants to play.

How exactly is Jerome James injured? Why can't he play? Why aren't we buying out his contract and using that roster space for a guard or PE Jr? Do we really think we can trade JJ anywhere? Perhaps Donnie is keeping the contract to make a trade and make the numbers match up but is it worth watching our team play Roberson 25+ minutes just to keep him on our roster. Forget Marbury, this guy is the biggest waste of salary cap space in Knick history.

I keep reading and hearing that I should buy out Marbury's contract to make this fiasco go away.

In this tough economic times, are you willing to contribute a million $ here and a million $ there to make it happen? If yes, call me at my direct number.

If you gonna come back and say that this is my mess and we screwed this up and this & that then zip it. We'll deal with it our way.

I agree Knicks4Life...Roberson is the worse signing ever. I guess they can always say if we didn't have Roberson right now, we would only have 1 guard in Duhon so that's a sticky situation. Of course I would want PE Jr. but that's why they make the big bucks.

I have never and will never be a fan of Marbury because he is a poison and cancer to the team. With that said, he did nothing wrong this year. Dantoni and Walsh were all saying how everybody would be given a chance to prove themselves during training camp and preseason. Everybody would be given a clean slate. It's quite obvious that wasn't the case for Marbury. He's the Knick that actually came in the best shape to training camp. There were no disctractions, no crazy words from Steph, he came in the best shape of his life. In preseason he would easily one of our best players. He seemed to be getting along with Duhon and working well with him on the court. Then out of nowhere, Marbury was left out to dry. Yes we all know he left the team out to dry last year in Phoenix but that was last year. If what Walsh said was true about everybody getting a clean slate, how on God's Green Earth does this guy not get any playing time? Marbury is clearly winning this little battle of wits because that suspension may be upheld but he will get his $400,000 back. The longer this goes on, the more Dantoni will look like a idiot. As I've said before....Walsh better fix this or he may lose the loyalty of Dantoni. Why is Walsh letting this drag on? Stop being a lawyer Donnie....for once.

This incident will cost Walsh Executive of the Year Honors and it may also cost Dantoni Coach of the Year Honors (only if the Knicks make the playoffs).

Man, we have some smart people on this blog! Lives, I read you liked read a regular article in the sport pages; good stuff. Big ups to Knowledge and the brother from ATL too....if we want TRUTH, they can do things:

1. Give D'Antoni and Steph a lie detector test...

2. Ask Herb Williams what really happened

Big Tyme

Herb Williams will say anything to safeguard his paycheck.

If you want the truth, bring in the accounting & auditing firm of Arthur Andersen to uncover the truth.

D'A can't order anyone to play. He offered Starby the opportunity and Starby he said he preferred not to. Starby is an idiot to think that is not a refusal. It is a refusal. Any boss takes that as a refusal and a bad attitude. Dock his pay every game till he is gone.

DTR

Posted by Anonymous | November 28, 2008 14:10
LMAO......you used the word "us?"
LOL.LOL...... The only "US" you should use is the
Green on Mitch Lawrence's teeth and you = us.
The problem with the gene pool, for you, Mak, John Q and Knicksdefense is that there's no lifeguard.

It's amazing that Marbury can sit so comfortably on that bench, with Lives, I mean his lawyer's, nose so far up his rectum.
If only he hadn't fired me.

Lives strikes me as the kind of guy that if you ask him what time it is...

...he starts an hour long fictional monologue on the history of building clocks.

Peaceman seems intimately familiar with Mitch Lawrence's teeth...

...makes me wonder what other parts of him he's deeply explored?!?

...btw Peace...people sporting an extra chromosome...

...shouldn't be poking fun at other people's genepools.

As previously stated, MARK JACKSON would not have handled Marbury's last year like this. He would have played him for one final year; we would have been an eighth seed, and this would have been a peaceful divorce.

Instead, we are witnessing ANOTHER year filled with drama. But wait, this was not D'Antoni's fault. He thought bringing in Duhon was a great choice to run PG on a losing team; he thought a clean slate meant putting your most expensive player on the bench AND out of position; he does not address the playing rotation with the most expensive player; he tells his most expensive player that he is out of the rotation; he ASKS the player would he LIKE to play, after all the drama from the preseason and first 10 games.

