Why boxing desperately needs Manny Pacquiao
I will tell you why.
Oscar De La Hoya is done. Even if he is not ready to admit it.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is still retired. Joe Calzaghe has retired. Roy Jones Jr. should retire.
Bernard Hopkins is 44. Evander Holyfield is 46.
The heavyweight division is, well, a division no one cares much about.
And we can't really be sure if Kelly Pavlik and Miguel Cotto are actually back, given the opposition they faced in their comeback fights. And we can't really be sure if Antonio Margarito will ever fight from under the A-Rod-type cloud of suspicion that now hovers over him.
So, yeah, boxing desperately needs Manny Pacquiao. But to what degree can he deliver?
We asked several experts in the industry if they thought it were possible for Pac Man to replace the Golden Boy as boxing's true superstar. Here's what they had to say:
Doug Fischer, co-editor of RingTV.com: "I don't think Pacquiao can replace De La Hoya as boxing's star in the United States. He doesn't speak English well enough, he doesn't have the look of a soap opera actor, and he doesn't have the Mexican heritage, which helped Oscar's popularity. However, I believe he can at least equal De La Hoya's presence internationally. Obviously, Pacquiao's huge in the Philippines, but also throughout Asia, and he's known to hardcore fight fans around the world. If he adds Ricky Hatton's scalp to his list of victims, his stature will rise in the UK the same way it did in the U.S. after he beat De La Hoya, perhaps more so, because boxing is more of a major sport in Britain. His willingness to take on quality fighters, his all-action style, and his relationship with HBO coulp help him become the best known Asian pro athlete in the U.S. this side of Yao Ming - as long as he keeps winning. A showdown with Floyd Mayweather would boost his popularity tremendously.
Brian Doogan, Sunday Times of London: "Manny Pacquiao is an exciting, accomplished fighter with clear crossover appeal in his native Philippines. His victory over Oscar De La Hoya will have made him much better known internationally, too, but a win over Oscar does not automatically make that fighter the next Oscar. Felix Trinidad did not transcend the sport when he beat Oscar, nor did Shane Mosley. Bernard Hopkins has done so to a degree in America and Floyd Mayweather is a different personality. If Pacquiao beats Ricky Hatton and follows up with a win over Mayweather I think then he will have become a boxing star recognized more by the general public."
John Scully, former light heavyweight contender: "I would think it would be very hard. Oscar was such a media a star, loved by the women, very good looking, etc. etc. etc. Other than the fact that he can fight very well, what does Manny have to bring to the table that could make him a superstar? Sometimes I think people confuse what a superstar actually is. Manny could be a boxing star, an idol to his country, but a superstar in my opinion is a main stream star. Ali, Leonard, Oscar. It's a limited pool to draw from. To be a true superstar you'd have to be able to do commercials, hawk products, conduct great and revealing interviews, have a back story that average people can either relate to or want to get behind. I wouldn't think Manny could be included in that category no matter who he beats."
Steve Farhood, Showtime analyst: "Pacquiao is already a superstar, but to even BEGIN to venture into Oscar territory, he'll have to beat Floyd Mayweather. I believe that if Pacquiao convincingly defeats Hatton, Mayweather will reappear because a fight with Manny would mean "manny, manny" millions. I'd also like to see Pacquiao fight the winner of the title unification bout between Kendall Holt and Timothy Bradley, which will be on Showtime on April 4.
Nigel Collins, editor-in-chief, The Ring: "It would be both unrealistic and unfair to expect Pacquiao to be the ‘new De La Hoya.’ The pertinent question is how much of the void can Pacquiao fill. In many ways, we are fortunate to have Manny as the sport’s new standard-bearer. He is already a superstar within the insular world of boxing and now has an opportunity to soar higher than any of his contemporaries due to his unique qualifications. He is an extremely fan-friendly package of mayhem that practically guarantees a bit of the old ultra violence every time he fights. This is no small thing in an era populated by so many hesitant performers. Most of whom lack the passion to reached beyond themselves in search of glory. Pacquiao, on the other hand, happily pours everything he has into every fight.”
Ron Ross, boxing author: "Even being a superstar is relative. If you hang your hat on a rack in Manila the question of whether Manny Pacuiao can replace Oscar De La Hoya as boxing's superstar, the response can very possibly be, "Oscar who?" Superstardom was achieved for the Pacman on this Pacific island nation long before he pounded the Golden Boy en route to a one-sided TKO drubbing, but his being accorded such status in North America or much of Europe depends on a lot more than talent, ability and defeating all comers. Generally speaking, greatness is in the eyes of the beholders and the beholders view along ethic and nationalistic lines. These lines do become less rigid in time. Manny Pacquiao has all the equipment - a Henry Armstrong-like arsenal of non-stop punches, electrifying power, speed and boxing skills - to qualify him as a true superstar of the boxing world. He's already achieved that status in parts of the world. Just like the time zone difference, it may take a little longer but that bright spotlight is going to shine on Manny Pacquiao here too."
-- CASSIDY
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Well if pacman can't replace oscar as boxing star in the U.S. since he is not good looking and doesn't speak well in english, then Mr. Fischer and John "the unknown" Scully can perhaps recommend tom cruise or former U.S. president bill clinton to be boxing star in the U.S., Instead of supporting great boxers like pacman for the good of the sport, these people seemed can't hide their hostile attitude to the pacman. they are similar to people claiming that marquez won the first fight with pacquiao trying to erase the fact that an old DOM judge had deliberately cheated in his score cards that made the fight a draw.
By the way, is Mr. Doug Fischer and Mr. John Scully good-looking writers?
Not fair for the two of them to be compared. Oscar is oscar and Pacman is pacman. Pacman himself did not not even wish to be a superstar but in the ring he is a superstar. In the ring, it's not the face or tongue that shines, it's the sting of fist that shines. Let me remind you my friends Pacman is a boxer.
Not fair for the two of them to be compared. Oscar is oscar and Pacman is pacman. Pacman himself did not not even wish to be a superstar but in the ring he is a superstar. In the ring, it's not the face or tongue that shines, it's the sting of fist that shines. Let me remind you my friends Pacman is a boxer.
Not fair for the two of them to be compared. Oscar is oscar and Pacman is pacman. Pacman himself did not not even wish to be a superstar but in the ring he is a superstar. In the ring, it's not the face or tongue that shines, it's the sting of fist that shines. Let me remind you my friends Pacman is a boxer.
With the retirement of golden boy just within reach, the need to fill in the void of having true fighter to carry on the torch is very imminent, and pacman has the quality to carry on the torch as most true blue, die hard boxing fan would agree. Pacman has proven the cynics wrong over and over by fighting and winning quality fights and each visit to the ring grows his fan base. He is a superstar, no doubt. He has his commercials with nike and almost all product lines from telecoms, beer, car battery, petroleum, mircrophone, etc., he has a platinum album and has some movies. To compare ODLH with Pacman is unfair to both of them as they have their own different styles and personalities and fan base. The only similarities the two both have are the quality of fights and they are both hall of famers. So for now, lets just give many a chance to carry the torch for the love of boxing.
Well I think only idiots dont accept the fact that a boxer in the caliber of Pacman is no boxing superstar!
If an american boxer has done half what the Pacman did then obviously would have become the most recognized boxing superstar.
Any boxer who would beat Dela Hoya becomes an instant superstar look at Mayweather. And what happened to Forbes whom De la Hoya beat...even his name was on papers.
How much more if you destroyed Dela Hoya like what the Pacman did..? .. but to western scribes Pacman is still no boxing superstar! WAKE UP!
Maybe Pacman would need to pulverize every single boxer from flyweight to heavyweight to be recognized as an average good boxer.
Don't compare Oscar to Manny they are two different people. Manny is a great fighter and a legend in his own way. Besides he does not wish to replace Oscar but rather just to be a great ambassador of this game.
it doesnt matter.. pacquiao has given a loooot to boxing.. more than what dela hoya did!! oscar is a product.. manny is a real fighter in all sense that boxing needs.. we dont need an english speaking fighter coz boxing is all about action
Good comment made by Nigel Collins. He really knows what he is writing about. The question is pretty simple to answer, "can the Pacman replace Oscar?" The answer is NEGATIVE, because these two guys are not the same type of boxers. What is common to both are the kind of fights and the quality of opponents they fought. And the excited they brought every time they fought.It would be an insult and obviously a show of disrespect to Oscar if he'd replaced. as pointed out by Robert, Pacman had just become the bearer of the torch passed on to him by Oscar. Both are superstars in boxing due to theirs accomplishments in the ring. Aestethic beauty and linguistic prowess are not prerequisites to boxing superstardom. Don't deviate from the issue if you want to be understood perfectly clear.
Nice compilation of views.
I don't believe it only boils down to looks (although it can help). Mexicans also learned to like Pacman.
Pacman can only be a US superstar if he stays in the US more often to promote himself, even if he's not American. But that is not the case.
Duran became really famous in the US, but that was also the time where the best like Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler, Hearns were American, boxing was very popular too. So Duran's exposure was automatic.
So what's left is the international side, especially if he beats Hatton.
English is a rotten language as well as the experts who always fails.
Dog Fischer is good looking as Floyd Mayweather Sr. Very gayly comment by mr. dor Fisher
John Scully, former light heavyweight contender: "To be a true superstar you'd have to be able to do commercials, hawk products, conduct great and revealing interviews, have a back story that average people can either relate to or want to get behind. I wouldn't think Manny could be included in that category no matter who he beats."
Hehehee.. Typical American Guy. Visit the Philippines and you might think twice about your comment =)
You John Scully, you even don't know the 'appreciation.' You're selfish! Idiot! If you don't like manny pacquiao then, simply, don't watch his fights. You're cheap!!
even roberto duran had become a main stream star in the us?nope ..that's bull shit ..why people comparing pacquiao like ali or leonard oR oscar its simply pacquiao aint no american..Pacman doesnt need to be oscar just to be a main stream star to the U.S. thats BULL SHIT,..Pacman is just the best Figther or boxer in this Era tha's all.....Then u can name one non american to be mainstream star in the U.S.?If you want to be a MAIN STREAM STAR IN THE U.S. YOU HAVE TO BE AMERICAN..Oscar dela hoya was a Main stream star but WAS NOT A GREAT FIGHTER LIKE THE PACMAN..