During preseason, Walsh says the player is in "great shape" and looks forward to seeing being a "productive player."

D'Antoni's EGO ruined this season. He wanted to do to Marbury what no previous coach has been able to do: embarrass him.

D'Antoni wins.

But the Knicks better win in the 2010 offseason, or else D'Antoni will be viewed as the loser of the 2008-2011 era.

Marbury, good luck in Miami!

Marbury/Iverson trade makes perfect sense financially and would bring more offense to the knicks at the SG position. Marbury/Hamilton makes sense too.

Sorry Anonymous, The only person stupid enough to trade for Marbury is Isiah Thomas.

Yo HarleminMd...

Before you start prophesizing about how 'Mark Jackson' might have handled this or that, or what color socks he'll be wearing tomorrow...can you tell us something useful?
Like where the Dow or Nasdaq or price of gold will be in a month?
Thanks...

In the meantime...it's not the COACH'S job to play players based on what contract some idiot GM signed them to 5 years ago.
Again, based on SALARIES...James, Curry, Marbury and Rose would ALL be starting...

Heck...Penny Hardaway would still be starting.

No...it's the coaches job to put the BEST players on the floor that have a chance to GEL, adopt the sytem HE wants to play, and WIN together as a TEAM.

Now I know being a Knicks fan and Harlem boy, that might not jive with the playground rules on 125th street...but on 7th and 34th...things are different now...and we've actually won!

D'Antoni hasn't ruined anyone's season...other than STARbury's (duh...I'm a starter, always have been...always will be...actually...I'm the best point guard in the NBA...seen my new tattoo on my head? that proves I'm a star!).

Now then...most other players on the Knicks, the former two time MVP of the league, and the best player in the NBA, who we hope to convince to come to the Knicks...

...all LOVE D'Antoni.

And these same players all loathe Marbury...which is why he'll never play in this league again.

Ignorance and arrogance is a deadly combination...probably less in MD than in Harlem.

@Mike...

Even Isiah would need to be strung out on Lunesta to trade for Starbury now...and even if he did...he'd probably say his daughter did it...

i see that this peaceman is the resident punching bag in this blog
was he ever in jail too?
mollested as a child?

marbury will be goin from canterburry to the cemeterry in a liquification and sum justification

from sunny Scottsdale to the pits of NY,
this is Mike D's agent reportin for duty

bow wow!
woof woof!

@Mike D's Agent

The Environmental Protection Agency just declared your azz a Superfund cleanup site. Punch that Zero!
I bet your Mother was a Punching bag?

This quote has to the most ignorant ever blogged here:

Now then...most other players on the Knicks, the former two time MVP of the league, and the best player in the NBA, who we hope to convince to come to the Knicks...

...all LOVE D'Antoni.

And these same players all loathe Marbury...which is why he'll never play in this league again. By Mike D's Agent

Ace, I'm not a Marbury fan. However, Unlike your IQ
which seems lower than the Number on Marbury's
Jersey, Many teams starting with the Celtics would
sign him the moment he's waived.
Your intellectual poverty is noted, and mocked.

"@Mike...
Even Isiah would need to be strung out on Lunesta to trade for Starbury now...and even if he did...he'd probably say his daughter did it..." - Marb's Agent

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Good point.

Now we have Mike @ Mike?

You are obviously suffering from Clue Deficit Disorder.

Who will they blame for the losing if Marbury is not on the bench?

No. He was replying, you moron. Note the quotation. Good lord. You starbury fans suck at life.

Any more reverse knowledge from Mike and Mike D's
Agent? Any more stupid, and they would have to be watered twice a week.

Babylon is watching this freakshow unborn to end through it's stench of futility. My by gones cannot function without it's interjection of liquidated assets. Even borrowed time has outlasted it's stench, the filth of a wretched society swallowed whole by it's ambiguous influence. Splattered, teased, poled and fiddled were your preachers tempts to be used sideways over valley streams. I guess what I'm trying to say is,

THE SHIP BE SINKIN

Jesus says
it is easier for the camel to pass through the eye of the neeedle then for a Rich man to get into Heaven.