The status of being a SUPERSTAR is a relative term. It depends on individual perception. When DR Manny annihilated ODLH, his status drastically changed from a mere star to that of a SUPERSTAR. Dr. Manny, despite the perception of others, is now actually a 5-Division world champion - not 4. If he defeats Hatton, he would be a 6-division world champion. If his win over then Ring Magazine SuperFeatherWeight champion Marco Antonio Barrera should not be counted, then all those so-called current "Ring MAGAZINE WORLD CHAMPIONS" should also not be accorded the honor as "WORLD CHAMPIONS". Examples: JMM as Ring Magazine Lightweight Champion. BHOP as Ring Magazine Light Heavyweight Champion. Why should the Pacman be descriminated against?
And to think that everybody now wants to fight Dr. Manny in a megafight, even BHOP. The PACMAN has become the modern Pied Piper of the boxing world. He opened the floodgates to big time boxing, not only to Filipinos, but also to all boxers from Asia. Only the jealous and envious - and racists, perhaps - still insist that Dr. Manny is still not a SUPERSTAR of the world of BOXING. I say or include the racists because these people still cannot accept the hard and painful reality that a small colored guy - a modern "David" from the orient has made a big name in the very heart of boxing world, the USA.These type of people pray very hard that somehow this david gets knockout and pushed to oblivion.
having manny pacman in the sports of boxing is truly a blessed experience. It helps a lot to watch the sport. Manny is a humble and very passionate fighter, comments of him whether bad or good will not lessen his credibility. He is here to instill the greatness of boxing.
We dont need any english good looking guy. Its clobbering time!
having manny pacman in the sports of boxing is truly a blessed experience. It helps a lot to watch the sport. Manny is a humble and very passionate fighter, comments of him whether bad or good will not lessen his credibility. He is here to instill the greatness of boxing.
john scullly's statement is pretty freakin racist.
what he doesn't know realize is that pacman didn't have
much schooling due to poverty as a child, and to pick up English
just like that from no where is impressive. just look at the other famous
international boxers out there. they don't give a damn about learning
how to speak in english. always having translators beside them.
You better just shut the ef up if you ain't got nothing else better to say.
talkin.
have a back soty that aver people can iether relate to or want to get behind?
don't you even know pacman's story?
there is defenitelly no comparing the two since OSCAR IS AMERICAN!
and Pacman will not get the respect he deserves in US. since he's not
american.
well i hope im wrong about the respect issue.
even though he is of a diffenrent race maybe perhaps he'll have more
of a mainstream name in the us in the future.
I am extremely surprised at the juvenile comments from a respected writer like Dough Fisher. It doesn't matter if Pacquiao and ODLH belong to two different "celluloid" world, looks and language have never been a yardstick in superstardom - in boxing or otherwise. Mexican, European, Panamanian, Brazilian boxers and sports heroes- some handsome, some not - have become heroes, even if they need interpreters or at best speaks halting English. In this day and age Mr. Fischer, people may have accents, but in their hearts, they with no accent at all. To make good looks and Americanized English as the measuring sticks for superstardom measure is an insult to President Obama, Mao Tse Tung, Arnold S., Duran. What's got into you Mr. Fisher? You are a fine writer. The Vietnamese defeated the Americans and at that time Ho Chi Minh looked like anything but handsome.
we are talking about boxing torch bearer Mr. Schully...it shows only by your words that you are an anti Pacman...heres what i can say to you and to those who dont believe in Pacman.." Yes Manny cannot be Oscar and so does Oscar cannot be Manny, in fact Manny loves by his countrymen...sad to say only few Mexicans loves Oscar"
It is irresponsible and suffocating for Mr. Fisher to make looks and English proficiency as eligibilities for boxing superstardom. I hope someday, somebody will be tactless enough too to comment about his (Mr. Fischer's looks) looks. No, I have not seen him. But, somebody is always better or uglier than you - Murphy's law.
This article is crazy. WHo the hell cares if PACMAN doesn't speak good English? Does a boxer have to talk to his opponent once inside the ring? DUHHHH
This article is crazy. WHo the hell cares if PACMAN doesn't speak good English? Does a boxer have to talk to his opponent once inside the ring? DUHHHH
Manny " Pacman" Pacquiao said :
I am an ordinary boxer, but i can beat a top caliber boxer like
1) Marco Antonio Barrera
2) Eric Morales
3) Juan Manuel Marquez (KO 4 times and nearly 5 times he he he)
4) Solis
5) Larios
6) David Diaz
7) Oscar De la Hoya
8) Ricky Hatton
9) Floyd where'sweather
10) Zorro
I am not a good looking guy but I can make Good looking guy
ugly inside the ring.