Look at the EGOS.

SplinterArseBury's problem is???????
He finally met a MORE SPOILED and MORE VINDICTAVE

SPOILED AS BABY than his smirk stinkass self
and that my fellow fans

Is the SPOILED ROTTEN BRAT

JAMES DOLANBURY

Yes my Friends

DOLANBURY vs SPLINTERSMIRKBURY

Tale of the Tape:

Spoiled YES

To Much Money YES

UnderAcheiver YES

Thinks He's Smarter then He is YES

Annoying Waste of Grey Matter YES
and Oxygen

A Real KNICK fan?????????????? NO NO NO NO NO!!!

AN OPEN LETTER

TO THE UNDRACHEIVER TWINS

DOLANBURY AND SPLINTERASSBURY

Dear Underachievers,

We regret to inform you that you both Suck.

Sirs: You are both spoiled Underachievers. You both seem to have emotional and mental issues
.
Will you both make love in a Big White Limo

so that the sophisticated NY KNICKERBOCKER Fan
can enjoy our JOINT.

I can't help but wonder if this whole situation could have been handled better... But I fall back on one thing... For each of the past 10 seasons, pretty much without exception, Marbury has had a meltdown-- with teammates, with coaches, with his own mind. He's shown brief periods of brilliance... the kind of brilliance that makes you wonder why he's not heading to the Hall of Fame. But it never lasts. In the end he has a long list of hollow numbers (probably the least impactful 20 and 8 in NBA history) that point to what could have been. He doesn't make his teammates better. He doesn't listen to his coaches (since Flip Saunders). He isn't upbeat (let's face it he's pretty sullen). I've rooted for him since he was in high school, but enough is enough. I'm tired of talking and writing about him. I wish you the best of luck Stephan. I'm sure you'll tear it up in the European league.

Posted by cosmo | November 28, 2008 22:08

Who will they blame for the losing if Marbury is not on the bench?

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Marbury fans will conitnue to blame everybody else but Marbury. Marbury will blame his next coach. Some will blame Lebron in a couple years. Us regular fans and the team can blame ourselves, the team. If we don't win, we will try again. And keep trying. The losers will keep looking to pass blame.

"Look at the word responsibility—“response-ability”—the ability to choose your response. Highly proactive people recognize that responsibility. They do not blame circumstances, conditions, or conditioning for their behavior. Their behavior is a product of their own conscious choice, based on values, rather than a product of their conditions, based on feeling."

~ Stephen R. Covey Quotes from The Seven Habits of Highly Effective

@ Peaceman. I read all things Knicks but never comment on this blog - but just had to after reading your posts today. You really have me laughing out loud.

-Any more stupid, and they would have to be watered twice a week."

-The Environmental Protection Agency just declared your azz a Superfund cleanup site.

-You are obviously suffering from Clue Deficit Disorder.

-Unlike your IQ which seems lower than the Number on Marbury's
Jersey,

Thank you, Peaceman.

Who is this Stephon Marbury guy anyway?

Did he bilk millions from stockholders and employees while destroying a corporation that paid him millions?

That's what I thought...

In comparison to CEOs in America, Starbury is a frickin SAINT and I can't stand Starburied. I think he's a frickin TOOL without a SOUL.

Hey Alan, please get someone to moderate posts on your blog. There are some really hurting people posting here, making it a despicable place to be. Please clean it up to a decent standard worthy of your journalism. Find an intern or volunteer or get Newsday to pay someone to screen posts please. It's like wading through a cesspool here every day. We don't need to read all these ugly posts by frustrated people fighting with others' typed words on a computer screen, showing us their mental health problems.