Manny " Pacman" Pacquiao said :
I am an ordinary boxer, but i can beat a top caliber boxer like
1) Marco Antonio Barrera
2) Eric Morales
3) Juan Manuel Marquez (KO 4 times and nearly 5 times he he he)
4) Solis
5) Larios
6) David Diaz
7) Oscar De la Hoya
8) Ricky Hatton
9) Floyd where'sweather
10) Zorro
I am not a good looking guy but I can make Good looking guy
ugly inside the ring.
The apple is an apple, and orange is an orange. Wouldn't the racists consider the result of the ESPN2 Champion of Champions as a gauge to Pacman's popularity? Why did NIKE get Pacquiao as a product endorser of their lines of boxing shoes, not Oscar dela Hoya? What's your definition of boxing superstar?
EXAMINERAUTHOR :
I agree with you,
Ihese people who are anti Pacman, are the same people
who hardly accept that thier President is Black,
the President elect. Barak Obama of USA.
Hey Mr Fisher.....
Manny can speak english and Pilipino laguage and you!
can you speak Pilipino?
Can you speak Cebuano? Do you have a Doctorate Degree?
can you sing? are you a hero in your country, Can you
talk to your President in front of him? is barak Obama know you?
Manny had it. in his country....
If we stick to the issue if whether or not pacman can replace oscar as a boxing hero, my honest answer if a BIG YES! dont divert the issue. if the question is can pacman become american like oscar? of course YES! Now, can oscar become a Filipino? ha ha ha, i dont think oscar ever think of becoming one! but fella these are just side issues! can a black, brown, white, red becomes a boxing superstar? YES! unless ur color, the way u speak, ur looks determine ur fate to becoming one.
Present-day ENGLISH-speaking Americans, please return now the two BALANGGIGA church bells stolen by ENGLISH-SPEAKING AMERICAN SOLDIERS in 1901 from Balanggiga, Samar, Philippines. The ENGLISH-SPEAKING AMERICAN SOLDIERS could not accept the reality that they were completely outfought by ill-armed, ill-equipped NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING BROWN (“INSURECTOS”) FILIPINO SOLDIERS. In retaliation, said ENGLISH SPEAKING AMERICAN SOLDIERS massacred innocent civilians and brought to English-speaking America the two church bells of the town. Despite repeated appeals from all sectors, and several succeeding administrations, and despite repeated or annual celebration of the coming back of Gen MacArthur to nearby Leyte, the STOLEN Balanggiga bells, to this day, have remained in the possession of its illegal possessor- the English-speaking AMERICA, the cradle of democracy. HOW about that, English-speaking boxing experts on BOXING SUPERSTARDOM????
Whenever Oscar speaks he always comes across as being fake or insincere. Yes he's goodlooking but he's also very phony. Sports journalists seem to talk about him as if he was *great* in the sense that Ali and Leonard were great. No he wasn't as great as those guys, he just makes a lot of money.
Mr. Doug Fischer, & Mr. John Scully:
Your entitled to your opinion but it is backfiring in your own ego because
your logic is like it is saying that Barack Obama can not be a President because
of his color and you two I know how you look like even though your name
doesn't sound like Barack Obama. Pacman being an unkink-haired dude unlike
you guys is even much more handsome than both of you. LOL.
.
Mr. Doug Fischer, & Mr. John Scully:
Your entitled to your opinion but it is backfiring in your own ego because
your logic is like it is saying that Barack Obama can not be a President because
of his color and you two I know how you look like even though your name
doesn't sound like Barack Obama. Pacman being an unkink-haired dude unlike
you guys is even much more handsome than both of you. LOL.
.
WHY DON'T YOU REVERSE......................IS OSCAR DELA HOYA CAN BE MANNY PACQUIAO???????
Mr. Doug Fischer, & Mr. John Scully, you are a shame to american sports journalism! to be boxing superstar is not based on eloquence and looks but on ring accomplishments.
these two bigots are disgrace to boxing to sports and to everything that is decent.racist p igs and worse hypocrites. you do great disservice and dishonor to your race maybe i should write to your president and strip oyou of your citizenship. that is a comfort to good americans.get rid of rotten apples.
mr. doug fischer, and mr. jhon scully, dont talk about eloquence and personality, manny is money to many...the world knows who he is in boxing, not only a superstar, maybe supernatural hehehe........
Manny doesn't need good looks and perfect english,
'cause at the end of the fight, he can make his opponent the ugliest
person of the entire arena due to disfigured face can hardly speak
any language due to pain....so who needs english and looks inside
the ring when u face Dr. Manny.
the proposition was.. why boxing desperately needs manny pacquiao. why the hell did good looks, ability to speak english etc.etc. got to be the requirements in becoming a boxing superstar? he is the most sought after fighter of today. all the accolades manny is getting were product of his achievements in the ring. he did not ask for it. you can forget about the ballyhoos. just give him good fights. he does'nt have to be superstar to beat his opponents.
To:Doug Fischer, co-editor of RingTV.com and John Scully, former light heavyweight contender
Why does Nike get Manny Pacquaio as their endorser why not ODLH?
Yes he is not a good looking guy but he can make a good looking guy UGLY inside the ring....
My advice for the both of you: Don't ever watch the fight of Manny Pacquiao this coming May 2 for the reason that he is not superstar in the world of boxing.....
You two better shut up.....
To:Doug Fischer, co-editor of RingTV.com and John Scully, former light heavyweight contender
Why does Nike get Manny Pacquaio as their endorser why not ODLH?
Yes he is not a good looking guy but he can make a good looking guy UGLY inside the ring....
My advice for the both of you: Don't ever watch the fight of Manny Pacquiao this coming May 2 for the reason that he is not superstar in the world of boxing.....
You two better shut up.....
first, this is inaptly put in "Neutral Corner" clearly because it is very subjective, yes i agree with some comments that the way to boxing stardom does not need good looks and english loquaciousness, but don't you think that this author is very effective in getting your attention? just make anti-pacman write-ups and you will surely attain century mark comments....
Well, Pacman and Oscar are two different personalities.
We just can't compare two different people. If our gauge is their
popularity, we also have define the geographical location we're
comparing them. If we want to compare them in USA, there's no
way Pacman can beat Oscar in terms of popularity. USA loves
talkers and not doers, even for boxers, they look at them on how
they talk or look, not on how they fight or have fought. Pacman
will always be beloved in Asia where doers are loved more than
talkers.
all people are fanatics in a lot of sports that are known today,it can get ugly if you hurled insults to their favorite sports heroes.....
to them they don't care about super stardom win or lose they still love that person or team because of how they plays the game.....they given the fans,fun,excitement,thrilled of entertainment...
to you mr. scully and mr fischer the two of are becoming a star!! see the two of you are getting recognized a lot of people wants to meet you....hehehehe
Hmmmmmmm..... hey you two!!you guys really know what ur syin ? ur sayin' that pac nids a gud looking face and must have execelent communication skills to be superstar? why dont you grab ur gloves and go toe to toe w/ pac or even just his sparring partner..so that u'll be in news the other day that have broken ribs and face that cannot be drawn by fine artist since being battered by small, not good looking guy !! hahahaha!
to scully: pacman is endorsing nike
Dela Hoya became a superstar not because of his ability but good looks. And dela Hoya also knows how to act infront of the camera. In my opinion, dela Hoya is a sham. Pacquiao is not goodlooking, is camera shy, humble and a real superstar, more real than dela Hoya, which he truly deserves.
This case boils down into this: What Pacquiao lacks in looks he makes up in his character; anda what Delahoya lacks in character, he makes up in looks. Quite simple.
Yes,yes,yes, you got my attention and Manny's forte is boxing - this doctor can 'reconfigure' a good looking opponent to look ugly & pathetic just as Doug & Scully waited and beg for no endorsement offer from Nike. yahoooo!
GUYS, DO NOT BLAME THE SO-CALLED EXPERTS IN THE INDUSTRY FOR THEIR OPINIONS ON PACMAN THAT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. I KNEW ROBERT CASSIDY, I HAVE READ AND ENGAGED ON HIM IN DEBATE ON SOME OF HIS ARTICLE ON PACMAN, HE WILL MAKE AN ARTICLE THAT WILL MAKE HIS SUBJECT INFERIOR. IN THIS ARTICLE-CASE HE WILL ASK IF PACMAN IS REALLY A SUPERSTAR AND THEN ASK THE HATERS, WHAT ANSWER WILL YOU EXPECT THEN????????????????????
PACMAN DIDN'T DREAMED OF BECOMING A SUPERSTAR.
YOU KNOW WHAT HE WANTED???
TO HELP HIS LESS FORTUNATE COUNTRYMEN.
HIS INTENTIONS ARE PURE THAT HE EVEN WANTED TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE NOT KNOWING THAT HE WILL BE USE BY CORRUPT POLITICIANS.
HAVE YOU HEARD HIS 30TH BIRTHDAY PARTY WHERE HE FEED SO MANY LESS FORTUNATE PEOPLE???!!!
THAT MAKES A PERSON MORE THAN A SUPERSTAR!!!!!
He became the biggest boxing superstar after beating Dela Hoya.
He will now start commanding the biggest purses. He will start
getting the highest PPV buys. We'll find out after May 2. But I have
a feeling he will beat all previous PPV buys ever. He's a phenomenon.
There will never be another Pacman, enjoy it while he's still around.
This is about boxing !!!
You don't have to be good looking
Don't tell me Mohammed Ali is good looking
You don't have to be Fluent in English
manny of Great Mexican Fighters they don't even speak English
For me Manny is a Superstar, Hall of fame, Pound 4 Pound, a Champion
Manny can't be Dela Hoya
but better than Dela we to have accept the facts that theres only
2 fighters who won 3 times in 3 differents division in a year and one of those 2 is Manny Pacquiao.
Oscar Dela Hoya, He never won a single round in their fight of Manny Pacquiao
and everybody knows that He surrender in round 9 bec. they know Roach promise that Manny will knockout Oscar in round 9
And stop making excuses that Oscar is old, Joe Calzaghe is 37 years old and He never lose a single fights, Hopkins is 43 years old and he beat Pavlik, who was undefeated and a world champion.