Dave

Wah Dave, call mommy

DAVE THE RAVE is right ALAN, your product is being cheapened by the thoughtless dribble of bloggers behaving like infants.

perhaps you need a moderator. and whatever happened to the idea of registration? and you REALLY need to fix the security/posting problem, i feel quite sure that much intelligent input goes by the wayside because it is too technically frustrating to post in here.

if you don't do something to clean it up soon, i'm afraid it will go the way of the dreadful blogs at the NEWS and the POST, you're getting BERMANIZED!!!

All you have to do remove Peaceman, the anti-chr1st of knicks blogs, and this place would be worlds better.

Funny thing is, Peaceman has made a career out of ruining other people's blogs, but his own second-rate blog is about as interesting as watching flies on poop.

Then again I'd rather watch flies on poop than see Isiah Thomas in the Garden ever again.

Just Bloggin'

@Pat and Peaceman

are u identical or franternal twins?

is Pat an imaginary friend by peaceman?

we found out before that the only ones who truely apreciate peacemans postings is peaceman himself [and his made up names]

Thanks, guys. Let's keep the full-court press on for moderation.

I have 10 web forums and moderate them all. Posters must register first. When I see a wacko post, I simply delete and ban the poster. If knuckleheads register under a different name and make another wacko post, I just delete and ban again. It takes 10 seconds, Alan. The knuckleheads give up and go away.

And Alan, again, it is taking ma many tries (10 at this point) to post this. Please relax the multiple post screening setting.

Guys: if we don't get a moderator the next best thing to do is never respond to wacky posts or even mention a wacko poster's name. Ignoring quiets the baby and he eventually ends up embarrassed knowing he is just playing with himself; responding feeds the baby's fire. If a knucklehead pushes your buttons, laugh it off and go outside and shoot some hoops!

Dave

Actually, peaceman's proctollogist and his many parole officers apprciate the clever postin by Pat.

for peaceman, i mean pat to nose-picked and choose what he perceived as his best lines then to copy/paste them to compile them was absolutly and truely brilliant. that took 'f' for effort

the biggest shills and liars for donnie walsh and dantonio:

Alan Hahn
Marburys agent
Mike
Dave

Free Marbury!!!!!

Guys, I hate to bring news from that other site but I just had to get this out.

Alan, there questions are for you also. If you get a chance to reply, I think we would all appreciate it.

1st..Is it true that Dantoni told Steph that if he played good, the Knicks would sign him for another year?

2nd...If the above question is true...doesn't that mean Dantoni and Walsh are not on the same page?

3rd...How could the Knicks even think of signing him for another year when nobody on the team likes him?

4th...One of the reasons why the Knicks have had a better start this year and more positive energy is because Dantoni exiled Marbury and showed the team he's with them..is that true?

This get's more crazy every day.

What's even more crazy is Dallas is "VERY INTERESTED" in Steph.

Better hope Donnie is prepared to take Steph's offer of 1 million less. If not, this craziness will continue.

Incredible!!!

Whomever's posting as "Peace"..Alan knows it's not me.
Sorry Jackie J and Anon...I'm for Prop 8.

Hey everyone,

I just put together a "Where Amazing Happens" video for the Knicks. Watch it and let me know what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECdAV5Hfd5o

Whomever's posting as "Peace"..Alan knows it's not me.
Peaceman | November 29, 2008 14:30

AND DOES ALAN KNOW THAT U CURSED HIM AND EFFED HIM OUT BEHIND HIS BACK WHILE HE WAS OUT ON VACATION? I THINK UR RANTING ABOUT BRAINLESS BALKMAN WAS DELETED PRIOR TO ALAN COMEING BACK FROM HIS HOLIDAY.
OTHERWISE U WOOD BE BANNED HERE TOO JUST LIKE UR BANNED IN 2 OTHER SITES.

BUT LONG TIME BLOGGERS HERE SAW & READ IT.

ANYWAY. STEPH DOES NOT DESERVE ANY OF THIS. HE HAS HISTORY BUT A CLEAN SLATE IS A CLEAN SLATE. THE WHITE ISIAIH HANDLED THIS POORLY FROM THE GET-GO

PEACE TOALL

Not for moderating. Blog is a place for free speech.