Mabuhay ka Manny Pacquiao!!!
"I think Manny Pacquiao is different compared to oscar dela hoya,
Manny pacquaio get his position right now by facing very best
ooponent that the sport of boxing has to offer and he do it
very convincingly with passion, you know climbing from
an unknown figther up to a "No. 1 lb 4 lb in boxing unlike
oscar who is started already as a Gold Medalist,
and about Doug Fischer's comment, that a very
gayish comment, i think he is a gay....peace...
Pacquiao & dela Hoya are two distinct persons. Dela Hoya is a superstar in the US but Pacquiao is a megastar in the Philippines. Pacquiao is a star in the US but dela Hoya is a so-so in the Philippines.
Pacquiao & dela Hoya are two distinct persons. Dela Hoya is a superstar in the US but Pacquiao is a megastar in the Philippines. Pacquiao is a star in the US but dela Hoya is a so-so in the Philippines.
A SUPERSTAR means great, well known, idolized, legendary and all the good stuffs. But it also differs depending on it's category... example? basketball-michael jordan, golf-tiger woods, swimming-michael phelps etc... Now Oscar Dela Hoya is a Superstar in BOXING as well as a CELEBRITY... which is lucky for him... but we are only talking of BOXING here... So manny pacquiao really deserves a slot in so called 'boxing superstars'... Also, what are you gonna do with a handsome face, where-in it's gonna be battered anyways? Very simple right? a handsome battered face or a not so good look but an unscratched face? hehe! I also share the same sentiments that each and every boxer can only be one... Only the owners of the thrones and belts can be replaced
does tyson have the dela hoya face? dela hoya is a superstar because of his good looks, pacquiao is a superstar because of his boxing skill. pacman demolished the golden boy. his next victims will be hatton & mayweather. he is destined for greatness.
The way this article is finish and done is through racial degradation.
Not brave enough to put the straight forward title "Why boxing doesn't need Manny Pacuiao at all" as the substance read.
In history,"Helen of Troy" posesses a beauty that causes wars.
With due respect to ODLH,he's famous here in the Philippines
among the boxing afficionados because of his winning fights and not because of his good-look.The different boxing champions in boxing Hall of Fame was not inducted by their looks,but their boxing achievements,why the sudden now?
The writer put ODLH in a bad light by simply praising his looks and the "x "factor for being the torch bearer of boxing.This looks issue was used by Mohammed Ali as to psyhe-down his opponent only.But look what happened ,Thrilla in Manilla"great fight.
How bitter it is to accept that Manny is the torch bearer now and not good enough to wait until things change again.The more Manny will be motivated to give it all his best in fighting Hatton because he knows there are
those people still not convince of his P4P rating .Anyway publicity wether good or bad is still a publicity .Manny will win this fight because it is his destiny ,one great champion.....
its OBAMA time now discrimination has no place in this world now so lets just accept that anyone who deserves to be number one even he/she comes from third world country lets give him/her the due she/he deserves.
I am a Pacman fan,
but I don't understand why other fans are so inflamed when they read (even a bit) negative statements about their boxer.
Did they read a different article because I totally agree on each of the expert's view.
FISHER, DO U WANT SOME FISH AND CHECK THE SCALP OF JOHN???? ARE U REALLY BOXING WRITERS OR ENGLISH TUTOR???? U MISSED 1 MORE THING?? PACQUIAO SHOULD NOT BE A SUPERSTAR SINCE E IS NOT HANDSOME, RIGHT? LEARN BOXING AND CHALLENGE PACMAN
Drop the language and good looks crap! Fedor Emelianenko is a russian and doesnt speak english but the crowd adores his exquisite fighting skills and they dnt mind him speaking that good. Their comments are senseless and cant accept the fact that they are now the underdog to Asian fighters.
oscar is a boyband and showbiz minded while pacman is real boxer... hehehe
we're talking about boxing here...not being an actor ok.fischer and scully both of you guys has nothing senseble to say you shoud just shut up!!!!!
pac is the only true boxer today.he embodies charisma and the unfailing support of his beloved countrymen.come hell and high water pacman will always be the hero of his people and those haters are there to make everything more exciting.to adopt the line from magic , i should say, " there goes pacman and there's the rest of us." also larry the great legend would say,"he's a god in the form of pacman.".............yeweh.
now wha say ya!!! filthy old fuckin idiot freak of nature.ur no boxing prophet, you've never worn a glove yet in your entire life so be real. your pride will consume you and your vias will spill the more shame on you.afraid to wake up someday that a so called american-dominated sport become the kingdom of a third world pugilist?better not sleep then bc nightmare has its ways on premature people.spooky!!!
dont u durst say that we dont speak good english.to pac it mite be true but he never needed to speak better english to say what he says best, "this fight is for my people."i am a call center agent and i receive almost a hundred calls each nite and it is disheartening to note that a lot of americans dont know how to use correct grammar.it is therefore wise to note that english is not our native tongue but we respect the language a lot by using it in the correct way.what about you?
Is Mike Tyson a good looking?
Is Mike Tyson a good looking?
Most Americans Are Actors. They'll Ask You "HOW ARE YOU?" But They Don't Really Care How You Are.
i just think this 2 bet on ODLH when oscar met pac, maybe this 2 thought that GB n Pac is competing in a beau ty pageant! thats hilarious. how much did u 2 loose u smartypants?
i just dont know why a boxer must be a GOOD LOOKING just to be recognize a superstar. In the ring what we know is to defeat you opponent by your skill. it seems the Two commentators are judge for a BEAUTY CONTEST or Simply PLAIN HOMOSEXUAL>
the comments makes these boxing critics loosing their job
those commentators up there are so funny why? they talked against their will... ha ha ha ha believe me months from now those writers kuno! will be ashamed for their stupid comments.... when was the boxing became a place of good looking faces???? Did you see the face of hopkins? and other famous boxers???..... Common you fools accept the true facts in boxing world.. BOXING NEEDS MANNY SO BADLY...........
HEY GUYS! ODH IS GOOD LOOKING LIKE THOSE OTHER WANNABE'S OPONENTS AND MANNY WAS NOT..
BUT AFTER THE FIGHT ODH BECOMES SO UGLY AS WELL OF THOSE WANNABEES AND MANNY FACE WAS STIIL IN GOOD SHAPE
IF THE FIGHT CONTINOUS TO 9TH ROUND ODH WILL BORROW A FACE OF DOG... LIKE DOG FISHER AND JOHN SKULLY
NYA HA HA HA HA HA.....
(John Scully, former light heavyweight contender: "I would think it would be very hard. Oscar was such a media a star, loved by the women and gays like me, very good looking, etc. etc. etc.)
you're busted johnny...
pong77 this is not about pacman being criticized for having poor or lousy performance.this is about neglecting pac his rightful position in history.understand!!!
gago c pong 77.gago*ka*talaga*
John Scully, former light heavyweight contender.is he in the hall of fame? how many big fights had he fought in his lifetime? is there any?John Scully, former light heavyweight contender,shut up.vogue i heard had opening for lingerie consultant.grab it dont be shy
John Scullyyyyy gilubot na cya ni oscar sauna mga bayut..
It's true that nobody can replace Oscar as the superstar but it is also true that Manny Pacquiao is a great boxer than Oscar.
He proved that he beats all the great fighter on their prime. He lost a few fights when he still a raw talent than he is today. Oscar lost a number of fights that he he should have won to be called a great fighter.
Time will also tell that he will defeat Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, etc if given the opportunity........................
Mr. Doug Fischer and Mr. John Scully.... The SUPER...commentators! I mean SUPER GAY commentators...hehehe
amaw
sometimes, some experts in their field tend to lose their objectivity.
pathetic. kudos to Nigel and Ron...
hope the other "experts" may convince mayweather to fight again.
no fighter could beat a retired fighter, lets be realisitc.
its unfair to say manny can't be a main stream star no matter
who he beats. Cassidy pointed out the obvious on who could
probably replace ODLH as the next boxing superstar, i wonder
what the "other experts" have in mind.
I don't care what they say about our PACMAN. For us, whether he is good looking or not what is important is he has the HEART and he has the support of the entire Filipino nation.
Don't expect nice comments from white racist people. They are the ugliest in our eyes especially if they insult our hero.
Fight Pacman! Defeat all those white monkeys around.
Arrogants maybe this the reasons why anti-americans had increased throughout the world.
THE REALISTIC AND CORRECT QUESTION IS;
CAN ODLH surpass PACMAN in boxing greatness?
the most logical answers is NOT! and he will NEVER BE!
he is an HBO fraud.! he has good looks but as a fighter, he is a bum!
John Scully, former light heavyweight contender.... hahahah never even a 1 time champ....i wanna ask you john scully. how does it feel to accomplish contender status throughout your boxing career? i have a WBC light heavyweight replica belt at home. let me send to you so you can feel how to be a champ. give me your address
Yes ODLH have the face of an actor and also a face of a quitter . Manny "PACMAN" Pacquiao is a true face of a boxer and a fighter.
And I think Manny "PACMAN" Pacquiao is not interested to replace ODLH as a quitter.
hey guys this is not a beauty pageant, its BOXING! after the fight of Manny pacquiao & oscar dela hoya... who has the ugliest face? is'nt it OScar dela hoya??? YES!!
Hey guys... Don't get mad to the commentators, they were just saying how oscars became popular. Ofcourse Manny cannot be ODLH, because Manny is a great boxer and not an actor. Atleast we all know, that Manny is also very popular all over the world, maybe not as much popular in the US as ODLH, but I know for sure that he is very popular to all the filipino and mexican boxing fans, they may not watch his fight but we all know that they know him and respect him for his accomplishments. These two are just saying that Manny is a real BOXER because he is not good looking and can't speak good english. For some point they are right, who wants to become ODLH anyway? He is a disgrace to the mexican boxers, quitting is not in the eyes of a true mexican boxer, I am proud of David Diaz because even if he knows that he will not win the fight he still stood and tried even to the extent of getting knocked out be the Fascinating filipino boxer(Pacquiao). So it's really no sense putting a react comment here because Manny Pacquiao is coming on May 2 to school Ricky Hatton. Go Pacman just do what you do best and prove these haters wrong!
mr scully n mr fischer sir have you been doin some thinking before you comment on the the question
(WHY BOXING DESPERATELY NEEDS MANNY....)