I find it interesting to see the difference of thought process going on here.

who gets to decide who to ban? Almost all of us have lost our tempers after reading an idiotic entry.

I mena if I call him SplinterArse am I banned?

god it will be good to get back to basketball

last week we had Jamal and Zach, Splinter was buried and we were above 500.

First time Ive felt good as a Knick fan in years.

and its gone.

No one is coming out of this smelling like roses. Looking forward to putting this episode behind us and talking basketball again.

On my way to the game but let me see if I can help out my friend DaJoka:

(1) I believe he said it and both Marbury and he knew he was lying
(2) Not when it comes to Marbury. He quit on his coach once, this coach will never allow him to infect his team again. To me it is obvious that D'Antoni is trying to force Walsh's hand based on this mess Walsh put himself in.
(3) Alot of people don't like people on their team (see Artest, Rodman or Christan Laettner) but they keep them around based on their talent and/or winning. This is all hype about nothing though, we won't nor were we ever going to resign Marbury. Even if Walsh and D'Antoni would consider it, no way Dolan cuts that check and in this case, he is absolutely right.
(4) I think the great start has more to do with an easy schedule and the team finally having a real "coach". More than anything this team needs stabilty so after we finally sack Marbury and Curry hopefully, this team has a chance to play together for another year without too many more trades unless it involves a real PG and/or shotblocker. Stability will probably produce more wins than anything.

Hope everything is good with you and yours. I think I remember reading you had a seed, hope he or she enjoyed their first Thanksgiving. Off to the garden to cheer Crawford during the intros and then taunt him mercilessly throughout the game, not that he'll hear me from the cheap seats.

A blog is about free speech, not everybody is going to agree with Alan. As long as it is not personal what is the problem? It is when certain people get defensive when someone gives their opinion. If we only posted to agree with Alan and write great post, there would be no reason for comments on the blog.

Alan should make better use of his time, developing sources and digging for a good story than commenting on what people write about here. Post it and move on. No need to moderate.

They do look good in the first half tonight. I know it is Golden State, but still they need to beat these teams.

Farewell Jamal....

@ Jackie Kersey Joyner

Don't let your mind wander -- it's too little to be let out alone..
The only brain that exists in your head belongs to the fly that buzzing around in it.

@ Anonymous

Its hard to believe you beat 1'000'000 other sperm.
As always, Diarrhea of the mouth; constipation of the ideas.

BEST POSTINS ON THIS THREAD

Funny thing is, Peaceman has made a career out of ruining other people's blogs, but his own second-rate blog is about as interesting as watching flies on poop.

@Pat and Peaceman
are u identical or franternal twins?
is Pat an imaginary friend by peaceman?
we found out before that the only ones who truely apreciate peacemans postings is peaceman himself [and his made up names]

Peaceman seems intimately familiar with Mitch Lawrence's teeth...

DID PEACEMN REALLY CURSED OUT OUR HOST ALAN HAHN? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REPOST THAT

PROPS TO CHRIS D.
22 ASSISTS. SOMETHING THAT MARB WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACHEIVE IN HIS LIFETIME.

the name is peace.
not peaceman

Regarding moderating the postings - this has nothing to do with agreeing with Alan, but with slinging sophomoric put-downs and insults at other posters. Personal crap, not attacks on an argument. Not too hard to weed out.

Obviously there is no filter for stupidity, like comparing Marbury to corrupt CEO's (defining irrelevant comment), mindlessly criticizing an articulate poster or defending Marbury period. That garbage is up to the reader to skip. Engage with the people who have something to contribute, ignore the half-wits, fanboys and children. I have a theory though - Marbury's defenders find it reassuring that someone can ultimately fail time and again at what they are supposed to do, yet be highly compensated regardless. Sort of like winning the lottery - if that toxic jacka$$ can cash in, there's hope for me!

Tonight's game was another testament to heart and the benefits of an actual system. Props to Duhon and Lee for their performances. And to Crawford, for his 6 for 20 in another Garden loss - like old times.

In their four games with Crawford, the Warriors are giving up 123 ppg. Coincidence? It's amazing how devastating it is to a team when you have a total sieve on the perimeter. And a godsend to have the worst defensive guard in the league playing elsewhere.

Congrats to Coach D'Antoni and the Knicks on the win. David Lee is god!

For Short-Handed Knicks, a Night of Positive Numbers

“I love our guys, I love the way they responded,” D’Antoni said. “It just comes down to guys having some CHEMISTRY, having some HEART, WANTING to do it. And they will eventually come together.”

(SNIP)

On Duhon...And he has left little doubt that the Knicks made a good decision when they signed him in July and then handed him the starting point-guard job. He has surely earned the fans’ faith.

“I hope so with the fans, that this is something that they can count on — not 22 assists, but consistent play at the point-guard position,” Duhon said, “and I think I’ve won my teammates over in training camp. The main stat I worry about is wins.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/30/sports/basketball/30knicks.html?ref=basketball

All the real Fixers please skip pass this post.

From "Peace"
DID PEACEMN REALLY CURSED OUT OUR HOST ALAN HAHN? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REPOST THAT.

You think Alan has no clue what goes on his Blog
even when not here? If so you are so Dense that
light bends around you.

"is Pat an imaginary friend by peaceman?"
Ask Alan. He always answers questions off line.
Sorry he ignores you dude. I have no beef with
any posters here except you..aka Mak/John Q
Jackie J and KD/Anonymous/Mark.

There's nothing wrong with all you having nothing to say - unless you insist on saying it. If ignorance were a disability, you'd all get the full pension.

Good line from the Post: The Warriors were at the end of their road trip, playing the fourth game in five nights, but they didn't even try defensively. There was more defense in street games at West 4th. If anything, this was a big win for the confidence levels of the new guys Al Harrington and Tim Thomas, who threw down a mammoth dunk on Anthony Randolph, who is in a list the Knicks should have snatched at No. 6.

Oh so True.

Of course Peaceman cussed out Al Hahn.

Peaceman's done it before.

Hell, a few years ago, Peaceman even slugged his own parole officer and earned an additional two years in Riker's. Peaceman told the judge the parole officer had "disrespected" him.

That's Peaceman, always the street thug.

this is a free country.
no one SHOULD TELL US what to skip and not to skip. WE'll do it on OUR own volition.

free speech should be promoted here however, theres no place for cussed words and personal attacs here.

Pat or Peaceman? who cares? its probably peacman loggin on to another IP address like a
mcdonalds, library or starbucks and postin as a new or another blogger who pretend to admire peacemens work. ya, we've witnessed that many times

DID PEACEMN REALLY CURSED OUT OUR HOST ALAN HAHN? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REPOST THAT.
SO WE CAN SEE THIS POSTERS' TRUE COLORS SO TO SPEAK.

ANONYMOUS SHOULD ALSO POST HIS NAME OR BLOG HANDLE. ANON POST SHOULD BE DELETED IMMEDATELY.

22 ASSISTS FOR DUHON.
22 ASSISTS EXEMPLIFIES BEIN A TEAM PLAYER. WHAT ELSE CAN ONE REALLY SAY.
CONGRATS!

Sounds like some of you OldTimFixers are having some drama

I'm staying out of it.

Do agree that the Post is for FREE SPEECH. Though Racism and Personal Attacks are out of line.

NICE JOB by the Team last night.

NoOne ever talks about DLee, but he is a hard worker and consistent. If the guy was 2 Inches Taller he would be Big Time.

NICE JOB DUHON. Nice job Chris.

Team is on the right track, because we have the RIGHT COACH.

You Guys who scream for CHAMPIONSHIPS should look at the Chemistry of those teams. LAKERS, CELTICS,BULLS, SAN ANTONIO.
Look at those Teams.

Just pay Splinter to sit all year and send him home. CASE OVER

NICE JOB D"ANTONI AND THE KNICKS

The new additons are going to work out.

If we have CUTINO, CURRY AND JEFFERIES, We can definetly get 8 slot in the East.

.500 after 16 games!!!