A QUESTION
(base on your statement) Mr. Doug Fischer, co-editor of RingTV.com: "I don't think Pacquiao can replace De La Hoya as boxing's star in the United States. He doesn't speak English well enough, he doesn't have the look of a soap opera actor, and he doesn't have the Mexican heritage, which helped Oscar's popularity. However, I believe he can at least equal De La Hoya's
(BASE ON MR.John Scully, former light heavyweight contender:) "I would think it would be very hard. Oscar was such a media a star, loved by the women, very good looking, etc. etc. etc. Other than the fact that he can fight very well, what does Manny have to bring to the table that could make him a superstar? ,To be a true superstar you'd have to be able to do commercials, hawk products, conduct great and revealing interviews, have a back story that average people can either relate to or want to get behind. I wouldn't think Manny could be included in that category no matter who he beats.
have you been reading? or you two just read your own article?
if your are manny pacquiao with a multi million dollars in pocket!
would any girls hesitate to grab hes pants hehehehe
media well you two know about that because you yourself are dying to have a one on one interview with PAC.(Hippocrates)
besides Manny has a million girl fan base here in the Philippines
with hit single,a tv sitcom,movies....hehehehe
let Manny STAY IN THE (US of A)FOR A YEAR SURE HE WOULD SPEAK WELL IN THE SO CALLED ENGLISH LANGUAGE,
mr Scully if your basis of a super stardom is to indorsing hawk!(forgive my innocence i don't have the Slightest idea of a what is hawk?)refresh me my brothers...heheheh
A back story to relate! how about leaving in poverty,not to finish school,trying to work harder at a young age to help he's family to provide food. he sustained every days hard ship with out remorse or anger....is pacman a SAINT...
A MEXICAN HERRITAGE?......DOES THIS THING IRRELEVANT TO THE QUESTION?.....DOES OSCAR HAVE A BLOOD LINE OF THE ROYAL FAMILY OF THE WHALES
NO!BUT THE ENTIRE WORLD LOVES THEM WHEN THEY ARE IN THE RING....
One significant thing they both have in common.........
Both Countries,Philippines and Mexico has been Colonized by SPAIN....we are a Spanish speaking Nation Before We become the only English Speaking nation in Asia.....after UNcle sam interfere......
my closing arguments if there is one.....DID BOTH OF MR SCULLY and MR FISCHER ANSWER THE QUESTION ?
ROBERT CASSIDY SAYS.....
So, yeah, boxing desperately needs Manny Pacquiao. But to what degree can he deliver?
did you know that ODLH is one of the owner of the RING MAGAZINE......
Go Ippo Makunouchi!!! hehe! just kiddin... The Dream Match is Over!!! and we all know it became a Nightmare watch... So yeah, the article is somewhat umm, a little bit unrelated now? hehe! Moving on... C'mon!!! It's time to sing Fergie's London London London is going down like London London London! What? simplier? ok, london bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down, Hatton's bridge (nose) is falling down pacman the winner!!! hehehe! no offense to brits but just helpin manny there in london from teases...
pacman already is a star and that star is growing with each passing fight lets remember that america is just a small blip compared to the world over all at pacman is know nall over the world and more and more in america each passing month the hatton fight is a huhe fight for both and between the 24/7 hyping the fight on hbo and then the 1.3 million or so buys pacman will finally be the 1 and only king of boxing with a win over hitman hatton
you people are insane! lol. do you even comprehend boxing and marekting? do you no what a superstar is? manny cannot be considered a super star in this country yet. to be a superstar means you are a mainstream star. manny p. is nowhere no way no how near that. iceman scully is 1000 pct right. and he wasnt dissing manny either. you guys are stupid
person above is an idiot
the question is why boxing needs manny pacquiao. not how do you be a superstar in the US idiot...
good looks doesnt come in as a weapon in bboxing
scully is ----1000% wrong he is insane in saying that manny doesn't have a back-story that we can relate on...please save everyone from dieing from frustation and at least read manny's life story
Manny is the next best version of himself. He can only become more popular than himself which means that he can never be a dela hoya. But if a pacquiao can be better than a dela hoya beyond the ring then it's just another blessing. and contrary to what scully said that manny doesn't have a remarkable backstory, manny does have -- he is not a dela hoya, he's all pacquiao and nothing of the shadows of the other boxers he already beat.
Manny just won over hatton, what now? where are all those mean-spirited foreigners who are opposing everyone who reckons that manny has the potential to be a superstar?
Oscar de la hoya = promoter
Hatton = promoter to-be
Mayweather Jr. = retired but noisy
Mayweather Sr. = WWF-ish, trainer at-large only, with a large ego
Pacquiao = boxing athlete and superstar who remains to be the only one fighting inside the ring unlike all those afore-cited celebrities.
Bravo, excellent idea and is duly
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